Why is Nintendo considered a kid oriented console?

PCXL-Fan · May 23rd, 2008

I know why but I thought we'd continue this converation from the one in the bin in the random thought thread starting on post #6060. (sorry can't direct link to the bin)

If nintendo wants to become an adult oriented console they will have to put there own sweat and blood into creating 1st or 2nd party AA quality console games oriented at adults.

3rd party developers besides EA and Ubisoft aren't going to make mature AA games themselves as the hardcore adult male base isn't that big on the Wii.

This is instead of making halfbaked marketing attempts to appeal to adults, which have included featuring TV ads focusing on gameplay clips from Metroid, Zelda and a few 3rd party adult oriented port titles; revamping their Nintendo power magazine to have a more professional look and due cover featurettes on Metroid and other games, or having press interviews with Regis Phillis talking big about how nintendo is now focused on Adult gamers.

Sure they have games that can appeal to adults, but besides Metroid and Zelda they are more oriented towards kids with cute Characters, colorful worlds, and no engrossing storyline.

Nintendo has always been more conservative in this regard compared to all the other hardware companies including Sega and SNK. I'd like to see a Shenmue type game from Nintendo.

They could also start by creating an awesome 2d Killer Instinct game with 640 x 480 mipmap graphics up the wazzoo.

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mudlord · May 23rd, 2008

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They could also start by creating an awesome 2d Killer Instinct game with 640 x 480 mipmap graphics up the wazzoo.

That would be awesome? Yes.

Would we have it happening? No.

Nintendo is too much the Disney of the gaming world to even realize that KI has appeal.

PCXL-Fan · May 23rd, 2008

Nintendo began solidifying the kid oriented view point in consumers eyes years ago (and have actually been following that stance ferverantly during much of the 90s). Especially back in the '93-'94 when console videogames began moving away from kiddy oriented titles to more mature games. Around this time sega began branching out and began approving release of more mature, violent 1st and 3rd party titles for the genisis and segaCD such as Letal Enforcers, Night Trap and Mortal Kombat with blood. Nintendo on the other hand chastized Sega for releasing these games and came out with a censored version of MK without blood.

Then Senator Joseph Leiberman came in and lead a crusade against violent videogames, bringing alot of heat and (perhaps) bad publicity onto Sega. It is believed by a fair amount that know the history that Howard Lincoln, then Vice President of Nintendo American who happened to be good friends with senator Leiberman brought Night Trap to his attention which lead to the whole campaign, that eventually led to the creation of the ESRB mandatory rating system.

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cowfez · May 23rd, 2008

Personally I think Nintendo focuses more on simplicity, which leads to more childlike themes and gameplay, because they either feel or felt in the past, when they developed their major brands, that simple games are more fun. Or perhaps because it's easier to make a great game from a simple premise. I can say for certain that simplicity has been a mainstay of the great Nintendo titles.

Lord Budweiser · May 23rd, 2008

AFAIK Nintendo wasn't at all kid oriented. The problem lied in Nintendo of America (hence many JRPGs censored in that era). They (Nintendo of America) changed their stance after MK1. We Had, for instance, MKIII with blood, and MKII too, whose SNES version is considered the best.

IMO, people have twisted notions of what is mature and what isn't (IOW, are retards). C'mon! GTA isn't exactly mature, it is 15 yo at best! and FF? pff, give me a break! I was impressed by it before studying literature and before the 3rd JRPGs, and then I saw it is an agglomerate of clichés. And an agglomerate of clichés isn't mature! It can be, at most, result of the mind of a horny teenager.

Putting everything up, I think people have cheesy stances on maturity (just tak a look at twelve year olds: "zOMFG! [anything] is so immature!"

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**Raziel** · May 23rd, 2008

That's the problem, right now, people who say Nintendo is for kids and teens who don't want to be affiliated with anything "cute", but, AFAIK, cute doesn't mean kiddy.
I'm soon 27 and I have no problems playing Mario & co (actually, never had any problems playing Mario in my 16 years of gaming).
And all my friends around my age have no problems playing "cute" Nintendo games, the only ones I can think of are those "I'm too much of a male to play this ****, gimme GTA and Gran Turismo kthx".

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PCXL-Fan · May 23rd, 2008

Adult games aren't just Heavenly Sword or GTA. They can also be games like Shenmue, FFX or Mass Effect, Jade Empire or Metal Gear Solid with engrossing storylines.

While playing Zelda as a kid is fun I think I'd find more enjoyment in playing a game thats a little darker and grittier as him as an full grown mid 20 yr old adult for once with some adult themes.

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**cottonvibes** · May 23rd, 2008

you couldn't just let this topic die huh PCXL-fan?

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Phil · May 23rd, 2008

Easy.

Pokemon sold about 150 million copies. it netted nintendo around 4 billion.

same goes for mario.

face it, theres just too much money in the kid market for nintendo to care about adult games.

BeelzemontZero · May 23rd, 2008

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