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Old June 5th, 2008   #1 (permalink)
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Is EA cutting back on PC titles?

I was given the lists of games coming out for the PS2/Wii/DS/PC for the next year, and I've noticed a few titles are coming for the PS2/Wii but not the PC?

Need for Speed 09
NBA 09
Madden NFL 09

I can't imagine the next Need for Speed coming out for the PS2 but not the PC, WTF?

Are there any other titles we might not be seeing on the PC?

Man, no football in 09 for the PC!

Of course all the reviews I've heard of the 08 games were that they sucked or were bad PS2 ports or both.

Still, I can't imagine these games not coming out for the PC...
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Kinda hard to say, on one hand you have them helping port console games to the PC (they helped port Mass Effect to the PC by choosing the studios and probably pushing the idea) and they must have a part in Burnout Paradise coming to PC (as the publishers, I really doubt EA didn't participate in making that decision).

Anyway, if they're releasing those games on almost every damn consoles, they probably think that the number of gamers wanting to play the game but who won't own any of the consoles targeted will be low enough for them to ignore it. I don't approve of that, but I guess they want to cut back in how much money they gotta spend on development.

I kinda still expect them to have NFS on PC tho...
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Console = less piracy, plus opportunity for exclusivity $$ from console maker, etc...
PC: rampant piracy, make no bone about it (nocd, nodvd, etc...)

BUT I expect these should still see the day on PC (just the console versions getting readied before)
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Look, I might have some nocd/dvd patches, but I own the games with those patches.

If something uses Starforce, it increases the odds I'll look for a patch before I buy the game.

I'm willing to buy games for my PC, in fact I've purchased every Need for Speed from the first one to Pro Street for the PC.

If they don't want me using patches, don't give me crappy protection which will screw up my PC.

From what I've seen every Need for Speed from Most Wanted on sucked for the PS2, yet the next Need for Speed will come out for it? Are PS2 gamers that desperate for racing games?
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If they don't like piracy, or like to lose profit, start programming for the PS3, and start making good games. Done.

Why the PS3? It's the only console on the surface of the Earth that has not been pirated yet. Amazing, isn't it?
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Some of the theories here are right. I remember reading on Kotaku that Peter Moore didn't want to release Madden 09 on the PC due to the rampant piracy.
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Kinda hard to say, on one hand you have them helping port console games to the PC (they helped port Mass Effect to the PC by choosing the studios and probably pushing the idea) and they must have a part in Burnout Paradise coming to PC (as the publishers, I really doubt EA didn't participate in making that decision).

Anyway, if they're releasing those games on almost every damn consoles, they probably think that the number of gamers wanting to play the game but who won't own any of the consoles targeted will be low enough for them to ignore it. I don't approve of that, but I guess they want to cut back in how much money they gotta spend on development.

I kinda still expect them to have NFS on PC tho...
Mass Effect was already heading for the PC before EA got in charge. Anyway, I'm curious about their strategy, they did want to focus more on originality and quality, rather than pumping out bland ports.
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the games can be pirated, but it dosn't matter because theres no way to play them on the PS3 currently... well AFAIK.
i did some quick google searches, and it seems thats still the case.
the closest you can get to running backups is showing it's start-up screen in the browser.

but you can't actually play the game.


and since Next-gen consoles like the PS3 are now involved with Online-Play, Sony can just ban your account if they find you playing a backup/pirated game.
And if they ban your account, then that means no Online play for ALL YOU GAMES.
for a PC game, if they ban your account, then its only for that specific game.


also if you factor in the cost of a Blu-Ray Burner, and the Blue-ray discs, you find that its totally non-economical to pirate games...
unless you're just running the ISO off the PS3 harddrive..
which will probably be harder to make a Hack for, than By-passing the CD-copy protection.

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I would like to see you try to synchronize 7 SPEs and get decent performance....
most PS3 games don't even use all the SPEs.

the engine Final Fantasy XIII is being built with, only takes advantage of 4 of the SPE's i believe. (it might have been 3, but i don't remember...)

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it was 4
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PS mod chips took about 2 years to surface in decent quality.... give it time.
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PS mod chips took about 2 years to surface in decent quality.... give it time.
i'm not saying its not possible, i'm just saying its not out yet.
and that supports what RAP was saying, that games for the PS3 won't suffer from Piracy as you can't currently run pirated games on the PS3.

and also my other point is still valid, about Blu-Ray burners being ridiculously expensive, as well as the blank writable Discs.
i don't expect Reasonable prices with the equipment until about 3~5 years, when the technology becomes standard.

if I was a Developer Concerned about Piracy, Making a PS3 game is a smart option... (although you might loose alot of sales due to not many people owning a PS3; And its also true that Pirating DOES promote game-awareness, so it could be a bad thing if no-one pirates the game )
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frankly I don't care if there's no NFS...eventhough I love ProStreet I hate the idea of a new NFS every year....it would much prefer we hear nothing from them for 3 years or so and then they blow us away with a stunning title...instead of working up to it with a mediocre title every year...
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NF4 was the last good one..... Porsche Unleashed wasn't bad either.
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Neither was NFS-UG2 or ProStreet...the others however lack the magic...
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hi i think right now pc gaming will diminish in volume but evenually there will be more titles. i read an article where several big pc companies are forming a pc gaming alliance to sort out the current mess with pc gaming. its not a good business practice to ignore pc games given console ports are cheap to produce and there is too large a pc audience to ignore. in business, you can still make a profit even if you only sell 5 percent from a sample of 10million. the trick is finding a particular genre that is best suited on the pc. blizzard isnt worried about profit margins since the attraction and sales of their games come from online communities. i also dont think monopolies like intel, nvidia/ati, and especially microsoft want pc gaming to die, so perhaps they might even subsidize publishers with hopes of recouping on hardware sales. ive seen plenty of free game offers with vidcards and laptops lately.
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we don't want PC Ports, PC Ports are crappily unoptimised and usually suffer from a load of bugs. Halo 1 was the first example.. and it hasn't improved at all with further releases.
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i'm not saying its not possible, i'm just saying
and also my other point is still valid, about Blu-Ray burners being ridiculously expensive, as well as the blank writable Discs.
i don't expect Reasonable prices with the equipment until about 3~5 years, when the technology becomes standard.
blu-ray burner and discs aren't that expensive. its like 200e for the burner and 9e per disc. If you consider that ps3 games price is over 50e (at least here)...
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Yeah, as I mentioned, the EA sports games in 2008 apparently sucked and weren't much better than PS2 ports. I dunno as I haven't installed Tiger Woods 2008 yet, which is the only '08 title I own, all the rest are 2007 titles. NFL, NBA, and NHL.
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EA is making crappy pc games lately anyway. Fifa 08 on pc used an older graphic engine than the one used in xbox360/ps3...
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EA is making crappy pc games lately anyway. Fifa 08 on pc used an older graphic engine than the one used in xbox360/ps3...
Yeah I read about it, it's pathetic. Seeing the PC screenshots the money they ask for the roster update is completely unwarranted for. Is it that hard to port the engine to PC, the 360 got released in 2005 and we're still playing PS2 quality games on the most powerful platform out there.
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