News from Russian PSX emu developers

emuLynx · April 19th, 2003

Ok, I had some time to update all the pages I could...

http://psxdevru.sf.net (only russian version is updated)
http://rbpse.sf.net (news in english!)

Here is news digest on what's happening.

RomikB, RbPSe author made 0.40 version exactly 1 month ago.
He sent me the sources (250+kb of ASM code), win32 binary and instructions on compilation. He said that it's very unstable so I thought it was a bad idea to distribute it... It has new unique plugin system. You can use all the standard plugins, but there's a new modular core standard, which will allow to create own modules to replace specific core parts! There's also CPU (!) plugin which has own settings. He stopped at that point and said that he needs some time to rest, since it was a long and hard way...
RomikB optimised all the sources and now they are crossplatform! He already ported emulator to... BeOS! He reports that RbPSe runs many times faster than FPSE. You can see couple of screenshots on the official page. He also develops BeOS plugins.

organic, HLPSE author had major computer fault early that year and he spent couple of monthes earning money and buying new PC. After that he wasn't able to go online for some time to cooperate with RomikB (they are cooperating together and writing a lot of docs in russian and sometimes in english). He was writing highly optimised crossplatform GameBoy emulator. Main purpose was to make it run fullspeed on PSX. On the official page you can find sources for Win32 version including 2 executables (old and new versions). PSX version is unavailable since it contains proprietary ROM image in it. I hope he'll introduce a way to insert roms into executable or make loader for it. A bit later he started to cooperate with e}|{ (developer of awesome software GPU plugin which is written mostly in ASM). They added support for most mappers and made couple of versions using different cores - their own, Marat's, GNUBOY's... They made binary release on e}|{'s site (http://ej.psxfanatics.com) for Win32 (which I mirrored at sf.net). He reports that emulator right now is much more advanced than previous release. They are planning to finish GB soon and move back to HLPSE. There was almost no progress with HLPSE, since it's a very complicated job to reverse engineer all the function calls which are left...

That's it for now.

We've also initiated vote at our forum about the emulator.
Since our forum might contain some links which can be treated illegal by local admins, I'm opening a poll here.

We want to hear your opinions and not the words "cool" / "uncool". Please post real arguments.

The question is:
Is it better to make emulator with minimal settings like VGS/Bleem! so anybody could use it

or

Emulator which everybody could tune the way he wants. Hundreds of options, configurable core for professionals, etc etc.

kiraseed · April 19th, 2003

Hmm tough vote, I like the simplicity of emulator's for playing games but I also like complex ones with fun unique features.

aldo18 · April 19th, 2003

If it works well I have no problems in configuring it. Btw a frontend will make it easier....

Drack · April 19th, 2003

I think that this is the wrong place to ask this question. Most of the people that visit these boards know what their doing with emulators, and love to play around with them. Thus, they would prefer a more costomizable options layout. I know that I would.

Rebel_X · April 19th, 2003

But who denys the power of Limited Options, even SONY known the POWERFULL monster inside VGS.

I voted for Simplicity.

**Shadow Lady** · April 19th, 2003

hummm...

what about a simple emu, but in the same emu u can try the advanced/expert options?

April 19th, 2003

Yea, like ICQ has advanced/simple mode .

but really , with the comminites we have here and great guides written for everything , advanced options wont be a problem since everyone can get help to set them up .

Sera · April 19th, 2003

we could make it like project 64, have an option to hide the advance commands.

April 19th, 2003

Señorita Sombra already said what I would have said. Make an emu w/both simple and complex functions. Or maybe two version of the same emu, one simple and one complex.
The simple one would be for people who are newcomers to the emu scene or who just want to jump in and start playing their favorite games right away. The complex one would be for people (like myself) who like to configure an emu "every which way from Sunday" and try to get the most out of it.
This idea and work sounds very promising to me. If it is kept up, we may see another great PSX emu that could join the ranks of ePSXe and PS7.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

**Yeloazndevil** · April 19th, 2003

I ike a emulator to be complex

Badaro · April 19th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Señorita Sombra
hummm...

what about a simple emu, but in the same emu u can try the advanced/expert options?

