Catalyst 4.12 beta offically posted

Guyver2K6 · November 12th, 2004

If Catalyst 4.11 wasnt enough for you, Terry Makedon has just posted in our forums that ATI have offically released 4.12 beta driver. In his own words .... " if you are planning on playing a hot new game in the next few days, I really recommend you use these drivers. Of course they only work on ATI cards..." , gee I wonder does he mean Half Life 2 ?

Games hang using PunkBuster Online Gaming Servers
The information in this article applies to the following configurations:

* RADEON 9500 or Higher
* PunkBuster Online Gaming Servers
* Windows XP

Random hanging has been observed with certain games on certain systems when using the PunkBuster server.

To resolve this issue, please download CATALYST 4.12 Beta Release which resolves the majority of cases of this hang.

This is posted on ATI's site here and you can discuss in Terrys thread on the forums over here

****info from driverheaven.net****
http://www.driverheaven.net/#news61061

**Razor Blade** · November 12th, 2004

I think I'm gonna try these out and skip the 4.11's

Just one things though. Since they are official ATi, should I scrap my 4.10's or just install these over them like a regular release?

Guyver2K6 · November 12th, 2004

i would uninstall the old drivers then install the 4.12's

**Razor Blade** · November 12th, 2004

Okay just wondering. Thanks for the news Guyver

Guyver2K6 · November 12th, 2004

have u tried them out yet? how are they?

**Shadow Lady** · November 13th, 2004

nice, have u tried? did u see the post on driverheaven? there is many people complimenting them, performance increase on HL2 CS:S and even 3dmark05 so this would be performance enhance on some dx9 games also, im gonna wait till omega's 4.12beta are out, shouldnt take long, but people who wanna try it, there is a little rule trying betas, first try it, if it gives u any problem report to ATI and return to ur last set (or whatever set u want by that matter). Please if it gives u any problem report back to ATI, thats what betas are out for

**Razor Blade** · November 13th, 2004

Sorry I havn't tried yet. I wanna set up my computer with a few benchmarks before I test these so I can compare properly

(fresh installation) So I gotta install some stuff

**Shadow Lady** · November 13th, 2004

i hope u talking about game benchmarks

**Razor Blade** · November 13th, 2004

Of course

I just finished installing some games so I'll run some game tests so I can compare the fps. I'll also try to see if there is any quality differences.

Metalmurphy · November 14th, 2004

HL2 Stress Test

Settings:
1600*1200*32
Everything set to Max
6x FSAA
16x AF
Vsync off

Tweaked 4.11

Just installed (meaning not tweaked

) 4.12

Didnt notice any quality diferences. Gonna try again tomorow after i tweaked everything. I'll probably gain more 10fps or something

**Razor Blade** · November 14th, 2004

Well I have yet to benchmark with the 4.12's but I have been playing NFSU2 and I am definately seeing some fps improvement.

Metalmurphy · November 15th, 2004

After some tweaks ^^

12 fps increase. Not bad, not bad at all, and no longer my fps go to 1 when the bomb explodes in CS:S

**Typhoon 01** · November 15th, 2004

Could you post these tweaks???

Metalmurphy · November 15th, 2004

Sure

Hum, disable the secondary diplay, disable VPU Recovery, disable Smart Gart, Fast Write off, disable Alternate DVI operation mode. and finaly i used TuneXP to tweak XP best way possible.

Btw u might get some corruption with these tweaks in other games (aka Doom 3 nasty white spots

)

**Typhoon 01** · November 15th, 2004

OK tnx i will try that as soon as i get home.

**Shadow Lady** · November 15th, 2004

how can u disable SmartGart? (i hope u are not talking about the "ATI Smart" service)

also i dont see a way how those settings are supposed to do glitches on games :O i use those settings (except the smartgart disabled) everytime, and do never see any of those glitches

anyway nice speedup, can u try any other game than HL2? i know it is supposed to increase speed only on this game buit should be nice to see improvements somewhere else, i would do the tests myself, but my card is almost dead

**Shadow Lady** · November 15th, 2004

for people wanting to try this set on win2k, there is a fix for it at http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33791032

enjoy

Metalmurphy · November 15th, 2004

Its exactly the smartgart that makes those nasty white dots in Doom 3

And you can disable it in bios. Not much performance increase (around 2 fps or something) but, every little thing counts for me.

oh and i would have tested it with other games but i dont feel like instaling old drivers again :/ maybe after im tired of HL2 ^^

D.D. · November 15th, 2004

no little white dots here man. smartgart shud be fine! hows the airflow in ur comp?

