Cxbx compatibility list - Page 2

snickothemule · May 15th, 2008

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueshogun96

If you want to read your Xbox discs without a modded Xbox, check out this thread: Adaptor allows original xbox games to be read on pc - Emuforums.com

This is what I use to dump my games since my Debug Xbox is crapping out on me. Buy this drive, then flash it with the firmware, and you're all set. btw, if you find out you have any games using XDK 4361 or 4627-5028 (exclude 4831 games), let me know

Games with those XDK versions have been hard to come by. In the meantime, I'll see if I can surprise you with another game (hopefully)

Wicked! Thank you so much. I'll do my best to check what XDK numbers I got.

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SnoochyBoochies · June 23rd, 2008

Anyone know if Jet Set Radio Future works?

**shadow_tj** · June 23rd, 2008

if it is not in the list then its not playable...

thats why its called a compitibility list and shogun updates it frequently when new games are working.

SnoochyBoochies · June 24th, 2008

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Originally Posted by shadow_tj

if it is not in the list then its not playable...

thats why its called a compitibility list and shogun updates it frequently when new games are working.

ok i guess

NexXxus · June 24th, 2008

hmmm how can i check with what XDK the games are made? :s

edit:
Needed Dxbx xdktracker game lists.

nvm...

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**blueshogun96** · September 22nd, 2008

List Updated.

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bll0612 · November 6th, 2008

Why does only PAL version of Battlestar Galactica work? How about NTSC? Could anyone pl tell me what make NTSC version different? I thought PAL and NTSC are just regions, the structure of games are the same.

Sad, I only have NTSC version of this game.

. Is there any tool help me change NTSC version to PAL so that I can play it?

Last edited by bll0612; November 6th, 2008 at 11:52..

**shadow_tj** · November 6th, 2008

Wich version has the tested Battlestar gallectica
The xdk version wich has been reported in the xdktracker from dxbx has the battlestar galectica a xdk version of 1.0.5558.

thats a way lot higher then a turok xdk version thats a 4627.
prehaps the Pal version has been build with a lower xdk version.

Before i forget wich version of cxbx are you using ?

bll0612 · November 6th, 2008

Actually, I haven't tried it.
From this post:

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueshogun96

2. Battle Star Galactica
Status: (*PAL* Ingame, *NTSC* Intros)
Notes: Minor glitches. Crashes on x86 WBINVD instruction.
Screen(s): 1 2 3 4

btw, I just wanted to edit the list and show that only the PAL version of BattleStar Galactica works so far. I just bought the NTSC version this afternoon (along with 3 other games). Is anyone interested in seeing this run at all?

**shadow_tj** · November 6th, 2008

ok found some nice info from Bungie...

Re: Update "Tags" disk
here they explain why Halo pal and ntsc could not work together over the internet.

so probably more games have differances between Pal and Ntsc.

**blueshogun96** · November 6th, 2008

It's very rare that we get problems with games of different regions.

Cxbx can now run the NTSC version, but it's too slow to be playable either way. The problem was that the WBINVD instruction (x86) is located elsewhere inside the .xbe file. Martin's fix was only for the PAL version. I added the NTSC fix to skip it on my branch. I don't remember if I updated my branch since then (it's been a while, I need to do that soon), but it's easy to add if you have visual studio. If you open the source file Emu.cpp, you can look for Martin's Battlestar Galactica fix and add the location of the crash to skip the WBINVD opcode. If you need a better explanation, feel free to ask. Sorry, I forgot to update that detail.

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**patrickvl** · November 6th, 2008

Hi blue, nice to see you're still around.

Wouldn't it be much better to scan all code for illegal opcodes (like WBINVD), and patch them in one big swoop?
That way, no more game-specific patches are needed (at least, as far as illegal instructions are concerned).

If we would ever build generic opcode patching, we do need to make sure no data is damaged. Worst case, this would imply full-blown branch-analysis (like IDA pro does), but maybe there's an easier way... Any suggestions anyone?

I would suggest that this code-patching apparatus should also be used to fixup the FS register offsets, in order to eliminate the EmuSwap calls (and the LDT code that prevents Cxbx from running on Vista).

