Metalheads unite

[Cid Highwind]

I know the metal fans here have somewhat taken over the other music thread, however I wanted to start a new one here to start a new discussion.

As some of you may know I create videos when I'm at concerts. Personally I think they're of relatively high quality, especially when compared to some you can find online. I decided to share them, however, I'm not really that experienced with compression and online hosting or setting up torrent trackers, so I decided to do things my way :p

My first video is a 3.25min during video taken from my last concert: Dragonforce 05/03/2006 The size of the file is 25mb. It's a DivX video, with the original sound data.

It's a shot from the song Fury of the Storm, it starts with the guitar solo and lasts till the end. See the readme for additional info.

Any feedback will be more than welcome.

I hope you guys enjoy it :)

Dragonforce - Fury of the Storm / Live from the Netherlands (home.planet.nl/~vos10272/music/Dragonforce 05-03-2006Fury.rar)

ps. I'm using our personal homepage thingie, so I'm limited to 1gb of traffic per month and a 50mb limit for the files :(

Edit 2: Link does NOT work anymore, I took down the file

[Celine]

You could torrent it, if your computer is on all the time.

[Cid Highwind]

I don't know how to do that, though someone might be able to explain it to me. And my computer usually isn't on all the time, at least not during nighttime when the ones from the states are online. Maybe for other videos I'll use that method :)

[MT]

I just LOVED the idea! :D
I'm in, count on me. :thumbsup:

[MaZa]

The KVLT is gathering.... :evil:

[Nevermore]

Hmmph.. *goes back to listen to his Nile cd he was currently listening*

[Cid Highwind]

Sorry to say this Nevermore, but atm I only have powermetal videos, if only I would've had this camera a couple of months earlier I would've had some Graveworm videos.

[Nevermore]

it's ok, I know that you will give us something more rocktasticly metalix0rz next time :)

HIGH HORNS! \m/

[Cid Highwind]

Well I've got stuff from Hammerfall, Sonata Arctica, Edguy and Symphorce, haven't seen any of the heavier stuff lately. I did a video.google.com search some time ago and must say it's a great source for metal videos, so you could try that.

Upcoming concerts: Rage & Freedom Call (2nd of April), and Sonata Arctica (April 28 and May 11), so I'll make sure to get some shots from those shows as well.

[hushypushy]

cool, downloading now. man, i love that type of metal but it still gives me a laugh everytime i hear any of those guys.

[Cid Highwind]

If funny voices make you laugh, you'll love Dragonforce :rolleyes:

I loved it when ZP was doing a really high part of a song, and Sam (lead guitar, black hair) grabbed his own balls. Drunk batard xD

[industrian]

If funny voices make you laugh, you'll love Dragonforce :rolleyes:

Whatever you do, don't listen to Freedom Call's "Warriors." If that song's intro got anymore cheesier, it would have been made here (http://www.gortsgoudacheese.bc.ca/). :D

[MaZa]

Very cool video, though bass drums were non-existent, but that is understandable. Its just a videocamera mic afterall!
Very nice pic quality and accurate sound compared to some blackmetal live-bootlegs i have: Video compressed to hell and audio nothing but screech distortion. :lol:

[industrian]

Here's my contribution. Found it on Google, :p .

Arch Enemy - Nemesis (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5813313488707350282&q=arch+enemy+nemesis)

This song kicks five different varieties of ass.

Rhapsody w/ Christopher Lee - Magic of the Wizard's Dream (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6627942078886512661&q=rhapsody+magic)

I prefer the Italian version.

That and Nightwish, Sleeping Sun. Both versions. =P They've started advertising on their site for a new singer btw.

Oceanborn version (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8000894824204633518&q=sleeping+sun)

New Version (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8378365891276905720&q=sleeping+sun)

[bakufu]

Woah, nice thread \,,/

Cid i prefer you warp back time and get those Graveworm videos or else...

Btw industrian, that Freedom Call's Warriors song, it's one of those songs you can only listen when you drunk.. VERY drunk.. Thou its funny, or perhaps hilarious would be better :D

[Cid Highwind]

Whatever you do, don't listen to Freedom Call's "Warriors." If that song's intro got anymore cheesier, it would have been made here (http://www.gortsgoudacheese.bc.ca/). :D
It's not like 'Vain Glory Opera' doesn't have a cheesy beginning, most ppl would think it's from Europe because it's a complete Final Countdown copy :p

Very cool video, though bass drums were non-existent, but that is understandable. Its just a videocamera mic afterall!
Very nice pic quality and accurate sound compared to some blackmetal live-bootlegs i have: Video compressed to hell and audio nothing but screech distortion. :lol:
When messing around with the equalizer in winamp you might be able to get some better bass out of it. I once recorded some stuff from Graveworm with my cellphone, it sounds hella funny, you only heard noise, and Stefan's voice on top of that :lol:

Great videos industrian. That song by Arch Enemy is awesome, kinda freaky to see a chick 'sing' that way, their drummer is pretty quick with the feet.

Personally I'm not into Nightwish that much, whenever I hear a female sing that high it gets on my nerves and I long for a evil sounding counterpart. And I once heard some live songs of Nightwish and the voice of that guy makes my ears bleed.

[Mad]

Get yourselves some In Flames.
I know bositman will agree with me ;)

[Cid Highwind]

I found a nice FMV while doing a search on Dragonland videos: link (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8914530197432058350&q=dragonland) I like this band a lot, I can recommend it if you like fast powermetal with a fantasy theme. Their lyrics are a lot better than Dragonforce's and their music isn't as chaotic and guitarsolo-focused.

[MT]

Yay, just downloaded the video. Nice quality of video, good sound. Amuzing work Cid! ^_^

[Chrono Archangel]

Ahhh sweet Cid. I'll watch this once the downlaod finishes. Can't wait to see DragonForce on April 29th :D

[Death Metal]

That and Nightwish, Sleeping Sun. Both versions. =P They've started advertising on their site for a new singer btw.
I know this is a lazy question from me, but is it true that she was sort of "fired" from the band? That was a bit sad to hear.

[Mako Eyes]

I know this is a lazy question from me, but is it true that she was sort of "fired" from the band? That was a bit sad to hear.

Yup, it's true. Tarja was classified as a "guest singer."

The other guys let her go because she started getting greedy or something. It sucks though, she has one HELL of a voice.

[Chrono Archangel]

Indeed....kinda sad... Nightwish was one hell of a band. I just hope they can find someone as good, or better than Tarja.

[Cid Highwind]

Yup she got kicked out of the band, it was said she didn't even travel with the band anymore but she took a seperate plane with her husband. I never got into Nightwish a lot, maybe I'll like their studio work a bit better than live. The only song I really like of them is 'The Beauty and the Beast (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1819774249177396494&q=nightwish)' :bow:

Glad to hear you were able to DL it as well Mire :D

[industrian]

Tarja had become too big for the band IMO.

I saw the video Cid, the solos were quite crazy. :D

[Cid Highwind]

Heh, I like the guest singer ;)

But the rest of the song was pretty good as well, but Tarja just doesn't have the kind of voice I like, she sounds too much like an opera singer. Just a matter of taste I guess.

[industrian]

Time for some X-Japan.

Tears (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3264559741902959423&q=tears+japan)

Dahlia (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4368088304168180345&q=x+japan)

Endless Rain - Live (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4305474449693589013&q=x+japan) - aka one of my favourite songs.

Forever Love - Last Live (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2057255096727767753&q=x+japan)

X-Japan rule.

[Cid Highwind]

Say, to please some of the lovers of the harder stuff, and to motivate some of you guys to see their shows, would it be allowed to link to a concert of Graveworm we recorded through a mike? Please let me know if it can be done in public, or has to be done in secret ;)

Btw, MaZa, I think you know which concert I'm talking about.

/Cid is going to watch the X Japan videos

Edit:

Wow.... endless rain... that video really impressed me, the end of the song really touched me, beautiful song.

But what's with the emotional stuff during Forever Love? Was it a special concert, or has it been written for a special event in one's life? The song starts with a pretty nice drum solo ;)

[MaZa]

Yup, i remember it. It was quite good, except i no longer have it thanks to frigging reformat. I forgot to take backup! :cuss2:




Interesting. This is first time i have seen remastered version of Sleeping Sun. Im not exactly nightwish fan, but sleeping sun is really beautifull ballad. I think they butchered it badly! Tarjas voice isnt even close to her original omnipotent and operatic voice. Why the heck they wanted to try singing in normal female singing voice? Oh well...

