NVIDIA unveils the GeForce PCX!

**Katsuya** · February 21st, 2004

Well, I Don't know if this series will be worth it (I'd wait for second generation PCX GPUs) anyway check it out.

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NVIDIA unveils the GeForce PCX family of graphics processing units (GPUs): the industry's first top-to-bottom family of PCI Express GPUs.

The GeForce PCX GPUs will deliver better graphics and more vibrant digital media to PC consumers through the additional bandwidth and features offered by Intel's new PCI Express bus architecture. Since the GPU has the largest bandwidth demand of all the PC subsystems, NVIDIA has been a key contributor to the joint definition, development, and deployment of PCI Express solutions.

NVIDIA PCI EXPRESS GPUs:

ENTHUSIAST
NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5950 GPUs: deliver extreme graphics power and performance for extreme gamers.

PERFORMANCE
NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5750 GPUs: designed for high-performance gaming with NVIDIA?s full suite of cinematic effects and an unmatched feature set.

MAINSTREAM
NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5300 GPUs: deliver state-of-the-art, best-in-class features and the reliability users have come to expect from NVIDIA, at an affordable price.

VALUE
NVIDIA GeForce PCX 4300 GPUs: provide entry-level pricing coupled with strong performance and unbeatable visual quality
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**hushypushy** · February 21st, 2004

meh, i read about this like last week. it's pretty lame...kinda like putting the Voodoo cards into AGP..extra speed but no need for it

**n_w95482** · February 21st, 2004

Well this had to happen sometime, might as well have been now being that we're between graphics card generations (something to keep money rolling in).

**hushypushy** · February 21st, 2004

i guess, a new gimmick, just like the 9800XT and 5950....

Clements · February 21st, 2004

These GPUs will unlikely provide any significant speed increase, these seem to be just refresh products mostly. I think we'll have to wait for a while for a card to fully utilise PCI Express.

stilz · February 21st, 2004

[off-topic] hah.. Clements, what does it say under your name? [/off-topic]

**Kane** · February 21st, 2004

*cough* drink my piss.....

RPGWizard · February 21st, 2004

All this looks like to me is just a redirection in how the GPU throughputs data, which won't increase processing speeds, yet will most likely improve data throughput.....maybe dramatically.....but then again, maybe not.....I'll wait until they actually DO something with this line to buy one.....I already spent $230 on my FX 5600.....

**hushypushy** · February 22nd, 2004

230 on a FX5600? im sorry to hear that

of course, mine was probably almost that much, so what the hell am i saying. i got my FX5600 the day before the 5900 ultra came out. i remember i got my comp, and went to Fry's the next day, and there was a huge display thingy for the launch of the 5900u.

RPGWizard · February 22nd, 2004

Well, if I'd waited another month, I would've been able to get a 5600u for about 190-200.....oh well.

**Katsuya** · February 22nd, 2004

They still haven't maxed-out AGP 8x even! Why the hell do they need PCI-Express?

(It's at least 2 or 3 generations of GPU away before anything close to that bandwidth is needed.)

chp · February 22nd, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katsuya

They still haven't maxed-out AGP 8x even! Why the hell do they need PCI-Express?

(It's at least 2 or 3 generations of GPU away before anything close to that bandwidth is needed.)

Companies need money and they created a new standard just to make you change all your PC. Soon you'll have to change your HDs from PATA to SATA too

Noxious Ninja · February 22nd, 2004

Well, PCI-Express and Serial ATA have much more long-term potential - there are many other things to it besides speed.

And hey, at least ATi announced new gfx cores for their PCI Express line. :-)

**Kane** · February 22nd, 2004

The problem with AGP is that it eats resourses to use it and it's only half-duplex. I'd assume with more bandwidth avaliable and less system load, it'd be viable to do more switching frommain memory.

**Demigod** · February 22nd, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Katsuya

They still haven't maxed-out AGP 8x even! Why the hell do they need PCI-Express?

(It's at least 2 or 3 generations of GPU away before anything close to that bandwidth is needed.)

First of all, you should always introduce new technology well before the old one is maxed out. It takes time to develop new technology and for hardware manufacturers and the public to adopt it. We need PCI-Express now so people won't be reliant on AGP technology in the future.

Secondly, AGP is complex, parallel, and half-duplex. PCI Express is relatively simple, serial, and full-duplex. There's a lot more benefit than just more bandwidth. It'll be easier and cheaper for board manufacturers to implement and will allow future-proofing for many years to come.

D.D. · February 22nd, 2004

hehehe....forgive me, but IMHO i dun fink "future-proof" is a term that applies to technology

Gamer1 · February 22nd, 2004

hmmm, i wonder, when they start rolling the pcx boards, and what if there still isn't any pcx videocards... my voodoo3 pci will live to see another day!!!