Jackpot.

The best thing IMHO is to have a emulator with minimal settings by default, but with an "Advanced Mode" to allow more experienced users to tweak the emulator at will, much like what Roor and Juan are trying to do with AdriPSX ILE.

[]s Badaro

April 19th, 2003

Woah. AdriPSX .. thats a name i havent heard in a long long time ..

**Prafull** · April 22nd, 2003

I agree with sxamiga, badaro and senorita.

Introduce both options, that will satisfy both type of users.

chp · April 22nd, 2003

I'm following SXAmiga, Señorita sombra, ChaosBlade and Badaro...
I would like this new emu to be as simple as possible for my daughter and childs and also complette (not complex) for experimented users.

emuLynx · May 5th, 2003

Thank you for your answers, we'll try to keep that in mind.

View Poll Results: What's better?
Emulator with simple limited settings.	5	38.46%
Hundreds of complicated settings for everyone.	8	61.54%
Voters: 13. You may not vote on this poll

April 19th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
emuLynx Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Riga, Latvia Posts: 66	News from Russian PSX emu developers Ok, I had some time to update all the pages I could... http://psxdevru.sf.net (only russian version is updated) http://rbpse.sf.net (news in english!) Here is news digest on what's happening. RomikB, RbPSe author made 0.40 version exactly 1 month ago. He sent me the sources (250+kb of ASM code), win32 binary and instructions on compilation. He said that it's very unstable so I thought it was a bad idea to distribute it... It has new unique plugin system. You can use all the standard plugins, but there's a new modular core standard, which will allow to create own modules to replace specific core parts! There's also CPU (!) plugin which has own settings. He stopped at that point and said that he needs some time to rest, since it was a long and hard way... RomikB optimised all the sources and now they are crossplatform! He already ported emulator to... BeOS! He reports that RbPSe runs many times faster than FPSE. You can see couple of screenshots on the official page. He also develops BeOS plugins. organic, HLPSE author had major computer fault early that year and he spent couple of monthes earning money and buying new PC. After that he wasn't able to go online for some time to cooperate with RomikB (they are cooperating together and writing a lot of docs in russian and sometimes in english). He was writing highly optimised crossplatform GameBoy emulator. Main purpose was to make it run fullspeed on PSX. On the official page you can find sources for Win32 version including 2 executables (old and new versions). PSX version is unavailable since it contains proprietary ROM image in it. I hope he'll introduce a way to insert roms into executable or make loader for it. A bit later he started to cooperate with e}\|{ (developer of awesome software GPU plugin which is written mostly in ASM). They added support for most mappers and made couple of versions using different cores - their own, Marat's, GNUBOY's... They made binary release on e}\|{'s site (http://ej.psxfanatics.com) for Win32 (which I mirrored at sf.net). He reports that emulator right now is much more advanced than previous release. They are planning to finish GB soon and move back to HLPSE. There was almost no progress with HLPSE, since it's a very complicated job to reverse engineer all the function calls which are left... That's it for now. We've also initiated vote at our forum about the emulator. Since our forum might contain some links which can be treated illegal by local admins, I'm opening a poll here. We want to hear your opinions and not the words "cool" / "uncool". Please post real arguments. The question is: Is it better to make emulator with minimal settings like VGS/Bleem! so anybody could use it or Emulator which everybody could tune the way he wants. Hundreds of options, configurable core for professionals, etc etc.