[MaZa]

Here are some.

Dark Funeral - An Apprentice Of Satan, original version. One of my fav norsecore blackmetal songs. Slow breakdown riff, while simple, is really catchy and atmospheric.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9132428497492840380&q=Dark+Funeral



Strapping Young Lad. Braindead trashing to the end. Quite silly actually. :lol:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=912243387136540223&q=Strapping+Young+Lad




JIM CARREY IN CANNIBAL CORPSE!!!! I remember the cannibal corpse part in Ace Ventura, but i had no idea that it was supposed to be originally longer. A deleted scene it seems.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6020618890589721136&q=Cannibal+Corpse


Here is the Cannibal Corpse - Hammer Smashed Face, without jim carrey this time. :)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4152432685029935586&q=Cannibal+Corpse


Derek Roddy from Hate Eternal (and played in Nile too?), one of most versatile (and my fav) drummers i know.

Jamming in solo. Fantastic cymbal working too.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8754606824110210562&q=Derek+Roddy

Playing song Behold Judas in studio.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2027287488920990878&q=Derek+Roddy

[hushypushy]

yeah, Maza, if you have the ace ventura DVD it has the extended clip. it's hilarious. apparently, carrey himself wanted cannibal corpse to be in there, he is a huge fan. hammer smashed face ftw!

[MaZa]

I have only seen Ace Venture in TV and VCR, about hundred times. Never bothered to buy dvd versions. Anyway, its really hilarious movie. Never realised that Jim Carrey would be CC fan though! oO

[hushypushy]

heh, yeah, that's why its even more funny. like whatshisname from Morbid Angel is a huge ass Sailor Moon and Quake fan. he has a Quake clan called the Sailor Stars, or some crap like that :lol:

[MaZa]

heh, yeah, that's why its even more funny. like whatshisname from Morbid Angel is a huge ass Sailor Moon and Quake fan. he has a Quake clan called the Sailor Stars, or some crap like that :lol:




O_O!!!!!!!!


*Imagines hardcore, scary looking brutal deathmetaller sitting down and relaxing with Sailormoon marathon after long, moshpit filled live-gig* :spit:

[industrian]

Wow.... endless rain... that video really impressed me, the end of the song really touched me, beautiful song.

But what's with the emotional stuff during Forever Love? Was it a special concert, or has it been written for a special event in one's life? The song starts with a pretty nice drum solo ;)

That Forever Love was taken from their "Last Live" - their last show ever. The DVD of it moves me to tears. You'll never hear a band like that again.

And yeah, Yoshiki is a badass drummer/pianist/composer. :D

Another couple

Weekend (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7381647062599170872&q=x+japan) - check out how the 80s affected Japan, :D .

And if you want EPIC. Check this song out.

Art of Life (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7888008379334163780&q=x+japan). 34 minutes long, btw.

Another thing, check this out. Awesome.

[Cid Highwind]

Whoah, nice cd mate :D

I will watch that epic song another day, don't have the time for it atm.

Tonight I will upload a new video, so get Fury of The Storm while you can, cause tonight it's time for Operation Ground and Pound.

[industrian]

It's "Command to Charge" by Suidakra. Best album of 2005.

Talking of albums, what is everyone looking forward to in 2006? For me it's:

Suidakra - "Caledonia". A concept album based on Scotland's history. I'm sure they read my mind about this one.
Manowar's new album. Get well soon Karl Logan. "King of Kings" was awesome.
Rick Rubin's Metallica album. I lost all my faith with them as soon as I heard Hetfield say "My lifestyle determines my deathstyle" but ... it's RICK RUBIN!

Tarot have released remasters of their works as well. No more will we be held to ransom on eBay.

And speaking of Tarot...

Wings of Darkness (Live) (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7672786226987685996&)

[Cid Highwind]

So far the only thing I'm looking out for is the release of Sonata Arctica's new live DVD+cd For the sake of Revenge (http://www.nuclearblast.de/band_showa.php?action=disco&artist=682&catid=NB%201618&show=0&id=1254). I already heard some low quality samples at the Nuclear Blast website and Tony's vocals were simply amazing. He even managed to pull off 8th Commandment with a clear voice oO OTOH I also heard some things that didn't sound right to me, but I'll judge that later when I have the whole dvd.

[flowrent]

oOoH ,Tarja got kicked in the behind over the hills and far away :D
Too bad ,she was really a symbol for Nightwish.

[industrian]

I'm just hoping that they don't "do a Priest." As in, they get an imitator instead of an innovator.

[L.h.]

I just love swedish bands like Messuggah and Opeth. N/A bands like Zao I find awsome.

[industrian]

Just thought I'd share these with you. :D

What (metal) posters does everyone else here have?

[Cid Highwind]

I've got my Graveworm poster ofcourse :D

Still looking for a nice Sonata Arctica one with a proper colour scheme that fits my room. I wanted to get the Takatalvi one because of its blue colour, but it was sold out. The artwork of their dvd rocks as well.

[industrian]

I have a BIG-ASS (no seriously, it takes up like an entire wall) poster of Metallica back in their "...And Justice For All" days. No room for it though.

Nothing beats Manowar posters though. Funny looks guaranteed.

[MT]

Nothing beats Manowar posters though. Funny looks guaranteed.
Yay, I say the same! :D

[Cid Highwind]

Hey guys, here's another release by yours truly.

This time it's the other video taken from the Dragonforce gig, from the song Operation Ground and Pound. Be sure to check it for the screams of their new bassist Fred (Frédéric) cause they certainly add something to the songs, and it just looks kickass seeing him doing em.

It only shows till halfway of the solo, sorry bout that, I can give you my paypal account if you want to donate for a larger memorystick :p

With this video I dedided to compress audio as well, because it took up a rather large chunk of the total file, don't worry, you won't notice any difference in terms of audio. This way this video is only 800kb larger than the previous one, while the original video was more than 30MB larger than the first one.

Dragonforce - Operation Ground and Pound (home.planet.nl/~vos10272/music/Dragonforce 05-03-2006Operation.rar)
Total filesize: 25MB
Playing time: 5 minutes, 7 seconds

Enjoy :guitar:

ps. First video has been taken down, this one will be up untill Sunday for sure, expect a video from the Rage & Freedom Call concert next week ;)

ps2(ugh). This one has been taken down as well, as the Rage video is currently online.

[L.h.]

I have some posters but my 2 favorite ones I have are my As I Lay Dying and Demon Hunter.

[JKKDARK]

Just thought I'd share these with you. :D

What (metal) posters does everyone else here have?
good posters:thumb: manowar, judas priest and metallica are really gods:wub: so, why not sabbath, van halen, whitesnake, motley crue? they are monsters of rock!!
rammstein really sucks:p (for me;))

[MT]

W00T another great video Cid!!! I liked it very much! Thanks again! :D
/can't wait for Sonata's one...

[hushypushy]

sweet master of puppets poster. i have a more modern metallica one (it has rob) that i got for christmas from my sister a couple years back...its still chilling in my old room (aka at my parents place).

in my apartment now, it's nothing but movie posters, girls kissing, and jpop :p (well i have one les claypool poster up but meh, that doesnt go with my asian women theme).

[industrian]

good posters:thumb: manowar, judas priest and metallica are really gods:wub: so, why not sabbath, van halen, whitesnake, motley crue? they are monsters of rock!!
rammstein really sucks:p (for me;))

I have no more room on my walls. :p I have a sword on my wall between the Rammstein and X-Japan posters. It isn't metal, but I'd love to get a picture of the cover of Depeche Mode's "Violator." The cover (http://music.porkrind.org/Depeche%20Mode/Violator/cover.jpg) is just awesome.

Rammstein rule. :p Best music video, ever (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9168085201448164272&q). And how can you not love stuff like this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2055072461512956200&). ;)

As for Master of Puppets. It's the greatest metal album ever, I bought the poster to pay respect.

And hushy, that's my parent's house as well. Sucks. When I get a new place then maybe I'll get some more posters. I got an Ana Sofia Henao poster ready and waiting.

