X-Box Drive in a PC?

KojiroTakenashi · June 29th, 2004

I know it's been done before, and that it's worked just fine in a PC...

So, I'm wondering if perhaps some time Cxbx will have an option to load data from an X-Box game disc itself, from the drive inside a PC?

Jldnr77 · June 29th, 2004

now that would be interesting....putting an xbox drive in a pc...

KojiroTakenashi · June 29th, 2004

Same cabling and everything. I remember about a year or two back some hardware review guys put the hard drive and DVD drive in a PC. There was something off about the hard drive (don't remember what it was right now...) but the DVD drive worked just fine...

EddyB43 · June 29th, 2004

The reason you can't simply dump an XBox disc in a PC is because it uses a proprietary file system. If someone developed a disc "driver" or application that could force your DVD drive to understand it, ripping a disc in your PC would be trivial.

The XBox HD also runs a modified file system, known as FAT32X. If you repartitioned the drive however, it would work just fine in a PC - naturally without any of the data that it had while in the XBox.

TirEoghainAbu · June 29th, 2004

xbox dvd drive uses a different power connecter to a pc dvd drive, it isnt a molex connecter, there may be converters but i have not seen one.

Hard drive can be changed ok, although, i dont think there is a FATX driver for windows, AFAIK, there is a fully functioning fatx driver for linux, and once unlocked, the filesystem can be read without any problem.

**shadow_tj** · June 29th, 2004

i got a xbox version 1,1
the dvd drive has yust a normal molux connection.
my drive was broken so i`m now working with a extern dvd drive.

mmm sometimes it isnt the best way... to mod a xbox..
was in a half year i broken the drive

proger · June 30th, 2004

Yes, the xbox dvd drive does have a diffrent power cable, BUT if you sat your xbox beside your pc, you could run the power cable to the xbox dvd drive.
My old dvd players "power block's' Output cable to its dvd drive happens to be the same cable.... and i think the same voltage....

TirEoghainAbu · June 30th, 2004

I think another problem is that, when people have tired this, they couldn't get a standard PC BIOS to recognise the drive.

I think I am going to try your idea and use xbox to provide power and use PC IDE cable. I will report back if I get a chance to do it, I am not all that hopeful though.

**ChaosCode** · June 30th, 2004

Im thinking the dvd player is just a normal dvd player and the way its being used is differnt. I meen think about it, it plays dvd movies so it has to work like a normal dvd player. maybe its more then a normal dvd player or maybe the drivers are just differnt. I do know M$ isn't going to make something like this easy or everyone would be doing it :oP

TirEoghainAbu · June 30th, 2004

AFAIK, the way it works is this, but don't quote me on it.

The drive's firmware wont allow it to interface with a standard PC BIOS, it has to be an xbox BIOS with the extra security checks and locks that that contains, so I think just putting the drive into a PC won't work.

The reason an xbox disc cannot be read in a PC is because when you put the disc into your standard DVD drive, your DVD drive reads TOC layer 1, which is the standard. Layer 1 contains a short DVD video promoting the XBOX. When you put this same disc in an xbox drive however, the xbox checks TOC layer 2, where the REAL TOC is located, AFAIK, no standard PC DVD-ROM will do this, as, it just isnt needed.

PentiumPro · July 1st, 2004

We really need some truthful and well-documented articles on these topics.

KojiroTakenashi · July 2nd, 2004

So...who's up for voiding their warranty?

**ChaosCode** · July 2nd, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Computertrendy

We really need some truthful and well-documented articles on these topics.

yup, got any?

June 29th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
KojiroTakenashi Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Un-reality. Posts: 102	X-Box Drive in a PC? I know it's been done before, and that it's worked just fine in a PC... So, I'm wondering if perhaps some time Cxbx will have an option to load data from an X-Box game disc itself, from the drive inside a PC? __________________ "Don't Panic"

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June 29th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
KojiroTakenashi Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Un-reality. Posts: 102	Same cabling and everything. I remember about a year or two back some hardware review guys put the hard drive and DVD drive in a PC. There was something off about the hard drive (don't remember what it was right now...) but the DVD drive worked just fine... __________________ "Don't Panic"

