please help ffx problem :(:(

[zaboomafoo]

hey guys, my name is martin and im from argentina so sorry for my rusty english
first i want to thank you all for making pcsx2, and pcsx2 community possible

ok, i have this problem, the game starts just fine, but then when i get to move tidus he just run slow like hell, like in slow-motion, tha game is running at 40 fps and the music plays fine, but he runs like a damn turtle!!

it doesnt make any difference if i change the graphics or cpu configuration :(

i think i have a high end pc so i dont think thats the problem:
intel core 2 duo e6600
corsair 2gb ddr 2 @ 800mhz
nvidia geforce 8800gtx

i have the european version of the game cause it has the new bosses, and the new sphere grid system
its a .iso file of 4.28gb

please, any help will be greatly appreciated

[raksmey1309]

Did u tick both MTGS and Dual Core mode and use ZeroGS Kosmos.

[zaboomafoo]

yup, thanks anyway

[tuanming]

Have you try uninstall and reinstall?

[StriderVM]

I suggest turning off extra features such as bilinear filtering and/or anti aliasing.

[Luxius]

It's quite normal, zaboom. I have the same experience. Turning off bilinear filtering and anti-aliasing can have great impact on that, though. Later on in the game you will have the same experience in speed delay, but it varies depending on how big the area is, and how many characters (PC and NPC) there are around you.

My specs:
AMD Athlon64 X2 3800+
2x512 MB Dual DDR400 Geil RAM
GeForce 7800GT

I've set CPU to "Limit FPS" and all boxes checked.
ZeroGS Kosmos

The rest is basic ...

[zaboomafoo]

nope, no difference at all, i tried turning off billinear filtering and antialisasing, and theres no difference, i also reinstall the emu but nothing, could it be a problem with the iso? or anyone here is playing the european version of the game??

come on ill say the location of jimmy hoffa body th the one who solve my problem

***** another problem, even with tidus running slow as hell, i get to the frist fmv sequence and the screen started showing random color lines, i could hear the sound, and when it was over the game continued like before...but ff's w/o fmvs is like pizza without cheese man, so any ideas?, first i want to solve the other problem cause the game its almost unplayable like this

[Artemix]

Martin:

Yo tambien soy de Argentina, me llamo Pablo, te comento, estos problemas que pasas son debido a que el emulador en cuestion no esta optimizado como deberia, asi que hasta otra version (1.0 ?) eso va a seguirte pasando, yo tengo la PC de la firma y aun asi hay ciertas partes donde los FPS bajan a 32, como cuando rebota la pelota de Wakka entre las pirañas que atacan a Tidus, con MTGS + DC ON, asi que no te hagas tanto drama, espera a una nueva version del emulador y listo.
No se que sucedera con el FFX-2 o el Grandia III, pero supongo que algo similar, es una lastima para los que queiren jugar un juego "como la gente"..

Pero entiendo tu problematica, ya que (al menos desde mi punto de vista) NO HAY rpgs DECENTEs para pc hoy en dia... si sale algo, avisame.

slds.-

Pd.: Sory for the ppl that cannot understand english, but MY english sux a lot... so, i prefer type like this :D

[tuanming]

Martin:

Yo tambien soy de Argentina, me llamo Pablo, te comento, estos problemas que pasas son debido a que el emulador en cuestion no esta optimizado como deberia, asi que hasta otra version (1.0 ?) eso va a seguirte pasando, yo tengo la PC de la firma y aun asi hay ciertas partes donde los FPS bajan a 32, como cuando rebota la pelota de Wakka entre las pirañas que atacan a Tidus, con MTGS + DC ON, asi que no te hagas tanto drama, espera a una nueva version del emulador y listo.
No se que sucedera con el FFX-2 o el Grandia III, pero supongo que algo similar, es una lastima para los que queiren jugar un juego "como la gente"..

Pero entiendo tu problematica, ya que (al menos desde mi punto de vista) NO HAY rpgs DECENTEs para pc hoy en dia... si sale algo, avisame.

slds.-

Pd.: Sory for the ppl that cannot understand english, but MY english sux a lot... so, i prefer type like this


LOL i used google translation. Let's see if this make sense...

