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drafang96
October 9th, 2007, 05:37
Hello everybody !
My computer is quite old and I can't really play any 3d-graphic MMORPG games without lagging and I have no idea on how to make my computer better. So I decided to just buy me a new computer with everything new or atleast something that is very good. My best preference is a gamer - computer that will allow me to run PCSX2 which I think was a Pixel Shader 1.1 I'm not sure and can play 3d games with little lags or NO LAGS at all ^^ The cost for the computer or the components in total can be up to a total of $1,500. I hope you all can help with this for which I seriously have not much knowledge on computer >.< Thanks a lot ^_~

StriderVM
October 9th, 2007, 06:04
No LAGS on EVERY 3D Game on PCSX2?

Sadly, that hardware doesn't exist at the moment..... Sorry.... :(

runawayprisoner
October 9th, 2007, 06:32
No LAGS on EVERY 3D Game on PCSX2?

Sadly, that hardware doesn't exist at the moment..... Sorry.... :(

I DO wonder how those overtly overclocked rigs work with PCSX2... :p Maybe not all 3D games... but most may run well? And I bet it can play PS2 games for about 10 days before it explodes. :lol:

StriderVM
October 9th, 2007, 11:54
But those world record overclocks kill the processor in less than an hour....

At least thats what I remember about the Pentium 4 that was overclocked to 8Ghz. :D

refraction
October 9th, 2007, 12:13
my current rig runs 3d games reasonably well, not always 100% speed, but some games dont even come close :p

as for PC games, im yet to find a game which runs slow, even with the settings cranked.

guest.r
October 9th, 2007, 16:16
I advise you to buy a LCD with 1920 x 1200 pixels.

refraction
October 9th, 2007, 16:17
I advise you to buy a LCD with 1920 x 1200 pixels.

and that will effect speed how? :p

RPGW1ZaRD
October 9th, 2007, 16:31
Well a 3.75GHz C2D seems to be able to run pretty much all games at least at "playable" speeds but not full speed though that's for sure. If you used phase change cooling and had a Core 2 Duo @ 4.5GHz or so then results would be great but still not quite full speed in every game but probably 40+ FPS minimum tho. :D

But phase change cooling isn't really practical by any means and very expensive hehe.

tuanming
October 9th, 2007, 17:50
Naw, a 5Ghz Core 2 would do the trick. I'd expect it to do over 60 fps on all 3D games ;) @3.5Ghz pretty much any games is over 40 fps and under 60 fps...

drafang96
October 9th, 2007, 18:33
???
Not sure what is going but so far, I'm guessing a 5Ghz Core 2 is the best to be installed on a gaming computer? o.o If so, where can I buy them and if could, please give me a link. Thanks ^_^

tuanming
October 9th, 2007, 19:00
You can't buy a 5Ghz Core 2 because it doesn't exist. Overclocking is the only way to reach 5Ghz and the cooling device/hardware is really expensive, and it is not practical. Or if you move to Antarctica or anywhere that below freezing temperature you could have your system runing 24/7 @ 5Ghz... But in theory, it should be able to play @60 fps or more.

Cheesus
October 9th, 2007, 20:52
If you're going to buy a new pc, I'd suggest you wait till January. Early January a new set of dual core processors by intel called penryn are going to be released (They are claimed to be highly overclockable). Also the new Nvidia Geforce 9800GTX/S should have been released by then too, so even if you don't pick up one of them, it should lead to price cuts on older generation graphics cards.

runawayprisoner
October 9th, 2007, 23:49
Penryn CPUs benchmarked, don't slouch - Engadget (http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/18/penryn-cpus-benchmarked-dont-slouch/)

^= If PCSX2 supports SSE4, Penryn may get a performance boost that is... quite a bit higher than the normal C2D processors... otherwise, they are not even compatible to 3.5GHz C2D. :p 5GHz C2Ds are practical!... WITH ICE COOLING! :D Just put the hardware without the case into a refrigerator... and put some ice over the CPU... and that will do.

drafang96
October 10th, 2007, 01:02
Kewl ^^
Thanks for the nice tips guys :D
And Ice cooling...hmm...lol give it a shot xD

tuanming
October 10th, 2007, 02:33
Actually, the Penryn processors are faster a bit faster on the same clock frequency and probably more oc'ing friendly. Well, I won't be stuck @3.5Ghz for long, in about a month I'll get me one of those X38 or P35 board and try out my luck to see if this baby still got some juice left inside of her XD :evil:

Not to mention winter is weeks away; the perfect time and it's probably the favorite season of any overclocker :D And about the ice cooling solution... You have to refill them every few minute or so, or else it'd turn to boiling water :lol:

jonc2006
October 10th, 2007, 02:38
im no hardware guru but id suggest anything with a decent multi-core cpu and a card with dx10 support (not sure if that part really matters for ps2 emulation). if there is any hardcore weakness in my current setup, its the single core and dx9-only card(s) i have.

runawayprisoner
October 10th, 2007, 04:59
Actually, don't try the ice cooling. It eats up more power than you may think it usually does. :p It won't boil the water if you have a tube underneath the ice box to send heated water down to the cooler... and at the same time, pump more water up for the ice maker to pour into the ice box. :p

guest.r
October 10th, 2007, 05:53
and that will effect speed how? :p

He said he wants to spend some 1500$. If he had more cash he wouldn't ask such questions and would buy some alienware or dell pieces (i would if i had cash and no OC experience). :D

The 1920x1200 usualy have smaller pixels, can display nice and soft in 1280x800 and also other lower resolutions much better.

A decent (450-550EUR) model can assure superb gameplay in 960x600, 1280x800 and 1920x1200.

It's a friendly advice. :)

runawayprisoner
October 10th, 2007, 21:23
He said he wants to spend some 1500$. If he had more cash he wouldn't ask such questions and would buy some alienware or dell pieces (i would if i had cash and no OC experience). :D

The 1920x1200 usualy have smaller pixels, can display nice and soft in 1280x800 and also other lower resolutions much better.

A decent (450-550EUR) model can assure superb gameplay in 960x600, 1280x800 and 1920x1200.

It's a friendly advice. :)

Performance != Quality. :p

I myself have three monitors at that resolution... and they have a really HUGE impact on performance. :p

guest.r
October 11th, 2007, 16:09
Yep, they can look HUGE but the performance still depends from resolution used for gaming. :P

runawayprisoner
October 11th, 2007, 17:07
Or the performance used for photo editing and painting... :p