**Demigod** · February 23rd, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by D.D.

hehehe....forgive me, but IMHO i dun fink "future-proof" is a term that applies to technology

It might this time. By the time PCI Express gets outdated you'd be many years overdue for an upgrade. Afterall, the PCI bus has lasted 30 years and has not changed much since its inception. With PCI Express and Serial ATA 2.0 you'd be set for many years to come.

February 21st, 2004	#1 (permalink)
Katsuya - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: - Posts: 1,936	NVIDIA unveils the GeForce PCX! Well, I Don't know if this series will be worth it (I'd wait for second generation PCX GPUs) anyway check it out. -data- NVIDIA unveils the GeForce PCX family of graphics processing units (GPUs): the industry's first top-to-bottom family of PCI Express GPUs. The GeForce PCX GPUs will deliver better graphics and more vibrant digital media to PC consumers through the additional bandwidth and features offered by Intel's new PCI Express bus architecture. Since the GPU has the largest bandwidth demand of all the PC subsystems, NVIDIA has been a key contributor to the joint definition, development, and deployment of PCI Express solutions. NVIDIA PCI EXPRESS GPUs: ENTHUSIAST NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5950 GPUs: deliver extreme graphics power and performance for extreme gamers. PERFORMANCE NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5750 GPUs: designed for high-performance gaming with NVIDIA?s full suite of cinematic effects and an unmatched feature set. MAINSTREAM NVIDIA GeForce PCX 5300 GPUs: deliver state-of-the-art, best-in-class features and the reliability users have come to expect from NVIDIA, at an affordable price. VALUE NVIDIA GeForce PCX 4300 GPUs: provide entry-level pricing coupled with strong performance and unbeatable visual quality -data-

February 21st, 2004	#2 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	meh, i read about this like last week. it's pretty lame...kinda like putting the Voodoo cards into AGP..extra speed but no need for it __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

February 21st, 2004	#3 (permalink)
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February 21st, 2004	#4 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	i guess, a new gimmick, just like the 9800XT and 5950.... __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

February 21st, 2004	#5 (permalink)
Clements MMP-2 Dude Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 1,633	These GPUs will unlikely provide any significant speed increase, these seem to be just refresh products mostly. I think we'll have to wait for a while for a card to fully utilise PCI Express. __________________ PJ64 Homepage \| ZSNES Documentation Project \| bsnes Supporter

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February 21st, 2004	#8 (permalink)
RPGWizard Dreaded Similitude Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: -----> Over there Posts: 989	All this looks like to me is just a redirection in how the GPU throughputs data, which won't increase processing speeds, yet will most likely improve data throughput.....maybe dramatically.....but then again, maybe not.....I'll wait until they actually DO something with this line to buy one.....I already spent $230 on my FX 5600..... __________________ [size=-2][center] [url=http://blog.efx2.com/index.php?uid=1204]sig too big, please refer to the new sig regulations

February 22nd, 2004	#9 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	230 on a FX5600? im sorry to hear that of course, mine was probably almost that much, so what the hell am i saying. i got my FX5600 the day before the 5900 ultra came out. i remember i got my comp, and went to Fry's the next day, and there was a huge display thingy for the launch of the 5900u. __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

February 22nd, 2004	#10 (permalink)
RPGWizard Dreaded Similitude Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: -----> Over there Posts: 989	Well, if I'd waited another month, I would've been able to get a 5600u for about 190-200.....oh well. __________________ [size=-2][center] [url=http://blog.efx2.com/index.php?uid=1204]sig too big, please refer to the new sig regulations

February 22nd, 2004	#11 (permalink)
Katsuya - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: - Posts: 1,936	They still haven't maxed-out AGP 8x even! Why the hell do they need PCI-Express? (It's at least 2 or 3 generations of GPU away before anything close to that bandwidth is needed.)

February 22nd, 2004	#13 (permalink)
Noxious Ninja Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: teh intarweb Posts: 1,718	Well, PCI-Express and Serial ATA have much more long-term potential - there are many other things to it besides speed. And hey, at least ATi announced new gfx cores for their PCI Express line. :-) __________________ 09 f9 11 02 9d 74 e3 5b d8 41 56 c5 63 56 88 c0

February 22nd, 2004	#14 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	The problem with AGP is that it eats resourses to use it and it's only half-duplex. I'd assume with more bandwidth avaliable and less system load, it'd be viable to do more switching frommain memory. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,237	hmmm, i wonder, when they start rolling the pcx boards, and what if there still isn't any pcx videocards... my voodoo3 pci will live to see another day!!! __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

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