PS2 owners. Be Happy. We goin online

[ToM_E]

Here are some thingys that make ps2 the best. :)
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[ToM_E]

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[ToM_E]

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I went to www.ruliweb.com and just saw this. Im really shocked that Final Fantasy XI is already out. Final fantasy being a online game for the first time is really gonna be some nice game. :) 2 bad we gotta wait till may 2002 till we play the us version. :(

[ToM_E]

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[Ryos]

Are they supposed to be happy about high online costs?

[ToM_E]

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[ToM_E]

?! WE gotta PAY?! I dont think we gotta pay. But if we have to...oh well...I guess its worth paying to play.

[Ryos]

"The PlayOnline server will be free of charge in the first month, and will become pay-per-use in April 2002."

[Samor]

i don't pay for online play....

[vivrantpig]

keyboard looks a lil strange :eek: :P about da playonline thingy yeh if dey gunna make us pay den fuk it im not gunna buy it.

[takwu]

keyboard? that's the largest dualshock controller i've seen, hehe

yeah, YOU (and me, and a lot of people with common sense) are not paying for online game, but look at UO.

[DeepBlade]

playing online is sucha.. *money consuming* to do... I remember when TEN (total entertainment network) charged for online play... Guess what happened to them? they shut down or something... and renamed themselves to POGO and they got crap free online games to play now. I don't think FF 11 is gonna do well in sales if it's really expensive.. I think i'll only get it if it's REAAAAAALLY nice... if not, i'd rather just play something like Diablo 2 online, it's FREE

[Samor]

Originally posted by takwu
keyboard? that's the largest dualshock controller i've seen, hehe

yeah, YOU (and me, and a lot of people with common sense) are not paying for online game, but look at UO.

I wish those people good luck then! :p

[Ryos]

UO also isn't nearly the bandwidth hogger FF XI would be. There may be the will, but it's hard if there is no way.

[Metalmurphy]

FF XI is out already?!?!?!? Dammit... i guess i'll only playit while it free :p how much is it goin to be?

[Whoever]

Will it be possible to use that keyboard on a pc? Looks kinda cool and it may be good as a psx emulation controller.

[Ryos]

Oops, looks like my information was incorrect (there's a surprise -_-). At least for the moment, it does not appear like there will be any charges. However, I'd also like to point out Phantasy Star Online initially began as a free online game and Sega eventually ended up charging monthly fees. My guess is that as soon as Square has a large user base, they'll pull out an online pricing scheme. For some recent information on FF XI, check out http://www.coremagazine.com/news/5508.php3

[Esturk]

Of course they will sell more if it's free to play online. Look at Blizzard's Battle.net. It's free and has ****loads of people that play it!
By the way is XI only an online game? Or can it be played offline?

[ToM_E]

FF XI is an online game. :) No Offline I guess

[Metalmurphy]

That's bad... my phone bill will turn up with 5 more zeros at the end now...

They could put a Single Player option... it would even sell more.

[Ryos]

Unless Square has the world mostly on disks like with PSO, I highly doubt there will be an offline option for FF XI (which will be why it's the first FF I definitely will not be getting).

[Metalmurphy]

Yeah... :( That's the problem with online games. The same thing happend with Ultima. I wasn't able to play that great game :p

[FiReY]

Sucks for u, I don't think I will be getting FFXI either. The graphics are hardly stunning like in FFX. It was a bad idea to make an online game only. First off u have to pay to play online?? Let me ask u something..u already bought the freaken game and then u have to pay more money to play it??? Doesn't seem like a very smart move at all. ^-^

Originally posted by Metalmurphy
Yeah... :( That's the problem with online games. The same thing happend with Ultima. I wasn't able to play that great game :p

[Ryos]

It looks like Square changed its plans again. "SquareSoft has announced that its PlayOnline service will no longer incur a monthly fee. However, some of the products that will use the service, like the online RPG Final Fantasy XI, will still have its own monthly fees."

[ToM_E]

AWWWW SSUUUUCCCCKKKKSSSS!!! Every genius people who makes online games always make ppl pay. God...So greedy about money...

[FiReY]

Well at least that is better than what they had planed before. However I'm still not into knight and camalot thing that is going on in FFXI. ^-^

Originally posted by Ryos
It looks like Square changed its plans again. "SquareSoft has announced that its PlayOnline service will no longer incur a monthly fee. However, some of the products that will use the service, like the online RPG Final Fantasy XI, will still have its own monthly fees."

