Best Dolphin Revision for SSBM?

[Yami Prem]

Hello, this is my first post here so I will say hi and post my question alongside it.

What I want to know is pretty much what the title reads, I ONLY really want to play 'Super Smash Bros. Melee' for the 'Gamecube'. And yes, I do own a Gamecube console myslef, well did until it stopped playing my games.

I have downloaded the latest version of Dolphin and I have followed 'iNexXxuS's video guide to set it up. I burned my game and ran it. It plays on most stages at 20 FPS and sometimes at 30 FPS - if I am lucky- at lowest resolution, non-fullscreen. Would frame-skipping help increase FPS? I heard older versions of Dolphin run faster, so I ask, anyone suggest the best version to run 'SSBM'?

This is the laptop's specs since my desktop is complete fail:

Processor Type: Intel Core 2 Duo processor T6500
Processor speed: 2.1Ghz, 800Mhz, 2MB
Memory Size: 3GB MB
Memory Type: DDR2 SD RAM
Screen Size/Type: 16.4 WXGA++
Graphics Card Type: ATi Mobility Radeon HD 3470
Graphics Memory: 1530MB dedicated GDDR3 256 MB

Thank you for reading.

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Last edited by Yami Prem; 4 Weeks Ago at 13:15.. Reason: Fixed typos.

[Gareth1977]

Pretty much any revision will play SSBM at fullspeed, the slow down is caused by a weak processor. Frame skipping will lower FPS but give the game a speed boost (frameskipping renders less frames per second)

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[Yami Prem]

Originally Posted by Gareth1977

Pretty much any revision will play SSBM at fullspeed, the slow down is caused by a weak processor. Frame skipping will lower FPS but give the game a speed boost (frameskipping renders less frames per second)

Oh yeah, that's why the game looks more ugly with frameskipping. I'd stick to default then. And thanks, weak processor eh? Hm...

EDIT: While I am here, would it be pretty much the same performance for Wii ISOs?

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Last edited by Yami Prem; 4 Weeks Ago at 14:48.. Reason: Another question.

[Gareth1977]

The weak processor comment wasnt intended as offensive at all, it's just 3Ghz dual core processors are really the recommended requirement for good performance with Dolphin. To be honest I would expect worse performance with Wii games. Which graphic plugin did you try the game with?

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[Yami Prem]

Originally Posted by Gareth1977

The weak processor comment wasnt intended as offensive at all, it's just 3Ghz dual core processors are really the recommended requirement for good performance with Dolphin. To be honest I would expect worse performance with Wii games. Which graphic plugin did you try the game with?

The default OpenGL one. And yeah, I never took any offense at all, I was just a bit surprised at how much the emulator required. But it is all good, after all: Have lame, no game. Heh...I know right? Just made it up on spot.

[RazLaron]

Use some of the last Revs and i recommand to use D3D (not OpenGL).
D3D is a lot faster and emulate most of the game. I run 1 Vs 1 with 55 fps and 35 fps when more peoples.
So forget OpenGL. D3D is better ^^.

What OS and rev do you use?

I recomand too, to put your computer specification in the signature .

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[Gareth1977]

Yeah thats what i was getting at, you will see a speed boost by using Direct3D plugin

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[Yami Prem]

Oh. I am laughing at my signature that I just typed up BEFORE you said that 'RazLaron'. But yeah, I am using Windows Vista and I just downloaded version 1713 and I just 'OK'ed the 'Error loading DLL Plugins Video DX9' and went straight to running the game. And I do notice a HUGE improvement overall, 1 on 1 is faster but both faster than the previous version I was using - which I think was the latest- but it's funny when I went back to run THAT version (latest) it also sped up (FPS-wise)...Strange. But yeah, I seem to be getting 40 odd FPS now, that is nice.
Say, you know if R 1713 is set to D3D plugin by default? *Goes to check*

EDIT: Oh wait... I have a DirectX10 compatible graphics card so I just ignore the error at startup, huh?

And anyone guide/link me to where I can download a D3D plugin you speak of please? Thankies!

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[Gareth1977]

Why are you using a really old revision? The emulator doesnt use Directx10, so you need the august 2009 update of DX9. The plugin is already installed with dolphin.

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[Yami Prem]

Originally Posted by Gareth1977

Why are you using a really old revision? The emulator doesnt use Directx10, so you need the august 2009 update of DX9. The plugin is already installed with dolphin.

Oh. Not with this revision it isn't.
But it is a really old one though, so which you reccommend?

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[Gareth1977]

one of the newer revisions 4400 or above

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[Yami Prem]

Originally Posted by Gareth1977

one of the newer revisions 4400 or above

4400 or above? I never even knew it went up that high, here look:
Dolphin, the Gamecube and Wii emulator - Downloads: [Unofficial] Windows Builds 32bit

R 3972 is the most recent unless that is outdated...

But Google gives me no result either. You can link me or something...?

A side-question, does the resolution affect FPS?

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[RazLaron]

Last rev is exactly rev4438.
You can compile it yourself with Visual Studio if you want to have it really quickly (i do it by myself to not wait ) or you can see some signature of some people who propose to give you an early rev.

