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RealityX · July 9th, 2001

The main PC I am testing this on is a PIII 1GHZ w/ a Matrox Millenium G450 Dual Head & 256mb ram

The plugins I am using are the latest versions of Pete's DX6 D3D Driver & Pete's Soft Driver.

WIth Pete's DX6 D3D Driver:

Full Screen Mode 1024x768 resolution 32 Bit
Texture Quality: R8 G8 B8 A8 Filtering: 4. Extended w/out sprites, unfiltered 2D
Caching Type: Dynamic, FPS is on Auto Detect
Offscreen Drawing: 4. Extended
Advanced Blending: 2. Hardware
Framebuffer Textures: 2. Gfx Card Buffer, Alpha Multipasss, and Mask Bit are checked. All the misc stuff is unchecked.

WIth this I get great looking 3D stuff, everything thats made out of polygons looks great, however the 2D backgrounds in games like FF9 & Legend Of Dragoon look awful, they seem low res , and dont look very detalied.

With Pete's Soft Driver:

Full Screen Mode 1024x768 resolution 32 Bit, Auto Detect FPS, and standard scanlines enabled.

With this I get great looking baclgrounds, high res, they just look beatiful, however the 3D objects are a mess, characters look like like they are very low res.

What I want is to have nice backgrounds, and nice 3D graphics at the same time, are there any settings I can change on any of these 2 plugins to make them display high res 2D backgrounds & nice 3D gfx ??

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Last edited by RealityX; July 9th, 2001 at 02:28..

Kazuya · July 9th, 2001

Um, why aren't you using the pete's opengl driver? Works best with most games......

Rargh · July 9th, 2001

Well just try filtering w/ sprites that time...
If u think it s great, keep it.

(if u can t bear the tile effect tough, try the scanlines.)
BTW, i ve heard (didn t check yet) that if u change the texel alignement to the upper number, the tiles should be less noticeable...

bye

RealityX · July 9th, 2001

I get all types of errors, including "illegal operation" errors with the OpenGL driver.

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C2D E6800 @ 3.6
Radeon 4870 X2
4GB DDR2

Last edited by RealityX; July 9th, 2001 at 02:33..

Rargh · July 9th, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by Kazuya
Um, why aren't you using the pete's opengl driver? Works best with most games......

well here what i ve read from the epsxe FAQ:

Now here's a list for the best plugins for the most popular graphic cards :
3Dfx Voodoo 2 --> Lewpy Glide plugin (could crash with certain drivers)
3Dfx Voodoo 3 --> Pete D3D DirectX7 plugin
3Dfx Voodoo 5 --> Pete D3D DirectX7 or Lewpy Glide plugin
ATI Radeon --> Pete's OpenGL plugin
ATI Rage 128 / Expert --> Pete D3D DirectX7 plugin
Geoforce 2 / 256 --> Pete's OpenGL plugin
Matrox G200 / G400 --> Pete D3D DirectX6 plugin
NVidia TNT/TNT2 --> Pete's OpenGL plugin
... the rest --> Pete D3D DirectX7 plugin

bye

RealityX · July 9th, 2001

Which # is filtering with sprites? I dont see anything that says that. Is it 1 & 2?

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C2D E6800 @ 3.6
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4GB DDR2

Last edited by RealityX; July 9th, 2001 at 02:36..

Enigma1982 · July 9th, 2001

No,Matrox card will work fine with PeteD3DX6 only
If use with OpenGL or D3DX7 plugin graphic will have glitches

Rargh · July 9th, 2001

oh sorry.

I meant that was the second filtering option.

Extended filtering

bye

Enigma1982 · July 9th, 2001

Try to follow my config
It should give best2D/3D quality in same time

**fivefeet8** · July 9th, 2001

try to play the game at 640x480...... then set filtering to standard without spites or standard....... If you got 4xFSAA, use it and set filtering to standard wo/sprites.....

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RealityX · July 9th, 2001

Ok, I set it up like yours, and now the 2D stuff looks better, however, it still doesnt look as good as with Pete's Soft Driver, but this is playable enough for me. Thanx.

BTW, do you know where I can get a good Freeware or Shareware BMP to JPG converter so I can post some pictures?

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C2D E6800 @ 3.6
Radeon 4870 X2
4GB DDR2

Rargh · July 9th, 2001

try acdsee.

it s very useful, simply to use and very fast too...
(BTW it s a shareware: 30 days evaluation period)

bye

update: i forgot to post the link ^^
www.acdsee.com

(easy but hey.