June 29th, 2004	#4 (permalink)
EddyB43 Old Gaming Guy Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: UK Posts: 93	The reason you can't simply dump an XBox disc in a PC is because it uses a proprietary file system. If someone developed a disc "driver" or application that could force your DVD drive to understand it, ripping a disc in your PC would be trivial. The XBox HD also runs a modified file system, known as FAT32X. If you repartitioned the drive however, it would work just fine in a PC - naturally without any of the data that it had while in the XBox. __________________ Athlon Thunderbird 1.4GHz 100FSB 384MB PC100 SDRAM GeForce4 Ti4600 128MB 120GB 7200rpm IBM and 60GB 5400rpm Maxtor IDE hard drives. Creative SB PCI128 LiteON 16x10x40 CD-RW and Samsung SD-616Q 16x DVD-ROM

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ChaosCode disassembler Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Somewere Posts: 869	Im thinking the dvd player is just a normal dvd player and the way its being used is differnt. I meen think about it, it plays dvd movies so it has to work like a normal dvd player. maybe its more then a normal dvd player or maybe the drivers are just differnt. I do know M$ isn't going to make something like this easy or everyone would be doing it :oP __________________ CPU: AMD 3000+ 64 VIDEO: GeForce 6800XT RAM: 2 gigs ddr 400 SOUND: SB LIVE HHD: 240 Gigs http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/05/08/20...id=180&tid=172 save the kids from the RETARDS of the world!!!!

June 29th, 2004	#5 (permalink)
TirEoghainAbu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 29	xbox dvd drive uses a different power connecter to a pc dvd drive, it isnt a molex connecter, there may be converters but i have not seen one. Hard drive can be changed ok, although, i dont think there is a FATX driver for windows, AFAIK, there is a fully functioning fatx driver for linux, and once unlocked, the filesystem can be read without any problem.

June 29th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
shadow_tj Emu author Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Netherlands Posts: 542	i got a xbox version 1,1 the dvd drive has yust a normal molux connection. my drive was broken so i`m now working with a extern dvd drive. mmm sometimes it isnt the best way... to mod a xbox.. was in a half year i broken the drive

June 30th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
proger Customized User Title Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: usa Posts: 346	Yes, the xbox dvd drive does have a diffrent power cable, BUT if you sat your xbox beside your pc, you could run the power cable to the xbox dvd drive. My old dvd players "power block's' Output cable to its dvd drive happens to be the same cable.... and i think the same voltage....

June 30th, 2004	#8 (permalink)
TirEoghainAbu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 29	I think another problem is that, when people have tired this, they couldn't get a standard PC BIOS to recognise the drive. I think I am going to try your idea and use xbox to provide power and use PC IDE cable. I will report back if I get a chance to do it, I am not all that hopeful though.

June 30th, 2004	#10 (permalink)
TirEoghainAbu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 29	AFAIK, the way it works is this, but don't quote me on it. The drive's firmware wont allow it to interface with a standard PC BIOS, it has to be an xbox BIOS with the extra security checks and locks that that contains, so I think just putting the drive into a PC won't work. The reason an xbox disc cannot be read in a PC is because when you put the disc into your standard DVD drive, your DVD drive reads TOC layer 1, which is the standard. Layer 1 contains a short DVD video promoting the XBOX. When you put this same disc in an xbox drive however, the xbox checks TOC layer 2, where the REAL TOC is located, AFAIK, no standard PC DVD-ROM will do this, as, it just isnt needed.

July 1st, 2004	#11 (permalink)
PentiumPro Leading the way. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Simi Valley, California. USA Posts: 777	We really need some truthful and well-documented articles on these topics. __________________ CPU: P4 3.0GHZ Prescott HT @3.6][MB: Asus P5LD2][RAM: 1GB][Video Card: ASUS EAX800/ I.E. Radeon X800 256MB][Optiwrite DVD+R/RW 8x][40GB WinXP SP2-OS][250GB SATA Storage(Full)][120GB EIDE Storage (Full)][160GB Sata Storage][And one badass case!]

July 2nd, 2004	#12 (permalink)
KojiroTakenashi Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Un-reality. Posts: 102	So...who's up for voiding their warranty? __________________ "Don't Panic"

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