can't read xbox games?

bendaman · July 10th, 2003

does it mean u cant even read the disc or u can read it but it's only like a few ks or mbs?

Gamer1 · July 10th, 2003

it means you can't play ANY commercial games... just homemade demos

**Kane** · July 10th, 2003

The X-box discs cannot be read in a regular CD/DVD drive.

Galway no Sora · July 10th, 2003

That DVD reads from outer to inner disc IIRC, rather than normal DVD ROM : inner to outer side.

gouki · July 11th, 2003

hmm i have no trouble extracting the files or iso off the x-box disc onto my pc ( using Xiso ) http://www.yursoft.com/index.php?pagina=xboxutils.php

( no x-box required )

do i have to have the dvd in my drive to play or can i just run the emu using iso/files on my hd ?

**caustik** · July 11th, 2003

gouki: you are reading the files off a *retail* disk on your pc with xiso? I really dont think so.

bendaman · July 11th, 2003

then my dvd drive can read xbox games

**caustik** · July 11th, 2003

This is almost 100% definately not true. Are you certain you arent just dumping the (~13MB) little DVD movie. (Every PC DVD drive can dump *that* part)

chaos4u · July 11th, 2003

It Looks Like Xiso And And Another One Called Gdf Image Are Capable Of Dumping Images And Writing Them To Dvds

But These Images Can Not Be Read On A Pc Because There Image Format (disc Format Is Not Supported )

But Assuming The Data Being Dumped Is Accurate And Apperntly It Is By Reading Forums Regarding These Programs ...

One Can Assume That A Driver Can Be Written That Will Translate The Image Format So A Pc Can Access It ...

But As It Stands Now Xiso And Gdf Image Are Only Good For Making Backups Of Xbox Games And These Programs Are Of No Use To Cxbx At This Time ....

bendaman · July 11th, 2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord Kane

The X-box discs cannot be read in a regular CD/DVD drive.

he said that u cant even read it but my dvd drive can read it

chaos4u · July 11th, 2003

thats really cool if your dvd drive is reading the contents of a xbox disk /image

im sure we would like to know the make and model of your dvd drive and any other details regarding your setup .

because its current thought that xbox disks are unreadable in pc's i.e. through explorer without the aid of some software

a screen shot of the of the discs content would be cool to

bendaman · July 11th, 2003

u see i dont have any xbox games but my friends do so i have to borrow it from him to take a screen shot

gouki · July 11th, 2003

perhaps i better clarify what i am doing, ( JLMS/liteon 166S dvdrom ( standard latest firmware )

my computer+explorer cannot see the contents of the dvd at all.

using this very easy tutorial: http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/extract-iso.php

xiso ( http://www.yursoft.com/index.php?pagina=xboxutils.php )can see the contents + extract the full contents ( just over 4 gigs ).this is how i applied the nude

patch to the default.xbe & datadvd.afs files from DOAXBV
( the link i provided translated from spanish to english w/alta vista expains it better )

somehow xiso can do this with whatever software it uses ( much like isobuster extracting a full dual layer dvd i guess )

my original question should have been can the games be played off the extracted iso only.

boo_se · July 11th, 2003

hmm... doesn't this mean that some code can be taken from xiso and implemented in cxbx to make it read retail games from the dvd?

Carnaby · July 11th, 2003

I'm right with gouki, Xiso can read any Xdvd disc with a standard Dvd-rom (without firmware update or other hardware modification).
You just need to run Xiso, select your dvd rom and click on "read XDVD".

**caustik** · July 11th, 2003

why dont you post *exactly* step by step what you click on xISP in order to do this

ShinAli · July 11th, 2003

I know for sure that xISO can indeed read the xdvd file FORMAT(such as a game backed up and burned regularly on a DVD/CD), but I don't know about retail discs.

d3tr0it · July 11th, 2003

Well we are talking about retail disc, right?..
It is not possibly to read the data of a retail xbox game disc with xiso unless the drive supports the discs. And you will never be able to read "any" type of discs in xbox dvd format with windows explorer.

As previusly stated ofcourse it is possibly to read ordinary cdr and dvdr written in xbox dvd format with xIso.

Say have you ever exchanged your xbox drive with another dvd drive. Are you then able to read original xbox game discs? no, but you can ofcourse read your burnt xbox dvds with homebrew software, that uses the xbox dvd format.

chipsugar · July 11th, 2003

My samsung sm 308b dvd/cdrw with firmware e101 can't read original xbox disks with or without xiso.

When I click on "Read XDVD" (the magnifying glass and cd by the drive model) xiso complains that "The inserted CD/DVD dont have a XBOX filesystem." wether or not there is a disk in the drive.

Perhaps it would read copies but it can't read originals for me.

mr.saraiva · July 12th, 2003

THIS tutorial (http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/samsung-616t.php) teachs how to replace your original xbox dvd drive with a samsung dvd-rom model 616t, and states that you will be able to read (after a firmware upgrade):

Quote:

...This drive will allow you to play games in the following formats: originals (Xbox brand), DVD-r, DVD-rw, CD-r, CD-rw.

so i asume that those lucky ones that got this drive, just need to upgrade the firmware (Samsung_SDG-605_firmware.zip) to be able to read xbox originals.

