can't read xbox games? - Page 2

chipsugar · July 12th, 2003

Not quite. The drive would be able to read the disks if there was an app publicly available that could read them.

There are a few posts at the bottom of this link that may be of interest if you are thinking of flashing the samsung 616t.

http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/ind...t=10613&st=450

chi_nik · July 12th, 2003

OK. I don't get it. If i find firm wire for my dvd player it can read xbox dvd's right?

Galway no Sora · July 12th, 2003

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Originally Posted by chi_nik

OK. I don't get it. If i find firm wire for my dvd player it can read xbox dvd's right?

Not firm wire, but firmware. And of course the matching DVD ROM also needed. You can't put that firmware into another DVD ROM type.

jimmsta · July 13th, 2003

I wish someone would write a fake firmware/driver for reading the XDVD filesystem... Does anyone have a clue how to do that?

Galway no Sora · July 13th, 2003

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Originally Posted by jimmsta

I wish someone would write a fake firmware/driver for reading the XDVD filesystem... Does anyone have a clue how to do that?

OK, let me explain once again! Firmware is only specific to one type drive only ! For example Pionner 116 R firmware can only be used in Pionner DVD 116R only, not 117, 118, 118 or 120 !!! So ... it's till impossible.

jimmsta · July 13th, 2003

no. I what I mean is a driver that can direct any dvdrom/rw drive to read an XDVD - Make a standard xdvd filesystem reader. I can see a problem with that, yes - it would take a long time to create such a thing, - but think of the possibilities. Just force a drive to read the data backwards, and have the computer invert it back into a viable source. It's possible, - an XBOX DVD emulation driver.

chi_nik · July 13th, 2003

Ok thanks to you all. And does someone knows where to get the firmware for dvds (like a good database of dvd firmwares)?

Recycle

chi_nik · July 13th, 2003

I downloaded this firmware that it says that makes rpm or something like that to rpm1

dpence · July 13th, 2003

everyone should just forget about reading xbox dvd's ona pc for now, if/when such a way is developed it will be released, in the meantime, THERE IS NO WAY TO DO IT.
It's not a hard concept. No matter what Firmware your dirve has, you still can't read an original Xbox dvd. There is more to it than that. Besides. Even on the samsung drive, after flashing it, you still have to do some soldering just so the motor's turn the right way. Maybe an admin should make a sticky in big bold letters stating this. Before some start screwing up there DVD drives trying to flash them.

Galway no Sora · July 13th, 2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmsta

no. I what I mean is a driver that can direct any dvdrom/rw drive to read an XDVD - Make a standard xdvd filesystem reader. I can see a problem with that, yes - it would take a long time to create such a thing, - but think of the possibilities. Just force a drive to read the data backwards, and have the computer invert it back into a viable source. It's possible, - an XBOX DVD emulation driver.

Nah, thats what my point to. Universal firmware, may be a good idea, but I'm pretty sure that the creator may make the program for each DVD drive and that will cost hell time, since [once again] each DVD type must be flashed with it's type firmware.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chi_nik

Ok thanks to you all. And does someone knows where to get the firmware for dvds (like a good database of dvd firmwares)?

Recycle

Firmware for what? If for regionless [RPC1], get it here.

dpence · July 13th, 2003

There is no way to make a universal Firmware, there are Thousands of different CPU's, Flash rom, hard wired Rom, Micro Controllers, etc... used in Drives. It's impossible to make firmware that will work in all.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Galway no Sora

Nah, thats what my point to. Universal firmware, may be a good idea, but I'm pretty sure that the creator may make the program for each DVD drive and that will cost hell time, since [once again] each DVD type must be flashed with it's type firmware.

chi_nik · July 13th, 2003

Quote:
everyone should just forget about reading xbox dvd's ona pc for now, if/when such a way is developed it will be released, in the meantime, THERE IS NO WAY TO DO IT.
It's not a hard concept. No matter what Firmware your dirve has, you still can't read an original Xbox dvd.