Martin:

I also am of Argentina, am called Pablo, comment, these problems to you that you happen are because the emulator at issue not this optimized like deberia, so until another version (1,0) that goes to seguirte happening, I I have PC of company/signature and even so it has certain parts where FPS lower to 32, like when the ball of Wakka between pirañas bounces that attacks Tidus, with MTGS + DC ON, so you do not become as much drama, waits for a new version of the ready emulator and. That sucedera with the FFX-2 or Grandia III, but I suppose that something similar, it is one does not hurt for which queiren to play a game “like people”. But I understand your problematic one, since (at least from my point of view) THERE IS no rpgs Decent for PC nowadays… if it leaves something, avisame. slds. -

[zaboomafoo]

que bajon, toncs seria que todavia no actualizaron el emu o los plugins de video para que sean bien compatibles con la placa por ej, tendre que esperar entonces
y si un bajon, los rpgs de pc son una mierda, estoy jugando al oblivion y es cualqueira no tiene ni sentido subir de nivel porque no hay beneficio alguno...ademas es sumamente repetitivo, todo el tiempo lo mismo es

grax y a esperar entonces

translation:

what a letdown, so it seems that the emu or the 3d plugins are not yet optimized to work with my pc or my video card yet, so ill have to wait till the next release.
please pcsx2 team optimize next version for the new nvidia 8800gtx!!
offtopic: pc rpgs nowdays sucks, im playing oblivion and it has no meaning in leveling up and its damn repetitive.

thanks!

[Artemix]

Sese... es una lastima...

Yep... exactly... but i think someday (2009 maybe?) FFX and FFX-2 will be playable like a PC game... until that moment...

[Osakasan]

what a letdown, so it seems that the emu or the 3d plugins are not yet optimized to work with my pc or my video card yet, so ill have to wait till the next release.
please pcsx2 team optimize next version for the new nvidia 8800gtx!!
offtopic: pc rpgs nowdays sucks, im playing oblivion and it has no meaning in leveling up and its damn repetitive.
thanks!

IMHO ... to make full use of that graphics card 8800GTX, at least a 7 ghz of Core 2 Duo's ...
with even my system a 3.35 Ghz, even a 7900 GT is sufficient, the CPU is always been my bottle neck.

[zaboomafoo]

but then i should not have problems with my pc, i think my pc should be able to run ffx smoothly, and i only get 20-35 fps max in game, goes around 140 when i pause it
i think 25 fps average should be more than enough to play the game normal, but tidus is a turtle, and changes in settings bilinear filtering, aa, etc doesnt make differences

[Osakasan]

u are right ... i think there must be a problem with your setting. please check again.
in ffx i never had any fps below 45 fps (maybe there is, very little though) and mostly got 60-85 fps (bilinear off aa on most of the time).

[Barius]

Your problem with the FMVs is caused by Anti Aliasing. You must turn off AA during FMVs, it can be toggled during game-play using the F6 key.

As for your speed, I think it's pretty good considering you haven't overclocked your CPU. Osakasan's E6300 has been extremely overclocked according to his last post, so I would not compare your system with his.

One thing that may affect your speed is a setting in your computer BIOS (*not* the PCSX2 BIOS) called Virtualization. If you see this setting in your computer BIOS you should disable it.

[staytsame]

Yeah your CPU can be overclocked >3GB easily and you will get better FPS. But I think even in stock speed E6600 should do better than that. I'm thinking maybe cuz your video card compatibility with PCSX2?

[Rezolid]

Hi everyone! Guys, I need your help! I have a problem with FFX! When I run it with GSdx9 v0.9.0 everything seems to be ok 'till video starts! On the other side, when I try to use ZeroGS v0.96.0 videos r playing rather well, but there is such a mass of textures during the game, that I can't separate sky from ground! Sometimes there is no ground at all and all NPC r calmly flying in the air!

[Barius]

Do you have an international version of FFX? If so, what version?