Cid: I've just remembered that I actually have plenty of hosting space on my URL. If you want to borrow some bandwidth, then just ask.

[Cid Highwind]

Alright, well you'll notice when I ran out when my links don't work anymore :p

Thx for the offer.

[JKKDARK]

Rammstein rule. :p Best music video, ever (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9168085201448164272&q). And how can you not love stuff like this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2055072461512956200&). ;)
for some stupid reason i don´t like the 'little' bands from 90s and 00s. you can´t compare this little bands with the old rock bands from 60s, 70s, 80s:p

[L.h.]

How can I forget Children of Bodom one ****ing great band.

[ArchIBaLD]

Great videos cid!

check these out, my favourite band, Blind Guardian:

Bright Eyes: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7454357373298939615&q=blind+guardian&pl=true

into the storm (in my opinion the best live i have ever heard........ no, strike that.. this video sucks) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-177598643167184600&q=blind+guardian&pl=true

I listen to rammstein too. i like their videos, like amerika. My friend showed me a few anime videos with their music in the background and it's pretty cool (really fits the lips, specially in the engel/evangelion video).

however I really don't recommend the live video of Ohne Dich. it's a really sick ****.

[MT]

How can I forget Children of Bodom one ****ing great band.
Indeed.

check these out, my favourite band, Blind Guardian:
Nightfall in the Middle-Earth album roxxor teh boxxor. :)

[Aided Onslaught]

industrian, thanks for the new sleeping sun video, I've been wanting tosee it for a while. I liked it a lot, but the new version doesn't seem to sound as full could be the speakers.

And Blind Guardian is by far my favorite band too!

[hushypushy]

industrian, i'd have to say my favorite rammstein video is Ich Will, that was a directorial masterpiece. second place goes to Keine Lust (FAT GUYS?!) and third is the new one, Mann Gegen Mann (nekkid dudes!). that family values 98 Buch Dich is great too, my friend had the DVD, i used to watch it all the time in middle school :p

i feel really out of place in this thread, because i am a huge metalhead, but i dont like any of the stuff you guys do. ill list my favorite bands (in no order)

death metal:
necrophagist
decapitated
cannibal corpse
dying fetus
exhumed
aborted
brujeria
morbid angel
opeth

"metal" (i dont know how to classify it, i call it "normal" metal)
pantera
rammstein
metallica (in the 90s)
dope
fear factory
static-x
meshuggah
gardenian
sepultura/soulfly

thrash
slayer
metallica (80s)
megadeth
anthrax
pig destroyer (well this isnt really thrash, it's grindcore, but i dont have a seperate grindcore section)

andddd there's probably more in there somewhere. i dunno, i know im a metalhead (and stoner rock fiend, kyuss et al, i love josh homme...and jpop nutcase, heh) but you guys are way different than me :p ah yes, metal means something else to everyone, that's why it's awesome.

[MT]

nice thrash list ^^
Old metallica rocks.
Btw, I like Sepultura too, but just hadn't listened to Soulfly yet.

[hushypushy]

IMO Soulfly is kickass. some people really really dont like them (including one of my friends who is the biggest Sepultura fan i know). give them a fair chance, they are very cool.

[Cid Highwind]

Most stuff we talk about is the fast powermetal stuff, indeed a bit different than the bands you listed Hushy. Ah well, I'll try to make a video of Rage this Sunday, seeing how you like Metallica I think you will like Rage as well.

Check their webpage (http://www.rage-on.de/) (media tab) for some downloads. Flesh and Blood is a very good song of theirs, it's live as well. For me it doesn't work right in Firefox, so you might have to use IE (there's a handy plugin for those sites as well)

I can't wait for sunday, I'm willing to bet there will be nothing left of my voice the other day, some songs really touch me because of some past events so I'll probably be screaming along, Stefan Fiore style :evil:

Another recommended song of their page is War of Worlds.

[JKKDARK]

good metal and thrash lists:) don´t you add motley crue to your metal list? His songs from the 80s are the best ever!
also, i love the first Skid Row album from '89. only for the songs 18 And Life, I Remember You and Youth Gone Wild:wub:
the old metallica is excellent. i hate they since 2003:smash:
keep on rocking;)

[ArchIBaLD]

A "night at the opera" is my personal favourite from the Blind Guardian albums becuase he has the most songs that I like.

say, is the kiene lost the one with the girl who swollows a foot? or was that engel? or am I totally confusing things?

btw has anyone ever listened to tristania?

[Cid Highwind]

Damn you Nuclear Blast, postponing the release of Sonata's dvd to the 12th of May :angry:
That's exactly 1 *****ing day after their concert :mad:

[industrian]

Metal AND the Mega Drive.

Found a band called Mega Driver. Hail to Brazil!

Sonic The Hedgehog (http://www.megadriver.com.br/nobackup/ActionMetal/03%20-%20Stage%201%20-%20Hedgehog%20Metal%20(Sonic).mp3)

Guile's Theme (http://www.megadriver.com.br/mp3/MegaDriver%20-%20Sonic%20Boom%20-%20Guile's%20Theme%20(Street%20Fighter%202).mp3)

Check them out.

http://www.megadriver.com.br/

[Cid Highwind]

That Sonic theme put a smile on my face :D

[industrian]

Same. Brought back awesome memories. The Emerald Hill Zone of Sonic 2 would make a fantastic metal tune. The bassline just kicks ass.

To add a list like hushy:

American Power Metal
Manowar
Jag Panzer
Iced Earth
David Shankle Group
Nevermore

European Power Metal
Nightwish
Tarot
Dragonforce
Rhapsody
Helloween
Freedom Call
Hammerfall
Sonata Arctica

Misc Metal
X-Japan
Suidakra
Metallica (up until St.Anger)
Megadeth (up until Mustaine became a preacher)
Arch Enemy
Rammstein
Pantera
Fear Factory
Anthrax
Judas Priest
Iron Maiden
Black Sabbath
Ozzy Osbourne & Randy Rhoads

Other Kinda Metal
Laibach (they had one metal album (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Christ_Superstars_(album)) and use guitar and bass live)
Nine Inch Nails

I'm sure as hell I missed a lot of bands out there. My CD collection is around 400-600.

[Mako Eyes]

Metal AND the Mega Drive.

Found a band called Mega Driver. Hail to Brazil!

Sonic The Hedgehog (http://www.megadriver.com.br/nobackup/ActionMetal/03%20-%20Stage%201%20-%20Hedgehog%20Metal%20(Sonic).mp3)

Guile's Theme (http://www.megadriver.com.br/mp3/MegaDriver%20-%20Sonic%20Boom%20-%20Guile's%20Theme%20(Street%20Fighter%202).mp3)

Check them out.

http://www.megadriver.com.br/


Heh, that reminds me of Stemage's project, Metroid Metal.

His older stuff is mediocre at best, but he really seems to improve as he does more songs. Here's three of my favorite works:

Super Metroid - Maridia theme. (http://www.chunkstyle.net/mm/sm/supermetroid_maridia.mp3)

Super Metroid - Boss Medly (http://www.chunkstyle.net/mm/sm/supermetroid_bossmedley.mp3)

Metroid Prime - Phendrana Drifts (http://www.chunkstyle.net/mm/mp/metroidmetal_phendranadrifts.mp3)

Check him out at http://www.metroidmetal.com if you're interested.

[hushypushy]

haha, iced earth :p

[Cid Highwind]

Metal AND the Mega Drive.

Found a band called Mega Driver. Hail to Brazil!

Sonic The Hedgehog (http://www.megadriver.com.br/nobackup/ActionMetal/03%20-%20Stage%201%20-%20Hedgehog%20Metal%20(Sonic).mp3)

Guile's Theme (http://www.megadriver.com.br/mp3/MegaDriver%20-%20Sonic%20Boom%20-%20Guile's%20Theme%20(Street%20Fighter%202).mp3)

Check them out.

http://www.megadriver.com.br/
I posted the link of the sonic song at another forum and a friend of mine gave me this image in return, I couldn't resist to post it here :lol:
http://www.iceruby.com/sonicadvance3/sonicxchris.jpg

Anyway, the guys can arrive here any minute now, so I'm off to Freedom Call and Rage ;)

[industrian]

haha, iced earth :p

I thought Glorious Burden kicked ass. :p

To add to my list though:

Anonymus
Biohazard
Cradle of Filth
Dimmu Borgir
Faith No More
KMFDM
Mayhem
Megaherz (well, Himmelfahrt anyways)
One Minute Silence
Quo Vadis
Rorschach Test
Staind (Don't ask.)
System of a Down
Testament

Cid: lmao. How was the gig? Did they play "Farewell?" That song kicks ass.

