List of cdrom/dvd models supporting subchannel reading.

[I-Chan]

Originally posted by BDA7DD
I'm looking for suggestions for a good slot-loading 16x/48X (or better) DVD-ROM drive, and I'd prefer one that can not only read subchannels, but can also have its region changed (through a firmware flash or otherwise) to Region-0 (aka. regionless.) Anything you guys can suggest? Just to let you know, my preferred brands of CD/DVD-ROM drives (in descending order) are Lite-On, Plextor, Pioneer and AOpen. Also, I refuse to buy anything made by Creative. Their sound cards suck, their optical drives suck, and I just can't forgive them for what they did to Aureal.

Maybe a little late... this might be a great choose:

LG DRD 8160-B

It's 16x DVD read, 48x CD-ROM read; reads subchannels (at least, using alcohol 120%). And, with firmware update from this page, or this one, it's rpc-1. It's pretty reliable, truly 48x in CD reading (it allows me 'on the fly' copys at 24x on my cd-rw).

Ah!, my two drives support subchannel reading, i think both of them have been mentioned:

LG DRD 8160-B | LG CD-RW 8240-B

Have fun!!

[Galway no Sora]

I use my plextor CD RW and thats no problem on reading subchannel data. It's a PlexWriter 40/12/40A. But my Sony 48x CDROM and Pionner DVD 116R doesn't support subchannel data reading.

If you fell slower using physical CD/DVD ROM, why don't you using virtual CD/DVD ROM that support subchannel data like Daemon Tools [www.daemon.-tools.de]? You can make the CD image with CloneCD [www.elby.de] and use it with ePSXe without need to fear slower access [because this will depend on your hard drive speed].

[fatality]

What is the significance of being able to use the subchannel reader? I've been able to run it using my IODATA CRWD-AB20J though.

[Galway no Sora]

fatality, mostly CD protection are stored in subchannel data. If you want to make the ISOs then you need a reader that capable to read subchannel data for 1:1 copies.

You can check your IODATA CRWD-AB20J capability in http://www.elby.ch/english/products/...writers/a.html.

[Napro]

my Lite-on LTR-48246S seems to work tho i still run all my gamez from isoz

[Galway no Sora]

my Lite-on LTR-48246S seems to work tho i still run all my gamez from isoz

Well congreat to you, Napro. Your Lite-on LTR-48246S support Correct EFM- Encoding, RAW+96 read mode and RAW- DAO 96 write mode [http://www.elby.ch/english/products/.../l.html#liteon]

[Drack]

Originally posted by Galway no Sora
fatality, mostly CD protection are stored in subchannel data. If you want to make the ISOs then you need a reader that capable to read subchannel data for 1:1 copies.

The use of subchannel checking for commerical CD copy protections is becoming a less used technique. The latest SafeDisc 2 and SecuROM versions almost totally ignore the subchannels. Yet for PSX protection (Libcrypt) being able to write +96 subchannels is quite helpful.

[Itikmon]

I dont know about the rest of it, but my "BENQ" CDrom works just fine although I prefer to use the clone img to play.

[cryptonite]

here is the deal i have a toshiba DVD rom but for some reson i can't get my laptop to play my PS games i have a whole bunch of games but none of them work. I have done everything i am supposed to do i am using windows XP. It used to work when i had bleem on my windoes ME could someone pls help me out

[Galway no Sora]

Hmm, you asked in wrong thread ??? It's OK, post your computer spec and ePSXe plugin you're using.

[cryptonite]

pentium III 870mhz processor, 250mb ram, 10G hard drive, Toshiba DVD/CD rom 8x DVD speed and 24x CD speed i know this sounds slow but it worked b4 I installed windows xp. This weblink will give you more info about the DVD/CD rom http://support.packardbell-europe.co...ap#Description I have an external CD-R/RW which is much faster it reads the cd but epsxe does not seem to be able to play the game using that drive. It does not even spin when i use my internal drive talk lees of reading it and i don't know haw to store the games on my hard drive. I have tried verious plugins. I have tried everyone on this site some of them kinda start working but instead of the game loading my screen becomes black

[op3n_skill]

Does Liteon 16X 10X 48X work real good?
Im using sub channel files... havent tried the other modes yet.

[Drack]

> I have an external CD-R/RW which is much faster it reads the cd but epsxe does not seem to be able to play the game using that drive. It does not even spin when i use my internal drive talk lees of reading it and i don't know haw to store the games on my hard drive. I have tried verious plugins. I have tried everyone on this site some of them kinda start working but instead of the game loading my screen becomes black

Well, I doubt that the drive is your problem, toshiba always makes very good cd readers and it should have no problem reading a PSX disc, even if it is copy protected. I would reccomend that you check to see if your plug-ins are configured correctly, try a different plug-in, or try making a CD image of the game you are trying to play and run it from that.

> Does Liteon 16X 10X 48X work real good?
Im using sub channel files... havent tried the other modes yet.

LiteON drives have some of the best writing quality available. I reccomend RAW DAO+96 for writing, and RAW+96 of reading. I don't know about in the PSX plugin, just do what ever that works.

[Galway no Sora]

LiteOn CD RW have a good quality both in writing and reading. Only one complain about them as my brother's shop sell it : loud when spinning the disc .

[op3n_skill]

whoops.... its just 32X read, not 40.....
like 404's with osok firmware...

[Drack]

>LiteOn CD RW have a good quality both in writing and reading. Only one complain about them as my brother's shop sell it : loud when spinning the disc

Yes both reading and writing in the LiteON drives are very good. If you want the best in reading the Toshibas DVD's are the best IMO.

[sonicjam]

this emulator use to work on my pc now it don't I'm so mad :cuss2:

[Galway no Sora]

Originally Posted by Drack

Yes both reading and writing in the LiteON drives are very good. If you want the best in reading the Toshibas DVD's are the best IMO.

It's from Elby version, with CloneCD. But, AFAIK that CloneCD compability CD RW list isn't correct [about 1 and 2 stars] of EFM encoding [I test it myself], I would not thinking Toshiba is the best until I can proove it by myself.

Originally Posted by sonicjam

this emulator use to work on my pc now it don't I'm so mad :cuss2:

What the ....? You're posting in the false thread, man.

[Drack]

>It's from Elby version, with CloneCD. But, AFAIK that CloneCD compability CD RW list isn't correct [about 1 and 2 stars] of EFM encoding [I test it myself], I would not thinking Toshiba is the best until I can proove it by myself.

EFM encoding only makes a difference in the writing stage. Yes it is true that Toshiba isn't the best at CD writing qulaity, but its reading capabilities are quite good. Really though it doesn't matter, as long as the drive supports RAW +96 reading it can do just about anything.

[Galway no Sora]

Originally Posted by Drack

EFM encoding only makes a difference in the writing stage. Yes it is true that Toshiba isn't the best at CD writing qulaity, but its reading capabilities are quite good. Really though it doesn't matter, as long as the drive supports RAW +96 reading it can do just about anything.

For EFM [as you said], its useless for CD reader and only needed by CD burner. But, in many case [almost all] CD reader have a big problem reading CD that "un-supported" by CloneCD.

For Toshiba, Elby [in their Help files] stated the best reader, not writing. And thats for DVD ROM, not CD ROM.