The Final Fantasy -Anything Thread

[Innocence]

I was introduced to Final Fantasy by playing FF VIII, but it took me a while to get into; but I completed it anyway (over a period of on-and-off playing for a few weeks) and although I didn't entirely like VIII, I eventually bought FF VII which I thought was a much better game - and after realizing that each game in the series was set in a different world, and hence a different experience - I bought more and more over the years.

Let's see...

Completed I and II on GBA, but it took me a while to get hooked to II.
Just recently bought III for DS, not sure of my opinion on that yet...
IV and V were similar, but both were good games (though V is slightly better).
VI not played, but I've heard good things, so I'll get round to it.
VII and IX are my favourites (mostly IX) for different reasons.
I'm currently addicted to X, and am starting to play X-2 (though I'll probably be put off by the girly moments I've seen thus far).
I'm not one for online RPGs, so I dont own XI, and probably never will.
As for my view on XII...

Originally Posted by Phil

If you say FFXII is better then you will be raped

...it's nice to know people's opinions are respected

But, like, I seriously can't wait for XIII and VersusXIII. I plan to own a PS3 just for these games

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[Titus03]

I have completed Final Fantasy games from IV to IX.

IV was the hardest of them, but I liked the game.

Originally Posted by Innocence

(though V is slightly better).

I agree with you.

VI has many good things and I recommend you to play it. In my opinion, V was still better.

VII and IX are my favourites and VII was also the first FF I've played. VIII is the one I've completed twice. Great game, but I don't like perfectly VIII's battle system. Right now I'm playing VII for the second time.

I have started X and I have a savegame in my friend's memory card. Haven't played it in a long time. X-2 was okay, but I recommend it for girls.

I have no opinions on XI and XII.

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[Innocence]

Originally Posted by Titus03

but I don't like perfectly VIII's battle system

Who does like it? Drawing a single spell for a single character would take too much time and get really tedious and annoying, especially if you never use that character or that spell.

I reckon that, although "drawing magic" was way too flawed, the "junction system" had some potential. Sure, I'd like to never see it again - but if Square managed to make it more... I dunno, friendly and interesting, I guess... Then perhaps VIII would be easier to tolerate. However, there were just too many tutorials - well, okay, there wasn't alot of them, but when one did pop up, it would be a dull tour of the game; and each tutorial lasted way too long and was impossible to skip (which is an extra annoyance if your re-playing the game again). The story of VIII was also lacking somewhat, mostly the lack of backstory or meaning to the main baddie. The only thing I truly liked of VIII was its soundtrack, and still believe it has the best music of any FF game. But anyway, that's my rant of VIII.

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[Cross]

Originally Posted by Xblade

Well the same can be said for X,IX,VIII,VII,VI,V,IV,III, and II now can't it?
Also, where did I prove your point? Whatever it may be.

and Chrono Trigger sucked because? It was more cliched? That's a pretty good basis. at least it was made in 95. If it was cliched it helped define those archetypes in an RPG genre.

That and.

Originally Posted by Xblade

Chrono triggers story was even less detailed then XIIs

Your sucky Chrono trigger's story was EVEN less detailed than XII? that doesn't say much of XIIs story now doesn't it?

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[Squall-Leonhart]

Originally Posted by Innocence

Who does like it? Drawing a single spell for a single character would take too much time and get really tedious and annoying, especially if you never use that character or that spell.

I reckon that, although "drawing magic" was way too flawed, the "junction system" had some potential. Sure, I'd like to never see it again - but if Square managed to make it more... I dunno, friendly and interesting, I guess... Then perhaps VIII would be easier to tolerate. However, there were just too many tutorials - well, okay, there wasn't alot of them, but when one did pop up, it would be a dull tour of the game; and each tutorial lasted way too long and was impossible to skip (which is an extra annoyance if your re-playing the game again). The story of VIII was also lacking somewhat, mostly the lack of backstory or meaning to the main baddie. The only thing I truly liked of VIII was its soundtrack, and still believe it has the best music of any FF game. But anyway, that's my rant of VIII.

The higher the magic stat, the more magic you draw each turn. And i drew every available spell from every character where possible.

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[Densetsu]

Originally Posted by Xblade

I'm not a graphics whore thanks.
Chrono triggers story was even less detailed then XIIs and was so cliched (Even for the time it came out). Kidnapped Princess? Oh dear, where have I seen that before? Lets go to our distant apocalyptic future, oh noes, didn't see that one coming.

You are stupid. Oh noes, didn't see that one coming.

See what I did there?