[Cid Highwind]

The gig ROCKED :D

We got to talk with the guys of Freedom Call, took some nice pictures (http://forums.ngemu.com/943406-post1989.html) and got two signed posters, one for a friend of mine who couldn't come that night. I don't know if they played Farewell, I don't know each and every song by heart yet. Also I made 2 videos that night, I filmed Land of the Light completely, and I managed to get a very large part of Rage's new song Innocent.

At this moment I'm sitting here with my voice in ruins and a sore neck.

Freedom had a very good show, a good mix between old and new songs. They kicked off with Warriors :D Too bad I didn't hear Fairyland, Holy Knight and Graceland, those are my favs. They were really enthusiastic on stage, at a point we decided to start shouting FREEDOM CALL, FREEDOM CALL when the songs were over. The second time we did that a large part of the audience joined us and the band stood there speechless ^^ I think they enjoyed it just as much as we did, when I talked to the singer after the show he thanked us as well. Seriously, these guys simply put a happy smile on my face.

After Freedom Call it was time for Rage, I think there was about half an hour or maybe even longer between the two bands. So we had to be patient, they still had to do a soundcheck. First thing I noticed was that the volume got turned a bit higher, almost a bit too high for my liking. Rage had a very impressive show, they didn't play a lot of the live album of theirs, so I didn't know a lot of the songs. However they did play Innocent, Down, War of Worlds and Don't you Fear the Winter. The solo's were awesome as well. Can't go wrong with "the world's most sexiest drummer, Mike 'the troll' Terrana. Man can that guy drum, you ain't seen nothing till you've seen this guy. The same goes for their guitarist Victor Smolski. The first guitar solo made my mouth drop till my knees. Vocals were very good as well. When they went off stage the audience started singing 'Higher than the Sky', so of course they returned to play that one as well. This is one night to remember. Another good thing was that it wasn't overcrowded, you could easily get yourself a new beer and return to your former spot.

Here are two pictures from the show, I will upload a new video this night. So anyone who wants to get the Dragonforce video get it while you can. Btw, I think I'll encode the Freedom Call video at a slightly higher rate, I promised the new guitarist to send him an email with a link to the video. Maybe they'll put in on their website :)

[industrian]

LMAO! They started with Warriors! Genius. XD

Farewell is track 4 of Crystal Empire (http://www.metal-observer.com/articles.php?lid=1&sid=1&id=3507). It's my unofficial "I'm the only one in the house, put up the volume" song. :p

Farewell sample (http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000056VC3001004/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_004/104-5597825-3178358) (from Amazon.com)

Meh, I wish I lived on the continent. At least then I could get to see these bands. :(

Instead I have to settle for generic excellence like this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5679917750244142801&). ;)

Never heard of Rage though.

[Cid Highwind]

LMAO! They started with Warriors! Genius. XD

Farewell is track 4 of Crystal Empire (http://www.metal-observer.com/articles.php?lid=1&sid=1&id=3507). It's my unofficial "I'm the only one in the house, put up the volume" song. :p

Farewell sample (http://www.amazon.com/gp/music/wma-pop-up/B000056VC3001004/ref=mu_sam_wma_001_004/104-5597825-3178358) (from Amazon.com)

I don't know if they played that song, it didn't ring a bell. But concert mostly end up being somewhat of a vague memory like it's all been a rush. And no, it's not because of the beer :p

Meh, I wish I lived on the continent. At least then I could get to see these bands. :(

Instead I have to settle for generic excellence like this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5679917750244142801&). ;)
What, only one bass pedal? Sounds good though :)

Never heard of Rage though.
Oh but you will have very soonish, just click here (http://home.planet.nl/~vos10272/Rage-Innocent.rar). They've got songs for download at their website (http://www.rage-on.de/).

I hope you guys will enjoy the video, everyone who likes something that sounds just a wee little bit like metal should listen to this, they're good I tell ya :D

[Nevermore]

***** stole my metal

[Cid Highwind]

And stealing his 50 cent albums ain't worth the risk.

[Nevermore]

***** stole your hahas from your joke because I have nothing that is rap

[hushypushy]

I thought Glorious Burden kicked ass. :p

To add to my list though:

Anonymus
Biohazard
Cradle of Filth
Dimmu Borgir
Faith No More
KMFDM
Mayhem
Megaherz (well, Himmelfahrt anyways)
One Minute Silence
Quo Vadis
Rorschach Test
Staind (Don't ask.)
System of a Down
Testament

dang, i totally forgot about cradle of filth, faith no more, kmfdm, and system of a down. i didnt consider system of a down, mudvayne, limp bizkit, or korn because that's what i listened to in middle school/early high school and they havent been good since.

mike patton is the man, faith no more, mr. bungle, tomahawk, lovage, general patton & the xecutioners, etc etc...i love that dude. i am getting into him more and more.

[industrian]

Cradle of Filth's newest album "Nymphetamine" (lol @ name) is almost power metal. Extremely melodic.

Generic excellence = Muse (http://www.muse.mu/). Not really metal but still nonetheless excellent. They've got a new album coming soon as well. WTF?! They're supporting Depeche Mode in July?! That just sounds like an awesome gig.

[Cid Highwind]

***** stole your hahas from your joke because I have nothing that is rap
I was talking about getting revenge on him by stealing his most 'precious' albums ;)

[industrian]

Another reason why Muse kick ass btw:

http://www.muse.mu/

If you go their website, in the bottom corner is an audio player with an Launch Jukebox function. If you click that you can listen to high or low quality tracks of ALL their songs. What other bands do that?

Personally I recommend:

Hysteria, Stockholm Syndrome, Falling Away With You, Plug In Baby, Fillip, Unintended, Muscle Museum, Thoughts of a Dying Atheist and The Small Print.

This has shocked me that such a big band like Muse is offering their music free on their website. Great stuff.

[ArchIBaLD]

Muscle museum is one of my favourite songs. I didn't listen to them that much (not too loud for me) but obviusly i have got to take a second look.

[hushypushy]

They're supporting Depeche Mode in July?! That just sounds like an awesome gig.

i don't mean to sound like a ***** or nothin', but i think DM is really badass.

[Aided Onslaught]

i don't mean to sound like a ***** or nothin', but i think DM is really badass.

hahahah I love that movie.

[industrian]

i don't mean to sound like a ***** or nothin', but i think DM is really badass.

Depeche Mode are one of my favourite groups. If it were up to me, I'd force everyone in the world to listen to this (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002L9M/002-7895241-5685644?v=glance&n=5174) album.

:p

[Aided Onslaught]

Depeche Mode are one of my favourite groups. If it were up to me, I'd force everyone in the world to listen to this (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000002L9M/002-7895241-5685644?v=glance&n=5174) album.

:p
well in flames did a cover of DM. So did finger eleven, but they aren't metal, but they are still rather good.

[Cid Highwind]

Sonata Arctica did a cover of the song 'World in my Eyes'.

[Cid Highwind]

Some thing I think might be worth sharing is the way I use EAX for normal music. I don't know if you guys have experimented with it but I always have EAX turned on when listening to metal. I got a SBLive24bit and always have it set on 'Garage' at 25. It definately adds something imo :)

I'm curious about what you guys think of it.

[MT]

I've to dl the video yet, I'm just finishing some urgent downloads. :)
Sonata Arctica did a cover of the song 'World in my Eyes'.
REALLY? oO

[Mako Eyes]

Some thing I think might be worth sharing is the way I use EAX for normal music. I don't know if you guys have experimented with it but I always have EAX turned on when listening to metal. I got a SBLive24bit and always have it set on 'Garage' at 25. It definately adds something imo :)

I'm curious about what you guys think of it.

Hm, I just tried it out, and I really can't hear much of a difference. I don't have much of a critical ear anyway :p

Well, with the effect on 100 I can hear it, but when it's set as low as 25 it's pretty much the same.