Well, that´s my 0.02.

July 10th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
bendaman Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4	can't read xbox games? does it mean u cant even read the disc or u can read it but it's only like a few ks or mbs?

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July 11th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
caustik Emu author Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 172	Re: can't read xbox games? gouki: you are reading the files off a retail disk on your pc with xiso? I really dont think so.

July 11th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
gouki Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 3	hmm i have no trouble extracting the files or iso off the x-box disc onto my pc ( using Xiso ) http://www.yursoft.com/index.php?pagina=xboxutils.php ( no x-box required ) do i have to have the dvd in my drive to play or can i just run the emu using iso/files on my hd ?

July 11th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
bendaman Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4	then my dvd drive can read xbox games

July 11th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
caustik Emu author Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 172	Re: can't read xbox games? This is almost 100% definately not true. Are you certain you arent just dumping the (~13MB) little DVD movie. (Every PC DVD drive can dump that part)

July 11th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
chaos4u Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2	Its Possible But They Cannot Be Read It Looks Like Xiso And And Another One Called Gdf Image Are Capable Of Dumping Images And Writing Them To Dvds But These Images Can Not Be Read On A Pc Because There Image Format (disc Format Is Not Supported ) But Assuming The Data Being Dumped Is Accurate And Apperntly It Is By Reading Forums Regarding These Programs ... One Can Assume That A Driver Can Be Written That Will Translate The Image Format So A Pc Can Access It ... But As It Stands Now Xiso And Gdf Image Are Only Good For Making Backups Of Xbox Games And These Programs Are Of No Use To Cxbx At This Time ....

July 11th, 2003	#11 (permalink)
chaos4u Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2	cool deal thats really cool if your dvd drive is reading the contents of a xbox disk /image im sure we would like to know the make and model of your dvd drive and any other details regarding your setup . because its current thought that xbox disks are unreadable in pc's i.e. through explorer without the aid of some software a screen shot of the of the discs content would be cool to

July 11th, 2003	#12 (permalink)
bendaman Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4	Re: can't read xbox games? u see i dont have any xbox games but my friends do so i have to borrow it from him to take a screen shot

July 11th, 2003	#13 (permalink)
gouki Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Zealand Posts: 3	perhaps i better clarify what i am doing, ( JLMS/liteon 166S dvdrom ( standard latest firmware ) my computer+explorer cannot see the contents of the dvd at all. using this very easy tutorial: http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/extract-iso.php xiso ( http://www.yursoft.com/index.php?pagina=xboxutils.php )can see the contents + extract the full contents ( just over 4 gigs ).this is how i applied the nude patch to the default.xbe & datadvd.afs files from DOAXBV ( the link i provided translated from spanish to english w/alta vista expains it better ) somehow xiso can do this with whatever software it uses ( much like isobuster extracting a full dual layer dvd i guess ) my original question should have been can the games be played off the extracted iso only. Last edited by gouki; July 11th, 2003 at 10:02.

July 11th, 2003	#14 (permalink)
boo_se Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 14	Re: can't read xbox games? hmm... doesn't this mean that some code can be taken from xiso and implemented in cxbx to make it read retail games from the dvd?

July 11th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
Carnaby Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4	I'm right with gouki, Xiso can read any Xdvd disc with a standard Dvd-rom (without firmware update or other hardware modification). You just need to run Xiso, select your dvd rom and click on "read XDVD".

July 11th, 2003	#16 (permalink)
caustik Emu author Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 172	Re: can't read xbox games? why dont you post exactly step by step what you click on xISP in order to do this

July 11th, 2003	#17 (permalink)
ShinAli Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 10	I know for sure that xISO can indeed read the xdvd file FORMAT(such as a game backed up and burned regularly on a DVD/CD), but I don't know about retail discs.

July 11th, 2003	#18 (permalink)
d3tr0it Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1	Well we are talking about retail disc, right?.. It is not possibly to read the data of a retail xbox game disc with xiso unless the drive supports the discs. And you will never be able to read "any" type of discs in xbox dvd format with windows explorer. As previusly stated ofcourse it is possibly to read ordinary cdr and dvdr written in xbox dvd format with xIso. Say have you ever exchanged your xbox drive with another dvd drive. Are you then able to read original xbox game discs? no, but you can ofcourse read your burnt xbox dvds with homebrew software, that uses the xbox dvd format.

July 11th, 2003	#19 (permalink)
chipsugar Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London, England Posts: 123	My samsung sm 308b dvd/cdrw with firmware e101 can't read original xbox disks with or without xiso. When I click on "Read XDVD" (the magnifying glass and cd by the drive model) xiso complains that "The inserted CD/DVD dont have a XBOX filesystem." wether or not there is a disk in the drive. Perhaps it would read copies but it can't read originals for me.

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