Metalmurphy · November 15th, 2004

its an 9800 problem. In 3drage some other ppl had the same problems. some fixed it by underclocking 20mhz i fixed it by turning smart gart on

http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56166

November 12th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
Guyver2K6 Graphic Designer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 857	Catalyst 4.12 beta offically posted If Catalyst 4.11 wasnt enough for you, Terry Makedon has just posted in our forums that ATI have offically released 4.12 beta driver. In his own words .... " if you are planning on playing a hot new game in the next few days, I really recommend you use these drivers. Of course they only work on ATI cards..." , gee I wonder does he mean Half Life 2 ? Games hang using PunkBuster Online Gaming Servers The information in this article applies to the following configurations: * RADEON 9500 or Higher * PunkBuster Online Gaming Servers * Windows XP Random hanging has been observed with certain games on certain systems when using the PunkBuster server. To resolve this issue, please download CATALYST 4.12 Beta Release which resolves the majority of cases of this hang. This is posted on ATI's site here and you can discuss in Terrys thread on the forums over here **info from driverheaven.net** http://www.driverheaven.net/#news61061 __________________ •••Mary Jane is the only thing that makes the pain stop••• 360GamerTag - SteFanO420

November 12th, 2004	#2 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,030	I think I'm gonna try these out and skip the 4.11's Just one things though. Since they are official ATi, should I scrap my 4.10's or just install these over them like a regular release? __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

November 12th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
Guyver2K6 Graphic Designer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 857	i would uninstall the old drivers then install the 4.12's __________________ •••Mary Jane is the only thing that makes the pain stop••• 360GamerTag - SteFanO420

November 12th, 2004	#4 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,030	Okay just wondering. Thanks for the news Guyver __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

November 12th, 2004	#5 (permalink)
Guyver2K6 Graphic Designer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 857	have u tried them out yet? how are they? __________________ •••Mary Jane is the only thing that makes the pain stop••• 360GamerTag - SteFanO420

November 13th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
Shadow Lady Advanced Newbie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bogotá... not that it matters... Posts: 4,890	nice, have u tried? did u see the post on driverheaven? there is many people complimenting them, performance increase on HL2 CS:S and even 3dmark05 so this would be performance enhance on some dx9 games also, im gonna wait till omega's 4.12beta are out, shouldnt take long, but people who wanna try it, there is a little rule trying betas, first try it, if it gives u any problem report to ATI and return to ur last set (or whatever set u want by that matter). Please if it gives u any problem report back to ATI, thats what betas are out for __________________ Main Rig: Pentium Dual-Core E2160 @ 2.5GHz -- 7600GT @ 650/800MHz -- 2GB DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 -- Windows XP Pro SP3 Collecting dust: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ -- ATI Radeon 9500 Pro -- SB Live 5.1 Digital -- 2.5GB DDR 2-2-2-5 Ram -- Windows 2003 server r2 SP1

November 13th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,030	Sorry I havn't tried yet. I wanna set up my computer with a few benchmarks before I test these so I can compare properly (fresh installation) So I gotta install some stuff __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

November 13th, 2004	#8 (permalink)
Shadow Lady Advanced Newbie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bogotá... not that it matters... Posts: 4,890	i hope u talking about game benchmarks __________________ Main Rig: Pentium Dual-Core E2160 @ 2.5GHz -- 7600GT @ 650/800MHz -- 2GB DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 -- Windows XP Pro SP3 Collecting dust: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ -- ATI Radeon 9500 Pro -- SB Live 5.1 Digital -- 2.5GB DDR 2-2-2-5 Ram -- Windows 2003 server r2 SP1

November 13th, 2004	#9 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,030	Of course I just finished installing some games so I'll run some game tests so I can compare the fps. I'll also try to see if there is any quality differences. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

November 14th, 2004	#10 (permalink)
Metalmurphy Ataru Moroboshi Fan =) Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Portugal, Oporto Posts: 5,759	HL2 Stress Test Settings: 1600120032 Everything set to Max 6x FSAA 16x AF Vsync off Tweaked 4.11 Just installed (meaning not tweaked ) 4.12 Didnt notice any quality diferences. Gonna try again tomorow after i tweaked everything. I'll probably gain more 10fps or something __________________ -------------------------------- Computer Specs ---------------------------------- Intel Pentium IV Prescott 3.0 HT → 4x 512MB DDR-DIMM → ASUS GF 6800 GT Sound Blaster X-Fi → 2x Maxtor 80 GB (RAID 0) Hitachi 19'' Monitor → Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Theater --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

November 14th, 2004	#11 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,030	Well I have yet to benchmark with the 4.12's but I have been playing NFSU2 and I am definately seeing some fps improvement. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

November 15th, 2004	#12 (permalink)
Metalmurphy Ataru Moroboshi Fan =) Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Portugal, Oporto Posts: 5,759	After some tweaks ^^ 12 fps increase. Not bad, not bad at all, and no longer my fps go to 1 when the bomb explodes in CS:S __________________ -------------------------------- Computer Specs ---------------------------------- Intel Pentium IV Prescott 3.0 HT → 4x 512MB DDR-DIMM → ASUS GF 6800 GT Sound Blaster X-Fi → 2x Maxtor 80 GB (RAID 0) Hitachi 19'' Monitor → Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Theater --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

