Probable solution for my OGL problem...

[Chilango]

Originally Posted by -Shockwave-

It's a bit frustrating seeing so many people able to play games with the emulator and seeing so many great screen shots with the "Nvidia plugin" and then when I try with the DX9 plugin I get nothing. My PC is fine to run the emulator except my choice in video cards it seems, as DX9 is hopeless at this point.

Oh well. Still a great job on the emulator. If I would have known at the time I could have went the Nvidia way, but it's too late now with all the cash I already spent.

be patient now, the emu is open source, is more probable, that have a solution. , but the money you have spent not have one.

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[daco]

Originally Posted by COWBOYJESUS

I believe he's saying that devs want to concentrate on the problems that they themselves encounter before trying to fix those of every person on the forum. It may not be to everyone's liking, but it will help the development team maintain focus so that they don't constantly have to backtrack to fix every problem that crops up for us testers. This is just my interpretation, but it makes sense to me.

shockwave said that it looked like they are selfish bastards that only fix stuff so it works on their os/computer.

which i "countered" by saying that if it doesn't work on their pc it wont work on the users computers.

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[bad_billou]

Originally Posted by Xtreme2damax

We are well aware Dolphin is coded in your spare time and as a hobby, however given the extremely small user base of Linux and MacOS compared to Windows not to mention some/most Linux users don't care for emulation it would be more productive to improve the Windows version before other ports were considered.

I didn't mean anything offensive by what I said, just that there is reletively few users looking for a port to another operating system in comparison with Windows.

Before saying things like this inform yourself...

Dolphin GNU/Linux and OSX community is nearly empty simply because Dolphin DO NOT WORK under thoses OSes, that's all !!

-Under GNU/Linux dolphin ALWAYS end with this error when 3D is about to be displayed :

(0) : fatal error C9999:  exception during compilation  Cg compiler terminated due to fatal error

-Under OSX dophin simply do not work

If you watch other emu project like Muppen64, PCXS2 or ePSXe you will notice a HUGE difference because thoses emu were disigned multi-OSes from the begining, whitch was the right way from the begining because all improvements apply to all OSes. Dolphin was WINDOWS ONLY emu for years...

Stop complaining about windows issues when you have a working emu with your OS...

The only thing I agree is the fact Dolphin need a defined and controlled roadmap and all contributors must think about other OSes/hardware...This will avoid having to make 5 rev to fix mess caused by a contributor.

I think other way because it's my job, even if i like collaborative and open source projects, in THIS case, it's totally counter-productive.

Even if i'm sure dolphin team know and understand this, they've decided to still work with "wild" contributors so end of the story, be happy with waht you have or contribute to change things but do not say "i want a better windows build because i have the 'hhhhaaarrdd ddiiccckkkk' windows os and i don't care about other oses" when the windows build is FAR better than others and because it's simply a retarded way of thinking...

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[jasong]

I was under the impression that it worked fairly well in OSX.

[bad_billou]

Last time I checked it was non-functionnal, my Macbook Pro is shipped for repair right now so I cannot check.

Perhaps someone can confirm if it really work good under OSX now.

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[jasong]

eh, I might be wrong you know. Thought I read it somewhere.

But I agree on the point about a defined and controlled roadmap, it's what I was saying earlier. Even if it is a part-time thing, the whole process would be much smoother with collaborative controls and target-setting in place, things like that.

[MasterPhW]

I think someone really needs to close this topic, because it goes in the completely wrong way. It started as an discussion related to the OGL Problems and now it's moaning about the devs and their improvements.
Dolphin is open source, so everybody that has coding skills can improve it his or herself.
Windows was the main plattform of dolphin with its first releases but now it's open source, that's the reason why the main changes are done on other OSes to get it running there.
A lot other improvements are done on the whole emulation or isn't save state support nothing greatly? Or the always improved compatibility?
All of you should be patient or work on dolphin to improve it, but what you never should do is demand something to the devs.

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[Why-Fi]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

blah blah blah, should do this should do that.

You should all just shut ur traps and let the developers go at their own pace. Rome wasn't built in a day, and if it had've been it would've been from mud and sticks.




You've absolutely no idea do you. If you did, you would know that the stack error is occuring in the emulated code, and not the emulator itself. This could be a Core issue, or it could be a unsupported video technique the game is attempting to use.

But it's Super Smash Bros Melee I was trying to emulate with OGL, and SSBM is proven to work with the OGL plugin...

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[-Shockwave-]

Why is it every time a topic does not praise someone and people start to tell the truth does a topic need to be closed? People are starting to tell it like it is, "time to shut it down and hide it from the world."

As I SPECIFICALLY said, I do not demand anything from the devs, but getting the emulator working on the most common OS that 75% of the population use seems like a better idea than getting it working on an OS that less than half of the population use.

And daco, I was not calling the devs selfish bastards when I said they were trying to get the emulator working on linux, but I was explaining to Xtreme why they were working on it for that OS. What would you call talking time to stop general progress for very limited progress that not many people can take advantage of? It would obviously be something for them self and not necessarily selfish since they already have done so much for us.

