for those wishing for PS2 emulators.....

bong · December 27th, 2001

Thsi will answer your questions.
it's from a very smart guy who does his research very well.
DONT GET TURNED OFF BYT THE TECH JARGON.

Arse will follow up right away with a layman's explanation so you dont have to be an engineer to understand it.

PS2 VS PC.
http://www.arstechnica.com/cpu/2q00/ps2/ps2vspc-1.html

Tech overview of the PS2
http://www.arstechnica.com/reviews/1...ion2/ee-1.html

Sony's biggest mistake was crippling the ps2 with a four mb graphics buffer BUT
no x86 cpu can even come close to it's number crunching power.

The xbox just has a superior graphics chip but that tweaked up celeron 700 is no match for the ps2 cpu.

There is a reason why the US military "asked" Japan to restrict exports of the ps2 to not so friendly countries.
That is a fact.

Whoever · December 27th, 2001

These are great articles. Well written and pretty indepth. They make the PS2 sound quite impressive, but it does seem that its downfall will be a lack of main ram and video ram. This will limit the size of textures, models, level size, and over-all detail and image quality. Still if the programmers can figgure out how to fully utilize all those wacky vector units and all the bandwitdth that is available we should see some amazing games... I can't wait to see what FFXII will look like.

Cyberman · December 27th, 2001

Quote:

bong
Sony's biggest mistake was crippling the ps2 with a four mb graphics buffer BUT
no x86 cpu can even come close to it's number crunching power.

The xbox just has a superior graphics chip but that tweaked up celeron 700 is no match for the ps2 cpu.

I would say AMD's hammer will. It's execution unit is much improved over the P4 and it can handle a lot more instructions per cycle as well.
A P4 2.0ghz might be close also.
AMD Althalon 20xp will be too.. however they will have more latency problems with cache misses. That's why AMD is making the hammer.

Cyb

Ronin85 · December 27th, 2001

You can guide a nuclear missle with a GBA.

nuff said.

Neojag · December 27th, 2001

what?

**Betamax** · December 27th, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by Ronin85
You can guide a nuclear missle with a GBA.

nuff said.

Hell. You can send a man to the moon with a ZX81

Neojag · December 27th, 2001

and don't forget to travel in time with a copy of Chrono trigger!

**Betamax** · December 28th, 2001

Now where the heck did I put that spare Flux capacitor

carnage179 · December 28th, 2001

What?

Oh, your talking about how advanced the systems are. That's cool. A gba is more advanced that the old space shuttles. I've got to learn more about hardware and ****. Some one wanna teach me?

Mich760 · December 28th, 2001

Hey I been to the moon with my ZX Spectrum...in Jetpack!

carnage179 · December 28th, 2001

god I feel dumb:sad: :sad: :sad:

smartguy15_2000 · December 28th, 2001

i went to the moon too! on my home made pocket rocket! :eek:

duh! how did a ps2 topic turn into a discussion about space travel aircrafts? and how did this topic end up in this section of the forum?

bah! u guys sure know alot about today's technology... i'm behind, still trying to make my old fashioned toaster work so i can have toaster stroodles for breakfast

December 27th, 2001	#1 (permalink)
bong Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 18	for those wishing for PS2 emulators..... Thsi will answer your questions. it's from a very smart guy who does his research very well. DONT GET TURNED OFF BYT THE TECH JARGON. Arse will follow up right away with a layman's explanation so you dont have to be an engineer to understand it. PS2 VS PC. http://www.arstechnica.com/cpu/2q00/ps2/ps2vspc-1.html Tech overview of the PS2 http://www.arstechnica.com/reviews/1...ion2/ee-1.html Sony's biggest mistake was crippling the ps2 with a four mb graphics buffer BUT no x86 cpu can even come close to it's number crunching power. The xbox just has a superior graphics chip but that tweaked up celeron 700 is no match for the ps2 cpu. There is a reason why the US military "asked" Japan to restrict exports of the ps2 to not so friendly countries. That is a fact.

December 27th, 2001	#2 (permalink)
Whoever Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Narragansett, RI. USA Posts: 188	These are great articles. Well written and pretty indepth. They make the PS2 sound quite impressive, but it does seem that its downfall will be a lack of main ram and video ram. This will limit the size of textures, models, level size, and over-all detail and image quality. Still if the programmers can figgure out how to fully utilize all those wacky vector units and all the bandwitdth that is available we should see some amazing games... I can't wait to see what FFXII will look like. __________________ Compaq SR1000Z: AMD Sempron 3000+ (Barton - 2.0Ghz - 512K L2 Cache) Asus mobo - VIA KM400 1GB PC2700 RAM: (512 Samsung, 512 Micron) OEM Radeon 9600 Pro 256MB @ 486/234 Seagate 7200rpm 80gig Samsung CD-RW 48x16x16 Generic 250W PSU 19" LG Widescreen LCD 16:10 1440x900 Windows XP Home

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Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,480	Now where the heck did I put that spare Flux capacitor __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product.

December 27th, 2001	#4 (permalink)
Ronin85 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 21	You can guide a nuclear missle with a GBA. nuff said.

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carnage179 #$@^! Join Date: May 2001 Location: sitting in the most comfortible chair ever! Posts: 2,197	What? Oh, your talking about how advanced the systems are. That's cool. A gba is more advanced that the old space shuttles. I've got to learn more about hardware and ****. Some one wanna teach me? __________________ One old cactus.

December 28th, 2001	#10 (permalink)
Mich760 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 15	Hey I been to the moon with my ZX Spectrum...in Jetpack!

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carnage179 #$@^! Join Date: May 2001 Location: sitting in the most comfortible chair ever! Posts: 2,197	god I feel dumb:sad: :sad: :sad: __________________ One old cactus.

December 28th, 2001	#12 (permalink)
smartguy15_2000 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chocobo Forest Posts: 143	i went to the moon too! on my home made pocket rocket! :eek: duh! how did a ps2 topic turn into a discussion about space travel aircrafts? and how did this topic end up in this section of the forum? bah! u guys sure know alot about today's technology... i'm behind, still trying to make my old fashioned toaster work so i can have toaster stroodles for breakfast

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