[industrian]

Some thing I think might be worth sharing is the way I use EAX for normal music. I don't know if you guys have experimented with it but I always have EAX turned on when listening to metal. I got a SBLive24bit and always have it set on 'Garage' at 25. It definately adds something imo :)

I'm curious about what you guys think of it.

Since the speakers I'm using right now are the "height of s**te" (as in: not my GigaWorks) I can't really tell how good EAX configs are. :(

Which is a shame, because the below EAX option (it's really obvious) does sound like it kicks ass in all my music.

[Mako Eyes]

Since the speakers I'm using right now are the "height of s**te" (as in: not my GigaWorks) I can't really tell how good EAX configs are. :(

Which is a shame, because the below EAX option (it's really obvious) does sound like it kicks ass in all my music.

Hey, I rather like this setting. I remember trying it out earlier and changing back to standard for some reason, but I can't remember why. I think it was because I was getting bass overload or something (I have a ***** subwoofer). However I since downed the overall volume, so it's good now. I'll keep it.

[industrian]

Since I've just started listening to a lot of music nowadays (read: I'm spending time indoors) I've realised how much I miss my speakers (http://uk.europe.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=4&subcategory=113&product=9306). I'm gonna hook them back up the next time I get to my parent's house, put on Tanz Mit Laibach (http://youtube.com/watch?v=-zSRcFxZVAA) and pump the volume through the roof.

My soundcard just makes any other set of speakers sound crap. Might get these (http://uk.europe.creative.com/products/product.asp?product=124) for my house in Glasgow. Lighter to carry than seven speakers and I'm willing to bet it's subwoofer is smaller than a 19" CRT.

BTW: For preservational purposes, you can find one of Cid's videos (Operation Ground and Pound) here (http://www.rpgdesign.com/cid/Dragonforce 05-03-2006Operation.rar). If he puts up the first DragonForce video again then I'll grab it and do the same. I've paid for my bandwidth, might as well use it.

[Cid Highwind]

Since the speakers I'm using right now are the "height of s**te" (as in: not my GigaWorks) I can't really tell how good EAX configs are. :(

Which is a shame, because the below EAX option (it's really obvious) does sound like it kicks ass in all my music.
I think you have newer drivers or that I can not use it with my soundcard, because I never encountered those options. I do however use the Heavy Metal presettings in the Graphics Equalizer menu, also I put up the first two sliders. I can not understand why a lot of metal settings have the low frequencies cut down, I prefer to feel the bass and bass drum.

Btw, it's great to see you're storing my videos over there :D Will you put up the current video as well? (the one of Rage) Because this weekend I will take it down and upload the video of Freedom Call.

[industrian]

Get the Rage video here (http://www.rpgdesign.com/cid/Rage-Innocent.rar).

I love my university connection. 1MB download and around 500KB upload speeds to/ from a usb pendrive.

:D

As you might have noticed, I don't have access to the internet from my house. So get the video up by Monday and I'll upload it. I don't think I have your original DragonForce video at home, so I might need that one again (if you want me to make a total archive of your stuff.)

I can not understand why a lot of metal settings have the low frequencies cut down, I prefer to feel the bass and bass drum.

From what I could make out from my sh**ty speakers (except from the hissing) the sound was very clean when using the Heavy Metal option. I don't really like hearing a loud bass noise because with my subwoofer it's hella loud. I get self-concious about it and fear getting told to "turn down that noise." Damn parents (and my dad's one to talk, as he used to open his windows and share his Black Sabbath records with his neighbourhood when he was my age :p .)

And about that config, I think it may be due to what EAX your card supports. Mines is an Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro, so it does everything except make me coffee. :p

[Cid Highwind]

I know what you mean, I get the same problem with the bass as well, but I don't have a true subwoofer here so that might make a difference. I play my music on some small el cheapo 2.1 speakers (putting them inside my desk does help :heh: ) and my stereo. Everything is connected through the normal audio out jack.

And yes, there's nothing like letting the whole neighbourhood know you have a new cd :evil:

[hushypushy]

ew, i hate EAX. absolutely can't stand it. i've experimented for a long time with that, never got a balance. i have Logitech Z-2300 speakers and a SB Audigy so it's not like im running it through some POS. i just listen to it simple and clean, everything sounds great.

although...as of late, i have become a huge fan of Pro Logic II. for games, yeah its badass (MGS3!) but for music....i am extremely impressed. try that for a sweet stoner experience :cool:

[Aided Onslaught]

I only use EAX to push my music through all my speakers and not just my front ones. I too can't stand the effects. I like the dry, how it came out of the studio sound.

[Cid Highwind]

ew, i hate EAX. absolutely can't stand it. i've experimented for a long time with that, never got a balance. i have Logitech Z-2300 speakers and a SB Audigy so it's not like im running it through some POS. i just listen to it simple and clean, everything sounds great.

although...as of late, i have become a huge fan of Pro Logic II. for games, yeah its badass (MGS3!) but for music....i am extremely impressed. try that for a sweet stoner experience :cool:
Will it work if you have everything connected through the normal analog audio out?

[MaZa]

Pro Logic IS analog thingy. It hides surround-signal to normal stereo output which Prologic chip picks up and plays in rear channels. Rear channels are in Mono though, but with the help of front speakers, it makes it feel like they are in stereo. With games with surround sounds, that is. Music is simply spatialised to rear speakers. Pro Logic and Pro Logic Enhanced are not very good sounding, but i heard that Pro Logic II does some incredible job with music aswell.

BTW, what kind of music system you all have and what are your opinions of it?
Im using Audigy 2 -> Yamaha RX-V480 Prologic Amplifier -> AKG K 240 Studio headphones

Audigy 2 has a huge frequency drop in high treble, so i am saving for SB x-Fi card which has almost line-straight frequency responce. Yes, i am an Audiophile. :p

My headphones, while great sounding, are also bit too slow and warm for Metal, (they are more grooving Jazz cans) so i am going to get either Sennheiser HD595 which i is great headphone for metal or so i heard. Either that or Beyerdynamic DT990.



My fav Viking/Melodeath band Amon Amarth - Death In Fire
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1380626673778773149&q=Amon+Amarth&pl=true

Uber-clichee band which we all love, Dimmu Borgir - Mourning Palace
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-917858678334273139&q=Dimmu+Borgir&pl=true

OLD METALLICA GIG WITH (rip) BURTON! Lyrically propably best Metallica song they have ever made, For Whom The Bell Tolls.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=600780502229316521&q=Metallica&pl=true

[Mako Eyes]

My fav Viking/Melodeath band Amon Amarth - Death In Fire
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1380626673778773149&q=Amon+Amarth&pl=true


Damn I love that song, too bad good metal is really hard to come by around here (though I did once stumble upon HammerFall's Chapter V not too long ago). I can't wait til I transfer to another university in a few years, in a city that has an HMV and a decent CDplus. The CDplus here is merely a tiny shop and anything not mainstream or "popular" has to be ordered in. Hell, it took FOUR months after I ordered them for Blind Guardian's A Night at the Opera and Iced Earth's Something Wicked this way Comes to get here.

[Aided Onslaught]

speaking of chapter V, does anyone else feel it was crimson all over again, but not as good? Just felt like the same thing again. four months for night at the opera?! ahhh I can't live with out that album, it's just amazing. I'm glad where I'm at they have SOME good metal, but much more of the **** I can't stand and shoudln't have the "metal" name even close to it.

[hushypushy]

Will it work if you have everything connected through the normal analog audio out?

yeah, it's exactly the same. i always use the digital out though, even for games that dont support it (which is nearly every game), just because the digital output just sounds much much better (it is VERY noticeable).

anyway, i havent heard the old Pro Logic, but PLII is amazing. i have never, ever been a fan of upmixing anything. CMSS and EAX always pissed me off, i could never stand ANY setting that either of them had. PLII though is very very cool. game mode is nice and it surprisingly seems to work (you can hear sounds all around you! in MGS:TS on gamecube, when otacon is supposedly behind the camera talking to you, it actually went to the back left speaker and then as he walked past, it moved to the front. it works) but sounds like **** for music. music mode is horrible for games, but is amazing for music. one night a friend and i sat back, high as ballz, put on a big stream of music videos, that was pretty awesome.

although, i dont know if i could listen to PLII every single second. its cool, but a lot of the time you want regular old stereo sound. that's how i feel about 5.1 mixes...i have Mudvayne's "Dig" DVD in 5.1, Rammstein's Rosenrot, and NIN's downward spiral all in 5.1, they are pretty rad but i dont know if i always want to hear that kind of head trip.

