G'ah.. Problem.

gwydion_eredhel · August 29th, 2001

Chrono Cross has worked great for me up to this point.. But yesterday, I decided to go ahead and end this game to unlock New Game+ .. Unfortunately, after beating the Time Devourer, the screen faded to black and the game froze. I used the Chrono Cross patch, F4, F5, and whatever else I could think of. *shrugs* .. I've been using a Radeon card with Pete's D3D.. and yes, yes, I know OpenGL is so much better.. for Geforce users, who have much better drivers.. -_-"

..Anyway, I did try the OpenGL plugin, just to see if it would work. Then, I tried it with my Voodoo 2 and Lewpy's Glide.. which produced better results than the previous 2. It showed the first frame of what I'm guessing were the credits. *shrugs*

If anyone knows how to help, it would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks.

gerbilcannon · August 29th, 2001

d3d is probably the best plug-in for your radeon, and I think for that part you have to turn on fvp, but my memory could be wrong.

gwydion_eredhel · August 29th, 2001

^_^ Thanks for the feedback.. I tried with FVP.. with all my plugins. I spent about 2 hours configuring and reconfiguring my gpu plugins..

Then I started changing out the cd-rom plugins.. As it turns out, it's a read error-- the only problem is, I get the same results with EVERY plugin I use. .. I suppose that either means that all the plugins I use are either misconfigured or simply incompatible.. or that the cd is damaged, or something to that effect. I don't really know how to rip PSX games.. Besides, this isn't the place to be talking about things like that I suppose.. So, I dunno.. *shruugs* Sorry for rambling on like that.. o.o

Chronic_Matt · August 29th, 2001

game damaged........

freezing is mainly caused by damaged otherwise epsxe shows a error

KillerShots · August 29th, 2001

If you own the game, ripping is just fine - the emu even has native support for it. Just run BlindRead/Write or Goldenhawk CDRWin and create a .bin file (or a bwt file, the format is the same). Then, instead of running the CD, hit run iso, and point to your "ripped" game. That's it! The advantage? Most of the time (99.999%+), I have been able to run games that were "damaged" by doing this. I then immediately back it up on another CD (as I HATE having more than 25 images on my hard drive at a time), and it should run fine (if the reading software read w/o errors).

For error handling, I believe BlindRead/Write is the better option.

Good luck!

gwydion_eredhel · August 30th, 2001

Hrmm.. I tried making an image with ISO Buster, and it kept giving bad sector errors when it reached 85% .. Then with BlindRead, it took a little time getting though the parts that ISO Buster had trouble with, but it made the file.. The only problem is the fact that the .iso runs the same way the cd did; freezes as soon as the screen fades to black. *_* .. After that I downloaded Daemon Tools and tried mounting the .iso and running it that way; Same problem..

With Lewpy's Glide and my V2 in wireframe mode I can get a bit more to show, though.. back at the beach with Marle, Crono, and Lucca.. but after a couple of seconds, it freezes. *shrugs*

Heh.. I'm saving for a PS2, so I guess I can just wait until then... Thank you all for your help though.. ^_^

gerbilcannon · August 30th, 2001

Sounds like your cd is just plain messed up then, sorry.

KillerShots · August 31st, 2001

No...if BlindRead says that it got an error-free image, then it got a perfect image...which means that the problem goes beyond just being a bad CD. If you can, try another machine...see if the same thing happens. I know that game has many, many endings, maybe it's also possible you found one that ePSXe doesn't emulate...also, try using FPSE, AdriPSX, etc., and if you have VGS, try that too.

Upon failing that, I believe that ePSXe has a place where you can mail save-states that freeze on you in the interests of improving the emu... Maybe you found one such problem... maybe you're using a Kalisto copy... maybe it's just a driver problem... maybe this... maybe that... I can't say. If you do send a save-state, be aware that the problem will still not be solved until possibly at the next release.

Neojag · August 31st, 2001

after just-beating the time-devourer, u just see the credits, that ending sucks...

do the chrono-cross spell (its preety complicated, so check a walktrough) to get a decent ending (it may work like that) and after seing the ending if it freezes just Dload a save game w/ newgame + (if u need one just tell me

)

Neojag · August 31st, 2001

oh, and i got a Kalisto copy (cof cof cof) and it works perfectly m8...

Arpanet · August 31st, 2001

Takes a lot of guts to admit that, Neo... I'm impressed. Sorta.

gwydion_eredhel · August 31st, 2001

Hrmm.. Well.. I'm not gonna even THINK about d/l'ing a 600+ MB image with a dialup connection. -_-" .. Probably wouldn't do it anyway.

