Final Fantasy XIII PS3 compromised...

[Phil]

Me too. But I hat this whole ordeal. I hope this turns out to be a hype fueled joke. Square knows the will be cutting their on throats.

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[cyric1983]

Originally Posted by Exodus

Hmm? First I hear of this...

I'll be more specific. The original story of the one that made it into the game, would've spanned 7-discs. They had to trim some stuff out of it because they didn't think anybody would play a game that was 7-discs long. If I ever find the link again, I'll post it.

[Squall-Leonhart]

It was supposed to touch deeper on Laguna's past.

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Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Even if that's at a higher resolution (higher than 1920 x 1080 mind you), I don't think it'll be as impressive. Whoever thinks S-E is not taking compromises that far is seriously in for a reality check. It was because of the drastic difference in visuals of the demos that I was certain it wouldn't be weird for S-E to compromise other stuffs.

The thing with a higher resolution is that it shows more details. However if everything else remains the same in the PC version, all you'll see are flaws being more exposed, such as the low resolution textures. The only reason why higher res is nice is for it to be displayed on TFT screens in native resolution and to have those few sharp textures be readable. The only time when it really is advantageous is with many small particles, which simply aren't shown well in lower resolutions.

The tinting is quite disgusting by the way.

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[Phil]

I hope to good that the PS3 version does not turn out like that. It looks hideous

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[cloudstrife3733]

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Specifically:

- The game will not feature Japanese voices with English subtitles because that would be "unfair" since the 360 version will not have that.

- Due to space constraints of DVD, they can't let the player explore all areas and side quests at all time on the 360. It was planned for PS3, but since they want to make the experience fair, you can guess how it's going to be.

Source

Okay...?

Yeah, I know, it wasn't annoying that you can't do a certain side quest on disc 4. Not at all...

saw that coming, what you think skore? its funny this all comes out and everyone acts like they knew it all along I said this a couple weeks ago and got flammed like crazy about it dont feel bad about telling you guys I told you so.But furthermore that blows but I expected it.

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[Dadaluma83]

I am hoping FF13 is the best of the series. The series has been moving downhill in my opinion. 1-3 are classic old school, 4-7 were the golden age of the series, 8 and 9 were still good games but started the downhill trend. 10 was very good, but 12 although it had it charms was disappointing.



I don't see why a company would scrap so much work in the interest of fairness. Make FF13 on the PS3 their flagship. Make it epic. If the 360 can't handle a direct port then scrap whatever is needed to make it work on the 360.

As the owner of both consoles I am getting whichever version is better. Hopefully a collectors edition will come out with lots of goodies.

[cloudstrife3733]

Originally Posted by Dadaluma83

I am hoping FF13 is the best of the series. The series has been moving downhill in my opinion. 1-3 are classic old school, 4-7 were the golden age of the series, 8 and 9 were still good games but started the downhill trend. 10 was very good, but 12 although it had it charms was disappointing.



I don't see why a company would scrap so much work in the interest of fairness. Make FF13 on the PS3 their flagship. Make it epic. If the 360 can't handle a direct port then scrap whatever is needed to make it work on the 360.

As the owner of both consoles I am getting whichever version is better. Hopefully a collectors edition will come out with lots of goodies.

yeah that would be great but it wont happen this is were square enix will start making mistakes with the new gen FF games and as much as I want them to suffer $$ wise so something will wake them the hell up it wont happen ppl will still buy cause of the FF name.And one more thing wtf is this fair crap about?? they want to be fair to xbox users for what reason?? have they made tons of money off xbox users in the past?? I think not they made it off the majority of us sony users we stay true to them and this is how they repay us butchering the first new gen FF game for the latest consoles what I get a kick out of all these xbox users that have a problem with FF being released on just one console I didnt hear them complain too much in the past when 7,8,9,10,10-2 and 12 came out for just one console or else they probable would of made it multi-platform then.

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[Dynamo]

^ Then they still say they wish the combat was like GoW. But anyways... I still have hope they won't butcher it as bad as some speculate.

[cloudstrife3733]

Originally Posted by Dynamo

^ Then they still say they wish the combat was like GoW. But anyways... I still have hope they won't butcher it as bad as some speculate.

I probable would have hope if I hadnt heard so much to the contrary

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[Exodus]

Originally Posted by cyric1983

I'll be more specific. The original story of the one that made it into the game, would've spanned 7-discs. They had to trim some stuff out of it because they didn't think anybody would play a game that was 7-discs long. If I ever find the link again, I'll post it.

Ah, I see. It'd be like a director's cut version.

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It kind of begs a PS3 Blu Ray release doesn't it?

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I dunno about that. If SE would stop using FMVs, 1 dual layer DVD *might* be enough.

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[bkwegoharder]

This was shown to be false, the people making the game actually said the exact opposite, and that the ps3 version was already done so they are just trying there best to squeeze everything in the xbox 360 version. They said that the subtitles thing was only done to make the release for the us and europe sooner because there has to be a lot of testing and all types of other stuff with the japanese voices and english

Also, the Xbox 360 will come on like 3 or 4 discs so the space adds up to the ps3.

