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Old October 23rd, 2008   #1 (permalink)
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Sony: 'No plans' to address PSP-3000 screen interlacing - News at GameSpot
isnt this kind of pathetic?
i mean lets face it, the only thing sony has going for themselves is the most up to date hardware. the psp may not have a big gaming library, but the system is top notch and offers technical brilliance, right?
how is it possible then that they do a screwup like this?
and lets face it, this hasnt been the first time i felt very awkward looking at sony. im not even talking about my ps2, which is basically nested in a huge net of lifesupport, resting in a vacuum glasscage on a tower of pillows so it barely stays operational, im talking about things like the ps3 controller having no rumble because they were to proud to settle a silly patent dispute.
im starting to feel that sony is seriously crumbling apart on all areas and its stories like these that make my still vague feeling that its best to skip sony this generation alltogether a lot more concrete.
i mean, they dont have games, they aparantly dont have the superior hardware (after all, barely anyone has ever seen much of a difference between a ps3/360 port), whats left for a console maker beyond that?
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Old October 23rd, 2008   #2 (permalink)
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Sony's game division public relations have always been arrogant and difficult to get answers from. Never admitting a mistake is now the Sony standard and in a lot of ways it makes the company come across as arrogant. I imagine that they would fix this issue, but not publicly announce that they made a mistake.
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That reminds me a little of that :
Gamers report PSP malfunction - News at GameSpot

Basically, people complaining (a LOT) about a button being somewhat unresponsive, and Sony not really giving a crap.

Basically they took the "People just don't understand us" stand. And telling people to "adapt" (for a flaw that came from THEM) and ignoring complaints completely.


But yeah, that's the kind of thing they'll (most likely) end up fixing silently. They gotta keep up appearances (tho it doesn't work that well) but I doubt they'll just ignore the screen problem completely.
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Old October 23rd, 2008   #4 (permalink)
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Well, I guess I'll be waiting even longer then. When's PSP-4000 coming out?
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Microsoft: relases flawed 360, beats around the bush for a few months.... finally gives in and gives everyone a free 3 year waranty.

Sony: ....yeah
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Old October 23rd, 2008   #6 (permalink)
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Well, all those large corporations are 'business machines'.
They only care about the sell and nothing after the sell is made.

If the action doesn't increase the sells by a significant amount, they will not waste the energy to do so... sadly...
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It's because it's resolved the japanese way and there are 2 possible ways to do it. Not admit it as it's a signal of weakness and silently fix it. It's normal procedure in most companies. The other way is look really ashamed and give something to make up for it. They still won't admit it's their fault but someting they will address to please their customers. This is the apprach of most restaurants and Nintendo.

So far we have had both of them to compare but with Ms on the sight fixing things the american way we really look bad at Sony.

The 3 companies will fix things eventually, they will state things differently. Should we care about what they say if we know they are still going to fix it?
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Financially Sony may not be doing to well. It could be just covering up the huge loses its incurring. This drop in quality may be from the competition relentlessly on all sides digging into their profit margins and reducing the resources sony has to ensure high quality products yet remain competitive with low prices.

- Bluray move sales & adoption are below expectation. They payed the movie studios big bucks to gain bluray exclusivity to win the HD format war. Now some analysts are saying Bluray may lose to downloadable content.

- Big losses in its games divisions, many users for the ps3 are not buying enough software to recoup the loss for each system sold. Lack of software sales is a big problem for the psp.

- Sony is no long the darling of portable music players. Its been a long time since the shockwave cd players and sony tape decks were the most popular brand.

- Tight competition from other companies means less profit in their camera and cellphones.

- The Cell processor hasn't proven to be big success in the computing world.

- Sony Pictures - Not sure about well they are doing. Piracy is cutting into their profits on the DVD side of things.

- Sony Music Entertainment Inc. (SMEI) consisting of comprised of music labels such as Arista Records, Columbia Records, Epic Records, J Records, Jive Records, RCA Records and Zomba. Everyone knows the record labels aren't fairing to well. Piracy has cut deeply into their sales.

- Their High Def TVs are doing pretty well, but they are beginning to be pressured by competing companies including south koreas Samsung.

