Final Fantasy fans and Geforce users might be in for some good news.

permalink · November 24th, 2002

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PCgamer Holiday 2002, Volume 9, Issue 13 Page 29

Final Fantasy XI announced: Nvidia and Square have teamed up to develop a geforce 4 ti: enhanced version of Final Fantasy XI for the PC. Currently , the massively multiplayer online RPG is set for launch only in Japan this November, But inside sources have confirmed that FF XI will eventually be released in the US

Just like 3dfx used too. Nvidia seems to be really good about working with game developers and getting Nvidia only features, While of course this is good for Nvidia. I wonder if it'll cut the nose off develops despite there face in the future, As it doesn't seem to be a problem lately with non Nvidia cards, aside from running games with tuned down features.

Interesting none the less

K.I.L.E.R · November 24th, 2002

Oh great. Just when I am loking for a R300. ROTFLMAO!

Though knowing FFXI will be a P2P (pay to play) MMORPG, I will not purchase it.

Maybe Square might release a later patch after it's out or some kind of quick fix that will enable those features with Ati's cards.

**Demigod** · November 24th, 2002

I don't understand why developers would develop their software for a particular card. The entire point of DirectX is to have a single API to program for that's compatible with a wide range of cards.

Not that I would want to get this game anyways.

permalink · November 24th, 2002

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Originally posted by Demigod
I don't understand why developers would develop their software for a particular card. The entire point of DirectX is to have a single API to program for that's compatible with a wide range of cards.

Not that I would want to get this game anyways.

Well I think it may be "good" for me now. I don't think its paticularly good for the future, I don't want to be in the scenerio where I am now trying to play those old 3dfx stickered games in D3d because they simply don't work with ATI and Nvidia's newer cards.

campi · November 24th, 2002

I think it's a bad move from square, I don't think ppl would be buying ffxi anyway, and now they make it nvidia only?? now even those who planned to buy it and don't have an nvidia card are not going to buy it

Carnage · November 24th, 2002

Now i know why i saved my money for almost a year

**Shadow Lady** · November 24th, 2002

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Originally posted by Demigod
The entire point of DirectX is to have a single API to program for that's compatible with a wide range of cards.

heh, like the only 2 DirectX9 compatible cards? :P

Carnage · November 24th, 2002

Hey shadowlady,long time no seen

**Shadow Lady** · November 24th, 2002

heh,
Hey there ^^

Carnage · November 24th, 2002

Lots of things have happend when you where not here...things like the change in OT,some newbie also kept calling me n00b,Ninja keeps defending the NGC(oh,wait that aint new

),we ate some of Xeven's delicious tomatoes,and as always some people came asking for iso's and roms...and lots of more happend

permalink · November 24th, 2002

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Originally posted by campi
I think it's a bad move from square, I don't think ppl would be buying ffxi anyway, and now they make it nvidia only?? now even those who planned to buy it and don't have an nvidia card are not going to buy it

Oddly enough Nvidia is pulling a lot of intels right now. getting exclusive rights to certain features in games. Similar to what Intel has done in the past.

a Similar scenerio would be Everquest 2 and Geforce 3 + Card only features and a Geforce FX shading specifically for the Geforce FX

Sera · November 24th, 2002

will the enhancement only work for geforce 4? how bout geforce 2?

shinji^ · November 24th, 2002

hmm..this GF stuff sounds good for now

**Shadow Lady** · November 24th, 2002

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Originally posted by Tokimune
will the enhancement only work for geforce 4? how bout geforce 2?

well, I think the enhancements, are only for some features that the GF4ti have, not other card (right now) have at the mo ^^

permalink · November 24th, 2002

Hmmm, this sound more like a "Bill Gates" to me. "If you want to play this game w/all the neat features, then you'd better have this card to play it with." Very bad move on Square and Nvidia's part. This will just make people angry w/them and will cause people to "turn their backs" on them. IMHO, not very smart at all.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

**Shadow Lady** · November 24th, 2002

It sounds more like 3dfx and voodoos to me

seems like nVIDIA is starting to use 3dfx's technology

zukeft · November 24th, 2002

Reminds me of the Nintendo's motto, "Get N or get out". It's slightly unfair for gamers... but it seems as Square has been switching sides constantly. As long as there'll be a general game for us non-Geforce users, I'll be happy.

