No$gba v2.4c released

[gdmk]

No$gba v2.4c some final details (mainly GUI and e-Reader related)
(*) no$gba/wifi can send/receive packets, commercial programs are still getting stuck somewhere in transmission. For example, with pictochat, slave machine(s) are realizing when a master machine is creating a chat room, but the slaves aren't sending response packets to the master. Probably due to some still undiscovered status/control bits. I've added a bunch of new info about wifi hardware in no$gba help text (debug version). Additional info on the missing bits and bytes would be very welcome!
01 July 2007 - version 2.4c
- web: updated ereader.zip package (using new bmp/raw/bin/ori/plus directives)
- ereader/a22i/japan: uses 8bit/16bit charset depending on invalid 8bit chars
- ereader/help: notes on non-vpk mode, and on z80-wait-opcodes, 5bit-card types
- ereader/a22i/jap/ori: inserts dummy-sub-titles, and z80-stub to start gba-code
- ereader/a22i: .ereader_create_bmp/raw/bin .ereader_japan_ori/plus directives
- debug: supports vert_splitter for code/stack sizing (instead outer-edges only)
- ereader/loader: supports multi/single .raw/.bin files (auto-converted to bmp)
- no$fmw: fixed dtcm/pal/oam zerofill init (memory wasn't mapped/enabled there)
- gui: added OFN_ENABLESIZING to all filemenues (win98 and up; ignored by win95)
- ereader/a22i: also creates RAW dotcode (multi-strip) (all strips in 1 file)
- debug: adjusts small-gamescreen size in nds-mode (256x192 instead of 240x160)
- bios-clone: 80x86-mode redirects nds-callback/gba-sound to rom-image (if any)
- gui: defaults .hlp window-width to correct 80 columns (not more, not less)


http://nocash.emubase.de/no$gba-w.zip

[Silenus]

Thanks for the info.

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

I bet morons are going to complain again.

[truba11a]

so wutd martin work on? wifi?

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Looks like mainly e-reader...no clue where the rest of the stuff is used.

[LightningLockey]

I've been playing that Zelda on your emulator (runs really well and graphically flawless form what I can tell), but there is an area I'm stuck at. Your suppose to actually blow on the system to blow out two candles that will open a door. Is that even possible to emulate now?

I'm shocked the thing is actually that advanced.

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

How to use mic for no$gba -- read! - Page 2 - Emuforums.com (http://iminvisable.com/index.php?q=aHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtcy5uZ2VtdS5jb20vbm8tZ2 JhLzg4Mjg3LWhvdy11c2UtbWljLW5vLWdiYS1yZWFkLTIuaHRt bA%3D%3D)

Try that LightningLockey....I am using a proxy so the link is a lil different.

[Dualscreenman]

A summary. He:
-Fixed some BIOS emulation errors.
-Touched up the GUI.
-Put the finishing touches on the E-Reader stuff.

Speed should be pretty much the same unless the BIOS bugs were causing slowdowns. (Not likely)
Compat might be a bit better, though.

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Well I have tried Spectrobes and Lost Magic sofar, which both have a crash/freeze making them unplayable and nothing changed.

edit:
Bah my cache is messing with me again...somehow I always encounter the old site...that's 2.4b again....I think it's going to take a while for me to get it again....eventhough the history of the site is updated this time.....

[Dualscreenman]

Hmm, well maybe it won't. Who knows how he found that bug. :P

[Rurik_Niall]

Hmm, was hoping some of that technobabble meant the fog would work now, oh well, every new release is a step in the right direction to full compatability. Also, when the WiFi is actually working, does anyone know if we'll need actual WiFi equipment? It doesn't seem like you should to me since doesn't it have to go through your computer and modem anyway?

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Sorry DualScreenMan...eventhough the history on site has updated for me the download has not....it's still 2.4b for me....probably going to take another day or two till it changes for me.

[ShakirMole]

Not bad gives gamers hope that it is still working and good work Martin.
Anyone give any info as to how much has compatibility increased?

[sigmax]

Nice news :D

[Hard core Rikki]

THIS thread should've been made HERE (http://forums.ngemu.com/emulation-news-submissions/91239-no-gba-v2-4c-released.html)instead. This one hardly looks like a support request.

[Dualscreenman]

This is really more of a discussion thread than an "announcement".