)

Last edited by Rargh; July 9th, 2001 at 02:52..

Enigma1982 · July 9th, 2001

Try HypersanpDX at
http://www.hyperionics.com
It very useful.............
It is coverter and snaper in same program
Try it

RealityX · July 9th, 2001

Ok, I'll try both. Thanx to all who helped me and gave suggestions

__________________
Windows Vista SP1
C2D E6800 @ 3.6
Radeon 4870 X2
4GB DDR2

Enigma1982 · July 9th, 2001

One more thing you can check out my screenshot by Matrox G400 here it same config (Just not same version of plugin

)
http://boards.psxemu.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=942

jas_kidd32 · July 9th, 2001

i have almost the same spec as u realityX (except i have a G400 not a G450) and i understand ur issue on graphics. my only concern is the black lines on the background and the speech boxes. is there any solution on the black line on the speech boxes?? Pete's soft GPU seems to fix this (scanlines turned on) but i don't want to use pete's soft driver GPU. btw openGL GPU's are the worse on my matrox G400.

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johnsonlam · July 9th, 2001

Hello All,

ePSXe was great since it introduce the plugin system, and thanks Pete for all the great plugins.

The best quailty Soft plugin was Pete and Kazzuya's, D3D was Pete and Segu, others still need to work harder!

And then I found that some screen glitches was caused by the emulator itself (e.g. Hokuto no Ken, that is Fist of the North Star), let's wait for the next release.

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Adair · July 9th, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by RealityX
BTW, do you know where I can get a good Freeware or Shareware BMP to JPG converter so I can post some pictures?

Well you could try the programs that rargh and enigma suggested, but what I do is just open a .bmp in MS Paint and then I go to save as and I tell it to save as a .jpg and it works fine.

firestarter · July 9th, 2001

Quote:

Originally posted by RealityX

WIth this I get great looking 3D stuff, everything thats made out of polygons looks great, however the 2D backgrounds in games like FF9 & Legend Of Dragoon look awful, they seem low res , and dont look very detalied.

FFIX and Legend of Dragoon both have special fixes, you need them so they can work.

July 9th, 2001	#1 (permalink)
RealityX I'm cool. Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arizona, USA. Posts: 113	ePSXe Graphics The main PC I am testing this on is a PIII 1GHZ w/ a Matrox Millenium G450 Dual Head & 256mb ram The plugins I am using are the latest versions of Pete's DX6 D3D Driver & Pete's Soft Driver. WIth Pete's DX6 D3D Driver: Full Screen Mode 1024x768 resolution 32 Bit Texture Quality: R8 G8 B8 A8 Filtering: 4. Extended w/out sprites, unfiltered 2D Caching Type: Dynamic, FPS is on Auto Detect Offscreen Drawing: 4. Extended Advanced Blending: 2. Hardware Framebuffer Textures: 2. Gfx Card Buffer, Alpha Multipasss, and Mask Bit are checked. All the misc stuff is unchecked. WIth this I get great looking 3D stuff, everything thats made out of polygons looks great, however the 2D backgrounds in games like FF9 & Legend Of Dragoon look awful, they seem low res , and dont look very detalied. With Pete's Soft Driver: Full Screen Mode 1024x768 resolution 32 Bit, Auto Detect FPS, and standard scanlines enabled. With this I get great looking baclgrounds, high res, they just look beatiful, however the 3D objects are a mess, characters look like like they are very low res. What I want is to have nice backgrounds, and nice 3D graphics at the same time, are there any settings I can change on any of these 2 plugins to make them display high res 2D backgrounds & nice 3D gfx ?? __________________ Windows Vista SP1 C2D E6800 @ 3.6 Radeon 4870 X2 4GB DDR2 Last edited by RealityX; July 9th, 2001 at 02:28..

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July 9th, 2001	#2 (permalink)
Kazuya Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 19	Um, why aren't you using the pete's opengl driver? Works best with most games......

July 9th, 2001	#3 (permalink)
Rargh Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,238	Well just try filtering w/ sprites that time... If u think it s great, keep it. (if u can t bear the tile effect tough, try the scanlines.) BTW, i ve heard (didn t check yet) that if u change the texel alignement to the upper number, the tiles should be less noticeable... bye

July 9th, 2001	#4 (permalink)
RealityX I'm cool. Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arizona, USA. Posts: 113	I get all types of errors, including "illegal operation" errors with the OpenGL driver. __________________ Windows Vista SP1 C2D E6800 @ 3.6 Radeon 4870 X2 4GB DDR2 Last edited by RealityX; July 9th, 2001 at 02:33..

