New vid card to speed up Gfx card buffer?

Captain N. · July 11th, 2001

I currently have an athlon 700 with a TNT2 Ultra. If I upgrade to a GeForce 2MX will that make a difference in the Gfx card buffer option in Pete's OpenGL plugin? Is is a vid card thing or a software thing?

Currently epsxe is pretty close to allowing me to throw away my old PS-One (an old dream that is almost true, thanx epsxe team), but it slows down too much with that mode on.

Thanks for any reply.

July 11th, 2001

Unfortunately, I think it has to do w/the plugin itself. I have a GEForce 2 GTS and it sows down some for me as well, but not to much.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

**Demigod** · July 11th, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by Captain N.
I currently have an athlon 700 with a TNT2 Ultra. If I upgrade to a GeForce 2MX will that make a difference in the Gfx card buffer option in Pete's OpenGL plugin? Is is a vid card thing or a software thing?

Currently epsxe is pretty close to allowing me to throw away my old PS-One (an old dream that is almost true, thanx epsxe team), but it slows down too much with that mode on.

Thanks for any reply.

I don't think it will. I assume the Gfx card buffer speed is dependent on the speed of the memory. The GeForce 2 MX uses SDR memory at 175 Mhz (or somewhere around there), which is about the same speed as the TNT2 Ultra. The rendering speed should be much improved but the memory speed shouldn't.

Rargh · July 11th, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by sxamiga
Unfortunately, I think it has to do w/the plugin itself. I have a GEForce 2 GTS and it sows down some for me as well, but not to much.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Sxamiga, i m VERY :love: intersted by the speed of this swirl effect (for example in ff9) w/o the FSAA on ur Geforce 2GTS, cuz' i m going to change my old *cough* geforce256.

Could u say it to me plz?
I d really appreciate it
thx a lot

Ben · July 11th, 2001

Rargh, on my system:

Athlon 1.2Ghz
256mb Ram
GeForce II GTS Pro 64Mb (Hercules) 12.90 Dets
WinXP
Using Pete's OGL @ 1280x1024x32, w/o FSAA

I get 60fps constant on the FF9 Swirl

I hardly turn FSAA on, because when I was playing FF9, it strugled in the menus with it on at that res!
Reason I play at that res is because WinXP seems to have a bug in its changing of the desktop setting (which Pete uses on his OGL) so it doesn't size down to say 800x600!

**Raziel** · July 11th, 2001

Ben,does the swirl run at fullspeed with 4xFSAA turned on?Cause I have exactly the same video card as you and I'll get an Athlon 1.33GHz in a few days,so I just wondered how it ran on your system which will be quite similar to mine.

Rargh · July 11th, 2001

Thx a lot ben...

However raziel (i m guessing), I doubt that the swirl effect will turn at 60 fps w/ FSAA 4x...
(And again i m just guessing)

Sawasdee

**fivefeet8** · July 11th, 2001

I have a voodoo 5 5500, tbird gig, and the swirl effects run at 60fps all the time in FF7, FF8, and FF9.... Of course I use lewpys glide pluggin.....so that probably makes a difference....plus I run it off the cd rom drives too. I play at 640x480, with 4xFSAA on..... Makes both 2d and 3d look great.... Much less pixellated 2d backgrounds, clean looking 3d, 60 fps.... FSAA is sweet!!

**Raziel** · July 11th, 2001

Well,actually Rargh,the GeForce2 Pro has much better FSAA performances than the GTS because of the additionnal 32 MB of Ram and becaus ram is faster too(GTS's Ram=333 MHz/GTS Pro's Ram=400 MHz).
And of course much much better performance than your GeForce256

which only provides FSAA via software,when the GeForce2 provides Hardware FSAA.

Neojag · July 11th, 2001

does the Gforce 2 MX have hardware FSAA?

Enigma1982 · July 11th, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by Neojag
does the Gforce 2 MX have hardware FSAA?

Sure..............
GeForve2MX,GTS,Pro,Ultra everything same except clock

Rargh · July 11th, 2001

I would say that the memory isn t the same too (like the mx400 for example which is awfully sad: 64bits sdr w/ 4.5 ns of latency)

The geforce 2 mx is the "lite" version of the GTS one...
( 2 pipelines instead of 4 for example...)

and yes of course the clock isn t the same....

sawasdee

Ben · July 11th, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by Raziel
Ben,does the swirl run at fullspeed with 4xFSAA turned on?Cause I have exactly the same video card as you and I'll get an Athlon 1.33GHz in a few days,so I just wondered how it ran on your system which will be quite similar to mine.

Nah! it drops to about 45fps @ 1280x1024, however 800x600 it gets 60fps (well 59.9 as Pete's GPU always shows now for NTSC)

D3D seems to suffer quite a bit with XP and the 12.90 Dets, that drops to 30fps at 800x600! long live OGL!

as mentioned the only bit that mainly suffers with FSAA on is the menus! that drops to about 40fps once again @ 1280x1024, 800x600 is fine once again!

