Final Fantasy XIII coming on xbox360

[snickothemule]

Originally Posted by Xblade

Alas, the majority of gamers are stupid brats that buy movie games.

Most of the brats by pokemon, Mario and sonic. The same damn games over and over again.

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[Xblade]

Originally Posted by Paratech

Some of the "best" final fantasy games were censored in the US, Mass Effect wasn't censored. Mass Effect deals with adult characters making adult decisions, whereas Final Fantasy, as of late, tends to play it safe.

Censored? :O I'm sorry but final fantasy 1 and 2 were most DEFINITely not the best. Even at the time they came out they could of been alot better. The only noticeable censor by square was in kingdomhearts 2. X was mature enough to make me cry.

I bet squall couldn't tell I was a hardcore FFX fan by the way I was comparing it to XII .



It must suck to find out your special someone is an illusion of someone who died 1k years ago.

From the fmv titled "yunas preminition". Yuna dreams of memories that aren't hers. In her dream she and Tidus are shot dead by a battalion of soldiers.


"The people we've lost, and the dreams that have faded, never forget them"
Thats the first time I ever cried while gaming.

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Originally Posted by Sonic2036

the PS3 needs to be a little more slimer??? the way I see it , its as big as a laptop lol
i remember psp slime was more slimey

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XBlade, i don't buy the Shuyin is Tidus BS.

I reckon they were Twins, why do i believe this?
For the sole reasoning that when Zanarkand was attacked and destroyed, Shuyin was nowhere near Zanarkand. Now going on the entire theory of summoning that the game brought up, the only way for fayth dream (or eternal summoning, as thats al it was) is if the Person being summoned existed there at the time that Zanarkand was destroyed.

Now, going by the "The fayth pieced together peoples memories" theory, if Shuyin was this big blitzball star, then memories of him would've been easy to piece together, from fans, family, team members.

This tells me that the only possible scenario is that both Shuyin and Tidus, were real, most likely brothers, and the reason his existance was not told off in FFX, was because since his actual "Essence/Soul" so to speak wasn't present in Zanarkand after the cataclysm, the fayth simply cut him from memories to prevent people asking questions.

Btw... the never forget them scene? you must be kidding, Yuna falling to the floor as she runs through Tidus is the most powerful moment in the entire game, even more so then the Suteki De Ne scene.

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Originally Posted by Xblade

There were no emo people in FFXII
Also vaans original design was a rip off of cloud and leon from VII and VIII.

I was talking about character designs in general, I haven't played FF12, so I wouldn't even know what his character is like, I was merely critizising the general direction most Japanese games have taken for their characters and that it's hard to find a rugged person in it. But well, as long as they put a badass like Cid from FF7 in it, it should make up

Originally Posted by Paratech

Some of the "best" final fantasy games were censored in the US, Mass Effect wasn't censored. Mass Effect deals with adult characters making adult decisions, whereas Final Fantasy, as of late, tends to play it safe.

Hey, at least you got FF6 released, and Chrono Trigger, and Chrono Cross, and ...... I give up

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hmm its a combination of that exact moment and the pipes that play at the time..... Music is a powerful tool of conveying the emotion in a scene.

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Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

I was talking about character designs in general, I haven't played FF12, so I wouldn't even know what his character is like, I was merely critizising the general direction most Japanese games have taken for their characters and that it's hard to find a rugged person in it. But well, as long as they put a badass like Cid from FF7 in it, it should make up

Hey, at least you got FF6 released, and Chrono Trigger, and Chrono Cross, and ...... I give up

...Xenogears, Xenosaga Ep. 1...

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Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

XBlade, i don't buy the Shuyin is Tidus BS.

I reckon they were Twins, why do i believe this?
For the sole reasoning that when Zanarkand was attacked and destroyed, Shuyin was nowhere near Zanarkand. Now going on the entire theory of summoning that the game brought up, the only way for fayth dream (or eternal summoning, as thats al it was) is if the Person being summoned existed there at the time that Zanarkand was destroyed.

Now, going by the "The fayth pieced together peoples memories" theory, if Shuyin was this big blitzball star, then memories of him would've been easy to piece together, from fans, family, team members.

This tells me that the only possible scenario is that both Shuyin and Tidus, were real, most likely brothers, and the reason his existance was not told off in FFX, was because since his actual "Essence/Soul" so to speak wasn't present in Zanarkand after the cataclysm, the fayth simply cut him from memories to prevent people asking questions.

