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Old May 30th, 2004   #1 (permalink)
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Chanka and Windows 2000

Well it's quite frustrating but it doesn't seem like Chanka can actually load games on Win2k, it runs the bios flawlessly and thats all. Although it can recognize the proper length of audio CDs, and I also got it to start ripped Doom for dreamcast (which mind you gets into an infinite loop of restarts, but at least it did SOMETHING!), no regular commerical games seem to run, they are all detected as 8 second audio CDs by the bios.

So far I've tried MvC2, SvC2, Utopia BootCD and virtua tennis, none worked. However, I did speak to at least one person who was able to get a game running on win2k on irc...

Well anyway this is the first program I've ever actually wanted to use that only runs on XP, and I loathe XP. is it likely the Win2k support could be fixed with a patch or a DLL? Would this possibly happen anytime soon? Should I just start installing an XP dualboot now? *drools over emulated MvC2

If you have any good advice please let it be known.
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I have Win2k, and Chankast works like a charm on it. Not only does my self-dumped bios run with 90 fps at all time (although I think it's much higher) on my machine, any game I've got backed-up that works in Chankast runs with 40-60 fps, 40 being the points with only few games where certain DC features aren't implemented all that well yet. Impressive for an Alpha.

When I just extracted my dc_bios.bin from my DC through a serial cable, it did exactly the same as yours. I needed to also extract my dc_flash.bin (regardless of the fact that chankast seems to create a useless one) and put it with the bios file, to fix the problem you described. Plus, the DC logo that was strangly red, changed into a comforting blue as I'm used to with my euro DC.
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I'm also on W2K, and I'm having mixed results. About 1/3 of my games ran (Gundam/Gundam DX, Ikaruga, Tokyo Extreme Racer, etc), but a majority of them would only be detected as Audio CDs (MvsC2, CvsS2, Power Stone 2, etc). I'm still unsure what is causing that. Maybe will try it on an XP installation one of these days.
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Guys, starting saying what Service Pack you are using of Windows 2000. I'm usin' 4 and it doesn't boot games.
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Win2K SP 4 + all critical updates from Windows Update. Some boots, others don't.

Also, just wondering, any of you have any ASPI layer installed? I have ForceASPI installed. DMA access enabled on all CD drives.
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i'm w2k but can't even load bios. just crashes when i click Init
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Quote:
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I'm also on W2K, and I'm having mixed results. About 1/3 of my games ran (Gundam/Gundam DX, Ikaruga, Tokyo Extreme Racer, etc), but a majority of them would only be detected as Audio CDs (MvsC2, CvsS2, Power Stone 2, etc). I'm still unsure what is causing that. Maybe will try it on an XP installation one of these days.
In that case, it could be I've been lucky so far. I haven't tried MvsC2, CvsS2, PS2, etc as I do no own them, but I do own Capcom vs SNK Pro, which I'll dump after Record of Lodoss War. Let's see if that one works.


I also have SP4 + every other critical update installed, I don't have ForceASPI or any other ASPI-related program installed, and all DVD/CD drives have DMA enabled.
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Chankast doesn't use ASPI so that isn't the problem. Unfortunally I don't have 2k so I can't help out more.
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Unfortunately no one seems to be able to answer this odd question.
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Well actually I can answer it.

Yesterday I installed XP on dual boot, now MvC2 and SvC2 both work o_O
On Win2k on the same comp, they didn't (yes Win2k SP4)

Unfortunately I havn't got any other games to work properly yet (Virtua Tennis with invisible players, SF3: Double Impact dumps you to bios after the logos, Berserk is recognized as an audio CD, SoulCalibur gives me an AV cable error) but its a good start.

In short, if you cant wait then you can resort to XP.
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Well said Bakou :P I dont know why people would be on a lower OS anyways still. XP is a lot more stable for the most part.
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Not than win2k. XP uses Win2k kernel, but made more compatible, what also means less stable. Win2k is more stable, but for a home use i prefer WinXP. Also, this is in alpha stage, maybe later versions will be more compatible, i think i read somewhere it was win2k compatible.
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Er, Windows XP is the meshing of 9x and the NT core (2000), the resulting mess being something with the stability of the NT kernel but the feature bloat of ME which can cause the OS to seem unstable. (How's that for a mouthful? ) Disable something like System Restore and you remove a lot of fragmenting of your hard drive.

If you disable the extra BS, XP looks a bit like Windows Server 2003 without the server. And please, no one ever mention the horrific travesty that was Windows ME. It induces nightmares beyond human imagination.

Posty: Windows 2000 is the first NT OS to not be a nightmare to manage and being built on NT, it has something the 9x core seems to lack: stability. Go ahead, try to bring it down with normal use. I'm sorry, but it's not a lesser OS. The lesser OS is 98 and under. I refuse to install XP because of the bloat; I'll take Server 2003 any day over it.

(Excuse the fire, but I hate when someone bags on an OS without knowledge of what they're talking about. In the ~7 months I've had this computer, 2000 has only managed to bluescreen once: during a game that has a known bug on my video card.)

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To this date I hate never blue screened in Windows XP. I only get supreme graphical errors in some games from what I'm guessing is driver issues and my graphics card. Occasionally I might lockup when I try to use some programs that have known bugs .

(I'm not saying Windows XP is more stable, I'm just saying that it is fairly stable)
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Er, Windows XP is the meshing of 9x and the NT core (2000), the resulting mess being something with the stability of the NT kernel but the feature bloat of ME which can cause the OS to seem unstable.
I realize we're slightly going off-topic here, but I still like to comment.

If you meant a mixture of the 9x core and the NT core, you are incorrect. ME is the only official hybrid where a base of the 9x core with NT implementations make up it's fundaments. If you mentioned 9x only regarding ME feature-wise, then by all means, excuse this post.

WinXP is fully running on a NT(5.1) core, with (as you said it additional bloatware, and minor changes in code which can lead to minor incompatibilities, of the likes Chankast is apparantly showing us right now.

I myself prefer Win2k.
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I also have win2k

I have win2k cause of my restore cd uses windows ME I have a alot of versions of XP but they just do not work on my PC I get bsods each time I try to install it (may be a problem with hardware I have)

But I to suffer the same fate with win2k and this emu it only loads to the bios and says the game I have loaded is a 8 sec audio cd this sux huge ballz
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bah... same old stuff everytime, if you took the time to read the english tutorial at www.chanka.org (in the chankast > downloads section) you would see that windows 2000 and below will not work with chankast. It clearly states that in the requirements.
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well thats BS they can take windows XP and put it were the sun does not shine for all I care

cause its very dumb to make a emu for only windows XP

cause most peeps do not have the money or a system that will take the coding like mine I fell that its a ram problem with mine and I do not feel like downgrading my system just for a emu
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This may only be for the alpha version... i think they will implement the code for windows 2000 or possible a dll file
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well they better

but I will just try it out on my bro's pc till then
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