Question about Pete's GPU.

**Kellicros** · December 1st, 2001

I am wondering why Pete's Hardware plugin can't do the auto-smothing(blurring), while the soft gpu can do it well.
As far as I know the FF8 PC use this function too, it can make the background and 2d graphic looks a bit better, not that pixeled!.

Shaft · December 1st, 2001

If I remember correctly, pete's opengl plugin does have smoothing, I don't remember how to turn it on though. It's an easter egg, search the board for easter egg and you should find it. It really makes things run slow though.

Schädelkeks · December 1st, 2001

shift + pageup to activate it

but it is very slow

**Raziel** · December 1st, 2001

IIRC correctly Pete once said that it was possible to have that sort of smoothing with his harware plugins but it would slow down his plugin(not as much as the easter egg I believe

).

**kairi00** · December 1st, 2001

Wait wait wait.... by smoothing/blurring, do you mean "motion blur" or "bilinear filtering"?

AFAIK Soft GPU doesn't have motion blur, but there's auto bilinear filtering if you use it on an nVidia-based video card.

Now if you want bilinear filtering in Pete's OGL or D3D, then set the filtering mode to "2 - Extended"

However, if you want motion blur, then it's Shift + PgUp, and it's slow as hell on most standard hardware config

**Betamax** · December 2nd, 2001

It'll probably work fast on a geforce 10 or something.

psxyke · December 2nd, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by kairi00

AFAIK Soft GPU doesn't have motion blur, but there's auto bilinear filtering if you use it on an nVidia-based video card.

Also in ATI Radeon cards

In games in 2d it is incredible the effect

Kawaks games :love:

**kairi00** · December 2nd, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by Betamax
It'll probably work fast on a geforce 10 or something.

Don't quote me on this, but I recall reading a post somewhere that Pete managed to get the blur effects running full speed on his system....so, no we don't have to wait that long... a GeForce3 would suffice

**Pete Bernert** · December 2nd, 2001

The "easter egg" fullscreen smoothing was a try to implement fullscreen effects like Eagle, SAI, etc... the plugin reads the whole gfx card buffer, apply some effect on the sceen data, and writes it back again... but since that method is driving todays gfx cards to their limits (at least in higer resolutions), I never did a more complex filter, right now it's a simple box blurr effect of my own.

Well, but you can try to use "filtering + sprite smoothing" with my 1.55 plugins

eazye · December 2nd, 2001

wow you got 1.55 out already seems like yesterday when i got 1.54

**Kellicros** · December 2nd, 2001

what I meant for the auto-smoothing is the blurring effect in software gpu, yup on nVidia card.
I tried shift + page up.And yes, it 's way slow.
Why it do both 2D and 3D? is there any posibility to do the blurring effect on 2D graphic(just like what they do in FF8 PC)?

BTW, YAY!! Pete's GPU 1.55 is OUT!!!
thanks Pete, I 'll try out your "filtering + sprite smoothing" now!

**fivefeet8** · December 2nd, 2001

I just tested petes d3d and ogl version 1.55 on my voodoo 5 5500 with FF9..

The Filtering with sprite smoothing Looks great for Non FSAA capable cards even at higher resolutions.. The best is still with 4xFSAA with filtering + sprite smoothing at 640x480 though.. I could put up a screenshot, but they aren't working at the moment..

The ogl version of petes gpu pluggins has better quality 4xFSAA for my voodoo 5 than with the d3d one.. Ogl and glide seems to have better quality FSAA than d3d in epsxe on a voodoo 5..

eazye · December 2nd, 2001

oh yeah put up another good lookingcar from gt2 so i can use it as my wallpaper

December 1st, 2001	#1 (permalink)
Kellicros Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Posts: 7,684	Question about Pete's GPU. I am wondering why Pete's Hardware plugin can't do the auto-smothing(blurring), while the soft gpu can do it well. As far as I know the FF8 PC use this function too, it can make the background and 2d graphic looks a bit better, not that pixeled!. __________________ Kellicros' DeviantArt Last edited by Evil Squall; December 1st, 2001 at 13:17.

