tales of destiny 2 in chambard...

hesho89 · February 17th, 2002

curious,

can anyone actually continue playing past here?? teh game runs PERFECT (well.. besides teh battle backgrounds going nuts sometimes) but.. as soon as i enter chambard.. all hell breaks lose.

first off.. i c these black lines (i'm assuming heat waves) accross teh screen over and over again..

i couldn't figure out how to get rid of them.. so i used pete's soft plugin.. and it worked... but then.. another problem popped up... when i enter in a battle.. the fps drops to about.. oh.. 3....

anyone have any suggestions at all????

H

PS configs: duron 800, 512 ram, v3 2000 pci (i know.. i know..)

plugins pete's d3d, petes soft.... lewpy's justs makes my whole system bog down.. so i don't use that..

**Ryos** · February 17th, 2002

> first off.. i c these black lines (i'm assuming heat waves) accross teh screen over and over again..

I'm not sure if you need the first step or not (probably don't, but I can't remember), but turn on Full VRam primitives and the special fix Framebuffer read on move.

> besides teh battle backgrounds going nuts sometimes

Are you using 1.58? I thought that was fixed in that version...

hesho89 · February 17th, 2002

hmm...

well.. it worked..... my fps dropped to hell though...

(in the city.. about 13 fps.. battle is 4fps..) it did fix my background problem in battles at least.. but... kind annoying spending 3 minutes to do 1 fight..

i wonder if overclocking my v3 would help any????

H

**Kellicros** · February 17th, 2002

well, you'll have no problem with peops plugin.

**Ryos** · February 17th, 2002

Or go download an older version of Pete's plugins. There were no problems with battles in ToD 2 in 1.56 (I think that's the one I used...maybe 1.55).

hesho89 · February 17th, 2002

WOOO!!!

that peos plugin did it... i still get some bad slow down in battle though when pretty much any type of spell/skill is cast... but that's liveable..

thanx all.

H

hesho89 · February 17th, 2002

oh..

don't suppose someone can tell me what the hell the job titles r for huh??

i have no friggen idea what teh heck they r for!!!

H

**Ryos** · February 17th, 2002

They're just there for fun. Choose whatever one you like the most.

Telv · February 17th, 2002

That area of ToD2 is best played with the software plugin, which should fix the speed issue. Most of the game is 2D anyway.

cloudrain1 · February 17th, 2002

Did u guys watching a different between that CITY and other city??
That VERY HOT CITY is full of "moving layers". (base on the story about that air is very hot).
Then watching about SWIRL effect when we enter a battle...
On my computer.. when i use PETE OPENGL, is BUG (with ver. 1.55,1.56,1.57) but it good (maybe) with PEOPS.
So when i use opengl, entering that HOT City makes my computer drop to 1-2 FPS!!!
But it Fine with PEOPS but i have to SHUTOFF the sound because i only get 30-40 FPS with sound compare to 40-60 FPS without sound..

I think... maybe that is a BUG on pete's plugins.. or maybe OPENGL instruction cannot handle such SWIRL effect or MOVING LAYER??

I have an idea... can we make an intelegent plugins that can detect when the plugins become to SOFTWARE plugins.. even they are HARDWARE plugins (opengl or D3D instruction).. maybe that will solve a problem

Ex: plugins detect SWIRL effect.. will turn (using) SOFTWARE rendering, others using OPENGL instruction??
Sorry for my bad english.. hope u all understand what i mean..

Sorry for my stupid programming.. because i'm not a programming..

Badaro · February 17th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by cloudrain1

I think... maybe that is a BUG on pete's plugins.. or maybe OPENGL instruction cannot handle such SWIRL effect or MOVING LAYER??

I have an idea... can we make an intelegent plugins that can detect when the plugins become to SOFTWARE plugins.. even they are HARDWARE plugins (opengl or D3D instruction).. maybe that will solve a problem
Ex: plugins detect SWIRL effect.. will turn (using) SOFTWARE rendering, others using OPENGL instruction??
Sorry for my bad english.. hope u all understand what i mean..

It's not a bug... Pete mentioned a couple of times before that these "blur" effects require reading the framebuffer, and all techniques to do it on a hardware plugin are bad.

[]s Badaro

jyang_99 · February 17th, 2002

Use pete's soft driver 1.56 (haven't d/l 1.58 yet...), it works perfectly fine, no black lines during the hot desert scene what so ever... good luck

cloudrain1 · February 17th, 2002

What??? petesoft 1.56?? from my bad knowledge, petesoft stop to 1.54 and then open source become to PEOPS ver 1.54 is the newest... ???