[Esturk]

I definately don't like the idea of paying for a game and then having to pay to play it. But oh well, just have to wait for XII.

[ToM_E]

That sucks...Blizzard games are free and its completely fun. Paying to play a great game like Final Fantasy would be very weird...

[FiReY]

I would suggest you don't get FFXI, its just one of those games where its not worth it. ^-^ I'm passing FFXI, and making room for FFXII. ^-^

Originally posted by ToM_E
That sucks...Blizzard games are free and its completely fun. Paying to play a great game like Final Fantasy would be very weird...

[carnage179]

Ok, If I got that, yeah right, I would have to:

Buy the game $100
Buy the ps2 internet thing $200(guessing)
Buy the keyboard? $75-100
Pay to play FFXI $$$
Pay my phone bill also$$$$$$

Square ***** You

[Ryos]

Actually, since they're also releasing a PC version, you wouldn't have to get the hardware. It's still a waste of money and time.

[vivi dude]

Why not wait for PSO v2 to come out for gamecube, ps2, pc and xbox? No offence, but PSO v2 is looking much more promising (realtime battles...) because of offline modes for leveling up and collecting items. Plus, the fee to play online is only $15 for THREE months.

[Abyss]

im not planning on buying the game... ill go at my friend's house and play it there LMAO

[Sylvan Sorrow]

well, I hear they might port this one to other things (like PC, so more people can play online.) my problem is, is there any way of hooking up a PS2 into a inhome netwoerk thats online, instead of using a phone line. cuz it would suck if I couldn't. Lastly I don't know what you are talking about that "per use" charge of playonline, as far as I hear, its monthly payment, $10 a month.

[ToM_E]

Originally posted by carnage179
Ok, If I got that, yeah right, I would have to:

Buy the game $100
Buy the ps2 internet thing $200(guessing)
Buy the keyboard? $75-100
Pay to play FFXI $$$
Pay my phone bill also$$$$$$

Square ***** You

Actually the Game is coming out on May 2002 and the ps2 harddive+broadband is coming out too. The game is $49.99 of course and the broadband harddrive is only $40. The keyboard around $50 or you can get the gameshark one I suppose and phone bill is the bad part. If the game is an addiction like ultima online was.... uh oh :eek:

[Esturk]

I thought broadband was highspeed? Cable, DSL etc. Am i wrong?

[Sylvan Sorrow]

still, we already have broadband, will I be able to hook my PS2 onto our inhome network using my own computer as a router?

[FiReY]

Probably not, I could be wrong because think about it for a second. Would they really make the PS2 compatible with PC hardware?? No I don't think so....so you would have to buy their hardware to play the game. ^-^

Originally posted by Ryoga
still, we already have broadband, will I be able to hook my PS2 onto our inhome network using my own computer as a router?

[Bgnome]

Originally posted by FiReY
Probably not, I could be wrong because think about it for a second. Would they really make the PS2 compatible with PC hardware?? No I don't think so....so you would have to buy their hardware to play the game. ^-^



you are dead wrong.

i have a ps2 and have been able to use a Gateway Usb keybord and my usb optical mouse just fine for the games that support them. I have also been able to use my gerneric usb hub.
As for broadband, if any of you had THPS3 you would know that the game is compatible with a good number of usb ethernet adapters such as 3com.
So, as it stands, the compatability issues lie mainly in the game and not the hardware. This may change once the harddrive is released, but at the moment, most generic usb peripherals will probably work depending on the game.

[Kane]

Online games work. I tried a couple. UO didn't seem right at all. AO had no decent trade skills and player interaction, and Everquest is just a little awkward to get into.

I don't doubt that square will pull off a masterpiece in FFXI. It won't have the plot that FF is synonymous, but I will be at least trying it. I want a MMORPG, but none of the ones out there at the mo interest me.

[ToM_E]

I would still pay for FF11 cause its a new game. Action RPG online. That sounds very exicinting and interesting. :)

[Ryos]

Originally posted by ToM_E
I would still pay for FF11 cause its a new game. Action RPG online. That sounds very exicinting and interesting. :) I see you haven't read my predicted FF XI excerpt. Nothing good can come from an MMORPG with a bunch of lamers.

[Bgnome]

Originally posted by Ryos
Nothing good can come from an MMORPG with a bunch of lamers.