The devs are doing a fine job and do not need to listen to what anyone says, but me making a comment about work being done on a rare OS that is hardly used is not a crazy comment to wonder about.

[Why-Fi]

Ok, as this topic is starting to get confusing, I have decided to post a video showing the crash, using rev 126 and HyperCam 2.

Please tell me if I'm not correctly configurating the plugin.

You're my last hope guys!

I can play Melee in dolphin almost as good as in my gamecube. The only thing that's missing is the graphics! Damn black areas in the DX9... And I can't play in the Fountain of Dreams, because it becomes as slow as 1 fps...

Attached Files

OGL crash video.rar (1.72 MB, 18 views)

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[MasterPhW]

Originally Posted by -Shockwave-

Why is it every time a topic does not praise someone and people start to tell the truth does a topic need to be closed? People are starting to tell it like it is, "time to shut it down and hide it from the world."

As I SPECIFICALLY said, I do not demand anything from the devs, but getting the emulator working on the most common OS that 75% of the population use seems like a better idea than getting it working on an OS that less than half of the population use.

And daco, I was not calling the devs selfish bastards when I said they were trying to get the emulator working on linux, but I was explaining to Xtreme why they were working on it for that OS. What would you call talking time to stop general progress for very limited progress that not many people can take advantage of? It would obviously be something for them self and not necessarily selfish since they already have done so much for us.

The devs are doing a fine job and do not need to listen to what anyone says, but me making a comment about work being done on a rare OS that is hardly used is not a crazy comment to wonder about.

Do you know why I call it, it needs to be closed? Did you read my post? It totally miss the topic problem, discuss this kind of topic in another thread if you like, but this topic was started with the OGL Problem in mind, not your OS moaning at all!

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[memberTwo]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

You've absolutely no idea do you. If you did, you would know that the stack error is occuring in the emulated code, and not the emulator itself. This could be a Core issue, or it could be a unsupported video technique the game is attempting to use.

This was a joke... just teasing a bit the devs
Dolphin still in wip, that's why unhandled exception callback could be called yet. Can't really blame devs for that.
btw, don't now if every moaner here realize that they made a REAL real-time compiler: the jit (THIS is HUUUUUUGE work). In all the asm mess (didn't found a more positive word sorry) that the jit product, a bad prepared pointer and then... let's go for a memory gardenning party (and when that memory become execution code: oh boy! ).

eeh... I'm still on topic (and as you provocted me) yes this exeption log means nothing... without more info. And if it's a stack issue it could come from everywhere: near or sometimes far from the exeption throw (if the code is "lucky")... So I agree with you: Who says it must be a GL issue?


Off topic: About the roadmap...
I agree but dolphin is young as open project. So it will naturally organize itself. For now, F|res and ector have to give a lot of infos (what they patiently do). Dev's learning phase of dolphin is not totaly over I guess.

bad_billou: Salut a toi, tres cher compatriote. (nous ne sommes pas assez nombreux ici pour laisser passer)

[daco]

Originally Posted by Why-Fi

Ok, as this topic is starting to get confusing, I have decided to post a video showing the crash, using rev 126 and HyperCam 2.

Please tell me if I'm not correctly configurating the plugin.

You're my last hope guys!

I can play Melee in dolphin almost as good as in my gamecube. The only thing that's missing is the graphics! Damn black areas in the DX9... And I can't play in the Fountain of Dreams, because it becomes as slow as 1 fps...

if i would know what the error said i could try and help...
EDIT: nvm, it says dolphinwx.exe has encountered a problem and needs to be closed
tried to changing compatibility mode? idk

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[jasong]

I've seen those error messages on mine as well, I'm not sure it's related to SSBM though.

[Why-Fi]

Originally Posted by daco

if i would know what the error said i could try and help...
EDIT: nvm, it says dolphinwx.exe has encountered a problem and needs to be closed
tried to changing compatibility mode? idk

Yes, tried everything, compatibility on, off, run as administrator, deactivate the Aero theme, 640x800 resolution thing, doesn't work.

Off topic, but by the way, can you read portuguese?? How in the world do you know what the message says if it's in portuguese??

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[jasong]

Belgian and Portugese are surprisingly close to one another.

[omegadox]

I might try changing the OpenGL plugin where is renders using a REF device or something close to that (Direct3D has a REF device). Since it crashes on the hardware, I wonder if it can fully render the OGL extensions by software. I know it will be slow, but better than crashing.

[Why-Fi]

How is that possible?

Please tell me how to properly configurate the OGL plugin (someone that can use it, please tell me what are your configurations for it).

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[omegadox]

I have the source code of the whole project, so I can just change parts of the code of the OGL plugin. The config of OGL, well there isn't much to set really, I set my windowed res on 800x600.

[daco]

Originally Posted by jasong

Belgian and Portugese are surprisingly close to one another.

lolno

and i was able to read it cause it looked like french

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