[Hiei-YYH]

lol no one yet arguing about speed increases or game x or y not working right XD

[LightningLockey]

Thanks shumi, though nothing saved for me in Zelda. The batter backup didn't work and trying to load save states result in "The rom-image has crashed" error. So gotta start from the very beginning. :(

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Save States don't work in any way, shape or form for DS games sofar so it's pointless to use them as backups...it is strange though that your backup was also corrupted....

[maximumrisk2004]

:thumb: Nice News.

Altough there are no improvements in the Emulation of the games this time, its nice to see it is gettin better and better. Im just asking myself if the next release will be without any 2D or 3D improvements either. But I guess we will just have to see. Can somebody tell me for whats the E-reader good? I know that its supposed to read gamecards for games. But i dont know any games for it and I dont have any idea how i should scan a card into the game.

Has anyone tried Animal Crossing:WW or Wario: Master of Disguise ? Due to the bugfixes in the Bios this games might be playable now.

[RockmanForte]

Nope, Wario: Master of Diguise ---> Same problem.

[Cooguy1212]

Anyone know if Pokemon goes any faster?

[Hiei-YYH]

Anyone know if Pokemon goes any faster?

it depends on your machine. in the future it will be faster of course, but for now slow pcs can't get good speeds.

I suggest ppl to buy video cards that have at least pixel shader 1.0, because probably most of effects will be using those shaders to get more playable speeds in future, vgas like the rockmanforte one will probably suffer (since there is no ps in that card) to render those effects. well, let's wait and see.

[Dualscreenman]

Coincidentally, I have almost the exact same model videocard as Rockman. :(
GeForce 4 MX 440.
No shaders of any form whatsoever, and it sucks.

Stay away from this card. It is obsolete!

[RockmanForte]

Must you have shaders for this emulator ? Can't be. O.o

[Dualscreenman]

You don't need shaders yet, anyway.

[RockmanForte]

Ahh, that's what I thought. It is not necessarily, I think.

[Hiei-YYH]

I'm not saying that the games will not run or something like that, but will not show all the elements in screen that a real ds show and have less performance.

[biguins]

but the ds don´t have shader??? né

[Hiei-YYH]

but the ds don´t have shader??? né

yes, n64 too. but some plugins uses shaders for a correct emulation ;) (since it's easier) got it?

[Foxfire Inferno]

So can I assume that I still don't need to shift into new compatibility topic mode yet? (Not complaining, but rather confirming.)
From the sounds of it, figuring out that missing link to perfecting the Wi-Fi emulation is gonna take a little bit of assistance from us. The e-reader gained the bulk of the update with the GUI and the debugger gaining updates here & there. Like I said before, it's good to see him working on all the other aspects of the NDS.
I'm kinda suprised myself that we haven't seen anyone go into a fit about compatibility yet, but maybe this is just the calm before the storm. I'm sure those one-minded people will be here soon.

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

Well sofar it looks like it...Spectrobes still freezes, Lost Magic still crashes and Wario is still as slow as ever, so no major improvements at least...and otherwise everything still looks and runs the same aswell that I have tried (which granted is not everything I have).

[sigmax]

no improvements on nds games oh well :(

[maximumrisk2004]

Maybe there are just no guys who are upset, because we discussed enough with the last release. I am pretty happy how it goes now and I cant wait to see what will have changed when Martin goes back to working on the 2D and 3D code. Would be pretty cool if Wi-fi works soon and maybe if we can in future go online with the Emulator. Do you think that is possible guys? Depends if the NDS sends informations about the Productnumder (or anything which is unique per DS), otherwise there would be nothing in the way to connect to the Nintendo Server.

[Dualscreenman]

The MAC address/ Nintendo WiFi ID is stored in the firmware, so as long as you have a firmware image it shouldn't be a problem.

[maximumrisk2004]

The MAC address/ Nintendo WiFi ID is stored in the firmware, so as long as you have a firmware image it shouldn't be a problem.

Yeah, but it will have to be a original one. If 3 use the same it will be a big problem then.

[Foxfire Inferno]

That's why it's crucial to have your own NDS's firmware and not share it with anyone. Otherwise, it's like 2 people trying to play the same online game with the same CD-key.