*cough*money*cough*

[Ryos]

Originally posted by Bgnome
*cough*money*cough* That's good for Square, but that doesn't help the player of the game much. :p

[average_guy]

Originally posted by ToM_E
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I went to www.ruliweb.com and just saw this. Im really shocked that Final Fantasy XI is already out. Final fantasy being a online game for the first time is really gonna be some nice game. :) 2 bad we gotta wait till may 2002 till we play the us version. :(

do they have english version? that site made me blind.

[average_guy]

Originally posted by Ryos
Actually, since they're also releasing a PC version, you wouldn't have to get the hardware. It's still a waste of money and time.

how come square don't have pc version of FF IX and FF X but they will have FF XI???? ok, when it will come out? (FF XI) They will for sure lose tons of money because I would ....time to pirate... unless its on DVD, which i won't be spend another $1000 getting it.

[average_guy]

Originally posted by vivi dude
Why not wait for PSO v2 to come out for gamecube, ps2, pc and xbox? No offence, but PSO v2 is looking much more promising (realtime battles...) because of offline modes for leveling up and collecting items. Plus, the fee to play online is only $15 for THREE months.

do you mind to explain whats PSO and PSO v2? thanks

[average_guy]

Originally posted by ToM_E


Actually the Game is coming out on May 2002 and the ps2 harddive+broadband is coming out too. The game is $49.99 of course and the broadband harddrive is only $40. The keyboard around $50 or you can get the gameshark one I suppose and phone bill is the bad part. If the game is an addiction like ultima online was.... uh oh :eek:

I never heard such game, ultima online, what is it? post some screen shots or links to them, plz.

[takwu]

Originally posted by average_guy
do you mind to explain whats PSO and PSO v2? thanks
I'm not sure but maybe it's Phantasy Star Online? :innocent:

[Particleman]

Personally I don't think it's such a big deal to pay a monthly fee. I'm already doing it for several PC games, Anarchy Online, Shattered Galaxy, Dark Age of Camelot etc. I like the massively multiplayer games because with real people inhabiting it, it feels like a real living world with vast cities etc. It's a feeling that can't really be recreated with offline games. The only thing I don't like is the lack of involvement in storylines. Anyways, the reason why you don't need to pay to play games like Diablo and Starcraft is because when you actually play the game, the information is sent directly between computers and it doesn't use Blizzard's servers. All Blizzard provides is the match making service to hook you up with other players. However, massively multiplayer games, need servers which can handles thousands of players at once (not just the 8 or so you get in a game like starcraft), plus the stats and information for these players need to be stored on these servers. Running these servers takes money, if they only charged once, sooner or later, a few years down the road they would start to lose money since the servers cost money to run. Anyways, massively multiplayer isn't for everyone, but since I spend so much on games and hardware a month already, another 10 bucks or so just gets lost in the rest of the gaming expenses.

[takwu]

whoa, richy rich ;)

why can't we set up our own server and do it ourselves. remember, i used to play Quake II, and many servers (free) provide the game server and keep the stats for each individual.

on a second note: all of a sudden this thread reminds me of subspace... or something. you know, that little asteriod game with whole bunch of people online...

[Raqia]

Is that pic of the PC just running the out put from the PS2 to a monitor or a PC version of the game?

[ToM_E]

I dunno. :P I heard theres going to be a PC version too. And PSO=Phantasy Star Online (Dreamcast's best online rpg game)

[Hanamichi]

Originally posted by ToM_E


Actually the Game is coming out on May 2002 and the ps2 harddive+broadband is coming out too. The game is $49.99 of course and the broadband harddrive is only $40. The keyboard around $50 or you can get the gameshark one I suppose and phone bill is the bad part. If the game is an addiction like ultima online was.... uh oh :eek:

Broadband harddrive ?
I heard that theres somesort of a HardDrive for the PS2 , letting you install the game into it to shorten loading times ... anyone know anything about it ? ( So I can play GTA3 smoothly , dammit !)

[JuniorCRB]

bring on the online gaming, yeah the hardrive is kind of nice

[ToM_E]

Originally posted by Hanamichi


Broadband harddrive ?
I heard that theres somesort of a HardDrive for the PS2 , letting you install the game into it to shorten loading times ... anyone know anything about it ? ( So I can play GTA3 smoothly , dammit !)

In one of EGMS magazines it said the playstation harddrive and broadband adapter will be just one thing. Theres a pic of it. :)

[average_guy]

isn't that a regluar hd? how much does it cost me?