Btw... the never forget them scene? you must be kidding, Yuna falling to the floor as she runs through Tidus is the most powerful moment in the entire game, even more so then the Suteki De Ne scene.

Wrong.
The people in Tidus's Zanarkand were illusions of people that died 1k years ago. It doesn't matter if they actually died in the town. The fayth dreamed up Tidus as how Shyun would of been if he were raised by an idiot(lol jecht) and played bitsball in peace. Also they have the same voice actor. Brothers never have the same voice actor in Final Fantasy. Look at Gabranth and Basche in XII their twins different voice.

Also if you didn't notice the colors of tidus cloths are strikenly in the same place and just altered version's of shyuns.
Not to mention that tidus will only appear after you put shyun to rest and play throug hthe game about 6 times without a guide.
You seem to forget that spira revovles around dead people.
I still feel bugged that yuna still hasn't sent that old man that always wants to explain crap. " I finally have tickets! I just want to shake her hand."

"THe people we've lost and the dreams that have faded,never forgot them" Adds on to the emotion. >_>
X-2 lost all its emotions the moment they played back the song "real emotion".
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Originally Posted by Sonic2036

the PS3 needs to be a little more slimer??? the way I see it , its as big as a laptop lol
i remember psp slime was more slimey

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[Phil]

um the fayth didnt dream up zanarkand. Yu Yevon summoned it

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Originally Posted by Phil

um the fayth didnt dream up zanarkand. Yu Yevon summoned it

What Final Fantasy X where you playing? >_> They said it so many times.
"Please help us go back to sleep" "We've been dreaming for so long". The fayth kept the memory of zanarkand alive it was never real. Yu Yevon can't summon something buildings sorry -..0.

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Originally Posted by Sonic2036

the PS3 needs to be a little more slimer??? the way I see it , its as big as a laptop lol
i remember psp slime was more slimey

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I wonder why Square went for the slutty look on FF X-2. If they wanted to sell more, it wasnt necesary. Its Final Fantasy. That alone is enough to sell a couple of million copies. Not that i have a problem with it, i just find it funny. FFX was all about the dramatic love story. And in X2 they turned into pop singing sluts wtf lol

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Originally Posted by Sonic2036

its Called Phoenim not Pneumonia...

I don't Recommend overlocking pherahps you should tell us your System Species. and Fix your grammar so people could understand you a lot better... at least a little bit and your spelling (I know mine is bad lol but I still can spell better than that , I am not american or from EUR).

I hope this helps

[snickothemule]

I wonder why most of the characters (men included) look like they had Hillary Duff to base designs from.

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Because they have that idiot artist drawing for them - assuming we're talking only of FF.

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Originally Posted by Noja87

I wonder why Square went for the slutty look on FF X-2. If they wanted to sell more, it wasnt necesary. Its Final Fantasy. That alone is enough to sell a couple of million copies. Not that i have a problem with it, i just find it funny. FFX was all about the dramatic love story. And in X2 they turned into pop singing sluts wtf lol

People talk about X-2 like it was this epic failure but that game apparently went over huge in jpn

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The story was crap, but the battle system was fun enough.

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[Xblade]

Originally Posted by Exodus

The story was crap, but the battle system was fun enough.

My thoughts exactly. It would of been better if it had been linear. There was nothing I hated more then running Yuna's skimpy ass all over spira to see that everyone from the previous game has failed in life.lol

Originally Posted by snickothemule

I wonder why most of the characters (men included) look like they had Hillary Duff to base designs from.

The art director or whoever the hell does it has been doing this since Kuja in IX.
It goes worse as it went on in sequals. XII finally reached the "partial nudity" rating. XIII is prolly gonna be a porn film.

Originally Posted by Noja87

I wonder why Square went for the slutty look on FF X-2. If they wanted to sell more, it wasnt necesary. Its Final Fantasy. That alone is enough to sell a couple of million copies. Not that i have a problem with it, i just find it funny. FFX was all about the dramatic love story. And in X2 they turned into pop singing sluts wtf lol

Yuna rikky and paine didn';t have that many hoe suits. From what I can remember tthere was gunner, theif......errm........LADY LUCK<-----ho ho ho merry christmas. I never did get the moogle dress sphere. I got bored at about 76 percent . I was told I would get a different ending for beating it at this percent. I had to resort to youtube. >_>

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Originally Posted by Sonic2036

the PS3 needs to be a little more slimer??? the way I see it , its as big as a laptop lol
i remember psp slime was more slimey

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i think im seeing thinsgs but...
N4G.com : FFXIII Goes to PC - Nvidia

i still have doubts though...