**Raziel** · July 11th, 2001

Thx for your reply Ben

July 11th, 2001	#1 (permalink)
Captain N. Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52	New vid card to speed up Gfx card buffer? I currently have an athlon 700 with a TNT2 Ultra. If I upgrade to a GeForce 2MX will that make a difference in the Gfx card buffer option in Pete's OpenGL plugin? Is is a vid card thing or a software thing? Currently epsxe is pretty close to allowing me to throw away my old PS-One (an old dream that is almost true, thanx epsxe team), but it slows down too much with that mode on. Thanks for any reply.

July 11th, 2001	#6 (permalink)
Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,147	Ben,does the swirl run at fullspeed with 4xFSAA turned on?Cause I have exactly the same video card as you and I'll get an Athlon 1.33GHz in a few days,so I just wondered how it ran on your system which will be quite similar to mine. __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @4GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400 Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS

July 11th, 2001	#7 (permalink)
Rargh Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,238	Thx a lot ben... However raziel (i m guessing), I doubt that the swirl effect will turn at 60 fps w/ FSAA 4x... (And again i m just guessing) Sawasdee Last edited by Rargh; July 11th, 2001 at 14:39.

July 11th, 2001	#8 (permalink)
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 7,577	I have a voodoo 5 5500, tbird gig, and the swirl effects run at 60fps all the time in FF7, FF8, and FF9.... Of course I use lewpys glide pluggin.....so that probably makes a difference....plus I run it off the cd rom drives too. I play at 640x480, with 4xFSAA on..... Makes both 2d and 3d look great.... Much less pixellated 2d backgrounds, clean looking 3d, 60 fps.... FSAA is sweet!! __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel Q6600@3.2 ghertz\|4x1gb DDR2 1066\|Asrock 1600sli 110db LGA 775\|EVGA 8800gtx@620/1450/975\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\|Seagate 7000.10 500gb HD\|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Antec TP 650 watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|20.1" 5ms LCD 1680x1050 Native\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/15" Sub\|Dual Boot Winows XP Pro/Vista 64bit\|\| 2nd Rig\|\|Athlon64 x2 3800+\|2x1 gig PC3200\|BFG Geforce 6800 Ultra OC @450/1250 agp\|60 gig Maxtor IDE HD 7200 RPM\|40 gig Maxtor IDE HD\|Asrock Dual SATA2\|Silver Aluminum ATX\|17" LCD\|\| 3rd Rig\|\|Athlon Xp 2800+\|1.5 gig PC2700\|BFG GeforceFx 5900 Ultra OC agp\|100 gig Maxtor SATA HD\|NF7-s rev2.0\|Nvidia Soundstorm MCP\|19" CRT\|\| Last edited by fivefeet8; July 11th, 2001 at 16:00.

July 11th, 2001	#9 (permalink)
Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,147	Well,actually Rargh,the GeForce2 Pro has much better FSAA performances than the GTS because of the additionnal 32 MB of Ram and becaus ram is faster too(GTS's Ram=333 MHz/GTS Pro's Ram=400 MHz). And of course much much better performance than your GeForce256 which only provides FSAA via software,when the GeForce2 provides Hardware FSAA. __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @4GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400 Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS

July 11th, 2001	#2 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	Unfortunately, I think it has to do w/the plugin itself. I have a GEForce 2 GTS and it sows down some for me as well, but not to much. sincerely, sx/amiga

July 11th, 2001	#5 (permalink)
Ben Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 136	Rargh, on my system: Athlon 1.2Ghz 256mb Ram GeForce II GTS Pro 64Mb (Hercules) 12.90 Dets WinXP Using Pete's OGL @ 1280x1024x32, w/o FSAA I get 60fps constant on the FF9 Swirl I hardly turn FSAA on, because when I was playing FF9, it strugled in the menus with it on at that res! Reason I play at that res is because WinXP seems to have a bug in its changing of the desktop setting (which Pete uses on his OGL) so it doesn't size down to say 800x600!

July 11th, 2001	#10 (permalink)
Neojag :: [ Sauron's Eye ] :: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: In the Land of Mordor, where the Shadows lie... Posts: 3,259	does the Gforce 2 MX have hardware FSAA? __________________

July 11th, 2001	#12 (permalink)
Rargh Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,238	I would say that the memory isn t the same too (like the mx400 for example which is awfully sad: 64bits sdr w/ 4.5 ns of latency) The geforce 2 mx is the "lite" version of the GTS one... ( 2 pipelines instead of 4 for example...) and yes of course the clock isn t the same.... sawasdee

July 11th, 2001	#14 (permalink)
Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,147	Thx for your reply Ben __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @4GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400 Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS

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