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[runawayprisoner]

Ignorance is bliss...

Final Fantasy XIII Video Game, GC 09: Interview Part II | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com

Yoshinori Kitase himself admitted at GC 09 (August 09) that the PS3 is more than capable of having Japanese audio as well as a whole horde of higher quality FMV shown in the earlier trailers, but due to disc space limitations, those can't make it to 360 without expanding to more discs, and they want it to be fair on both consoles. But still, it's not like the PS3 version is "compromised" since they are still "completing" it. Yeah...

By the way, they said that the PS3 version won't be compromised in June 09.

Are we clear at least on the time frame and the specific way they are... wording their statements?

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[wlee15]

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Nah, they won't have all those options. Remember, it's S-E we're talking about here. The Last Remnant on PC, which supposedly used UE3, was not at all impressive visual-wise and there was not much you could do about the game's visuals. If you ever get FFXIII on PC, I suspect it'll be for the novelty of having it on PC and that you don't have to get a console to play the game.

That aside, they already downgraded the visuals down. Specifically, the Japanese demo of FFXIII that came with the Japanese version of FFVII ACC looked drastically different from the demo included in the international version of FFVII ACC. I mean... they compromised them that far. I thought we all had a thread discussing that?

View the comparison shots here if you wish

Even if that's at a higher resolution (higher than 1920 x 1080 mind you), I don't think it'll be as impressive. Whoever thinks S-E is not taking compromises that far is seriously in for a reality check. It was because of the drastic difference in visuals of the demos that I was certain it wouldn't be weird for S-E to compromise other stuffs.

I'm not sure what version of the Final Fantasy VII ACC blu-ray you refer to as international but the North American version doesn't have a demo it only has a trailer. The most recent demo was at the Tokyo Game Show a couple days ago.
Here's a good article from Digital Foundry giving a framerate analysis of the ACC Final Fantasy XIII demo.

Digital Foundry games, reviews, news, previews and videos - Eurogamer

[runawayprisoner]

Digital Foundry actually explained the fugly green tint and the lower-poly character models we see in what little gameplay we get to experience. Even if S-E doesn't say it out loud, it shouldn't take a genius to realize that they are already dumbing the game down to match the 360 version, at least technically, and by the time they're done with it, it'll surely be the same game on both the PS3 and 360, but you'll have to sacrifice on lighting as well as polygon count. :/

Before anyone says the PS3 can't handle more polygons, you may want to take a look at Gran Turismo 5.

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[Phil]

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Digital Foundry actually explained the fugly green tint and the lower-poly character models we see in what little gameplay we get to experience. Even if S-E doesn't say it out loud, it shouldn't take a genius to realize that they are already dumbing the game down to match the 360 version, at least technically, and by the time they're done with it, it'll surely be the same game on both the PS3 and 360, but you'll have to sacrifice on lighting as well as polygon count. :/

Before anyone says the PS3 can't handle more polygons, you may want to take a look at Gran Turismo 5.

Well see when it comes out.

If anything, Square is not death to its fans wishes.

I have a feeling this entire ordeal is some bluff to create a man made hype machine.....lower your expectations then let the finished product friggin blow you away. No company spends millions to make a game then dumbs it down.

MS couldn't give SE THAT much money, sheesh. I say it again, this is all some hype machine. Why spend 35 million (more with marketing) then cut yourself in the foot buy going with the 360?

I have a feeling that MS didnt approach SE at all, SE went to THEM...to scrape up a few extra bucks in this down-trodden economy.

We wont know ANYTHING until the actual game comes out, demos be ******.

Square is simply waiting to sucker punch naysayers

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[wlee15]

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

Digital Foundry actually explained the fugly green tint and the lower-poly character models we see in what little gameplay we get to experience. Even if S-E doesn't say it out loud, it shouldn't take a genius to realize that they are already dumbing the game down to match the 360 version, at least technically, and by the time they're done with it, it'll surely be the same game on both the PS3 and 360, but you'll have to sacrifice on lighting as well as polygon count. :/

Before anyone says the PS3 can't handle more polygons, you may want to take a look at Gran Turismo 5.

Source please or it's not true.

[cloudstrife3733]

Originally Posted by Phil

Well see when it comes out.

If anything, Square is not death to its fans wishes.

I have a feeling this entire ordeal is some bluff to create a man made hype machine.....lower your expectations then let the finished product friggin blow you away. No company spends millions to make a game then dumbs it down.

MS couldn't give SE THAT much money, sheesh. I say it again, this is all some hype machine. Why spend 35 million (more with marketing) then cut yourself in the foot buy going with the 360?

I have a feeling that MS didnt approach SE at all, SE went to THEM...to scrape up a few extra bucks in this down-trodden economy.

We wont know ANYTHING until the actual game comes out, demos be ******.

Square is simply waiting to sucker punch naysayers

I hope they do! lol I would love to get sucker punched on this one Ill even hold my chin out like a boxer saying "bring it on" lol but I doubt it will happen I dunno like I said hopefully the majority of us are wrong.

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