PS. i cant believe i forgot to mention Necrophagist earlier!!!!!! they are amazing. if anyone is in the bay area and is going to see them at The Pound on may 12.....let me know. myself and a bunch of friends are going, its gonna be badass.

[Cid Highwind]

speaking of chapter V, does anyone else feel it was crimson all over again, but not as good? Just felt like the same thing again. four months for night at the opera?! ahhh I can't live with out that album, it's just amazing. I'm glad where I'm at they have SOME good metal, but much more of the **** I can't stand and shoudln't have the "metal" name even close to it.
So you're saying you are not going to like my video of Secrets? :p

Which reminds me, tonight I'm putting online the Freedom Call video.

Hushy: I doubt the PLII will have effect the way I set up my audio stuff, I can't imagine it creating a 3d effect when I have 2 independant stereo sets of speakers set up in front of me. It's already hard to notice a stereo effect at my place. (doesn't mean it doesn't sound good though)

[Aided Onslaught]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5021214530633413654&q=edguy&pl=true

Just saw the superhero's video from edguy yesterday, also check out the LLM video, I htink it's the most funny

[Cid Highwind]

Edguy rocks, the Superheroes song is way too cheesy, I prefer the Hellfire Club album, but the clip is great. Typically Edguy ;)

I posted that video in CKEmu's music video thread some time ago. Tobias has got an amazing voice and man did I wish they had finished playing The Trooper instead of cutting it off after a minute :(

Somehow I have a weak spot for Tobias' lame form of humor, I always enjoy reading the entries he makes at the Edguy webpage, also check this (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1846874848169716557&pl=true) video with André Matos.

More Edguy humor: The Headless game Live (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6134027809018378861&pl=true)

[Chrono Archangel]

Hey has anyone listened to Sepultura's latest album? It's called Dante XXI...
Am I the only one that think it's pure crap compared to their old stuff like Arise or Beath The Remains?

Most reviews I read praise this album :S

[Nevermore]

Hey has anyone listened to Sepultura's latest album? It's called Dante XXI...
Am I the only one that think it's pure crap compared to their old stuff like Arise or Beath The Remains?

Most reviews I read praise this album :S

it is indeed pure garbage.

[hushypushy]

chrono: i saw that at the store the other day! i didnt even know about it. i fear listening to it.

[Aided Onslaught]

yeah hell fire club is by FAR Edguy's best album, that's what I expected with rocket ride. I like their little jokes and I agree the stuff on the web site is awesome to read. just hope they do something more like hell fire next...

[industrian]

ew, i hate EAX. absolutely can't stand it.

Same. I only use the CMSS feature for "stereo surround" when listening to mp3s and playing games. Why have 2 speakers when you can use 7?

And yeah, any game with surround sound rules. The first time I played Call of Duty with my GigaWorks was sweet. The Russian levels were simply awesome.

One thing about Pro Logic 2 though. I'm playing Onimusha 3 right now through my PC (Dscaler and digital audio cable into my soundcard) and sometimes the audio just cuts off for a few seconds then returns. Is this because of the Pro Logic signal on my craptacular speakers I'm using right now? (as i never had problems with my other speakers.)

BTW, what kind of music system you all have and what are your opinions of it?
Im using Audigy 2 -> Yamaha RX-V480 Prologic Amplifier -> AKG K 240 Studio headphones

Audigy 2 has a huge frequency drop in high treble, so i am saving for SB x-Fi card which has almost line-straight frequency responce. Yes, i am an Audiophile. :p

Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Pro > GigaWorks S750 (at parent's house, i use tinny 2.0s right now) > (when told to turn it down) Sony Fontopia headphones.

:p Lol, I spent £260 on speakers, don't blame me for getting average headphones. My next PC will have a X-Fi Elite Pro (or whatever Creative's flagship product is when I get my next PC) but I'm not an audiophile. I'm just a guy who wants the best possible thing inside and outside his PC. :D

Hey has anyone listened to Sepultura's latest album? It's called Dante XXI...
Am I the only one that think it's pure crap compared to their old stuff like Arise or Beath The Remains?

IMO all their albums after Chaos A.D. were mediocre. That album just totally owned everything.

[MaZa]

Lol, I spent £260 on speakers, don't blame me for getting average headphones. My next PC will have a X-Fi Elite Pro (or whatever Creative's flagship product is when I get my next PC) but I'm not an audiophile. I'm just a guy who wants the best possible thing inside and outside his PC.
:D


Considering you are willing to pay over 200£ to soundsystem, you ARE a sort of audiophile. :onthepull

:lol:

[Cid Highwind]

yeah hell fire club is by FAR Edguy's best album, that's what I expected with rocket ride. I like their little jokes and I agree the stuff on the web site is awesome to read. just hope they do something more like hell fire next...
Indeed, I found it very disappointing when I first listened to it, the only song that I liked was Rocket Ride because it seemed to be the only one at a decent pace. They didn't even play it live :( And Trinidad is the lamest song I've ever heard, the lyrics are just ****ty, at least Lavatory Love Machine was funny, so is F\/cking with Fire (great song :lol: )

Nothing of the album comes close to the pure power of Mysteria, the really catchy guitar riffs of Rise of the Morning Glory and the very good ballad, forgot its name. Hellfire Club doesn't have any weak songs at all. I consider it a step forward from their 'old style', which wasn't bad to start with, though the song Vain Glory Opera still reminds me of Europe xD

[industrian]

Considering you are willing to pay over 200£ to soundsystem, you ARE a sort of audiophile. :onthepull

:lol:

Kinda. Possibly. Maybe.

Er...

Yeah. :p

The speakers are built for opera though (imo). Get a big room, spread all seven speakers well and then put on Ride of the Valkyries. It has to be heard to be believed. Well, that and Manowar. Nothing beats that sort of party.

EDIT: Just watched the old Metallica video. White Explorer plus long hair = true Metallica. Not this *****whipped **** you hear nowadays. Cliff Burton was a mentalist on the bass.

[MaZa]

Kinda. Possibly. Maybe.

Er...

Yeah. :p

The speakers are built for opera though (imo). Get a big room, spread all seven speakers well and then put on Ride of the Valkyries. It has to be heard to be believed. Well, that and Manowar. Nothing beats that sort of party.

EDIT: Just watched the old Metallica video. White Explorer plus long hair = true Metallica. Not this *****whipped **** you hear nowadays. Cliff Burton was a mentalist on the bass.




Yeah. After Burtons departure Metallica was no longer Metallica. It was he who wrote the most of the songs afterall...

[Chrono Archangel]

w00t \,,/
just came back home..... with my Arch Enemy and DragonForce tickets :D
only thing that pisses me off is that the shows are back to back

[hushypushy]

Yeah. After Burtons departure Metallica was no longer Metallica. It was he who wrote the most of the songs afterall...

uh, that's not true. it's always been mostly James and Lars (and Dave Mustaine at the way beginning) who wrote the basic foundations for the songs, and Kirk and Cliff came in to add stuff. it's true that Cliff had more input than Jason did....but saying that cliff wrote most of the songs is very far from the truth.

in fact, i just went and checked the booklets in the CDs. cliff isn't credited on anything on kill em all, he is for a lot of ride the lightning, and for a couple things on puppets. was he involved on every song? definitely. did he write most of them? no way.

metallica changed after cliff, but they were still badass. come on, and justice for all is one of the heaviest albums ever, and self titled (black album) is totally amazing. load did not get the credit it deserved--it is very cool. reload starts off with 4 good tracks then sucks. st. anger would've been awesome had the post production and lyrical content not been some of the worst ever. even their post cliff "garage" stuff had a lot of really cool tracks.

yeah, metallica lost their thrash status. hell, i'm listening to ride the lightning right now (coincidentally). i love old metallica. but post cliff ain't bad either, in fact i think it's fantastic.

[Cid Highwind]

w00t \,,/
just came back home..... with my Arch Enemy and DragonForce tickets :D
only thing that pisses me off is that the shows are back to back
Congrats dude, enjoy the shows, I wish I could see them :D

[industrian]

I read an article about Metallica BTW called "Master of Profits."

http://www.dcnvc.com/DefaultN1.asp?GoTo=EditorialN1.asp

Scroll down and it's there. That site also has some other (sometimes LMAO) articles.