April 19th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
kiraseed "That wasn't so bad." Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Amongst The Clouds Posts: 611	Hmm tough vote, I like the simplicity of emulator's for playing games but I also like complex ones with fun unique features. __________________ "It's an Air Pirate's duty to cause trouble...I feel so accomplished." +WinXP SP1+P4 2.8C GHz HT+1.5GB 2700 RAM+ +64MB ATI RADEON 9200LE 8X AGP+Sony DVD±RW 4x+ +Sony CD-ROM 40x+120GB 8MB 7200rpm HDD+ Blue Rogues

April 19th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
aldo18 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Italy Posts: 25	If it works well I have no problems in configuring it. Btw a frontend will make it easier.... __________________ Cpu: AMD Athlon XP 1600+ Ram: 768 Mb PC 2700 Mobo: Asus A7V266-E Hdd: Maxtor 740X 60 GB + Maxtor 120 GB Video: ATI Radeon 7500

April 19th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
Drack Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: PDX, USA Posts: 1,187	I think that this is the wrong place to ask this question. Most of the people that visit these boards know what their doing with emulators, and love to play around with them. Thus, they would prefer a more costomizable options layout. I know that I would. __________________ Athlon64 +3200, GeForceFX 5900, 1024 MB DDR 400, nForce3 250Gb chipset 80 GB SATA Seagate , 80 GB 7200 RPM Seagate, 120 GB 7200 Seagate Lite-on SOHD-167T and Pioneer DVR-A06D Running XP Professional and SuSe 9.1

April 19th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
Rebel_X Smart Star Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Chicago, Oak Lawn Posts: 880	But who denys the power of Limited Options, even SONY known the POWERFULL monster inside VGS. I voted for Simplicity. __________________ "Set sail to sea , But pulled off course By the light of golden treasure. How could he know This new dawn's light. Would change his life forever? How can I be lost, If I've got nowhere to go? Search for seas of gold. How come it's got so cold? How can I be lost? In remembrance I relive.. So how can I blame you When it's me I can't forgive?" - Metallica The Unforgiven ]\|[

April 19th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
Shadow Lady Advanced Newbie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bogotá... not that it matters... Posts: 5,033	hummm... what about a simple emu, but in the same emu u can try the advanced/expert options? __________________ Main Rig: Pentium Dual-Core E2160 @ 2.5GHz -- 7600GT @ 650/800MHz -- 2GB DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 -- Windows XP Pro SP3 Collecting dust: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ -- ATI Radeon 9500 Pro -- SB Live 5.1 Digital -- 2.5GB DDR 2-2-2-5 Ram -- Windows 2003 server r2 SP1

April 19th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
chaosblade Guest Posts: n/a	Yea, like ICQ has advanced/simple mode . but really , with the comminites we have here and great guides written for everything , advanced options wont be a problem since everyone can get help to set them up .

April 19th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
Sera Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 2,966	we could make it like project 64, have an option to hide the advance commands.

April 19th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	Señorita Sombra already said what I would have said. Make an emu w/both simple and complex functions. Or maybe two version of the same emu, one simple and one complex. The simple one would be for people who are newcomers to the emu scene or who just want to jump in and start playing their favorite games right away. The complex one would be for people (like myself) who like to configure an emu "every which way from Sunday" and try to get the most out of it. This idea and work sounds very promising to me. If it is kept up, we may see another great PSX emu that could join the ranks of ePSXe and PS7. sincerely, sx/amiga

April 19th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
Yeloazndevil :3 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,147	I ike a emulator to be complex

April 19th, 2003	#12 (permalink)
chaosblade Guest Posts: n/a	Woah. AdriPSX .. thats a name i havent heard in a long long time ..

April 22nd, 2003	#13 (permalink)
Prafull Administrator, PCSX2 tester Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: India Posts: 683	I agree with sxamiga, badaro and senorita. Introduce both options, that will satisfy both type of users. __________________ E6750, Abit ip35E, XFX 8600GT 256 MB DDR3, Transcend 2GB DDR2 800 RAM

April 22nd, 2003	#14 (permalink)
chp Bip...Bip... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: on Earth Posts: 966	I'm following SXAmiga, Señorita sombra, ChaosBlade and Badaro... I would like this new emu to be as simple as possible for my daughter and childs and also complette (not complex) for experimented users. __________________ If god doesn't exist in our world, then...I will create god with my own hands!

May 5th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
emuLynx Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Riga, Latvia Posts: 66	Thank you for your answers, we'll try to keep that in mind.

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