So what you saying is that dvdroms (anytype) cannot read original Xbox dvds. If yes: a)What's the point of all this hard work to make xbox emulator for pc when you even cannot read xbox dvds on pc in first place? b)Are you working for micro$oft? If no: just say how to do it (if you know how).

TerrorShocked · July 13th, 2003

I updated the sticky with some more info regarding the firmware.... Do not ask where to get it for your drive..... chances are we don't know and it is a "grey area" by itself. It is a well known fact that PC DVD-ROMS cannot read retail Xbox games.... However from what I am seeing they can read "backup" or pirated copies of the games. Talking along these lines is strictly against forum rules... Read what DPence says about it... his information is accurate. Topic is locked for its own good.

July 12th, 2003	#21 (permalink)
chipsugar Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: London, England Posts: 126	Re: can't read xbox games? Not quite. The drive would be able to read the disks if there was an app publicly available that could read them. There are a few posts at the bottom of this link that may be of interest if you are thinking of flashing the samsung 616t. http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/ind...t=10613&st=450

July 12th, 2003	#22 (permalink)
chi_nik Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9	Re: can't read xbox games? OK. I don't get it. If i find firm wire for my dvd player it can read xbox dvd's right?

July 13th, 2003	#24 (permalink)
jimmsta Helper Monkey Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 42	Re: can't read xbox games? I wish someone would write a fake firmware/driver for reading the XDVD filesystem... Does anyone have a clue how to do that?

July 13th, 2003	#26 (permalink)
jimmsta Helper Monkey Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 42	Re: can't read xbox games? no. I what I mean is a driver that can direct any dvdrom/rw drive to read an XDVD - Make a standard xdvd filesystem reader. I can see a problem with that, yes - it would take a long time to create such a thing, - but think of the possibilities. Just force a drive to read the data backwards, and have the computer invert it back into a viable source. It's possible, - an XBOX DVD emulation driver.

July 13th, 2003	#28 (permalink)
chi_nik Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9	Re: can't read xbox games? I downloaded this firmware that it says that makes rpm or something like that to rpm1

July 13th, 2003	#27 (permalink)
chi_nik Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9	Ok thanks to you all. And does someone knows where to get the firmware for dvds (like a good database of dvd firmwares)? Recycle

July 13th, 2003	#29 (permalink)
dpence Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: USA Posts: 1,118	Re: can't read xbox games? everyone should just forget about reading xbox dvd's ona pc for now, if/when such a way is developed it will be released, in the meantime, THERE IS NO WAY TO DO IT. It's not a hard concept. No matter what Firmware your dirve has, you still can't read an original Xbox dvd. There is more to it than that. Besides. Even on the samsung drive, after flashing it, you still have to do some soldering just so the motor's turn the right way. Maybe an admin should make a sticky in big bold letters stating this. Before some start screwing up there DVD drives trying to flash them.

July 13th, 2003	#32 (permalink)
chi_nik Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 9	Re: can't read xbox games? Quote: everyone should just forget about reading xbox dvd's ona pc for now, if/when such a way is developed it will be released, in the meantime, THERE IS NO WAY TO DO IT. It's not a hard concept. No matter what Firmware your dirve has, you still can't read an original Xbox dvd. So what you saying is that dvdroms (anytype) cannot read original Xbox dvds. If yes: a)What's the point of all this hard work to make xbox emulator for pc when you even cannot read xbox dvds on pc in first place? b)Are you working for micro$oft? If no: just say how to do it (if you know how).

July 13th, 2003	#33 (permalink)
TerrorShocked Registered Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 839	I updated the sticky with some more info regarding the firmware.... Do not ask where to get it for your drive..... chances are we don't know and it is a "grey area" by itself. It is a well known fact that PC DVD-ROMS cannot read retail Xbox games.... However from what I am seeing they can read "backup" or pirated copies of the games. Talking along these lines is strictly against forum rules... Read what DPence says about it... his information is accurate. Topic is locked for its own good.

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