[JuniorCRB]

that pic explains alot

[Particleman]

If you ran your own server though, the world would feel deserted though. A massively multiplayer RPG doesn't consist of @ 32 ppl like first person shooters. I could just imagine a massively multiplayer RPG with just 32 ppl, you would be able to wander around for hours and not come accross another human since the worlds in these games are so huge. There are thousands of ppl on at a time. I doubt any of us have the bandwidth or processing power to handle that.

[Hanamichi]

Uh-oh . The warranty sticker is over my Expansion bay . What were the ^&&*$'s thinking ..... hmm , so i will be able to install games into the hard disk ? I wonder how though

[takwu]

Originally posted by Particleman
I doubt any of us have the bandwidth or processing power to handle that.
Ok sorry for the confusion. By "do it ourselves", I didn't mean the average Joe can host a huge game like that.

I mean any organization with enough resources can host their own server. And if a retail massively blah blah game can run on such custom servers, then it would be so cool.

You can have a different "virtual life" on each of them, but in similar environment, at the price of one game. Hey, I think I invented a new term again:
Virtual parallel universes (VPU)

[average_guy]

Like thats gona happen, even you some how manage to setup a sever of your own, what about the upkeeping cost?

[takwu]

So you STILL don't get it...

I meant to let other ORGANIZATIONS to host the game.
So you don't have to connect to the only server from the game developer itself.

Perhaps the game should have like a built-in feature for the host to put ads in the game. That'd attract more companies to adapt.

edit:
I'd rather see ads than pay a monthly fee.

[Cajunspirit]

I hope they don't charge us gamers!:(
I have never had the priviledge of online gaming!:(
I am really looking forward to FF XI.:(
Living in the Caribbean sucks when it cmes to the internet.:(
We pay for American DSL pices for 56k! and all we get is 3K!:eek:
What's worse is that 64k is 11,000 dollar's monthly!:mad:
Thats 1,100 pounds...:mad:
That seriosly sucks man!:mad:

[Bgnome]

free mmorpgs are like free food. its prolly not gonna happen. the only one i can think of is PSO and that just the old version.
if you want to experience them, you hafta go out and get a copy. i believe EQ and AC packages are pretty much free after rebate and i know ac has a free month, but like crack, you get addicted and end up shelling out your life savings..
i dont blame the guys tho.. if you have a way to get a ton of money real fast, why not?

[Particleman]

I think average_guy knows what you meant, he's just saying that there isn't going to be any "organizations" lining up to host something that requires as much upkeep and bandwidth as a massively multiplayer RPG. A massively multiplayer RPG requires in game actors, in game support etc. And even if it didn't need those things, the bandwidth, storage space, and processing power alone would stop any sane company from hosting one without charging a fee. Some companies such as WON.NET and D-Link run quake servers but like I said earlier, games like these require 1/1000th of the bandwidth and server space that a MMRPG needs. If you've never played a massively multiplayer RPG before, one of the first things you notice is that during the first week a game is released, the companie's servers are almost always bogged down to a snails pace, this is from the company that released the game! A company that bought or leased massive servers and loads of bandwidth, expecting a flood of players, and even that is usually not enough. A massively multiplayer RPG would take up pretty much all of a company's bandwidth and server usage, so I doubt any company would be willing to step up and host one for free.

[average_guy]

Originally posted by takwu
So you STILL don't get it...

I meant to let other ORGANIZATIONS to host the game.
So you don't have to connect to the only server from the game developer itself.

Perhaps the game should have like a built-in feature for the host to put ads in the game. That'd attract more companies to adapt.

edit:
I'd rather see ads than pay a monthly fee.

The ads don't always work,99.999% people don't click on ads, I don't click on ads unless i'm forced to do so. For 2 years on psxemu.com and ngemu.com i might clicked on those ads twice if not once.

[Hanamichi]

I click on adds that interest me like " endless pools " , " win a free creative audigy gamer " or stuff like that . IMO if the ads are interesting they'll work , no ?

[takwu]

the problem is internet ads are really cheesy. For movie ads they'll put in a big budget, for tv ads maybe a little less but still a budget, and magazine ads even less, then newspaper, freepapers ... and at the bottom we have the internet. (lost-a-dog posters are not ads ok?)

The effect: most ads are so uninteresting that most people simply ignore all ads on the internet.