I'd like to see what the Ti enhanced version has too. If it's just a few more polygons, it just won't cut it.

permalink · November 25th, 2002

Well it shoulkd also be noted that this article was very vague. But I do consider PCgamer a reliable source as far as PC news goes.

So whos to say what the features will be, It might be the same game but Geforce 4 Ti + users can turn on features that other users cannot.

K.I.L.E.R · November 26th, 2002

Chris, you are scaring me.

Though I doubt PC games from well known companies like ID Software etc...
would go the way Square have.

**Demigod** · November 26th, 2002

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Originally posted by ChrisRay
a Similar scenerio would be Everquest 2 and Geforce 3 + Card only features and a Geforce FX shading specifically for the Geforce FX

Yeah, not to mention NWN. Tsk, tsk, it's such a shame. Especially considering the powerful pixel shader capabilities of the Radeon 8500/9000/9500/9700 cards.

November 24th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	Oh great. Just when I am loking for a R300. ROTFLMAO! Though knowing FFXI will be a P2P (pay to play) MMORPG, I will not purchase it. Maybe Square might release a later patch after it's out or some kind of quick fix that will enable those features with Ati's cards. __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon.

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Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	I don't understand why developers would develop their software for a particular card. The entire point of DirectX is to have a single API to program for that's compatible with a wide range of cards. Not that I would want to get this game anyways. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

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Carnage Illusion's play Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a world of lies Posts: 3,703	Lots of things have happend when you where not here...things like the change in OT,some newbie also kept calling me n00b,Ninja keeps defending the NGC(oh,wait that aint new ),we ate some of Xeven's delicious tomatoes,and as always some people came asking for iso's and roms...and lots of more happend __________________ Member of the " Pessimists Club " Visit my personal Doom project (music,not the game) at Lament Of Suffering

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Sera Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 2,966	will the enhancement only work for geforce 4? how bout geforce 2?

November 24th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
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November 24th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	Hmmm, this sound more like a "Bill Gates" to me. "If you want to play this game w/all the neat features, then you'd better have this card to play it with." Very bad move on Square and Nvidia's part. This will just make people angry w/them and will cause people to "turn their backs" on them. IMHO, not very smart at all. sincerely, sx/amiga

November 24th, 2002	#16 (permalink)
Shadow Lady Advanced Newbie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bogotá... not that it matters... Posts: 4,728	It sounds more like 3dfx and voodoos to me seems like nVIDIA is starting to use 3dfx's technology __________________ Main Rig: Pentium Dual-Core E2160 @ 2.3GHz -- 7600GT @ 650/800MHz -- 1GB DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 -- Windows XP Pro SP2 Collecting dust: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ -- ATI Radeon 9500 Pro -- SB Live 5.1 Digital -- 2.5GB DDR 2-2-2-5 Ram -- Windows 2003 server r2 SP1

November 24th, 2002	#17 (permalink)
zukeft Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bogota, Colombia Posts: 1,157	Reminds me of the Nintendo's motto, "Get N or get out". It's slightly unfair for gamers... but it seems as Square has been switching sides constantly. As long as there'll be a general game for us non-Geforce users, I'll be happy. I'd like to see what the Ti enhanced version has too. If it's just a few more polygons, it just won't cut it. __________________ Flaretech.biz web hosting

November 25th, 2002	#18 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Well it shoulkd also be noted that this article was very vague. But I do consider PCgamer a reliable source as far as PC news goes. So whos to say what the features will be, It might be the same game but Geforce 4 Ti + users can turn on features that other users cannot.

November 26th, 2002	#19 (permalink)
K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	Chris, you are scaring me. Though I doubt PC games from well known companies like ID Software etc... would go the way Square have. __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon.

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