Well.. I guess this is making things more complicated than need be; .. I posted my save here.. d'you think one of you could get New Game+ and email the save back, or something? I haven't been able to find any saves that weren't waaaay into the game..

My email addy is ssj_foofighter@yahoo.com ..

Neojag · August 31st, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by Asfaloth
Takes a lot of guts to admit that, Neo... I'm impressed. Sorta.

ehehe
i dindt bought it

a friend of mine did and i just copied it from him, i was tired of waiting 4 it to reach portugal

anyway, i buy that games that deserve to be bought, and FF9 isnt one of those...

Neojag · August 31st, 2001

dude, go to www.gamefaqs.com and get a mem card w/ new game +!!! its far more easy...

RiGoRmOrTiS · August 31st, 2001

i had a nacked copy of Xenogears (sorry nowhere sells it, i had to get a copy). the first cd was scratched to hell, and it was randomly locking. and when i tried to make a .bin i got bad sector errors too.
What you want to do is use CDRWin and you can actually select for it to ignore errors and continue regardless. I did this, and used the
iso and i played right thru the game with no problems. I cant see
why the same wouldnt work here.

August 29th, 2001	#1 (permalink)
gwydion_eredhel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 5	G'ah.. Problem. Chrono Cross has worked great for me up to this point.. But yesterday, I decided to go ahead and end this game to unlock New Game+ .. Unfortunately, after beating the Time Devourer, the screen faded to black and the game froze. I used the Chrono Cross patch, F4, F5, and whatever else I could think of. shrugs .. I've been using a Radeon card with Pete's D3D.. and yes, yes, I know OpenGL is so much better.. for Geforce users, who have much better drivers.. -_-" ..Anyway, I did try the OpenGL plugin, just to see if it would work. Then, I tried it with my Voodoo 2 and Lewpy's Glide.. which produced better results than the previous 2. It showed the first frame of what I'm guessing were the credits. shrugs If anyone knows how to help, it would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks.

August 29th, 2001	#2 (permalink)
gerbilcannon The Pretty One Join Date: May 2001 Location: Collegedale, TN Posts: 1,247	d3d is probably the best plug-in for your radeon, and I think for that part you have to turn on fvp, but my memory could be wrong. __________________ "Me? I'm a pop idol." "And you will shed tears of scarlet!"

August 29th, 2001	#5 (permalink)
KillerShots War Games coder Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,918	If you own the game, ripping is just fine - the emu even has native support for it. Just run BlindRead/Write or Goldenhawk CDRWin and create a .bin file (or a bwt file, the format is the same). Then, instead of running the CD, hit run iso, and point to your "ripped" game. That's it! The advantage? Most of the time (99.999%+), I have been able to run games that were "damaged" by doing this. I then immediately back it up on another CD (as I HATE having more than 25 images on my hard drive at a time), and it should run fine (if the reading software read w/o errors). For error handling, I believe BlindRead/Write is the better option. Good luck! __________________ Primary CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Mobo: Biostar N4SLI-A9 RAM: 2G Crucial (DDR400) Video: eVGA GeForce 7900 GTX (512M) Audio: HDA X-Mystique HD(s): Maxtor 300G SATA2, Samsung 400G SATA2 OS(s): WinXP x64 Pro, Vista x32 Ultimate, Gentoo x64 Monitor(s): Primary - 19" Flat Panel (1280x1024) Secondary - 19" Flat Panel (1280x1024) Tertiary - Zenith 42" Plasma TV (1024x768 res) Many other machines... sig too short

August 30th, 2001	#6 (permalink)
gwydion_eredhel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 5	Hrmm.. I tried making an image with ISO Buster, and it kept giving bad sector errors when it reached 85% .. Then with BlindRead, it took a little time getting though the parts that ISO Buster had trouble with, but it made the file.. The only problem is the fact that the .iso runs the same way the cd did; freezes as soon as the screen fades to black. _ .. After that I downloaded Daemon Tools and tried mounting the .iso and running it that way; Same problem.. With Lewpy's Glide and my V2 in wireframe mode I can get a bit more to show, though.. back at the beach with Marle, Crono, and Lucca.. but after a couple of seconds, it freezes. shrugs Heh.. I'm saving for a PS2, so I guess I can just wait until then... Thank you all for your help though.. ^_^ Last edited by gwydion_eredhel; August 30th, 2001 at 16:33.

August 30th, 2001	#7 (permalink)
gerbilcannon The Pretty One Join Date: May 2001 Location: Collegedale, TN Posts: 1,247	Sounds like your cd is just plain messed up then, sorry. __________________ "Me? I'm a pop idol." "And you will shed tears of scarlet!"