As a matter of fact, Wayo (a Dxbx team member) is already experimenting with this. We've got no concrete results yet but a few months ago, Robert Yates (another Dxbx team member) had already shown us a working prototype for this (!)

**blueshogun96** · November 8th, 2008

Thanks for the update. Sorry I don't have as much online time as I'd like (even though you see my name in the "Who's online list", chances are I'm afk and idling).

That might be a good idea, but the problem is that opcodes can be executed from almost any data section (CS and DS mainly) and that would be a lot of work (from my perspective). I recommend instead catching the proper exception code (this is done in Emu.cpp also) and patching it at runtime. It's easier than it sounds actually. So instead of identifying a hard coded address, just by reading the exception code (usually a code besides 0xC0000005) we can fix it at the current address stored in EIP (usually filling it with NOPs) and moving on regardless of it's location. That's my opinion.

Best wishes for Dxbx!

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DđNłE · December 20th, 2008

Hi um, sorry for asking it again, but I really like to play Oddworld Munch's Oddysee somehow. I got the game, I got an update disk for my Xbox 360 but the only problem is that I don't have a HDD for it. And it's really expensive here in Hungary. So I would like to ask, that if there is some way to be able to play it on my PC then very plz add it to the Cxbx amulator. Thank You.

**shadow_tj** · December 21st, 2008

very short answer to your question: NO

**patrickvl** · December 21st, 2008

First of all, it'd be better to start another topic than to revive an old one.
But besides that, as far as I know, the Cxbx developers are not taking requests. So, if you want to have support for 'Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee', you'd have to do it yourself.

There's a problem however : it's library versions are (taken from XdkTracker) :
D3D8 : 1.0.3925
D3DX8 : 1.0.3911
DMUSIC : 1.0.3941
DSOUND : 1.0.3936
LIBC : 1.0.3911
LIBCI : 1.0.3911
LIBCPMT : 1.0.3911
XAPILIB : 1.0.3911
XBOXKRNL : 1.0.3911
XGRAPHC : 1.0.3911

These are the oldest known XDK versions, which makes them not easy to find. This makes it problematic to analyze them, as having the actual XDK helps a lot in supporting a game.

the1morph · January 4th, 2009

ok... I'm new here... and I dare to ask

... can I emulate an xbox360 on my pc?... I want to play Halo 3

Can it be done? there is a way to play Halo 3 on PC?

imspecial · January 4th, 2009

no and there won't be for many years. You are better off waiting for bungie to port it to the pc or just playing it on your 360

Joe Finger-Eye · January 5th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by the1morph

ok... I'm new here... and I dare to ask

... can I emulate an xbox360 on my pc?... I want to play Halo 3

Can it be done? there is a way to play Halo 3 on PC?

Ugh. Moan. No, this is not possible. If you are interested in current gen emulation, check out Dolphin. It can emulate several wii games on powerful computers.

CxBx is still gives the best graphics and performance of any emulator I've ever used, of course, but it's only for one (ok, three) game(s).

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**shadow_tj** · January 5th, 2009

imspecial, 360 emulators will take a long time before they are there.
prehaps you can make a request to the ironbabel project, for xbox 360 emulation.

there are xextools and stuff but 360 is not that easy to get information from.
also is it not easy to setup a 360 to create homebrew stuff... there is not that much information about it.

When homebrew gets a head start yah will see more stuff is tried, until that best thing is to buy a original 360.

November 6th, 2008	#27 (permalink)
bll0612 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Haiphong Posts: 186	Why does only PAL version of Battlestar Galactica work? How about NTSC? Could anyone pl tell me what make NTSC version different? I thought PAL and NTSC are just regions, the structure of games are the same. Sad, I only have NTSC version of this game.. Is there any tool help me change NTSC version to PAL so that I can play it? Last edited by bll0612; November 6th, 2008 at 11:52..

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June 23rd, 2008	#22 (permalink)
SnoochyBoochies Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South London UK Posts: 13	Anyone know if Jet Set Radio Future works?

June 23rd, 2008	#23 (permalink)
shadow_tj Emu author Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 656	if it is not in the list then its not playable... thats why its called a compitibility list and shogun updates it frequently when new games are working.

