PS2 Emulation Question

Frager · February 19th, 2002

Hi there I have some question About PS2 emulation

First is it Posible to emulate a PS2 ?

Second (if it is possible) is there anybody who's thinking of making one or have already begun to make one?

Thanks for your Information.

Sorry..... not the good forums..... Oups...

**Shiori** · February 19th, 2002

In response to your questions:

Maybe and no. Quite informative, eh?

Have a nice day.

e-ternity · February 19th, 2002

see this way too much......
wonder if we can put something saying info about this somewhere...

here's what i can say...
yea mayb we can emulate ps2
don't think they're making one... if they did, wouldn't they say something??

Sylvan Sorrow · February 19th, 2002

yes it IS possible to emulate the PS2, it is possible to emulate ANYTHING, just weather or not anyone can do it is another thing.

Arpanet · February 19th, 2002

Man... these kids at my school are so bloody convinced that they have working PS2 emulators on their hard drives... it's makin' me nuts! One of them said he was downloading a PS2 emu w/ GTA3. Guess what he got? Yeah, the GTA3 Beta for PC. Man.

<Id> · February 19th, 2002

Go to Pete's website and see what he has to say about this. Of course it is possible to emulate, just not with current computers though. The PS2 is way more powerfull. Think about what we need to emulate a PSX game properly. We need highend systems for that. Imagine what we will need for a PS2 emulator. Another thing is the fact that the system is soooooo complicated. THere would be tons of stuff to emulate.

M.I.K.e7 · February 19th, 2002

Can a PS2 be emulated?
Yes.

Is it possible that it will be emulated soon?
No.
Here are the reasons:

Speed:
Project64 recommends at least an 800MHz CPU now to emulate the rather slow N64.
In the PS2 the CPU alone is clocked more than 3 times faster than the N64 one, not to mention that it's multi-issue. But there are still the two vector processors and the graphics chip.
I'd assume that you need at least a 4GHz processor to even start of thinking to emulate the PS2 at a decent speed!

Complexity:
Saturn emulation is still in its early stages despite the Saturn being quite old. This is simply due to the complexity of the system, but the PS2 is much more complex than the Saturn!
So even if our machines are fast enough to emulate the PS2 theoretically it takes some time to conquer that beast.

Bugs:
According to PS2 programmers it machines is full of design and hardware bugs that even with the official documentation almost nobody knows the thing inside out.
All these bugs have to be found and replicated be the emulation programmer, and that will take a lot of time. If this process it skipped it's very likely that most games won't run correctly.

Resume:
We probably have fast enough computers in 1 or 2 years but it'll take at least another 2 or 3 years until the first PS2 emulators (ie. those that really emulate games) will turn up.
Until then Sony probably will have released the PS3 and we'll have to answer the same question again for that machine...

I guess writing this is a waste of time anyway, since the same question will come up next week anyway...

tekwiz99 · February 19th, 2002

to make authors life easy-er, why don't we set a ps2 emulation standard platform besed on linux technology.
sure, those peeps who design emulator have to learn another language for building linux (maybe not

). but it virtually elimates the system bog caused by Windows (those M$ worm who is doing nothing but consume junk food all day should be damn'ed).

those were my humble opinions

zero0w · February 19th, 2002

PS2 emulators? I heard the BIOS dump is 4MByte file so there are a lot instructions to work on......man....

Emulation of next gen console won't be easier anytime soon.

<Id> · February 19th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by M.I.K.e7
I guess writing this is a waste of time anyway, since the same question will come up next week anyway...

Maybe you should save it in a notepad file. So you can just copy-paste next time

**Ryos** · February 19th, 2002

Argh, not another of these threads. If you want a fscking PS2 so bad, get a PS2. There will NOT be a perfect emulator for what will likely be quite a while. As noted in http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...threadid=10600, I'm going to lock this thread for wasting our time on this pointless discussion for the umpteenth time.

February 19th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Frager Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 17	PS2 Emulation Question Hi there I have some question About PS2 emulation First is it Posible to emulate a PS2 ? Second (if it is possible) is there anybody who's thinking of making one or have already begun to make one? Thanks for your Information. Sorry..... not the good forums..... Oups... Last edited by Frager; February 19th, 2002 at 05:19.