July 9th, 2001	#6 (permalink)
RealityX I'm cool. Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arizona, USA. Posts: 113	Which # is filtering with sprites? I dont see anything that says that. Is it 1 & 2? __________________ Windows Vista SP1 C2D E6800 @ 3.6 Radeon 4870 X2 4GB DDR2 Last edited by RealityX; July 9th, 2001 at 02:36..

July 9th, 2001	#7 (permalink)
Enigma1982 Do not Disturb Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bangkok,Thailand Posts: 1,808	No,Matrox card will work fine with PeteD3DX6 only If use with OpenGL or D3DX7 plugin graphic will have glitches

July 9th, 2001	#8 (permalink)
Rargh Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,238	oh sorry. I meant that was the second filtering option. Extended filtering bye

July 9th, 2001	#9 (permalink)
Enigma1982 Do not Disturb Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bangkok,Thailand Posts: 1,808	Try to follow my config It should give best2D/3D quality in same time

July 9th, 2001	#10 (permalink)
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 7,696	try to play the game at 640x480...... then set filtering to standard without spites or standard....... If you got 4xFSAA, use it and set filtering to standard wo/sprites..... WOW!!! I am a MAster OF Emus now!!! Woo hoo!! __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel Q6600@3.2 ghertz\|4x1gb DDR2 1066\|Asrock 1600sli 110db LGA 775\|EVGA 8800gtx@620/1450/975\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\|Seagate 7000.10 500gb HD\|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Antec TP 650 watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|20.1" 5ms LCD 1680x1050 Native\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/15" Sub\|Dual Boot Ubuntu 64bit/Vista 32bit\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition

July 9th, 2001	#11 (permalink)
RealityX I'm cool. Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arizona, USA. Posts: 113	Ok, I set it up like yours, and now the 2D stuff looks better, however, it still doesnt look as good as with Pete's Soft Driver, but this is playable enough for me. Thanx. BTW, do you know where I can get a good Freeware or Shareware BMP to JPG converter so I can post some pictures? __________________ Windows Vista SP1 C2D E6800 @ 3.6 Radeon 4870 X2 4GB DDR2

July 9th, 2001	#12 (permalink)
Rargh Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: France Posts: 1,238	try acdsee. it s very useful, simply to use and very fast too... (BTW it s a shareware: 30 days evaluation period) bye update: i forgot to post the link ^^ www.acdsee.com (easy but hey. ) Last edited by Rargh; July 9th, 2001 at 02:52..

July 9th, 2001	#13 (permalink)
Enigma1982 Do not Disturb Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bangkok,Thailand Posts: 1,808	Try HypersanpDX at http://www.hyperionics.com It very useful............. It is coverter and snaper in same program Try it

July 9th, 2001	#14 (permalink)
RealityX I'm cool. Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Arizona, USA. Posts: 113	Ok, I'll try both. Thanx to all who helped me and gave suggestions __________________ Windows Vista SP1 C2D E6800 @ 3.6 Radeon 4870 X2 4GB DDR2

July 9th, 2001	#15 (permalink)
Enigma1982 Do not Disturb Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bangkok,Thailand Posts: 1,808	One more thing you can check out my screenshot by Matrox G400 here it same config (Just not same version of plugin ) http://boards.psxemu.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=942

July 9th, 2001	#16 (permalink)
jas_kidd32 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 51	i have almost the same spec as u realityX (except i have a G400 not a G450) and i understand ur issue on graphics. my only concern is the black lines on the background and the speech boxes. is there any solution on the black line on the speech boxes?? Pete's soft GPU seems to fix this (scanlines turned on) but i don't want to use pete's soft driver GPU. btw openGL GPU's are the worse on my matrox G400. __________________ :wink: I'm the Great Saiyan Man :wink:

July 9th, 2001	#17 (permalink)
johnsonlam Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 71	Hello All, ePSXe was great since it introduce the plugin system, and thanks Pete for all the great plugins. The best quailty Soft plugin was Pete and Kazzuya's, D3D was Pete and Segu, others still need to work harder! And then I found that some screen glitches was caused by the emulator itself (e.g. Hokuto no Ken, that is Fist of the North Star), let's wait for the next release. __________________ Hong Kong - International Joke Center (after 1997-06-30)