Graphical error's

Bobby · November 26th, 2001

Hi everyone

Im a big Tomb Raider fan and i've noticed that when playing any raider game (1-5) in epsxe 1.4.0 that objects seem to "shake" when lara moves-basically when you walk or move at all any objects surrounding her will shake continuoisly untill you stop moving.
Things like textures on tree's and walls etc, its hard to explain but i was wondering has anyone else noticed this prob?
To be honest its mainly in TR3.
Could this be an emulator bug, or a gpu plugin bug?
Or perhaps its driver related? i dont think its driver related though because ive been using detonators for ages and have tryed many versions without success.
Its a minor prob as the game is still fully functioal using 1.4.0

Im using a Geforce 2 gts with detonators 22.80 (the latest ones)
Athlon 650
256mb ram
Pete's 1.54 (latest) opengl gpu
eternal spu 1.10
internal cdr plugin
win 98 se

Any help appreciated

Bobby.

**Demigod** · November 26th, 2001

The Tomb Raider games have some problems with the textures and often times they'll stretch and morph awkwardly, especially when seen from certain angles. I haven't really encountered anything seriously wrong with it though, I don't see any "shaking" the likes of what you're describing. However, I've only played the PC versions so I'd guess it has to do something with the playstation console and its 3D rendering pipeline.

cairey · November 27th, 2001

Well, Tomb Raider II and III are working fine here. The only thing I can think of that maybe what you are thinking of is no depth buffering for perspective correction i.e. "wavey textures".

Hairybudda · November 27th, 2001

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Originally posted by cairey
Well, Tomb Raider II and III are working fine here. The only thing I can think of that maybe what you are thinking of is no depth buffering for perspective correction i.e. "wavey textures".

I dont think tomb raider series on the PS uses a depth buffer..... I could be wrong....

*stoned*

cairey · November 27th, 2001

Maybe I didn't phrase my self right, sorry. What I meant was the PS GPU doesn't have a depth buffer, neither do the GPU's for the emu's. So no games can use it.

Hairybudda · November 27th, 2001

Yea, i understand. It prolly is perspective correction, so he could try an openGL plugin and force his card to do 'GL_NICEST' on the texture correction bit. It could fix the perspective correction...

*stoned*

**Prafull** · November 27th, 2001

Just to let you know ,Tomb Raider 5 works fine here.No "shaking" errors as he mentioned.

Sorrento · November 28th, 2001

uhmm all of them work fine for me... with lewpy's plug in....

**fivefeet8** · November 28th, 2001

All tomb Raider games work fine, but once you go underwater, weird graphical errors starts to happen.. Look up when underwater and you will see what I mean..

Bobby · November 29th, 2001

Yes i think wavey textures would explain it right. ive done a serious of tests and found that yes it only happens on tr3 but the under water problem i could only find on tr2 where backgrounds and objects become err would transparent be the word fivefeet8??
i wonder can pete have a look for his next release as his opengl plugin is so sweet!! (dont use d3d plugin as i have a weird line going from the top to the bottom of the screen on the right hand side of the screen)
Cheers for the replies guys

Bobby.

November 26th, 2001	#1 (permalink)
Bobby supa win2k gamer Join Date: May 2001 Location: Dublin Ireland Posts: 99	Graphical error's Hi everyone Im a big Tomb Raider fan and i've noticed that when playing any raider game (1-5) in epsxe 1.4.0 that objects seem to "shake" when lara moves-basically when you walk or move at all any objects surrounding her will shake continuoisly untill you stop moving. Things like textures on tree's and walls etc, its hard to explain but i was wondering has anyone else noticed this prob? To be honest its mainly in TR3. Could this be an emulator bug, or a gpu plugin bug? Or perhaps its driver related? i dont think its driver related though because ive been using detonators for ages and have tryed many versions without success. Its a minor prob as the game is still fully functioal using 1.4.0 Im using a Geforce 2 gts with detonators 22.80 (the latest ones) Athlon 650 256mb ram Pete's 1.54 (latest) opengl gpu eternal spu 1.10 internal cdr plugin win 98 se Any help appreciated Bobby. Last edited by Bobby; November 26th, 2001 at 22:38.