[Hiei-YYH]

or just hack the id and change it ;P (good for online cheating? who knows lol)

[Dark Mits]

I bet morons are going to complain again.
OMG, Y DAZ IT N0T R4N MEYE WEE GAMZ?!?11 DI5 5uKS0rZ!!


it depends on your machine. in the future it will be faster of course, but for now slow pcs can't get good speeds.
Surprising as it might be, there is not a great difference between my old 3.2GHz Celeron, 1GB RAM @266MHz Single Channel and Ati 9550 w/ 256MB than my new Athlon64 X2 4600+ @2.4GHz evaluated at 6.9GHz, 2GB RAM@667MHz Dual and GeForce 7600GT w/256MB. There were some areas (like Verity Lake) where NO$GBA would play at 51% and my new one only goes as much as 57%!

I haven't spotted any difference anywhere so far.

[Hiei-YYH]

i opened snk vs capcom card fighters ds and the emulator just crashed when loading the save data ;p works fine with old 2.4b

Surprising as it might be, there is not a great difference between my old 3.2GHz Celeron, 1GB RAM @266MHz Single Channel and Ati 9550 w/ 256MB than my new Athlon64 X2 4600+ @2.4GHz evaluated at 6.9GHz, 2GB RAM@667MHz Dual and GeForce 7600GT w/256MB. There were some areas (like Verity Lake) where NO$GBA would play at 51% and my new one only goes as much as 57%!

well, not sure about the 6.9ghz thing, my amd64 is 6000+ then probably is 10GHZ? :rotflmao: and video cards count too, mine is gfgtx8800

[RockmanForte]

i opened snk vs capcom card fighters ds and the emulator just crashed when loading the save data ;p works fine with old 2.4b


Really ? Mine didn't. Mine is 2.4c! :)

[Hiei-YYH]

Really ? Mine didn't. Mine is 2.4c! :)

luck of you, because where i am it CRASHES ;p

to be more specific, after the first boss.

[RockmanForte]

To be honest, I canceled it and exit no$gba and do it again. I am able to continue where I left without crashes.

[Abantao]

Can people now edit there Firmwire?? is more better to fix NDS Profiles

[Hiei-YYH]

Can people now edit there Firmwire?? is more better to fix NDS Profiles

you can edit your firmware, on your nds ;p then dump to your pc.

[Hard core Rikki]

or just hack the id and change it ;P (good for online cheating? who knows lol)


Could work if Wii only checked it only against the code generation algo, but since it'd be easily bypassable, let's assume it'll be checked against a list of issued codes for already manufactured and sold consoles, wich would beat such thinking.

[Hiei-YYH]

Could work if Wii only checked it only against the code generation algo, but since it'd be easily bypassable, let's assume it'll be checked against a list of issued codes for already manufactured and sold consoles, wich would beat such thinking.

lol beat such thinking? how do you think the cheaters unban themselves at nintendo wifi? :rotflmao:

nintendo wifi has no protection :rotflmao:

oh and I'm talking about nds not wii ;p

[Dark Mits]

Well, not sure about the 6.9ghz thing, my amd64 is 6000+ then probably is 10GHZ? :rotflmao: and video cards count too, mine is gfgtx8800
You can see the evaluation of your processor by going to System Requirements Labs (http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/).Run a test for any game, and you will see what your processor is evaluated at.

About the slow speed in Pokemon: I have to make a correction. The game DOES indeed run a lot smoother, since it doesn't need to use frameskip to keep up. However, it seems that it is currently a no$gba issue when it comes to 3d, because where there are trees it still can't keep up even with frameskip. My guess is that on your pc too Verity Lake should paly at around 60%.

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

srtest sometimes gives out bogus info....a week ago my CPU was failing the Oblivion test...not to mention the test are not too good since the specs are compared to game requirements...so he could pick one and get a perfect score and another were it might only be adequate or great.

[Dark Mits]

It seems to be working fine for me. Besides, I only mentioned the page because it "calculates" what speed your processor would be if it were single-threaded 32bit (even though I doubt such calculation is easy to do).

I fail the srtest on Halo 2, because I don't have Vista... Other than that I only fail the recommended on C&C3 because it also requires Vista, and I pass the recommended test of everything else.

We went off-topic!

Sonic Rush, New Super Mario Bros. and Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time also seem to be playing the same as with NO$GBA2.4b

[SmotPoker]

I don't believe C&C3 requires Windows Vista, at least it didn't for me.