- Laptop battery problem has cost the company millions upon million.
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It does seem to appear that Sony's dominance over the electronics market is no longer the case. Better competition over the past 5 years or so has really forced Sony to take more risky approaches (blu-ray being the major contributor) and these risks have really yet to pay off.
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Old October 23rd, 2008   #10 (permalink)
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Sony screwups?
Well, PSP firmware people could end up finding a way to fix that interlacing issue, who knows (if it can be solved via software patching). Another good point for custom firmwares, if it can be done so.
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They still make damn good cameras though. My family has a Sony Cyber-shot and it's awesome.
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Too expensive, and additionally vendor-locked to their own expensive batteries and memorycard formats. If it can't use industry-standard MMC/SD/etc cards, then it's too fancy for the audience Sony claims to be targetting.
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you get adapters which turn it into a regular MMC or SD card...besides anything they use is not half as bad as the XD format another brand uses (can't remember which brand that is now).
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- bluray move sales & adoption are below expectation. They payed the movie studios big bucks to gain bluray exclusivity to win the hd format war. Now some analysts are saying bluray may lose to downloadable content.
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- bluray move sales & adoption are below expectation. They thought their move with the ps3 would secure a steady stream of income where they would be losing money from the hardware itself.
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- big losses in its games divisions, many users for the ps3 are not buying enough software to recoup the loss for each system sold. Lack of software sales is a big problem for the psp.
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- big losses in its games divisions, many users for the ps3 are not buying enough software to recoup the loss for each system sold since there is little choice of software worth buying. Lack of software sales is a big problem for the psp as well.
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- the cell processor has proved to be just a bragging point that amounted to more trouble for developers, meaning less quality software on the ps3.
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- sony pictures - not sure about well they are doing. Piracy is cutting into their profits on the dvd side of things.
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- sony pictures - not sure about well they are doing. Piracy is an excuse for the lack of amazingly good films worth buying.
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- sony music entertainment inc. (smei) consisting of comprised of music labels such as arista records, columbia records, epic records, j records, jive records, rca records and zomba. Everyone knows the record labels aren't fairing to well. Piracy has cut deeply into their sales.
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- sony music entertainment inc. (smei) consisting of comprised of music labels such as arista records, columbia records, epic records, j records, jive records, rca records and zomba. Everyone knows the record labels aren't fairing to well as they are coming out with mostly crap that isn't even worth downloading, let alone buying or compilations of songs you most likely have on older albums. But they deny this and blame piracy for a major loss of profit.
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- laptop battery problem has cost the company millions upon million.
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- laptop battery problem has cost the company millions upon millions due to the fact they could not care less in the first place about manufacturing quality until the batteries started exploding, which meant they needed a boot up the arse to even care about the consumer whose health might be affected or equipment might be destroyed as a result of major manufacture defects.
no offense meant to pcxl with the modified points but those are just my points of view that i personally believe to be closer to the truth. As for the piracy = excuse points, i meant that the majority of the profit loss isn't from piracy but there is some profit loss that IS due to piracy. *is not denying that piracy is causing any of this but pointing out that piracy is used as the standard excuse for when there is another problem causing profit loss but they don't want to admit it*
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I agree with all that except your point on piracy. I just chose not to elaborte on the points.

Piracy HAS been a huge issue. I have no qualms with piraters, and i think the last thing they deserve is to be sued by some big media company, but everyone knows that pretty much everyone has done it at some point. Piracy is so rampant now days. I have had plenty of friends who completely stopped purchasing games and music because they could now get it for free.

The PC gaming industry has suffered greatly not only because of the dominance of the consoles and devs wishing to focus on consoles larger install base. Saying that is 90% of the reason and piracy is only 5-10% of the reason they're no longer pc games is a cop out. Piracy is a huge issue. And while I don't think piraters should get jail time and I have no interest in seeing piratebay shut down, I do acknowledge the facts. Piracy has greatly effected these industries.

Even back in 2001 pretty much all my friends were pirating. Still some of them did continue to purchase games, but there is no denying that they were putting less money into it afterwards.

The hong kong music industry was destroyed in the 90's by rampant piracy. Why pay full price when you can get an excellent quality knockoff from a friend who is a street vendor for 15% of the price? Some of the knockoffs are so high quality and so well done it is very hard to distingush them from the real thing.

I purchased what i thought was an import japanese copy of the japanese version of Final Fanyasy VII: Advent Children from some anime store a month before the american release came out. It was only $25, when normally imports like that cost around $50-60. At first I thpough i had gotten the real thing. It even had a fancy embossed paper/cardboard cover. But when I popped the disc in it had the option added for chinese and english (poorly written) subtitles. The japanese version was supposed to have neither, and their never existed any chinese version at the time , I still don't think there is one. Other than that the DVD was exactly the same in every way, including picture quality.
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well about HD TVs, all I know is that a friend of mine bought the most expensive sonymodel 2 or so years ago and got totally screwed over because it even lacks the right plugs to play his PS3 in the way that provides th emost quality. He said it was the last Sony TV he will ever buy and I understand that decission.
But this is exactly what I am complaining about. This is not about asking for an apology, they can resolve their issues however they want, I'm talking about how they can release products like this to begin with. I mean, just out of spite, the image here(this really doesnt look like somethign that can be fixed on the software side):

What could possibly drive them to release this, knowing full well that it will look like this? You're all acting like this is something that accidently came up after release, but no, it's not. They saw this and decided it wasn't an issue and don't get me wrong, if this was like, the DS, that costs a hundred bucks and is basically your quick easy gaming device, I wouldn't say a word.
But the only thing a PSP has going for itself is superior hardware, that is supposed to be superior and brilliant compared to anything else and because of that costs twice as much for half as much fun.
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Whoa... When will people stop jumping Sony...?

(Hey, why don't I hear anyone complain about Wii's gimmick games lately? ;p)
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Less lively than this, I assumed. This discussion came from a tiny PSP screen, onto Sony's whole situation as a company.
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