Try pressing F9 while in game to enable/disable the FFX Hack setting.

[tuanming]

Hey zaboomafoo, do you have the latest driver for your G80? And if your driver is the latest version, it could be that the driver isn't fully mature yet and could possibly be the problem...

Sometime new product take awhile before the driver is fully optimized/matured. Since you're the only one in here who have a 8800GTX and nobody else has one yet...Why don't you try another graphic card and see what up.

[zaboomafoo]

thanks everyone, i tried turning virtualization off, but nothing happened, i have the last driver for my video card, and i would be please to try another graphic card, but i dont have another one

since we talked about overclockig, what speed do you advise me to overclock my 6600, keep in mind that i have the stock intel cooler fan, i dont have water cooling sys

ok the fmv problem was indeed aa, now i can see them but they look and sound pretty choppy, altough they get 32 fps average, i can live with that, now help me with turtle tidus, in some parts i get 47 fps in game (i know i should get more) but he still run very slow!

im currently in 32bits xp, im going to change to the x64 version, format, and see what happen, my last hope, the last stand against ps2 emulation lol

[tuanming]

For overclocking on stock cooling try a 3.0 - 3.2GHz. And as for Tidus the turtle...go borrow someone or your friend graphic card for testing and see if the graphic card was the problem or not ;) And maybe some screen shots as to where the slow part of the game with tidus and then people here at Pcsx forum can compare...Last thing to do is have a fresh windows and it should solve most computer problems..lol not sure about pcsx2 :D

[kinzuagolfer]

My understanding is that you wont get performance by using a 64 bit OS. Pcsx2 is only 32 bit. Not sure if it will run on 64 bit OS currently. The developers just might be working on 64 bit compatability for a future release. I would try it out but my work programs (AutoCAD) don't support 64 bit. So I won't be upgrading yet.

[Osakasan]

since we talked about overclockig, what speed do you advise me to overclock my 6600, keep in mind that i have the stock intel cooler fan, i dont have water cooling sys

ok the fmv problem was indeed aa, now i can see them but they look and sound pretty choppy, altough they get 32 fps average, i can live with that, now help me with turtle tidus, in some parts i get 47 fps in game (i know i should get more) but he still run very slow!

i'm using all stock fan & heatsink ... overclocking doesn't always means more heat generated. what i see in conroes / A64 is ... more voltage means more heat. u dont have to increase the voltage if its stable. Usually on 400 fsb conroe doesn't need any increase in voltage.
mine was currently at 478 fsb and 1.38v just to make sure it gets enough juice (stock 1.325, even at 478 primestable).
under full load ... 1.325v around 55 degrees celcius. 1.38v around 63 and 1.41 around 72 degrees

i suggest the fsb to 333 (3.0 Ghz) or even 400 (3.6Ghz) with no voltage increase (test it first with prime95 for 4-12 hours to make sure its stable)
also set your vmem to 2.2v or 2.3v to make sure it runs swiftly ...

[Hatman]

thanks everyone, i tried turning virtualization off, but nothing happened, i have the last driver for my video card, and i would be please to try another graphic card, but i dont have another one

since we talked about overclockig, what speed do you advise me to overclock my 6600, keep in mind that i have the stock intel cooler fan, i dont have water cooling sys

ok the fmv problem was indeed aa, now i can see them but they look and sound pretty choppy, altough they get 32 fps average, i can live with that, now help me with turtle tidus, in some parts i get 47 fps in game (i know i should get more) but he still run very slow!

im currently in 32bits xp, im going to change to the x64 version, format, and see what happen, my last hope, the last stand against ps2 emulation lol

You dont have the slightest clue about PS1/2 emulation it seems. Let me make this crystal clear.

1. You computer is NOT fast enough. None is.

2. You need constant 50 FPS or more to make a PAL game (since you mentioned its european) to run at full speed. And 60 for NTSC games. We're NOT talking about PC games here. Thats why Tidus runs slow at 25, the image seems fluent but the plain fact is the console runs the game at 50/60 FPS, and so the emulator has to do it too, eventually.