November 26th, 2001	#2 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	The Tomb Raider games have some problems with the textures and often times they'll stretch and morph awkwardly, especially when seen from certain angles. I haven't really encountered anything seriously wrong with it though, I don't see any "shaking" the likes of what you're describing. However, I've only played the PC versions so I'd guess it has to do something with the playstation console and its 3D rendering pipeline. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

November 27th, 2001	#3 (permalink)
cairey Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: England Posts: 215	Well, Tomb Raider II and III are working fine here. The only thing I can think of that maybe what you are thinking of is no depth buffering for perspective correction i.e. "wavey textures". __________________ http://go.to/cairey - My Home Page

November 27th, 2001	#5 (permalink)
cairey Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: England Posts: 215	Maybe I didn't phrase my self right, sorry. What I meant was the PS GPU doesn't have a depth buffer, neither do the GPU's for the emu's. So no games can use it. __________________ http://go.to/cairey - My Home Page

November 27th, 2001	#6 (permalink)
Hairybudda st0ned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Glasgow Posts: 233	Yea, i understand. It prolly is perspective correction, so he could try an openGL plugin and force his card to do 'GL_NICEST' on the texture correction bit. It could fix the perspective correction... stoned Last edited by Hairybudda; November 27th, 2001 at 14:36.

November 27th, 2001	#7 (permalink)
Prafull Administrator, PCSX2 tester Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: India Posts: 674	Just to let you know ,Tomb Raider 5 works fine here.No "shaking" errors as he mentioned. __________________ E6750, Abit ip35E, XFX 8600GT 256 MB DDR3, Transcend 2GB DDR2 800 RAM

November 28th, 2001	#8 (permalink)
Sorrento Sirene Scale Shogun Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Santafe de Bogota, Colombia Posts: 182	uhmm all of them work fine for me... with lewpy's plug in.... __________________ Sorrento An EmuManiaC Athlon XP 2800+, MSI K7N2 DELTA2 MoBo, 512MB PC3200 Kingston Ram, GeForce FX 5700 Ultra 3, 80 and 60 Maxtor Diamond 3 HDD, LG-32x10x40x CDRW, Pioneer DVD 104-F

November 28th, 2001	#9 (permalink)
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 7,577	All tomb Raider games work fine, but once you go underwater, weird graphical errors starts to happen.. Look up when underwater and you will see what I mean.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel Q6600@3.2 ghertz\|4x1gb DDR2 1066\|Asrock 1600sli 110db LGA 775\|EVGA 8800gtx@620/1450/975\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\|Seagate 7000.10 500gb HD\|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Antec TP 650 watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|20.1" 5ms LCD 1680x1050 Native\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/15" Sub\|Dual Boot Winows XP Pro/Vista 64bit\|\| 2nd Rig\|\|Athlon64 x2 3800+\|2x1 gig PC3200\|BFG Geforce 6800 Ultra OC @450/1250 agp\|60 gig Maxtor IDE HD 7200 RPM\|40 gig Maxtor IDE HD\|Asrock Dual SATA2\|Silver Aluminum ATX\|17" LCD\|\| 3rd Rig\|\|Athlon Xp 2800+\|1.5 gig PC2700\|BFG GeforceFx 5900 Ultra OC agp\|100 gig Maxtor SATA HD\|NF7-s rev2.0\|Nvidia Soundstorm MCP\|19" CRT\|\|

November 29th, 2001	#10 (permalink)
Bobby supa win2k gamer Join Date: May 2001 Location: Dublin Ireland Posts: 99	Yes i think wavey textures would explain it right. ive done a serious of tests and found that yes it only happens on tr3 but the under water problem i could only find on tr2 where backgrounds and objects become err would transparent be the word fivefeet8?? i wonder can pete have a look for his next release as his opengl plugin is so sweet!! (dont use d3d plugin as i have a weird line going from the top to the bottom of the screen on the right hand side of the screen) Cheers for the replies guys Bobby.

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