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Old July 16th, 2003   #1 (permalink)
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xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

I know there's something in development right now that will either be a program with a bunch of code behind it, or a filesystem driver, or both. I went to a forum and a guy said he was putting the final touches on such a program/driver.If anyone wants to discuss this, or anyone gets some info about this, post away.TS, please leave this open.Hopefully, it WILL go somewhere.I think it would be a help to us all.

(EDIT) I don't know where the forum is anymore so, thats why I started this.
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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

anyone posting such a program will surely face the wrath of M$. They simply won't allow it to exisit. It would make pirating games way to easy.
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Good point.But if the guy said he did it...I dont pirate games man.I wouldn't want to do that whole copy and sell deal.That's crap.All I want to do is read them and play them.That's the only use I have for it. I can only hope...

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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

Caustik, you're the mastermind here.What do you know about this?

P.S. Is the driver that xbox uses in DVD-ROM firmware or on the HD?
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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

Xbox DVD's are read from the outside in, not like normal DVD's which are read from inside out. I do not know one single drive which can do this, so unless you take a Xbox DVD drive and modify it to work in PC, this will never work
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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

Yeah. Thats why a special driver is needed. Caustik could do it. He's a frickin' genious. Help us caustik, you're our only hope

Just kidding dude.I know you wouldn't. I'm just saying you have the skill.
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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

i dunno about drives spinning backwards, however if the data on the dvd could be read in raw format and dumped on your hard disk. Surely the information could be altered in such a way as to reverse it and perhaps build an iso, which could then be mounted with like daemon tools or something.
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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

No. Someone said something about that. You can't read any of the files on an xbox disc anyways.so, that wouldn't work.
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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

the drive does not spin backward and the discs cannot be dumped to common iso (aka ISO9660) and then loaded with daemon tools or smth like that. they use a proprietary format for xbox filesystem. but there are tools to see the content of such an image.
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I'm not talking about reading an image.I want an xdvdfs filesystem driver so I can read the discs with my DVD-ROM drive.I know one probably doesn't exist now, but in case it does or it will in the near future, I created this thread.
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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

what exactly does this do ?
anyone looked at this yet
http://sourceforge.net/projects/xbiso/
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That just extracts and lets you explore the contents of an xbox iso.It extracts them, assuming your drive can read xbox discs.which mine can't.
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I very seriously doubt you could do that... it requires heavy modification.... even if you could it would be extremely illegal... Caustik may be a genious, but he can't do the impossible.
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Are you talking about the filesystem driver TS?
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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

yeah....
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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

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what exactly does this do ?
anyone looked at this yet
http://sourceforge.net/projects/xbiso/
That is for readign Xiso format, not an Original Disk. It will read disks that have been dumped and reburned to dvd.

Everyone is also forgetting, it's not just the format of Xbox disks that keep them from being read in a PC. They are also encrypted and need a hash formula that is stored in the Xbox to be read correctly. (Like the Original DIVX, they were 128 bit encrypted and no one has been able to read one in a pc yet) The Xbox hardware can read it on the fly, because it is designed too. On A pc, just to decode on byte of data code in theory take months, just to determaine the hash byte used to decode that byte.

This is one of the reasons I don't think people should get there hopes up of EVER reading an xbox dvd on a PC. Demand isn't that high to do so, since it is very simple to just make the iso directly from the xbox.
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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

I believe I brought up the idea to dump the data of the xboxdvd backwards, then reverse it... I think this could be done in such a way... it's sort of primitive, at that. The only problem, the layers of the dvd, and how the computer would translate it... nevermind, in other words...

Oh, and what depence means by the original DIVX is the rental program that used special encryption on their DVDs... dpence is right. "No one should get their hopes up of ever reading an xbox dvd in a pc."
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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

"Never say never"

But since it seems impossible to read a Xbox disc in a PC there is little use for CXBX for retail games, since you must own a original Xbox to be able to copy the game to your pc. Since you own the Xbox, why not use it?
I understand that a Xbox emu is nothing like a C64 emu which can never get 100% accurate. I believe the Xbox emu can get 100%, except the drive.

The interresting thing would be to find out if the decryption is dont within the xbox drive or if it is done elsewhere in the Xbox. If it is within the drive, maybe you could mod the drive to work in a PC.
Buy a defective Xbox a steal the drive from it...
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erm, about the divx thinger, no-one else has been able to decode it because you cant really reverse it. Decrypting the info on an XBOX disc would be possible, because we can reverse it in this case, all it requires is someone with:
a) alot of time
b) alot of Xboxs
c) alot of self-determination and patients

and then it could be done, but thats just what I think, I could be wrong... Ah! Brain ache, to much thinking... oh well... oh yes, and to late, its already been done...

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Re: xdvdfs filesystem driver for windows

ok... we need someone with an immense knowledge in IO and device control to firgure this out...
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