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[buffbiff21]

FF1: played it, but have not beaten it because I never felt compelled to. Plot was dry and battle system archaic.
FF2,3: Have not played.
FF4: I think this was my first FF. Cool characters, excellent music, and intricate plot. This game may not have written the book (DQ did), but it certainly raised the bar for future RPGs IMO.
FF5: Got fairly far (Gilgamesh Battle on the Bridge? I believe) but never finished it. This was ages ago and I think my hard drive failed and I never got the save state file back. So I said **** it and didn't pick it up since. I didn't really get into the job system.
FF6: THE greatest set of characters of all time. Cyan's family actually got killed, Celes almost committed suicide, Kefka actually destroyed the world, etc. The battle system is rudimentary but the Esper system laid the groundwork for FF7's Materia system. Also my favorite soundtrack. Decisive Battle, Fierce Battle, Dancing Mad, Locke, Returners, Techno de Chocobo, map theme, hell I'll just say every track kicks ass.
FF7: What can I say? This game deserves every bit of praise it gets. Great characters, great setting, great plot, graphics, music, etc. The ending was a bit silly IMO and some of that wasn't entirely the translation's fault. I want them to remake FF7 just to do the ending justice.
FF8: Hated it. Junctioning, GFs, "love" story through bland and disinterested dialogue, just didn't add up for me. Things got interesting around the floating city but the lack of a concrete threat or villain subtracted IMO.
FF9: Liked it, but not enough to play twice. Battle theme sucked hardcore.
FF10: Perhaps my personal favorite. I enjoyed it all the way through, and took the liberty of doing all the sidequests and overleveling for a good 200 hrs. Really liked the story and atmosphere. I thought Tidus was cool unlike most reviews I read ?
FF11: skipped it. Not a fan of MMOs.
FF12: I'm preparing my thoughts for another post because I abhor this game, and have not touched it in a year due to lack of motivation.
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FFX Full Throttle: Should not have been made. Charlie's Angels BS.
FFT: skipped it. chesslike strategy games bore me to death.
FF Adventure series: played a bit of one (can't remember which) but never beat it.

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[Darkplayer]

Anyone who managed to reach memoria (FF IX) under 14 hours???

og and is there a nother way to get the GF doomtrain in FF VIII after disc 3? Yes i know it´s was stupid of me not to acuire it earlier!

And i still need some limitbreaks in FF VII

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[Innocence]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

The higher the magic stat, the more magic you draw each turn.

So, in theory, this is just a part of the reason why the junction system is flawed:

I'm guessing the magic stat can be altered/determined by junctioning? But that requires magic to junction to, if you wish to make it better - possibly quite a decent amount of a spell would be required. This means you would have to spend ages constantly drawing a high stock of a spell (which takes time) for each individual character (which takes time) after finding an enemy that gives such a good magic-stat-raising spell (which takes time).

Now, once you have obtained a good amount of a certain spell and junction it to the magic stat, 'the more magic you draw each turn.' However, from my experience of VIII, you cannot get any good spells that raise your stats significantly at the start of the game (let's say, until the start of Disc 2 - after all, why would they give the best spells that could make your party invincible, at the start of the game?). So with this in mind; until you reach a point in the story where you can draw high-level magic (which takes time) and find enemies that give you such spells (which takes time) - you have to draw more magic from them, in order to junction it to magic, so that future draws are more effective; BUT I'm guessing that by the time you reach a high magic stat that yields 35+ spells-per-draw, the game is pretty much over or you already have most of the best spells, rendering your efforts to get a high magic stat wasted. The only upside is if magic determines damage done by your spells - but I'm focusing on the more annoying and flawed drawing mechanic for reasons already specified.

However, that's all just theory - I haven't played VIII in ages, so everything I've just said is probably wrong.

Originally Posted by Darkplayer

Anyone who managed to reach memoria (FF IX) under 14 hours???

og and is there a nother way to get the GF doomtrain in FF VIII after disc 3? Yes i know it´s was stupid of me not to acuire it earlier!

Never reached it in 14 hours, no; mostly because I like to have my games mostly completed, so I go around doing all the side-quests and mini-games I see. As for Doomtrain, I think there is only one way - and that's the use of certain items at Tear's Point (look up the items needed on GameFAQs, then refine them from any cards you have).

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[Squall-Leonhart]

one of the gf's have an ability to raise the Base state upon level up, by the time you get it though you're half way through thegame though :\

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[Exodus]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

The higher the magic stat, the more magic you draw each turn. And i drew every available spell from every character where possible.

Drawing never bothered me too much, and I drew basically like you. The only problem is that I never wanted to use spells.

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[Cross]

I remembered having to draw ultima a 100 times for each character and it also never bothered me, actually found it a little fun.

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[Silenus]

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[Squall-Leonhart]

Originally Posted by Exodus

Drawing never bothered me too much, and I drew basically like you. The only problem is that I never wanted to use spells.

LOL yeah, the only spell i would use was Aura,

my battle setup is

Battle starts
> Squall summons Cerberus
> Zell Summons Doomtrain
> Rinoa Attacks

Second turn
> Squall Uses full Potion (Skip to Rinoa)
> Rinoa uses Triple cast Aura
> Zell uses Holy War.

Consequetive turns are just Limit breaks, until Holywar runs out, then i holy war again, or if i didn't get holy war back on before aura faded (Aura is infinite while holy war is in efect) I triple cast aura again then Holy war, and continue.