BTW, in an effort for me to get more people into Suidakra, aka THE BEST F**KIN' METAL BAND IN THE WORLD TODAY, I've put up two mp3s. They'll be removed shortly.

After listening to them, go here (http://www.suidakra.com) and buy their CDs or listen to more of their tracks. When their next album is out, I'm going to Germany (or wherever) to see them live. If they can recreate the sheer awesomeness of their studio tracks live, then there's no reason why they can't ride the waves of hell live.

Dead Man's Reel - Instrumental (http://www.rpgdesign.com/mp3/Dead_Mans_Reel.mp3)

The Alliance (http://www.rpgdesign.com/mp3/Haughs_of_Cromdale-The_Alliance.mp3) (best intro ever?)

[MaZa]

uh, that's not true. it's always been mostly James and Lars (and Dave Mustaine at the way beginning) who wrote the basic foundations for the songs, and Kirk and Cliff came in to add stuff. it's true that Cliff had more input than Jason did....but saying that cliff wrote most of the songs is very far from the truth.

in fact, i just went and checked the booklets in the CDs. cliff isn't credited on anything on kill em all, he is for a lot of ride the lightning, and for a couple things on puppets. was he involved on every song? definitely. did he write most of them? no way.

metallica changed after cliff, but they were still badass. come on, and justice for all is one of the heaviest albums ever, and self titled (black album) is totally amazing. load did not get the credit it deserved--it is very cool. reload starts off with 4 good tracks then sucks. st. anger would've been awesome had the post production and lyrical content not been some of the worst ever. even their post cliff "garage" stuff had a lot of really cool tracks.

yeah, metallica lost their thrash status. hell, i'm listening to ride the lightning right now (coincidentally). i love old metallica. but post cliff ain't bad either, in fact i think it's fantastic.


Sorry, i didnt mean 'write' as doing whole songs himself. I meant that it was Cliff who influenced the style how they played. There was a quite long biography about it in some Garage Inc disk IIRC. After his death, everything changed, even style. Justice for all album is decent. Nothing major, and bit boring on some parts IMHO, but worthy 'in memory of' album for Cliff.

[hushypushy]

man, you are a humongous Cliff Burton fan aren't you?

Metallica grew up, they changed. i think they changed into something badass, i love the newsted era of metallica.

it's like Slayer. they were a crazy 80s thrash band, but when the 90s swung around (especially around the time of Divine Intervention, Diabolus in Musica, and God Hates us All...ok that's 2001 but it still counts) they got a lot heavier. so do you not like new Slayer just because they changed? i think new Slayer is amazing. my favorite two slayer albums are Reign in Blood and God Hates Us All. just because the style changed, doesnt mean there's any reason not to like them.

[Cid Highwind]

I read an article about Metallica BTW called "Master of Profits."

http://www.dcnvc.com/DefaultN1.asp?GoTo=EditorialN1.asp

Scroll down and it's there. That site also has some other (sometimes LMAO) articles.

BTW, in an effort for me to get more people into Suidakra, aka THE BEST F**KIN' METAL BAND IN THE WORLD TODAY, I've put up two mp3s. They'll be removed shortly.

After listening to them, go here (http://www.suidakra.com) and buy their CDs or listen to more of their tracks. When their next album is out, I'm going to Germany (or wherever) to see them live. If they can recreate the sheer awesomeness of their studio tracks live, then there's no reason why they can't ride the waves of hell live.

Dead Man's Reel - Instrumental (http://www.rpgdesign.com/mp3/Dead_Mans_Reel.mp3)

The Alliance (http://www.rpgdesign.com/mp3/Haughs_of_Cromdale-The_Alliance.mp3) (best intro ever?)
Nice intro, not the best one, Graveworm's been using bagpipes on their older albums as well, I love them :D Listen to 'A Dreaming Beauty' if you like those kind of intros. However the bagpipes in your songs sound more 'clean' than in A Dreaming Beauty, I like the songs you shared, thanks :)

Btw, Miretank, please let me know when you've finished downloading the Rage video so that I can replace it with the FC video.

[MaZa]

man, you are a humongous Cliff Burton fan aren't you?

Metallica grew up, they changed. i think they changed into something badass, i love the newsted era of metallica.

it's like Slayer. they were a crazy 80s thrash band, but when the 90s swung around (especially around the time of Divine Intervention, Diabolus in Musica, and God Hates us All...ok that's 2001 but it still counts) they got a lot heavier. so do you not like new Slayer just because they changed? i think new Slayer is amazing. my favorite two slayer albums are Reign in Blood and God Hates Us All. just because the style changed, doesnt mean there's any reason not to like them.


No, i simply dont like the direction Metallica headed after Cliffs death. Newsted era was listenable up to the Black Album. However music in Black Album was a huge drop in quality. Totally Souless.. Still decent, but gimme Kill 'Em All anyday. Load and Reload, ugh. ST. Anger... horrible. Grew up? I dunno, i leave that subject to others. I have to admit though, i really like Unforgiven and Unforgiven II songs. But thats it.

I have nothing against changing unless it is to the worse.
Slayer did change quite a bit. I never got into Slayer anyway, new or old but there are fantastic songs in both era. Bloodline and Disciple on new era, Angel Of Death and Spirit In Black of old... Fantastic.

Megadeth did also change, but they had same spirit thru their era. Mustaine managed to, where Metallica failed, change without losing quality at all.

[hushypushy]

well, of course it's all subject to debate. maybe it's the country barrier? you're in northern europe, you are right there to finnish/swedish/etc metal ;)

all of the metallica fans i know appreciate 90s metallica. if you're a thrash fan, i can understand why you wouldn't like 90s metallica. they are pretty much a different band after cliff.

by the way, did you see their Iron Man performance at the rock and roll HOF? it was for Ozzy. i thought it was a pretty cool cover.

[Chrono Archangel]

meh... just my 2 cents on the whole Metallica ****
I'm a huge fan but I do have to agree with Maza... Load, Reload arent good at all IMO...and St. Anger just...euhh blows... seriously, I cant stand for one second Lars's drums >_<

Other thing, you have to admit that James has no more voice at all! That guy cant sing anymore....It's all "Yeah, yeah!" **** now a days...

If Metallica would come back to Montreal, I wouldnt pay the 100$ ticket... (once is enough) I rather go see Alcoholica (http://www.alcoholica.ca) (Quebec Metallica cover band). They only play good old ****, and the singers voice is like James during the Kill Em' All/Ride the lightning days

Plus the shows are less than 10$ and it's EXACTLY the same thing :p

[industrian]

meh... just my 2 cents on the whole Metallica ****
I'm a huge fan but I do have to agree with Maza... Load, Reload arent good at all IMO...and St. Anger just...euhh blows... seriously, I cant stand for one second Lars's drums >_<

Other thing, you have to admit that James has no more voice at all! That guy cant sing anymore....It's all "Yeah, yeah!" **** now a days...

If Metallica would come back to Montreal, I wouldnt pay the 100$ ticket... (once is enough) I rather go see Alcoholica (http://www.alcoholica.ca) (Quebec Metallica cover band). They only play good old ****, and the singers voice is like James during the Kill Em' All/Ride the lightning days

Plus the shows are less than 10$ and it's EXACTLY the same thing :p

St. Anger sucked. Any metal fan with a different opinion of that needs to have his (or her) forehead introduced to the nearest pavement.:p

Hetfield's voice is totally f***ed. At the Download Festival in Glasgow a few years back he just sounded awful.

Metallica's creative peak was "...And Justice For All." That album was simply incredible. The quality was crap with the clicky drums and non-existant bass and all, but the musical and lyrical qualities were awesome. It was more progressive metal than thrash metal. Then came Metallica's commercial peak, the Black Album. It sounded clean, had simplistic riffs and no progressive interludes like on Justice. Plus, they were using Bon Jovi's producer. The Black Album does still rock in it's own right, but after that album, and the massive tour that followed, Metallica were never the same.

Still, Load and ReLoad were much better than St. Anger.

---

BTW, to get back to the sharing. Here's the video of the David Shankle Group song "Calling all Heroes." Quite a moving one. It's on their website but the download speed from it is terrible, so I moved it to my host.