[RockmanForte]

No more off topic, please ? :)

[ShakirMole]

this update is mainly an add on to wifi and ereader not much gaming on this one so don't think we are gonna see some changes

[raksmey1309]

Nice release i can see the future of DS emulation very clearly.

[Squall-Leonhart]

NoGBA requires
2mb save type emulation
and an Automaticly select save type feature (would save a fair amount of trouble)

other then that, its moving along nicely

[Dualscreenman]

It has 2 Mbit flash save emulation.
2 Mbit= 256 KB.

[Squall-Leonhart]

It has 2 Mbit flash save emulation.
2 Mbit= 256 KB.

excuse me while i headbut my keyboard rack for being to tired to actually work that out before.

[Gamroken]

thats weird i have a problem with Pokemon Diamond when i try to open the save it the screens turn into black

[Squall-Leonhart]

stop using a patched rom

[Gamroken]

im not using a patched rom

[Squall-Leonhart]

you must be.

[Hard core Rikki]

you must be.

HE didnt patch it. Conclusion ?

[Squall-Leonhart]

it means he downloaded a prepatched, or damaged rom.

as no one else is having this issue on the same settings.

conclusion ?

[Gamroken]

but the rom worked on 2.4b version

[maximumrisk2004]

but the rom worked on 2.4b version

Thats odd. oO

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

I suppose you have checked the Pokemon Bugs thread?

[Chris21]

Take my advice just get the rom again rename to your previous one and the emu open the save OR switch back to no$gba 2.4b. choose the first one cuz i think otherwise you mite not be able proceed with the better emu releases.

[Squall-Leonhart]

but the rom worked on 2.4b version

friend had a similar problem with another game, redownloading it fixed it, he downloaded one of the prepatched roms originally, which was the cause.

[Gamroken]

thanks a lot guys i fixed it somehow:D

[ShakirMole]

re downloaded it? doesn't that seem fishy...

[sigmax]

re downloaded it? doesn't that seem fishy...

man haven't you this post he alredy fix it

thanks a lot guys i fixed it somehow:D

[ShakirMole]

i was just talking about the concept of downloading roms but anyways let's keep going it aint gonna make a difference

[Gamroken]

does someone knows when the 2.4d or 2.5 version of the emulator are coming? and what new features they will have?

[Faehnchen]

No, noone knows. But I hope it comes soon, last version is a long tima ago :D

Fanchen

[ShakirMole]

well ppl usually tell u not to ask since it irritates the developers but don't worry sometimes it happens like once it was 3 months before another release was well... released so just keep it cool for now besides he is working on side features more at the moment so don't expect too much gaming improvement as the whole of Wifi is left

[sigmax]

The only person who knows when is gonna be release is the author so don't ask cause nobody on this forum know BE PATIENT AND WAIT:D

[Chris21]

But you gotta wait or sit at comp for days and try to develop your own emulator

Patience reaps golden fruits ... but sometimes you notice it is only gold coated or worse gold painted.

My 100th post... i feel like a centurion

[maximumrisk2004]

There is the thing that I dont think there is pretty much what the Author can do at the moment to perfect the other features. A few of them are depending on the Emulation itself too. Like the sound and micro support. Is the game slow, both of them are too. And wifi, it took pretty long till the VBALink version appeared and that is a easy connection in change to Wifi.

[ShakirMole]

i dont think wifi needs to be worked on at the moment becuz simple features and bugs like slowdown on MENUS i mean what is there to display tht causing tht much slowdown? so small fixes here and there would make big difference for many of us

[Lino]

I have tried some examples wifi of the palib but the wifi doesn't act.

[Hiei-YYH]

i dont think wifi needs to be worked on at the moment becuz simple features and bugs like slowdown on MENUS i mean what is there to display tht causing tht much slowdown? so small fixes here and there would make big difference for many of us

they work on what they want :evil:

slowdowns aren't caused by other "features" it's just unimplemented features/ not perfect cpu emulation or by your pc (low cpu/gpu power).

as i said many times, if you want the games to run 100% at 60fps, make you a favor and buy a nds.

[Dualscreenman]

That's not exactly what he meant, Hiei-YYH, but this person's English is so bad I had trouble reading it.

[ShakirMole]

lol for the english critic and yes am going to buy an nds but can't recieve it until dec 25th and obviously u know why...