Of course some ad banners are paid and very well done. Too bad the users just can't tell them apart (at a glance) from the enormous amount of cheesy banners.

so the "ads don't work" theory applies to that case. But in case of in-game ads, I don't know, haven't really seen it done yet.

[Hanamichi]

You'll see lots if you play Blizzard titles . IMO in-game ads are the worst , unless its something like getting free money or stuff like that since a person wouldnt want to look at ads in a gaming mood.

[takwu]

Blizzard titles... I didn't know. But are they online ads? If it's static, like the same ads every time you play, then it would get pretty boring.

[Esturk]

I know that on Battle.net there is one ad at the top of the screen in the chat area and that's about it.

[average_guy]

Originally posted by Esturk17
I know that on Battle.net there is one ad at the top of the screen in the chat area and that's about it.

their ads always about the newest games, such as warcraft 3 and stuff. I haven't clicked on those in years.

[Esturk]

Me neither. At least their advertising for their own games. Plus they're not annoying.

[Hanamichi]

There were ads on channels of every blizzard games , but luckily only one :)

[average_guy]

Originally posted by Hanamichi
There were ads on channels of every blizzard games , but luckily only one :)

you mean only 1 ad at a time. :p

[ToM_E]

Originally posted by vivi dude
Why not wait for PSO v2 to come out for gamecube, ps2, pc and xbox? No offence, but PSO v2 is looking much more promising (realtime battles...) because of offline modes for leveling up and collecting items. Plus, the fee to play online is only $15 for THREE months.

Guess this thread went dead. :P BTW I dont think PSO will be coming out for ps2. Only for PC,DC,XBOX,GC. I saw anything about pso on ps2.

[Hanamichi]

Offline play for leveling leads to gameplay like good old Diablo .

[Esturk]

In Diablo the character you use on Battle.net can not be used in single player mode.:)

[Xeven]

hmm, ffxi is purely online eh? !@#$%^&(ing squaresoft!!:mad:

[average_guy]

hey, most people like that

[Bgnome]

japanese pricing finalized:
game $60
rate $10/mo
$1 for every extra char
http://www.thegia.com/news/0203/n13a.html

[Hanamichi]

Originally posted by Esturk17
In Diablo the character you use on Battle.net can not be used in single player mode.:)

I meant Diablo1 , back then you could get killed in by cheaters from 10 screens away .

[Hanamichi]

Originally posted by Bgnome
japanese pricing finalized:
game $60
rate $10/mo
$1 for every extra char
http://www.thegia.com/news/0203/n13a.html

$1 for every extra char ? wth ?

[Esturk]

Originally posted by Hanamichi


I meant Diablo1 , back then you could get killed in by cheaters from 10 screens away .
I too was talking about Diablo1 too. I always make games with a password so that I can play by myself without those damn hackers killing me.

[Ryos]

Originally posted by Hanamichi
$1 for every extra char ? wth ? And just to clarify, that's ~$1 per character per month. Talk about a great way to deter people from trying out different characters. ;) And yet people are saying we'll be missing out on some great gaming with FF XI. Too bad. ;)

[Xeven]

well, whatever the reason why.. i still hate the idea of ffxi being purely online. Square just wants MORE money outta their games.. i hope it backfires by their sales going down instead.

[Ryos]

Originally posted by Xeven
well, whatever the reason why.. i still hate the idea of ffxi being purely online. Square just wants MORE money outta their games.. i hope it backfires by their sales going down instead. Since MMORPGs are hot right now, I suspect it will do very well...at least until everyone realizes a bunch of idiots are playing it.

[average_guy]

don't we all like online games more than single play games? that is, if you have internet and its free MMORPG

[Xeven]

we like games that have multiplayer options online.. we don't like purely online games.. ;)

[Ryos]

Originally posted by average_guy
don't we all like online games more than single play games? that is, if you have internet and its free MMORPG I don't like online games PERIOD, regardless of whether they're free or not. The enjoyment of an online RPG is based on how the rest of the players are. Since most players are lamers, the experience is the same. In a single player game, you aren't required to go fight with people you despise with a passion.

[Particleman]

The thing I like about online games is that they have much more replay value than non online games. Once I beat a single player PS1 or PS2 game, that's pretty much it for that game, I might feel like playing it again later a year or two later but even that usually doesn't happen. Playing with/against fellow humans adds unpredictibilty into the mix and keeps things fresh. I'm not saying that Online games are better than non online games or vice versa, just that Online games tend to last longer than the standard 1 week and then collect dust on the shelf.