December 1st, 2001	#2 (permalink)
Shaft meh.... Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 116	If I remember correctly, pete's opengl plugin does have smoothing, I don't remember how to turn it on though. It's an easter egg, search the board for easter egg and you should find it. It really makes things run slow though. __________________ Allahu Akbar Pentium 4 2 GHz 128 MB Geforce 4 Ti4600 Sound Blaster Audigy 2 512 MB RD800Ram 80 Gig Maxtor HD 7200 3dMark 2001 SE -> Pure HW 10165

December 1st, 2001	#4 (permalink)
Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,147	IIRC correctly Pete once said that it was possible to have that sort of smoothing with his harware plugins but it would slow down his plugin(not as much as the easter egg I believe ). __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @4GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400 Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS Last edited by Raziel; December 1st, 2001 at 23:21.

December 1st, 2001	#5 (permalink)
kairi00 Puchiko-nyu! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: 49° 11' N 123° 10' W Posts: 2,854	Wait wait wait.... by smoothing/blurring, do you mean "motion blur" or "bilinear filtering"? AFAIK Soft GPU doesn't have motion blur, but there's auto bilinear filtering if you use it on an nVidia-based video card. Now if you want bilinear filtering in Pete's OGL or D3D, then set the filtering mode to "2 - Extended" However, if you want motion blur, then it's Shift + PgUp, and it's slow as hell on most standard hardware config __________________ "Not every ejaculation deserves a name." --- George Carlin

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Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,480	It'll probably work fast on a geforce 10 or something. __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product.

December 1st, 2001	#3 (permalink)
Schädelkeks Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 104	shift + pageup to activate it but it is very slow

December 2nd, 2001	#9 (permalink)
Pete Bernert FREAK Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 874	The "easter egg" fullscreen smoothing was a try to implement fullscreen effects like Eagle, SAI, etc... the plugin reads the whole gfx card buffer, apply some effect on the sceen data, and writes it back again... but since that method is driving todays gfx cards to their limits (at least in higer resolutions), I never did a more complex filter, right now it's a simple box blurr effect of my own. Well, but you can try to use "filtering + sprite smoothing" with my 1.55 plugins

December 2nd, 2001	#10 (permalink)
eazye Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: kanata Posts: 215	wow you got 1.55 out already seems like yesterday when i got 1.54

December 2nd, 2001	#11 (permalink)
Kellicros Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Posts: 7,684	what I meant for the auto-smoothing is the blurring effect in software gpu, yup on nVidia card. I tried shift + page up.And yes, it 's way slow. Why it do both 2D and 3D? is there any posibility to do the blurring effect on 2D graphic(just like what they do in FF8 PC)? BTW, YAY!! Pete's GPU 1.55 is OUT!!! thanks Pete, I 'll try out your "filtering + sprite smoothing" now! __________________ Kellicros' DeviantArt

December 2nd, 2001	#12 (permalink)
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 7,574	I just tested petes d3d and ogl version 1.55 on my voodoo 5 5500 with FF9.. The Filtering with sprite smoothing Looks great for Non FSAA capable cards even at higher resolutions.. The best is still with 4xFSAA with filtering + sprite smoothing at 640x480 though.. I could put up a screenshot, but they aren't working at the moment.. The ogl version of petes gpu pluggins has better quality 4xFSAA for my voodoo 5 than with the d3d one.. Ogl and glide seems to have better quality FSAA than d3d in epsxe on a voodoo 5.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel Q6600@3.2 ghertz\|4x1gb DDR2 1066\|Asrock 1600sli 110db LGA 775\|EVGA 8800gtx@620/1450/975\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\|Seagate 7000.10 500gb HD\|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Antec TP 650 watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|20.1" 5ms LCD 1680x1050 Native\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/15" Sub\|Dual Boot Winows XP Pro/Vista 64bit\|\| 2nd Rig\|\|Athlon64 x2 3800+\|2x1 gig PC3200\|BFG Geforce 6800 Ultra OC @450/1250 agp\|60 gig Maxtor IDE HD 7200 RPM\|40 gig Maxtor IDE HD\|Asrock Dual SATA2\|Silver Aluminum ATX\|17" LCD\|\| 3rd Rig\|\|Athlon Xp 2800+\|1.5 gig PC2700\|BFG GeforceFx 5900 Ultra OC agp\|100 gig Maxtor SATA HD\|NF7-s rev2.0\|Nvidia Soundstorm MCP\|19" CRT\|\| Last edited by fivefeet8; December 2nd, 2001 at 07:53.

December 2nd, 2001	#13 (permalink)
eazye Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: kanata Posts: 215	oh yeah put up another good lookingcar from gt2 so i can use it as my wallpaper

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