playstation 1 bios,

Bubbafat · February 19th, 2009

anyone ever wonder why the ps1 bios were so crapply done? i mean they looked terrible. And i even looked at the sega saturn and the bios were done better even on that. It just sparked my intrest while looking at my ff7 saves...

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**Hard core Rikki** · February 19th, 2009

A BIOS is just an abstracted communication layer between the hardware and the software. Its not really supposed to do much more than that.

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Bubbafat · February 19th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Hard core Rikki

A BIOS is just an abstracted communication layer between the hardware and the software. Its not really supposed to do much more than that.

i dont know, it could look a little better than it did though, i mean i could remake it in microsofts paint program. But you look at the ps2 bios, it looks much better. Yes it is a gen. above but, going backwards still looked better.

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**Hard core Rikki** · February 19th, 2009

The original linux kernel was absurdly small too ("primitive", one might be tended to say), but fulfilled a similar role: provide a way to allow programs to communicate with the hardware. Else, its only a pile of metal you would have, along with code/games that would have to be coded with direct access to the hardware. These abstraction layers matter, but since a few years, bloat seems to be looming to become the next norm, especially with legacy code.

People just got used to it becoming more and more leaning towards parallel functions to its main purpose (such as to integrate dvd decoding and full applications into it).

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runawayprisoner · February 19th, 2009

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Originally Posted by Bubbafat

anyone ever wonder why the ps1 bios were so crapply done? i mean they looked terrible. And i even looked at the sega saturn and the bios were done better even on that. It just sparked my intrest while looking at my ff7 saves...

IIRC, PS-X was in development for longer than Sega Saturn for whatever reason... and I guess they just can't be arsed to "tout" that memory card manager screen to make it look any prettier, since the plan was to originally use them only to store high scores and the likes.

(who would have to go into the manger just to copy over some bytes of scores?) Then people started "storing" more than just high scores, and... well, you can guess the rest.

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Bubbafat · February 19th, 2009

man i want one of those PSX systems

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**jonc2006** · February 20th, 2009

i doubt they really saw priority in prettying up something that most users dont really pay much attention to.

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Exodus · February 20th, 2009

Memory card management and CD listening-to...

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Bubbafat · February 20th, 2009

its just those little things which make good things great.

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Exodus · February 20th, 2009

Maybe the bios design was an afterthought.

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**jonc2006** · February 20th, 2009

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Memory card management and CD listening-to...

i ment the visual design of it, not the actual function.

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Exodus · February 20th, 2009

But they should have, considering how important those two features are.

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runawayprisoner · February 20th, 2009

They are not really that important in my opinons. Not so many people would buy a $400 console back then just so they can listen to their music CDs now?

And not like games would take up a lot of memory card space back then. It was only towards 2000 that games started using up a whole lot of memory card space. One memory card was all it took at the very beginning.

Plus I think they would find that attractive or artistic back then...

Tastes differ. Now we are all for simplistic designs. Back then, it was all for dark, metalic, or colorful and hippy designs. If you'd consider it... Windows 98 doesn't look much better than the PS-X interface, either.

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Exodus · February 21st, 2009

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They are not really that important in my opinons. Not so many people would buy a $400 console back then just so they can listen to their music CDs now?

And not like games would take up a lot of memory card space back then. It was only towards 2000 that games started using up a whole lot of memory card space. One memory card was all it took at the very beginning.

Still - it's a feature, and it works well for people who had an awesome sound system hooked up to their TV, but their stereo was in another room.

As for memory cards... when every save takes at least 1 memory card block (out of 16, was it?) How could you not run out of room quickly...

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Paratech · February 21st, 2009

Back in 1994 I paid $100 for a Sega CD player and part of the reason was to play music CDs on it! so yeah, I can imagine people using the CD of their Playstation, and IIRC even in 1996, Playstation consoles were ~$225 with a Battle Arena Toshiden added...

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Exodus · February 21st, 2009

My cousin bought the overpriced Sega CDX, and ended up using it as a portable CD player for a while.

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strike105x · February 21st, 2009

I onestly never payed any attention to that detail

and i dont think il ever care

the games are whats important to me

if i want interface il just tweak my windows but for consoles i'm preaty much pleased with everything as long as it simple and easy to browse throught

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