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Originally Posted by Exodus

The story was crap, but the battle system was fun enough.

Yeah, the story was weak, but the battle system was bearable.

And I believe it was the first (or one of the first) games to be labeled officially as SquareEnix. It's easy to see where FFX-2 battle system was influenced from

[snickothemule]

The art director must be a poof.

But the environments are something spectacular.

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[Phil]

Originally Posted by Xblade

What Final Fantasy X where you playing? >_> They said it so many times.
"Please help us go back to sleep" "We've been dreaming for so long". The fayth kept the memory of zanarkand alive it was never real. Yu Yevon can't summon something buildings sorry -..0.

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Taken from the FFX Story
* A huge war rages between the cities of Bevelle and Zanarkand. The war is fought with high-technological weapons, or "machina". Bevelle's machina is far superior to that of Zanarkand. The war lays waste to a large area of land, later known as the Calm Lands (see below). The leader of Zanarkand, the summoner Yu Yevon, fears the worst.
* [X-2] A songstress, Lenne, is famous throughout Zanarkand. In one of her performances, she shakes the hand of a young man named Maechen. Lenne is subsequently sent to the front lines as a summoner. She is willing to give up her life for her city, but her lover, a man named Shuyin, tries to steal Bevelle's secret machina weapon, Vegnagun. Lenne tries to stop him; in the attempt, both Shuyin and Lenne are killed by the forces of Bevelle.
* [X-2] Vegnagun is revealed to be extremely unstable, being unable to tell friend from foe. The forces of Bevelle lock it up deep underneath the city and do not use it in the war.
* At Yevon's behest, many of the people of Zanarkand give up their lives and turn themselves into fayths. (Fayths are souls trapped in statues, whose dreams manipulate a phenomenon called pyreflies. This phenomenon can result in making real that which is not: for example, calling aeons, beings of great power.) Yu Yevon himself merges with the life energy (pyreflies) of the rest of the people to build an invincible armor called Sin. Using Sin, he decimates the army of Bevelle; however, the creation of Sin destroys Zanarkand as well. From within Sin, Yevon uses the fayth to summon a dream Zanarkand: Zanarkand as it was before its destruction, to keep it in its pristine state forever.
* Yu Yevon's daughter, Lady Yunalesca, pioneers a plan to punish Bevelle and honor her father as well. She creates a technique called the Final Summoning, wherein a summoner who trains her aeon-summoning abilities can call the Final Aeon. The Aeon is created from a guardian of the summoner, who has a close bond with her; the guardian is killed and turned into a fayth, who then controls the aeon. Summoning the Final Aeon destroys Yevon's armor Sin, but Yevon then merges with the new aeon and Sin is reborn anew after a time. The summoner also cannot withstand the energy caused by this phenomenon, and dies as well. Yunalesca proclaims that this rite can defeat Sin for a time and give Spira hope for a short while, but unless the world embraces the teachings of Yu Yevon and atones for their sins, Sin will never disappear completely. (This isn't true, but she wishes to give the world hope for a final salvation.)
* Yunalesca uses her husband Zaon as the first Final Aeon. She is then killed by the Final Summoning, but refuses to be Sent to the Farplane. She remains in the ruins of Zanarkand to guide future summoners in the rite of the Final Summoning.
* Bevelle remains in terror of Yevon and Sin, and to appease Yevon begins circulating his teachings (received through Yunalesca). Mainly these revolve around the Final Summoning and a ban on machina (Yevon wishes that the machina war should never happen again). He allows certain non-martial machina (blitzball machines, for instance) to survive. Bevelle disseminates these teachings (along with Yunalesca's plan involving the Final Summoning) and sets up temples throughout Spira. Each temple holds a fayth, whose aeons summoners can train themselves with.
* The Al Bhed, a tribe speaking a foreign language, are unimpressed with Yevon and remain steadfast in using machina. They are labeled traitors by Bevelle and their machina is destroyed whenever possible, or lost (as in the fabled airship). Eventually the Al Bhed lose the knowledge of how to make machina and are forced to use whatever they can salvage without knowing the actual workings of it.
* A song later known as the Hymn of the Fayth (originally sung in Zanarkand) is taken up by those who defy Bevelle, including the fayth inside the temples. At first Bevelle prohibits the use of the song, but after realizing that this isn't working, they instead spread a story about it being sung in defiance of Sin, instead. Eventually it is adopted as a holy song by the Yevonites.

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