[Kane]

The plot is normally quite thin, if existant at all. I like an RPG with a good plot, like FFT, or Chrono Trigger.

[Bgnome]

i was into asheron's call for a while and i believe that the game had a pretty deep story to it. since there wasnt really a plot since these types of games dont really end, you cant really discuss storyline but this game had a pretty developed "world history" and it was fun to try to find out more or become a part of it

[Hanamichi]

Yeah my friend played AC alot , and he recommended me to try it ... but not until I get fixed rate DSL end of this year ( currently our main isp charges USD$40 for 60 hours every month regardless of usage , and if you use more than 60 hours the rate is $0.01 per min. Lame , eh ? Heavy connection for light surfers .

[Esturk]

Wow that's pricey. My mom pays $40 canadian per month for unlimited Cable.

[Strider]

hmm, rogers charges $40 canadian per month, unlimited access, well for now anyways, i get by on an annual fee which ends up being a lot less, almost half the price

[average_guy]

I'm paying $22.99 a month for light speed, it doesn't tie up the phone line and its always connect, so its unlimit, but I can only download and upload at max of 15k/s

[Esturk]

The max download I've gotten was about 718Kb a second. Pretty good for the price we pay. The normal download is usually in the 300Ks area.

[NightSage]

Originally posted by ToM_E
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I went to www.ruliweb.com and just saw this. Im really shocked that Final Fantasy XI is already out. Final fantasy being a online game for the first time is really gonna be some nice game. :) 2 bad we gotta wait till may 2002 till we play the us version. :(

sorry to say it but from the looks of it it won't be out till 2003 i heard and also that its a pain in the arse to get it set up and download all the patches and what not well at least in jap it is ......... to find out more info you can go to www.gamespot.com they have articles about it

[chrono kid]

a ps2 game getting patches?
sounds freaky but wheres the patches go?

[NightSage]

on the hard drive am assuming

[OmniDistortion]

or the memory card... dreamcast did this with the VMU

edit: oh yeah and why are there patches? only for the PC port would they need it... or if there is hacking, (but wouldnt that be server-side patching/editing?) why the PC port and not the PS2? OSs compatibility ability errors... all kinds of computers so many different settings...it's not like that on the PS2...they are all the same! (thats why there are few errors or glitches in comparison to a PC game)

edit 2: if the patches are for the PS2 version...then...SHAME!
there shouldnt be and if there is then square is being LAZY!!!

[OmniDistortion]

Originally posted by Ryos
I don't like online games PERIOD, regardless of whether they're free or not. The enjoyment of an online RPG is based on how the rest of the players are. Since most players are lamers, the experience is the same. In a single player game, you aren't required to go fight with people you despise with a passion.

yes the experiance is all put into whether the players in the game make a it a good or bad one... most of the time a bad one... (but at least some of us get to play with our friends and its full-proof that no one hacked because its all online, yay!

[NightSage]

Originally posted by OmniDistortion
or the memory card... dreamcast did this with the VMU

edit: oh yeah and why are there patches? only for the PC port would they need it... or if there is hacking, (but wouldnt that be server-side patching/editing?) why the PC port and not the PS2? OSs compatibility ability errors... all kinds of computers so many different settings...it's not like that on the PS2...they are all the same! (thats why there are few errors or glitches in comparison to a PC game)

edit 2: if the patches are for the PS2 version...then...SHAME!
there shouldnt be and if there is then square is being LAZY!!!

patchs will always be there regardless and just becuase they patch it doesnt mean there are bugs..... from what i know square is patching the game so that they can add stuff or change things around for sake of balance

[S.SubZero]

Exactly. Patches will allow them to add content (and value) to the game. They could invent a weapon for introduction later, or maybe create specialized quests.. Maybe make some new monsters, or whole new towns. Remember, they are charging monthly. Part of collecting that fee involves keeping the content fresh and new. No sense ending up with some game you play for a month and get bored with.

MMORPG's are just this way.

[takwu]

How did this ancient thread get into screenshots forum??
S.SubZero you make it sound so wonderful... but wait and see what will happen.

[Kane]

I agree. Putting it in the game discussion forum.

[chrono kid]

Wonder if theirs gonna be something like an in game messageboard and that kinda stuff.
thatd be kewl