Desmume surpasses in performance the No$gba

[Butz_san]

DeSmuME rocks

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[Lex_Light]

What about the non-SSE2 users? The non-SSE2 needs an optimization!

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Originally Posted by Lex_Light

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[gdeliana]

Still again the speed is not 100% in ALL games. Pokemon to me gets 50 fps with 0 frame skipping and 55 with 1 frame skipping. What i noticed was that the special effects on the pokemon battles get rendered exactly with colours. In no$gba it has black colour

Author says they are gonna work on the emulator on improving the frame skipping also

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[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Originally Posted by Lex_Light

What about the non-SSE2 users? The non-SSE2 needs an optimization!

.......it's not like just one build is being optimized...SSE2 is faster BECAUSE SSE2 IS FASTER
Also just because you have a weak system that does not see any speed gains does not mean that optimizations are not being made.

Originally Posted by gdeliana

Still again the speed is not 100% in ALL games. Pokemon to me gets 50 fps with 0 frame skipping and 55 with 1 frame skipping.

It's called having a weak system.

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@gdeliana
pokemon platinum works fullspeed for me, but no for castlevania, anyone able play castlevania fullspeed????

btw try DeSmuME_Intel_sse2.exe(intel build) i can't load 7z, only *.nds file but the VS2008 build works fine

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[BinarySlave]

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

.......it's not like just one build is being optimized...SSE2 is faster BECAUSE SSE2 IS FASTER

True when properly implemented.

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

Also just because you have a weak system that does not see any speed gains does not mean that optimizations are not being made.

Oh, common. The opposite is true. Especially "weaker" systems should benefit from optimisations. Which is one of the reasons optimisations are being made in the first place.

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

It's called having a weak system.

And you, with your "supernatural powers" know for sure that gdeliana has a weak system? Or are you simply matching him up with Lex_Light?
...and btw. Pokemon games run 60 FPS with No$GBA on an AMD Xp2800+.

And not only does "Emulation require a brain", as someone here in the forum has as signature, giving correct answers does as well.

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@Lex_Light, gdeliana
Desmume does emulate a few things more than No$GBA does.
In general support of more instructions of a CPU/GPU means a loss in emualtion speed compared to a version with lesser instruction support.
The way not supported instructions and errors are handled comes into account, too.

And no, not everything can be optimized to a degree where it runs smooth at even the lowest PC setup. There always will be a line drawn. No matter how good the code itself is.

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[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Originally Posted by BinarySlave

Oh, common. The opposite is true. Especially "weaker" systems should benefit from optimisations. Which is one of the reasons optimisations are being made in the first place.

An optimization does not always mean a speed gain one can see is what I was trying to get at.

And you, with your "supernatural powers" know for sure that gdeliana has a weak system? Or are you simply matching him up with Lex_Light?
...and btw. Pokemon games run 60 FPS with No$GBA on an AMD Xp2800+.

I have a strong system thus I know it's not that the emulator runs the game slow but that the system the emu is being run on is lacking.

And no, not everything can be optimized to a degree where it runs smooth at even the lowest PC setup. There always will be a line drawn. No matter how good the code itself is.

Which is what I meant when I pointed out he has a weak system.

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[BinarySlave]

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

An optimization does not always mean a speed gain one can see is what I was trying to get at.

You are absolutely right here.
I forgot the most important optimizations: for compatibility and stability.
Which should be the first to be made IMHO.

@all
But nonetheless, crying for speed optimizations every time a new build sees the public isn't nice behaviour.
/ranting off

You have to know that with every new instruction supported or feature added a "proof of concept" phase comes first. Those are the builds you get for testing and reporting back for errors, compatibilty- or stability problems.
After this phase you can hope or gently ask for further speed optimizations.

Optimizing things for more "speed" not sure to be working correctly, and this every time, simply is a big waste of development time and motivation.

And it stays a fact, that not everything can be optimzed for more "speed" at all.

No ranting here, just to bring some more understanding into some minds.

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[Lex_Light]

Well, then I'll wait until I get a new computer.

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Originally Posted by Lex_Light

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[tom_mai78101]

Originally Posted by Lex_Light

Well, then I'll wait until I get a new computer.

Make sure it's customized.

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[Butz2]

now no$gba sucks, desmume is much better

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[Silenus]

Originally Posted by nanaya

nope, I mean side by side windows like no$zoomer, useful for widescreen...

Yeah I've been wanting that feature since forever.

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[imlost]

Originally Posted by Butz2

now no$gba sucks, desmume is much better

Keep these comments to yourself.

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[Lex_Light]

Originally Posted by tom_mai78101

Make sure it's customized.

Well, I hope that my motherboard admits a decent dual-core processor and a decent graphics card.

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Originally Posted by Lex_Light

Because nobody wants to get your thread closed (and some reports, even BAN!).

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18 November 2009, at 19:59 : Nevar forget.

[nanaya]

Originally Posted by Silenus

Yeah I've been wanting that feature since forever.

They said it's planned on the FAQ, but I it's been around since 0.93 iirc

I'm not rushing it as they may have more important issues to address (compatibility and speed?), though it will be nice if it'll finally be implemented.

[Butz_san]

Originally Posted by Lex_Light

Well, I hope that my motherboard admits a decent dual-core processor and a decent graphics card.

you just need a very cheap dual core E5200 at 2.5 and do a single overclocking until 2.9 or 3.0Ghz on air and that's it. DeSmuME will run at full speed, also you need a cheap video card too. I got full speed and every single game I've tried

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[Silenus]

My max res on my laptop is 1366x768, so I can't never apply a filter or use a bigger window vertically.

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[Squall-Leonhart]

Originally Posted by BinarySlave

You are absolutely right here.
I forgot the most important optimizations: for compatibility and stability.
Which should be the first to be made IMHO.

@all
But nonetheless, crying for speed optimizations every time a new build sees the public isn't nice behaviour.
/ranting off

You have to know that with every new instruction supported or feature added a "proof of concept" phase comes first. Those are the builds you get for testing and reporting back for errors, compatibilty- or stability problems.
After this phase you can hope or gently ask for further speed optimizations.

Optimizing things for more "speed" not sure to be working correctly, and this every time, simply is a big waste of development time and motivation.

And it stays a fact, that not everything can be optimzed for more "speed" at all.

No ranting here, just to bring some more understanding into some minds.

If the cpu lacks SSE2, at this point. It has no business attempting to run anything over GBA.

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[Lex_Light]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

If the cpu lacks SSE2, at this point. It has no business attempting to run anything over GBA.

Agree with that; anyways, I can run any game with NO$GBA 2.6a and NO$Zoomer 2.3.0.2 on my cr**** PC.

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Originally Posted by Lex_Light

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18 November 2009, at 19:59 : Nevar forget.

[keypox]

sweet i like to see progress. I can only imagine where no$ would be rigth now if kept its active development up. It was like everymonth or so we got a new no$.

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