3. PCSX2 is a WORK IN PROGRESS. Goddamnit read the ****** manual. ITs not complete, it DOES have glichy videos, it DOES have glichy sound, it DOES have a crashes/bugs/errors and there is NO computer in the whole wide world sufficient to play all games at full speed.

[Artemix]

You almost make me cry T_T .....

Pd.: Ovbious thing....

[tuanming]

2. You need constant 50 FPS or more to make a PAL game (since you mentioned its european) to run at full speed. And 60 for NTSC games. We're NOT talking about PC games here. Thats why Tidus runs slow at 25, the image seems fluent but the plain fact is the console runs the game at 50/60 FPS, and so the emulator has to do it too, eventually.

His computer specs is much better than mine...especially that 8800GTX! and his rams too...And in FFX, Tidus run like a freaking cheetah from my specs! So it's clearly something is serious wrong here.

[zaboomafoo]

You dont have the slightest clue about PS1/2 emulation it seems. Let me make this crystal clear.

1. You computer is NOT fast enough. None is.

2. You need constant 50 FPS or more to make a PAL game (since you mentioned its european) to run at full speed. And 60 for NTSC games. We're NOT talking about PC games here. Thats why Tidus runs slow at 25, the image seems fluent but the plain fact is the console runs the game at 50/60 FPS, and so the emulator has to do it too, eventually.

3. PCSX2 is a WORK IN PROGRESS. Goddamnit read the ****** manual. ITs not complete, it DOES have glichy videos, it DOES have glichy sound, it DOES have a crashes/bugs/errors and there is NO computer in the whole wide world sufficient to play all games at full speed.


1-no i dont have the slightest idea, thats why im asking for help in forums smart guy

2-sorry but you are wrong here, my pc is more than enough to handle ffx

3-thanks, now i know why even with good fps tidus runs like that

4-i know its a work in progress but hey, if i could fix the fmvs problems by turning off aa, maybe there was a way to see them better.

and btw, be polite next time, you give the impression that you are an ******* talking like that

i almost forgot, here is the screen, bilinear off, aa off, but i get the same fps with everything on..so thats not the problem

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1190/dibujomy4.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dibujomy4.jpg)

[jief]

trying using task manager to see if pcsx2 gets the maximum cpu power while you play.
also, be sure not to press circle when you move since its the walk button.
you could always check that other plugins are also running on minimum options (i had lost some fps when i tried to run sound plugin on thread mode to record a video, but that might just be because i use onboard audio...)

[tuanming]

Here's the comparison. Cpu clocked at 2.45Ghz.

[zaboomafoo]

my cpu is 6600 @ 2.4
and i have better gfx and ram...thats imposiible, ffx hates me
thanks for the comparison tuanming

[thc]

8800GTX Defective (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4819) If this is not the case, Try running in fullscreen where 3D clocks are set (so GFX is faster)

[NexXxus]

@tuanming
why is your screen so crappy pixeled?

[tuanming]

@elitegamer

Because I'm using ZeroGS KOSMOS 0.96 with no bilinear filter and anti-aliasing and possibly because i used XG Warcat 6.11 graphic driver instead of the one from ATI? Or it could be my gfx card sux....

[Artemix]

After buying shuch a more than great videocard... te debe dar bronca no poder correrlo bien no? me imagino...

Por otro lado... hasta lo que lo pude jugar yo, el ffx es medio pedorro... no se si vale la pena tanto desgaste, pero por otro lado juegos como el FFXII y el Grandia III parecen mucho mas apetecibles desde el punto de vista del gameplay, no se, fijate vos, a mi me paso asi.

[zaboomafoo]

thc: thats not the prob i have a xfx and my sys doesnt restart alone.

artemix: se me la quiero cortar, y tenes razon o sea yo antes tenia la play 2, llegue a 12 horas de juego y como que me aburrio el ffx, pero porque lo comparaba con el vii y el viii seguro jajaja, ahora que lo compraro con el oblivion es bueno y lo quiero jugar :(

[General Plot]

Artemix and zamboomfoo: Keep it English ONLY here.;)