November 15th, 2004	#13 (permalink)
Typhoon 01 No People, No Problems Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Angola - Luanda Posts: 535	Could you post these tweaks??? __________________ ----------------------------------------------------------- Compaq Evo D310v ~ Intel Pentium 4 2.66 GHz ~ 1024 Mb DDR266 e-VGA e-GeForce 6800GS 256 Mb @ 401/1105 ~ BenQ FP 731 17´ LCD Lite-On CD-RW 48x24x48x ~ BenQ DW 1620 HD1 40GB ~ HD2 160GB ----------------------------------------------------------- It's My Life

November 15th, 2004	#14 (permalink)
Metalmurphy Ataru Moroboshi Fan =) Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Portugal, Oporto Posts: 5,759	Sure Hum, disable the secondary diplay, disable VPU Recovery, disable Smart Gart, Fast Write off, disable Alternate DVI operation mode. and finaly i used TuneXP to tweak XP best way possible. Btw u might get some corruption with these tweaks in other games (aka Doom 3 nasty white spots ) __________________ -------------------------------- Computer Specs ---------------------------------- Intel Pentium IV Prescott 3.0 HT → 4x 512MB DDR-DIMM → ASUS GF 6800 GT Sound Blaster X-Fi → 2x Maxtor 80 GB (RAID 0) Hitachi 19'' Monitor → Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Theater --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

November 15th, 2004	#15 (permalink)
Typhoon 01 No People, No Problems Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Angola - Luanda Posts: 535	OK tnx i will try that as soon as i get home. __________________ ----------------------------------------------------------- Compaq Evo D310v ~ Intel Pentium 4 2.66 GHz ~ 1024 Mb DDR266 e-VGA e-GeForce 6800GS 256 Mb @ 401/1105 ~ BenQ FP 731 17´ LCD Lite-On CD-RW 48x24x48x ~ BenQ DW 1620 HD1 40GB ~ HD2 160GB ----------------------------------------------------------- It's My Life

November 15th, 2004	#19 (permalink)
D.D. band Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HERE Posts: 4,574	no little white dots here man. smartgart shud be fine! hows the airflow in ur comp? __________________ 1. Small, Cheap, Powerful - you can have only two 2. Everytime you engineer something foolproof, the world comes up with a better idiot. 3. 「学問とは虚栄である。」 The PS3 Cell Processor Explained Page, IBM Research's Introduction to Cell Multiprocessor and Cell Processor Programming Guide

November 15th, 2004	#16 (permalink)
Shadow Lady Advanced Newbie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bogotá... not that it matters... Posts: 4,890	how can u disable SmartGart? (i hope u are not talking about the "ATI Smart" service) also i dont see a way how those settings are supposed to do glitches on games :O i use those settings (except the smartgart disabled) everytime, and do never see any of those glitches anyway nice speedup, can u try any other game than HL2? i know it is supposed to increase speed only on this game buit should be nice to see improvements somewhere else, i would do the tests myself, but my card is almost dead __________________ Main Rig: Pentium Dual-Core E2160 @ 2.5GHz -- 7600GT @ 650/800MHz -- 2GB DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 -- Windows XP Pro SP3 Collecting dust: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ -- ATI Radeon 9500 Pro -- SB Live 5.1 Digital -- 2.5GB DDR 2-2-2-5 Ram -- Windows 2003 server r2 SP1

November 15th, 2004	#17 (permalink)
Shadow Lady Advanced Newbie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bogotá... not that it matters... Posts: 4,890	for people wanting to try this set on win2k, there is a fix for it at http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33791032 enjoy __________________ Main Rig: Pentium Dual-Core E2160 @ 2.5GHz -- 7600GT @ 650/800MHz -- 2GB DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 -- Windows XP Pro SP3 Collecting dust: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ -- ATI Radeon 9500 Pro -- SB Live 5.1 Digital -- 2.5GB DDR 2-2-2-5 Ram -- Windows 2003 server r2 SP1

November 15th, 2004	#18 (permalink)
Metalmurphy Ataru Moroboshi Fan =) Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Portugal, Oporto Posts: 5,759	Its exactly the smartgart that makes those nasty white dots in Doom 3 And you can disable it in bios. Not much performance increase (around 2 fps or something) but, every little thing counts for me. oh and i would have tested it with other games but i dont feel like instaling old drivers again :/ maybe after im tired of HL2 ^^ __________________ -------------------------------- Computer Specs ---------------------------------- Intel Pentium IV Prescott 3.0 HT → 4x 512MB DDR-DIMM → ASUS GF 6800 GT Sound Blaster X-Fi → 2x Maxtor 80 GB (RAID 0) Hitachi 19'' Monitor → Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Theater --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

November 15th, 2004	#20 (permalink)
Metalmurphy Ataru Moroboshi Fan =) Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Portugal, Oporto Posts: 5,759	its an 9800 problem. In 3drage some other ppl had the same problems. some fixed it by underclocking 20mhz i fixed it by turning smart gart on http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?t=56166 __________________ -------------------------------- Computer Specs ---------------------------------- Intel Pentium IV Prescott 3.0 HT → 4x 512MB DDR-DIMM → ASUS GF 6800 GT Sound Blaster X-Fi → 2x Maxtor 80 GB (RAID 0) Hitachi 19'' Monitor → Cambridge Soundworks Desktop Theater --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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