Resolution change just a little but not really much (AA don't work for now but will ^^).

About signature. I just recommand that not to criticate your spec (it's better than mine). But in some case, some things works only on some OS or Graphic Cards (some knows that ATI can work differently than an Nvidia) etc... So asking all the time your spec to help you is boring (maybe the first times we understand but after some posts most put this to earn many times). So be constructive about that .

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[Yami Prem]

Originally Posted by RazLaron

Last rev is exactly rev4438.
You can compile it yourself with Visual Studio if you want to have it really quickly (i do it by myself to not wait ) or you can see some signature of some people who propose to give you an early rev.

Resolution change just a little but not really much (AA don't work for now but will ^^).

About signature. I just recommand that not to criticate your spec (it's better than mine). But in some case, some things works only on some OS or Graphic Cards (some knows that ATI can work differently than an Nvidia) etc... So asking all the time your spec to help you is boring (maybe the first times we understand but after some posts most put this to earn many times). So be constructive about that .

Hee hee. I know.

Anyway...compile do-a-what?

Sorry mate, but I have no idea the heck you talkin' about, hehe.

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[RazLaron]

Originally Posted by Yami Prem

Hee hee. I know.

Anyway...compile do-a-what?

Sorry mate, but I have no idea the heck you talkin' about, hehe.

Ok, Dolphin exist only in source files (files with codes which makes him what it does : emulation ).
But to have an executable, you must use an software to compile these source files. So compile create an exe and all dll (dll : libraries) etc...

But if you are not a developper it's maybe too complicate (i don't know : i'm a developper).

It exist a thread about compiling to help you.
Just some advice if you want to try :
Install Visual Studio
Install DirectX SDK August 09
Install SVN (Tortoise SVN) to checkout the sources with the trunk
And to build (compile) dolphin, use 'Generate' (i use to 'Regenerate' because some changes can't be applied without cleaning stuff ^^)

But if you want to not do it, see some users signature some are specialists to share revs .

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[Yami Prem]

Originally Posted by RazLaron

Ok, Dolphin exist only in source files (files with codes which makes him what it does : emulation ).
But to have an executable, you must use an software to compile these source files. So compile create an exe and all dll (dll : libraries) etc...

But if you are not a developper it's maybe too complicate (i don't know : i'm a developper).

It exist a thread about compiling to help you.
Just some advice if you want to try :
Install Visual Studio
Install DirectX SDK August 09
Install SVN (Tortoise SVN) to checkout the sources with the trunk
And to build (compile) dolphin, use 'Generate' (i use to 'Regenerate' because some changes can't be applied without cleaning stuff ^^)

But if you want to not do it, see some users signature some are specialists to share revs .

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I don't want to bother anyone too much, as long as I have a working emulator that runs SSBM perfectly (or as close enough) then i am happy.

At the moment I am using OpenGL and it seems to run well on most stages, some still 'lag' though. So I will switch to D3D as you suggest, first I got to fix this error message.

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[D1M1TR1]

As for getting one of the latest built revisions, check the FAQ on this section and follow the links on this thread to various sites that host compiled revisions.
A list of the latest changes in source code can be found here : these can improve or break things or both, so you should test different revisions.

Unless you have a lot of questions to ask, I suggest you try taking the time to enable/disable most of the options in Dolphin so you understand what they do and with how much speed (disabling EFB reads make emulation a bit faster for example)...

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DirectSound 1.0.1.4 beta: 22050 Hz - Stereo - Synchronize - buffer of 7 seconds
OpenGL 3D: disable Shaders and Fog (maybe Software Lights) unless stated otherwise.

[Yami Prem]

Yes I should, and will so when I get the time.

But thank you for the link, it is a big help.

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[Gareth1977]

you are getting errors on Direct3d plugin because you need directx9 august 2009

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[YugiFann]

Originally Posted by Yami Prem

Hello, this is my first post here so I will say hi and post my question alongside it.

What I want to know is pretty much what the title reads, I ONLY really want to play 'Super Smash Bros. Melee' for the 'Gamecube'. And yes, I do own a Gamecube console myslef, well did until it stopped playing my games.

I have downloaded the latest version of Dolphin and I have followed 'iNexXxuS's video guide to set it up. I burned my game and ran it. It plays on most stages at 20 FPS and sometimes at 30 FPS - if I am lucky- at lowest resolution, non-fullscreen. Would frame-skipping help increase FPS? I heard older versions of Dolphin run faster, so I ask, anyone suggest the best version to run 'SSBM'?

This is the laptop's specs since my desktop is complete fail:

Processor Type: Intel Core 2 Duo processor T6500
Processor speed: 2.1Ghz, 800Mhz, 2MB
Memory Size: 3GB MB
Memory Type: DDR2 SD RAM
Screen Size/Type: 16.4 WXGA++
Graphics Card Type: ATi Mobility Radeon HD 3470
Graphics Memory: 1530MB dedicated GDDR3 256 MB

Thank you for reading.

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