August 29th, 2001	#3 (permalink)
gwydion_eredhel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 5	^_^ Thanks for the feedback.. I tried with FVP.. with all my plugins. I spent about 2 hours configuring and reconfiguring my gpu plugins.. Then I started changing out the cd-rom plugins.. As it turns out, it's a read error-- the only problem is, I get the same results with EVERY plugin I use. .. I suppose that either means that all the plugins I use are either misconfigured or simply incompatible.. or that the cd is damaged, or something to that effect. I don't really know how to rip PSX games.. Besides, this isn't the place to be talking about things like that I suppose.. So, I dunno.. shruugs Sorry for rambling on like that.. o.o

August 29th, 2001	#4 (permalink)
Chronic_Matt Banned Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Unknown Posts: 60	game damaged........ freezing is mainly caused by damaged otherwise epsxe shows a error

August 31st, 2001	#8 (permalink)
KillerShots War Games coder Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,918	No...if BlindRead says that it got an error-free image, then it got a perfect image...which means that the problem goes beyond just being a bad CD. If you can, try another machine...see if the same thing happens. I know that game has many, many endings, maybe it's also possible you found one that ePSXe doesn't emulate...also, try using FPSE, AdriPSX, etc., and if you have VGS, try that too. Upon failing that, I believe that ePSXe has a place where you can mail save-states that freeze on you in the interests of improving the emu... Maybe you found one such problem... maybe you're using a Kalisto copy... maybe it's just a driver problem... maybe this... maybe that... I can't say. If you do send a save-state, be aware that the problem will still not be solved until possibly at the next release. __________________ Primary CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Mobo: Biostar N4SLI-A9 RAM: 2G Crucial (DDR400) Video: eVGA GeForce 7900 GTX (512M) Audio: HDA X-Mystique HD(s): Maxtor 300G SATA2, Samsung 400G SATA2 OS(s): WinXP x64 Pro, Vista x32 Ultimate, Gentoo x64 Monitor(s): Primary - 19" Flat Panel (1280x1024) Secondary - 19" Flat Panel (1280x1024) Tertiary - Zenith 42" Plasma TV (1024x768 res) Many other machines... sig too short Last edited by KillerShots; August 31st, 2001 at 00:52.

August 31st, 2001	#9 (permalink)
Neojag :: [ Sauron's Eye ] :: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: In the Land of Mordor, where the Shadows lie... Posts: 3,259	after just-beating the time-devourer, u just see the credits, that ending sucks... do the chrono-cross spell (its preety complicated, so check a walktrough) to get a decent ending (it may work like that) and after seing the ending if it freezes just Dload a save game w/ newgame + (if u need one just tell me ) __________________

August 31st, 2001	#10 (permalink)
Neojag :: [ Sauron's Eye ] :: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: In the Land of Mordor, where the Shadows lie... Posts: 3,259	oh, and i got a Kalisto copy (cof cof cof) and it works perfectly m8... __________________

August 31st, 2001	#11 (permalink)
Arpanet Powerslave Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The eyes of the night Posts: 1,812	Takes a lot of guts to admit that, Neo... I'm impressed. Sorta. __________________ -----------------------------------THE\|ALCHEMIST----------------------------------- P4 2.4C @ 3 GHz \| 512 MB Corsair XMS PC3200 DDR400 Dual Channel 2-2-4-5 Asus P4P800 BIOS 1010 \| WD800JB SE Caviar \| RADEON 9700 Pro 128 MB DDR a.k.a. Asfaloth. Batards unite!

August 31st, 2001	#12 (permalink)
gwydion_eredhel Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Lothlorien Posts: 5	Hrmm.. Well.. I'm not gonna even THINK about d/l'ing a 600+ MB image with a dialup connection. -_-" .. Probably wouldn't do it anyway. Well.. I guess this is making things more complicated than need be; .. I posted my save here.. d'you think one of you could get New Game+ and email the save back, or something? I haven't been able to find any saves that weren't waaaay into the game.. My email addy is ssj_foofighter@yahoo.com ..

August 31st, 2001	#14 (permalink)
Neojag :: [ Sauron's Eye ] :: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: In the Land of Mordor, where the Shadows lie... Posts: 3,259	dude, go to www.gamefaqs.com and get a mem card w/ new game +!!! its far more easy... __________________

August 31st, 2001	#15 (permalink)
RiGoRmOrTiS Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 16	i had a nacked copy of Xenogears (sorry nowhere sells it, i had to get a copy). the first cd was scratched to hell, and it was randomly locking. and when i tried to make a .bin i got bad sector errors too. What you want to do is use CDRWin and you can actually select for it to ignore errors and continue regardless. I did this, and used the iso and i played right thru the game with no problems. I cant see why the same wouldnt work here. __________________ -RiGoRmOrTiS RiGoRoUsLy RiGoRmOrTiS

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