June 24th, 2008	#25 (permalink)
NexXxus it'se miku! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cologne, Germany Posts: 3,604	hmmm how can i check with what XDK the games are made? :s edit: Needed Dxbx xdktracker game lists. nvm... __________________ My System: C2D E6700 @3.4ghz \| Asus P5W DH Deluxe \| 4GB DDR2 800 \| eVGA Geforce GTX 260 55nm SC-Edition Tutorial: Hardware Antialiasing in PCSX2 (DX9 only)

September 22nd, 2008	#26 (permalink)
blueshogun96 Emu author Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Unidentified Posts: 2,509	List Updated. __________________ [Sagat] Windows XP x64 Pro \| AMD Athlon 3000+ (~2.0GHz) \| NVIDIA GeForce 6600 PCI-E \| Realtek AC97 Audio \| 512MB Ram \| NVIDIA NForce 4-4X chipset \| Seagate HDD 160GB \| LG 8614 DVD-ROM \| HP DVD 1040d CD/DVD -/+ RW w/ LightScribe [Raylene] HP dv2000 \| Windows Vista Home Premium \| Intel Core2 Duo @2.2GHz \| NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS 128Mb (Dedicated) + 1264Mb (Shared) \| 3GB Ram \| 220GB HDD GeneralEmu - December 27, 2005 and beyond! Shogun3D Interactive (I try to update it every day now) Shogun's Cxbx Dev Blog

November 6th, 2008	#28 (permalink)
shadow_tj Emu author Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 656	Wich version has the tested Battlestar gallectica The xdk version wich has been reported in the xdktracker from dxbx has the battlestar galectica a xdk version of 1.0.5558. thats a way lot higher then a turok xdk version thats a 4627. prehaps the Pal version has been build with a lower xdk version. Before i forget wich version of cxbx are you using ?

November 6th, 2008	#30 (permalink)
shadow_tj Emu author Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 656	ok found some nice info from Bungie... Re: Update "Tags" disk here they explain why Halo pal and ntsc could not work together over the internet. so probably more games have differances between Pal and Ntsc.

November 6th, 2008	#31 (permalink)
blueshogun96 Emu author Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Unidentified Posts: 2,509	It's very rare that we get problems with games of different regions. Cxbx can now run the NTSC version, but it's too slow to be playable either way. The problem was that the WBINVD instruction (x86) is located elsewhere inside the .xbe file. Martin's fix was only for the PAL version. I added the NTSC fix to skip it on my branch. I don't remember if I updated my branch since then (it's been a while, I need to do that soon), but it's easy to add if you have visual studio. If you open the source file Emu.cpp, you can look for Martin's Battlestar Galactica fix and add the location of the crash to skip the WBINVD opcode. If you need a better explanation, feel free to ask. Sorry, I forgot to update that detail. __________________ [Sagat] Windows XP x64 Pro \| AMD Athlon 3000+ (~2.0GHz) \| NVIDIA GeForce 6600 PCI-E \| Realtek AC97 Audio \| 512MB Ram \| NVIDIA NForce 4-4X chipset \| Seagate HDD 160GB \| LG 8614 DVD-ROM \| HP DVD 1040d CD/DVD -/+ RW w/ LightScribe [Raylene] HP dv2000 \| Windows Vista Home Premium \| Intel Core2 Duo @2.2GHz \| NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS 128Mb (Dedicated) + 1264Mb (Shared) \| 3GB Ram \| 220GB HDD GeneralEmu - December 27, 2005 and beyond! Shogun3D Interactive (I try to update it every day now) Shogun's Cxbx Dev Blog

November 6th, 2008	#32 (permalink)
patrickvl Emu author Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 97	Hi blue, nice to see you're still around. Wouldn't it be much better to scan all code for illegal opcodes (like WBINVD), and patch them in one big swoop? That way, no more game-specific patches are needed (at least, as far as illegal instructions are concerned). If we would ever build generic opcode patching, we do need to make sure no data is damaged. Worst case, this would imply full-blown branch-analysis (like IDA pro does), but maybe there's an easier way... Any suggestions anyone? I would suggest that this code-patching apparatus should also be used to fixup the FS register offsets, in order to eliminate the EmuSwap calls (and the LDT code that prevents Cxbx from running on Vista). As a matter of fact, Wayo (a Dxbx team member) is already experimenting with this. We've got no concrete results yet but a few months ago, Robert Yates (another Dxbx team member) had already shown us a working prototype for this (!)