Andronicus · February 18th, 2002

He must be dreaming

jyang_99 · February 18th, 2002

Sorry, i apologize for the misleading of the version of pete's soft driver... yeah, it's ver. 1.54 and it works for those hot wavy effects, thanks for correction

February 17th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
hesho89 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 23	tales of destiny 2 in chambard... curious, can anyone actually continue playing past here?? teh game runs PERFECT (well.. besides teh battle backgrounds going nuts sometimes) but.. as soon as i enter chambard.. all hell breaks lose. first off.. i c these black lines (i'm assuming heat waves) accross teh screen over and over again.. i couldn't figure out how to get rid of them.. so i used pete's soft plugin.. and it worked... but then.. another problem popped up... when i enter in a battle.. the fps drops to about.. oh.. 3.... anyone have any suggestions at all???? H PS configs: duron 800, 512 ram, v3 2000 pci (i know.. i know..) plugins pete's d3d, petes soft.... lewpy's justs makes my whole system bog down.. so i don't use that..

February 17th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	> first off.. i c these black lines (i'm assuming heat waves) accross teh screen over and over again.. I'm not sure if you need the first step or not (probably don't, but I can't remember), but turn on Full VRam primitives and the special fix Framebuffer read on move. > besides teh battle backgrounds going nuts sometimes Are you using 1.58? I thought that was fixed in that version... __________________ Sanity is overrated. Last edited by Ryos; February 17th, 2002 at 04:02.

February 17th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
Kellicros Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Posts: 7,684	well, you'll have no problem with peops plugin. __________________ Kellicros' DeviantArt

February 17th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	Or go download an older version of Pete's plugins. There were no problems with battles in ToD 2 in 1.56 (I think that's the one I used...maybe 1.55). __________________ Sanity is overrated.

February 17th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	They're just there for fun. Choose whatever one you like the most. __________________ Sanity is overrated.

February 17th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
hesho89 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 23	hmm... well.. it worked..... my fps dropped to hell though... (in the city.. about 13 fps.. battle is 4fps..) it did fix my background problem in battles at least.. but... kind annoying spending 3 minutes to do 1 fight.. i wonder if overclocking my v3 would help any???? H

February 17th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
hesho89 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 23	WOOO!!! that peos plugin did it... i still get some bad slow down in battle though when pretty much any type of spell/skill is cast... but that's liveable.. thanx all. H

February 17th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
hesho89 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 23	oh.. don't suppose someone can tell me what the hell the job titles r for huh?? i have no friggen idea what teh heck they r for!!! H

February 17th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
Telv Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 5	That area of ToD2 is best played with the software plugin, which should fix the speed issue. Most of the game is 2D anyway.

February 17th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
cloudrain1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 53	Did u guys watching a different between that CITY and other city?? That VERY HOT CITY is full of "moving layers". (base on the story about that air is very hot). Then watching about SWIRL effect when we enter a battle... On my computer.. when i use PETE OPENGL, is BUG (with ver. 1.55,1.56,1.57) but it good (maybe) with PEOPS. So when i use opengl, entering that HOT City makes my computer drop to 1-2 FPS!!! But it Fine with PEOPS but i have to SHUTOFF the sound because i only get 30-40 FPS with sound compare to 40-60 FPS without sound.. I think... maybe that is a BUG on pete's plugins.. or maybe OPENGL instruction cannot handle such SWIRL effect or MOVING LAYER?? I have an idea... can we make an intelegent plugins that can detect when the plugins become to SOFTWARE plugins.. even they are HARDWARE plugins (opengl or D3D instruction).. maybe that will solve a problem Ex: plugins detect SWIRL effect.. will turn (using) SOFTWARE rendering, others using OPENGL instruction?? Sorry for my bad english.. hope u all understand what i mean.. Sorry for my stupid programming.. because i'm not a programming.. __________________ ------------------------------------------ Celeron 433, Via 933, memory 192Mb, VGA : Powercolor Geforce2 MX200 64MB, Win98SE -------------------------------------------

February 17th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
jyang_99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 62	Use pete's soft driver 1.56 (haven't d/l 1.58 yet...), it works perfectly fine, no black lines during the hot desert scene what so ever... good luck

February 17th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
cloudrain1 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 53	What??? petesoft 1.56?? from my bad knowledge, petesoft stop to 1.54 and then open source become to PEOPS ver 1.54 is the newest... ??? __________________ ------------------------------------------ Celeron 433, Via 933, memory 192Mb, VGA : Powercolor Geforce2 MX200 64MB, Win98SE -------------------------------------------

February 18th, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Andronicus ƒeƒC[ƒ_ Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Somewhere around the Earth Posts: 846	He must be dreaming

February 18th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
jyang_99 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 62	Sorry, i apologize for the misleading of the version of pete's soft driver... yeah, it's ver. 1.54 and it works for those hot wavy effects, thanks for correction

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