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[buffbiff21]

Enough about drawing magic. FF8 makes my head hurt.

What chars did you guys pimp out in FF7 your first time through? I used Cloud for power, Red with a bunch of speed items, and Aeris for healing up until the Temple and then used Cait Sith instead of Aeris from there out. I used Tifa for a while because she's hawt (upskirt madness) but I sucked at timing her limit breaks for some reason.

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[Silenus]

That was one of the problems with FF7.
It didn't have a character type defined.

You could use anyone for anything imo.

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[buffbiff21]

Originally Posted by Silenus

That was one of the problems with FF7.
It didn't have a character type defined.

You could use anyone for anything imo.

VII was at least better than XII in this regard. Way different stats at the very least, and limit breaks.

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[Xblade]

Originally Posted by Densetsu

You are stupid. Oh noes, didn't see that one coming.

See what I did there?

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It doesn't matter were you do it, its against the rules to flame.

Originally Posted by eyt

Your sucky Chrono trigger's story was EVEN less detailed than XII? that doesn't say much of XIIs story now doesn't it?

A war story isn't nearly as cilched as a save the princess and pick up rebels as you go along to save the world story, Sorry.

Also don't come contradicting yourself, its not wise.

Originally Posted by eyt

and Chrono Trigger sucked because? It was more cliched? That's a pretty good basis. at least it was made in 95. If it was cliched it helped define those archetypes in an RPG genre.

I said that Chrono Trigger sucked in comparison to games now because phil said other wise :3.
I understand that that is also your basis for saying FXII wasn't good right? You can't come at a different angle then that, so your start making contradictions.
You'd make a horribly witness.

Originally Posted by buffbiff21

VII was at least better than XII in this regard. Way different stats at the very least, and limit breaks.

Agreed, but you can't say there wasn't any character differences in XII.
Limit breaks define the characters in VII which is also a weakness in some cases. You'd have to torture me to use caithsith because of his limit. Red XX special also sucked incredibly. I think I kept it on moon rave after getting cosmo memory. That game was crying for a break damage limit.

Originally Posted by buffbiff21

Enough about drawing magic. FF8 makes my head hurt.

What chars did you guys pimp out in FF7 your first time through? I used Cloud for power, Red with a bunch of speed items, and Aeris for healing up until the Temple and then used Cait Sith instead of Aeris from there out. I used Tifa for a while because she's hawt (upskirt madness) but I sucked at timing her limit breaks for some reason.

Cloud, Red X(thats what I had him named >_>),Cid, and Vincent.
On my second run-through I used barret(w/e his name is), cloud, and tifa.

Originally Posted by eyt

I remembered having to draw ultima a 100 times for each character and it also never bothered me, actually found it a little fun.

You must of been dedicated >_>. I had only got 100 for Squall.

Originally Posted by Innocence

Who does like it? Drawing a single spell for a single character would take too much time and get really tedious and annoying, especially if you never use that character or that spell.

I reckon that, although "drawing magic" was way too flawed, the "junction system" had some potential. Sure, I'd like to never see it again - but if Square managed to make it more... I dunno, friendly and interesting, I guess... Then perhaps VIII would be easier to tolerate. However, there were just too many tutorials - well, okay, there wasn't alot of them, but when one did pop up, it would be a dull tour of the game; and each tutorial lasted way too long and was impossible to skip (which is an extra annoyance if your re-playing the game again). The story of VIII was also lacking somewhat, mostly the lack of backstory or meaning to the main baddie. The only thing I truly liked of VIII was its soundtrack, and still believe it has the best music of any FF game. But anyway, that's my rant of VIII.

I thought the drawing magic was a refreshing way to mix up the battle system. Also, the main baddie's story was explained in detail across the game. I agree that the soundtrack was pretty nice.

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i remember psp slime was more slimey

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[Cross]

Well, that was what your claims mostly consisted of. If I have to backup mine, then you'll receive the same shallow reasons.

Also, I don't see any contradictions. Care to point it out?

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[Xblade]

You said that you don't like XII because of its short story. You then criticized me saying that I think chrono trigger was worse then FFXII because of its less detailed story.

Originally Posted by eyt

Your sucky Chrono trigger's story was EVEN less detailed than XII? that doesn't say much of XIIs story now doesn't it?

You did all of this, even though I pointed out that I wasn't trying to defend its story.

Originally Posted by eyt

Well, that was what your claims mostly consisted of. If I have to backup mine, then you'll receive the same shallow reasons.

Shallow reasons? Errr Wrong.

I posted link with numerous reviews for XII. You don't really think its coincidence that all of them were 90%+ right. Unless you want to pick up a conspiracy theory that square payed 20 different review sites to give it a good rating. Unless you can give me a matching number of review sites that Insult the story and or game giving the story below and 8/10.

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Originally Posted by Sonic2036

the PS3 needs to be a little more slimer??? the way I see it , its as big as a laptop lol
i remember psp slime was more slimey

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