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Old February 18th, 2008   #1 (permalink)
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Guys i need your help.

So i have been playing the game i have in my signature and today i got banned for "multi using" accounts which is completely wrong.

Here is the whole conversation via Personal Messages. I need you guys to tell me if i am wrong or right.

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Want to report me and my brother are using the same IP/Computer. His name is Chris57 and mine is Jona87

Thanks
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Denied.
If you want more informations. PM me.
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We only have 1 computer in the house. Me and my brother are playing the game. My friend told me i should inform this in case someone thinks i have multiple accounts. Whats the problem?
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I check and you are playing from 2 IPs differents and 2 differents country. so why do you want IPshare?
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What!? 2 different Ips and 2 Different Country? how is that possible? we both live in Puerto Rico. And we are using the same computer. I can send you the emails. Are you sure you check the RIGHT user? My Brother is called "Chris57" and mine is "Jona87". When im in college i play the game too in the computer lab computers and my friend too. How can i prove that i am right?
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I ask the GA to check all your IPs.
For now you are baned because you didnt respect my post. I tell you to PM me 1rst but you share Ip without my autorizsation.

I can check all your logs, but the GA can. so your ban is temporary. If it's ok he we will unban you
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Im sorry. But what do you mean by not respecting your post? I didnt mean to be rude. Im just a little bit upset because i was banned knowing that i am right. Im not using multiple accounts. My and Brother are playing the game. You said to "pm you first" before sharing ips. But we have been sharing the same computer for the game for like 2 or 3 weeks. I started playing the game a couple of days first when my friend saw me playing it and ask me to make him an account. I didnt know there was a rule for ip sharing untill my friend told me i had to inform this. So i registered to report the bashing and i saw this thread

Sharing IP

So i decided to do the same. Is there anyway i can prove that i am right? You can check my brother Profile and mine. We are in completely different guilds with different friends in the game and different levels, stats and everything. My brother is working right now with my dad. Was he banned too? he is going to flip out when sees this. I'm so dead.
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When you and your brother registered your account you agree 1rst with this:

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I have read, understood and accepted the Terms and Conditions!


Then clicking on the Terms and conditions links (hope you did that) you would see that:

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§1 Services
(I) Conditions of participation
To participate at any game of Gameforge, each user has to accept the Terms
and Conditions. Terms and Conditions refer mainly, but not exclusively to
all services of the online presence of Gameforge


and that:

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§5 Restrictions
(I) Maximum number of accounts
All users agree to use only one account per server. So called "Multis", i.e.
users who do not comply with this agreement, can be deleted or
blocked without prior notice.


And:

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(II) Rules
Full particulars are contained in the gamerules. All users are subject to
the game rules.


So after reading that, you should have read the Game rules on the board where you should have see that:


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II Multi-Accounting

Every player is entitled for a single account at a time per Gladiatus Server. multiple accounts of the same individual will be blocked. Accounts for the sole purpose of increasing victim count and booty/gold also fall under this regulation. If several users are accessing the game using the same network IP (e.g. school, company, group house etc), the respective players are required to report such actions in the relevant server related subforum of the Reports Section of this board found here. Failure to declare such actions can result in an ingame ban.


So, it's not my fault if you didnt read the rules.
By repporting an IPshare and writing here "we have been sharing the same computer for the game for like 2 or 3 weeks" you confess you broke the rules.

I am waiting The GA answer concerning your ban. I think he will wrote me tonight. I hope you understand my position.
And when I said PM me first before sharing, it was because you and your brother had 2 differents IP at that time (ask him if he gave his pass to a player of his guild)

PS: even if you didnt have repported the ipshare I would find it when I make my monthly multi checking.

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Cant believe this. My brother told he haven't gave his account to anyone. If this cant be solved and i stay banned, is a whole year fair? isn't that exaggerated? i was banned until 2009 =\
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And thats it. Still no answer.

But there is something i dont understand. The rules say

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Every player is entitled for a single account at a time per Gladiatus Server. multiple accounts of the same individual will be blocked.


Ok. Me and my brother are 1 USER. And we both have 1 ACCOUNT. So i did not break that rule.

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Accounts for the sole purpose of increasing victim count and booty/gold also fall under this regulation. If several users are accessing the game using the same network IP (e.g. school, company, group house etc), the respective players are required to report such actions in the relevant server related subforum of the Reports Section of this board found here. Failure to declare such actions can result in an ingame ban.
It says i should report it if me and brother are using the same ip. I just reported that. The rule is not specific. It doesnt say i should inform me and my brother will be using the same IP adress BEFORE playing the game. It just says "If several users ARE accessing the game using the same network IP (e.g. school, company, group house etc), the respective players are required to report such actions in the relevant server "

There's no time limit specified for reporting an ip share.It doesn't matter if we have been sharing it for weeks if i report it in time before the mods made their monthly check for ips right? am i right? or am i wrong? We have not break any rules
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Old February 18th, 2008   #2 (permalink)
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I think you're just being thrown around because they think you broke rules and they can't just say it. So they punish you for being right and them being wrong... That's how I understood it. But isn't that a free game? Why are they being such jackasses over it... I understand why you're angry.
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The problem seems to be that your account has been accessed by TWO IP, while the rules says it's fine to report that two people account your account, but as long as it's by the same IP (or something as such).

The guy has seen your account being accessed by more than one IP, so it has been flagged.
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Thats because i access the game at my college too. I already told him that but looks like he didn't read it.
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make another message and try and be very respectful, humble and ass kissy and emphasize that you used to access the account from your college when you were there.

He probably gets a hundred emails a day and just skimmed over your email and missed certain details.

Even if its not the case ass he's being a jerk like Radix said it wouldn't hurt to send one email emphasizing very humbly and respectfully about the college ip thing.
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That guy has a boss. Find out who it is and talk to him.
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That guy has a boss. Find out who it is and talk to him.
Trying to get over the head of the guy will just piss him off, who's to say his boss will see things differently? It's possible the boss will think the same thing, or that the boss will trust his employee more than a random guy who's possibly cheating, the boss can't be sure if he was indeed cheating or not.

Before trying to talk to the boss, he should simply take everything that was said, and make a short version, to try and show that he wasn't cheating and that it was only a misunderstanding.



The guy on the other end has only seen one thing at a time, which made it look as if the OP wasn't respecting the rules, but taking them all at once could prove otherwise.

Just making a passive respectful letter with everything shown in it could prove that he wasn't cheating or abusing the rules and get a ruling in his favor.

If THAT doesn't work, then going for the boss could be a idea. But trying to not piss-off the guy who's job takes care of his account is a better idea first.
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