February 19th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	In response to your questions: Maybe and no. Quite informative, eh? Have a nice day. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

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e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	see this way too much...... wonder if we can put something saying info about this somewhere... here's what i can say... yea mayb we can emulate ps2 don't think they're making one... if they did, wouldn't they say something?? __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY Last edited by iEvolutions; February 19th, 2002 at 05:49.

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Sylvan Sorrow The weeping forest Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: not sure, lost Posts: 1,083	yes it IS possible to emulate the PS2, it is possible to emulate ANYTHING, just weather or not anyone can do it is another thing. __________________ "Death isn't the handicap it used to be" -Lister, "Red Dwarf" "I can live through anything, even death, but Ill never get out of life alive." Thanks to Philia for her really talented drawing of Cecil (past avatar), vister her art thread Here Check out www.slightlydark.com good non-liscenced game music. formerly known as Ryoga.

February 19th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
<Id> Grahf's Second Advent Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Your Mind Posts: 401	Go to Pete's website and see what he has to say about this. Of course it is possible to emulate, just not with current computers though. The PS2 is way more powerfull. Think about what we need to emulate a PSX game properly. We need highend systems for that. Imagine what we will need for a PS2 emulator. Another thing is the fact that the system is soooooo complicated. THere would be tons of stuff to emulate. __________________ Id:"That was pretty interesting. But dropping a warship on me is cheating... take it back!" (Xenogears)

February 19th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Arpanet Powerslave Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The eyes of the night Posts: 1,812	Man... these kids at my school are so bloody convinced that they have working PS2 emulators on their hard drives... it's makin' me nuts! One of them said he was downloading a PS2 emu w/ GTA3. Guess what he got? Yeah, the GTA3 Beta for PC. Man.

February 19th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
M.I.K.e7 King of Pain Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 482	Can a PS2 be emulated? Yes. Is it possible that it will be emulated soon? No. Here are the reasons: Speed: Project64 recommends at least an 800MHz CPU now to emulate the rather slow N64. In the PS2 the CPU alone is clocked more than 3 times faster than the N64 one, not to mention that it's multi-issue. But there are still the two vector processors and the graphics chip. I'd assume that you need at least a 4GHz processor to even start of thinking to emulate the PS2 at a decent speed! Complexity: Saturn emulation is still in its early stages despite the Saturn being quite old. This is simply due to the complexity of the system, but the PS2 is much more complex than the Saturn! So even if our machines are fast enough to emulate the PS2 theoretically it takes some time to conquer that beast. Bugs: According to PS2 programmers it machines is full of design and hardware bugs that even with the official documentation almost nobody knows the thing inside out. All these bugs have to be found and replicated be the emulation programmer, and that will take a lot of time. If this process it skipped it's very likely that most games won't run correctly. Resume: We probably have fast enough computers in 1 or 2 years but it'll take at least another 2 or 3 years until the first PS2 emulators (ie. those that really emulate games) will turn up. Until then Sony probably will have released the PS3 and we'll have to answer the same question again for that machine... I guess writing this is a waste of time anyway, since the same question will come up next week anyway... __________________ The crownless again shall be King

February 19th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
tekwiz99 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: CPU Slot A Posts: 52	PS2 emulator to make authors life easy-er, why don't we set a ps2 emulation standard platform besed on linux technology. sure, those peeps who design emulator have to learn another language for building linux (maybe not ). but it virtually elimates the system bog caused by Windows (those M$ worm who is doing nothing but consume junk food all day should be damn'ed). those were my humble opinions

February 19th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
zero0w Maverick Hunter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hunter HQ Posts: 506	PS2 emulators? I heard the BIOS dump is 4MByte file so there are a lot instructions to work on......man.... Emulation of next gen console won't be easier anytime soon. __________________ Linux and 2003: Time to re-organize << Linux on Desktop >> Mirror page 21

February 19th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	Argh, not another of these threads. If you want a fscking PS2 so bad, get a PS2. There will NOT be a perfect emulator for what will likely be quite a while. As noted in http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...threadid=10600, I'm going to lock this thread for wasting our time on this pointless discussion for the umpteenth time. __________________ Sanity is overrated. Last edited by Ryos; February 19th, 2002 at 13:56.

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