November 8th, 2008	#33 (permalink)
blueshogun96 Emu author Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Unidentified Posts: 2,509	Thanks for the update. Sorry I don't have as much online time as I'd like (even though you see my name in the "Who's online list", chances are I'm afk and idling). That might be a good idea, but the problem is that opcodes can be executed from almost any data section (CS and DS mainly) and that would be a lot of work (from my perspective). I recommend instead catching the proper exception code (this is done in Emu.cpp also) and patching it at runtime. It's easier than it sounds actually. So instead of identifying a hard coded address, just by reading the exception code (usually a code besides 0xC0000005) we can fix it at the current address stored in EIP (usually filling it with NOPs) and moving on regardless of it's location. That's my opinion. Best wishes for Dxbx! __________________ [Sagat] Windows XP x64 Pro \| AMD Athlon 3000+ (~2.0GHz) \| NVIDIA GeForce 6600 PCI-E \| Realtek AC97 Audio \| 512MB Ram \| NVIDIA NForce 4-4X chipset \| Seagate HDD 160GB \| LG 8614 DVD-ROM \| HP DVD 1040d CD/DVD -/+ RW w/ LightScribe [Raylene] HP dv2000 \| Windows Vista Home Premium \| Intel Core2 Duo @2.2GHz \| NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS 128Mb (Dedicated) + 1264Mb (Shared) \| 3GB Ram \| 220GB HDD GeneralEmu - December 27, 2005 and beyond! Shogun3D Interactive (I try to update it every day now) Shogun's Cxbx Dev Blog

December 20th, 2008	#34 (permalink)
DđNłE Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Hungary Posts: 1	Hi um, sorry for asking it again, but I really like to play Oddworld Munch's Oddysee somehow. I got the game, I got an update disk for my Xbox 360 but the only problem is that I don't have a HDD for it. And it's really expensive here in Hungary. So I would like to ask, that if there is some way to be able to play it on my PC then very plz add it to the Cxbx amulator. Thank You.

December 21st, 2008	#35 (permalink)
shadow_tj Emu author Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 656	very short answer to your question: NO

December 21st, 2008	#36 (permalink)
patrickvl Emu author Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 97	First of all, it'd be better to start another topic than to revive an old one. But besides that, as far as I know, the Cxbx developers are not taking requests. So, if you want to have support for 'Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee', you'd have to do it yourself. There's a problem however : it's library versions are (taken from XdkTracker) : D3D8 : 1.0.3925 D3DX8 : 1.0.3911 DMUSIC : 1.0.3941 DSOUND : 1.0.3936 LIBC : 1.0.3911 LIBCI : 1.0.3911 LIBCPMT : 1.0.3911 XAPILIB : 1.0.3911 XBOXKRNL : 1.0.3911 XGRAPHC : 1.0.3911 These are the oldest known XDK versions, which makes them not easy to find. This makes it problematic to analyze them, as having the actual XDK helps a lot in supporting a game.

January 4th, 2009	#37 (permalink)
the1morph Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Romania Posts: 1	ok... I'm new here... and I dare to ask ... can I emulate an xbox360 on my pc?... I want to play Halo 3 Can it be done? there is a way to play Halo 3 on PC?

January 4th, 2009	#38 (permalink)
imspecial Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: United States Posts: 67	no and there won't be for many years. You are better off waiting for bungie to port it to the pc or just playing it on your 360

January 5th, 2009	#40 (permalink)
shadow_tj Emu author Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 656	imspecial, 360 emulators will take a long time before they are there. prehaps you can make a request to the ironbabel project, for xbox 360 emulation. there are xextools and stuff but 360 is not that easy to get information from. also is it not easy to setup a 360 to create homebrew stuff... there is not that much information about it. When homebrew gets a head start yah will see more stuff is tried, until that best thing is to buy a original 360.