Calling all Heroes (http://www.rpgdesign.com/mp3/Calling_all_Heroes.mpg)

[MaZa]

well, of course it's all subject to debate. maybe it's the country barrier? you're in northern europe, you are right there to finnish/swedish/etc metal ;)

all of the metallica fans i know appreciate 90s metallica. if you're a thrash fan, i can understand why you wouldn't like 90s metallica. they are pretty much a different band after cliff.

by the way, did you see their Iron Man performance at the rock and roll HOF? it was for Ozzy. i thought it was a pretty cool cover.



Hehehe... Indeed. Scandinavian made metal rocks afterall! My mind is simply filled with scandinavian (and scandinavian styled) blackmetal. :D Mayhem - De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas FTW!

No, i havent seen that.


Other thing, you have to admit that James has no more voice at all! That guy cant sing anymore....It's all "Yeah, yeah!" **** now a days...


Yeah, Hetfield used to have magnificent voice! Perhaps booze burned his throat, "whiskey bass gurgle" you know. :D

[Aided Onslaught]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IYi0T99vmkI&search=korpiklaani

haha my friend just showed me this band, I'm not sure what to think, it's like the most cheesy thing mixed with elven king.

[hushypushy]

if you take out the crap for crap lyrics on st anger (just tell your mind to block them out), the music is actually pretty cool, just horribly produced.

and i honestly think Load is cool. ok i'm gonna put it on RIGHT NOW and listen to it (it's been a while).

[Aided Onslaught]

from what I heard of st anger. the "lets make it sound like we've been playing our instruments for only 2 weeks by copying other bands with NU in front of it" doesn't work for me at all.

[industrian]

and i honestly think Load is cool. ok i'm gonna put it on RIGHT NOW and listen to it (it's been a while).

You're not alone. I left Load for a few years, went back to it, and respected it more. "Hero of the Day" and "Outlaw Torn" are great.

[Cid Highwind]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=IYi0T99vmkI&search=korpiklaani

haha my friend just showed me this band, I'm not sure what to think, it's like the most cheesy thing mixed with elven king.
Great stuff.... after 6 pints of beer ;)

[hushypushy]

You're not alone. I left Load for a few years, went back to it, and respected it more. "Hero of the Day" and "Outlaw Torn" are great.

yeah, i love Bleeding Me and Until it Sleeps. 'twas a great album. i cant even really think of any other album that sounds like it, and if i did find out, i probably wouldnt like it.

[industrian]

yeah, i love Bleeding Me and Until it Sleeps. 'twas a great album. i cant even really think of any other album that sounds like it, and if i did find out, i probably wouldnt like it.

Plus, the S&M versions of the Load songs are better. Outlaw Torn and Hero of the Day just sound freaking EPIC. In fact *listens (http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1336/listen5xh.jpg)*.

Load is one of those albums that was rated against the artist's previous releases more than it was rated on it's own merit. Load is inferior to their previous stuff. And with Metallica doing Lollapalooza, cutting their hair, and other sell-out-accusation bait they just were never going to get any respect from it.

And finding other artists that sound like my favourite bands ... is hard. I mean, take Laibach for example. The only groups that come close are H.E.R.R. and Von Thronstahl. The irony here being is that I actually discovered Laibach in 2002 looking for bands that sounded like Rammstein. :p And finding other bands that sound like Manowar either results in one of two endgames: me ROFLMAO or me going back to "Kings of Metal." :D

[hushypushy]

:lol: i love how you posted a picture of how you have that album on your computer. i should go take a picture of the actual albums :p too bad my black album and and justice for all are gone :( so i guess it's not very impressive....i have all the other ones though.

edit: i forgot to mention, check out www.liveplasma.com. they dont have everything, but they do have a lot, and its pretty interesting.

[industrian]

:lol: i love how you posted a picture of how you have that album on your computer. i should go take a picture of the actual albums :p

Well it was either this (http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/1336/listen5xh.jpg) or that (http://www.rpgdesign.com/all.jpg). ;)

[Chrono Archangel]

nice collection industrian :D
no St. Anger? :p
nice variety of genres too.

[industrian]

no St. Anger? :p

I bought it on the day of release, got tired of it easily and then sold it in my Great CD Purge of 2004. :p

[hushypushy]

that's funny, it reminds me how retarded my CD collection is.

i guess i own at least 150 CDs, which is the most i have ever been able to buy. i have 100+ burned albums and a few hundred more that are uh....obtained :innocent:

where the hell do you get so much money from industrian? well, i guess if you're living at a relative's house and your parents are paying for school, not much to worry about as far as overhead expenses, eh? oh how i wish i could return to those days...

[industrian]

where the hell do you get so much money from industrian? well, i guess if you're living at a relative's house and your parents are paying for school, not much to worry about as far as overhead expenses, eh? oh how i wish i could return to those days...

SAAS (http://www.saas.gov.uk/) pays my tution fees during undergraduate study. When I get around to postgraduate study then these guys (http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Home) pay for it. :) Gotta love it.

That and my parents don't expect rent from me when I live with them and they paid my rent for the first two years I was at university. The last half of 2005 I paid my own rent and had a massive lack of funds. Most of my stuff (sans the PS2/GC games) was bought between the summers of 2003-05. I should really have a better savings plan. >_>

Yeah, I'm living at a relative's house right now. It sucks. Hopefully my girlfriend won't move back to Southampton and we can get a flat together. If not... f**k it. Homelessness has it's perks.

[MaZa]

Wow. This guy is playing Dark Funerals - Arrival Of Satans Empire on 125% Tempo! Melodic parts sound better than in original speed. :)

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1052921423660860506&q=dark+funeral&pl=true

[Cid Highwind]

Pretty impressive video you have there MaZa, but isn't there a way for him to speed up the video as a whole? :p

[MaZa]

Huh? Now i dont understand what you mean. oO

[Cid Highwind]

It's called video editing, you can speed things up that way right? :p

[MaZa]

OH! Sorry, im bit aloof today. :) (*smack* stupid me!) Back to bed it seems... :lol:

[Cid Highwind]

lol

Btw, check this Yngwie F*ing Malmsteen video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-277754418948606994&q=Yngwie&pl=true) :D

Or why not just the whole G3 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3593623584137678217&q=Yngwie&pl=true) stuff :guitar:

[MaZa]

The guitar god himself! I got his guitar-lesson video somewhere, IIRC that clip is from it. :guitar:

[hushypushy]

have you guys ever seen any yngwie guitar lesson tapes? they are ridiculous.

he basically plays these insane solos and then looks at you, like "ok, now you try!". there is a way cool one called arpeggios from hell, its pretty funny. i love how its even accented by a drum machine.

[MaZa]

They are aimed for experienced audience who already have some experience on metal guitar playing. The full video i have has pretty accurate explanations and shows. Like tremolo playing, starting from basic quick riff advancing to more complex.

[industrian]

To hell with Yngwie, Vai or Satch.

Forget Hammett, Rhodes or Eddie VH.

Check out TEH REEL GITAR HERO (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIUnvAFbsK0)!!!

:D

[Aided Onslaught]

http://www.metalagesmedia.com/marcel/race.rm

http://www.metalagesmedia.com/marcel/video/newrace.wmv

http://www.marcelcoenen.com/ (main site)

This guy seems to have the most rounded guitar sound if you ask me, trust me and check him out.

p.s. Why is Yngwie so fat on g3 but his looks skinny on the new cd he put out last year? I mean really he is going back and forth faster than oprah

[hushypushy]

yngwie is goofy as hell, man :lol:

my favorite guitarists of all time are, in no particular order: Adam Jones, Josh Homme, Kurt Cobain, Tom Morello, and Buckethead.

[Aided Onslaught]

I'm yet to understand the Kurt Cobain thing. If anything I believe he lowered the standarts of music by far, he did he have some cool sounding riffs, yes I give him that(not really a high number for me but whatever), but his stuff is thing you would teach a guitar player that just started, yet he gets praised as if he were playing for 2000 years and jesus tought him. I think that's why it bothers me so much.

[hushypushy]

well i also like him because of his singing too, that's a big up in that category. i believe he created a lot of powerful songs. it's not just the notes he played, it's the way he played them. it's the time he played them; the grunge revolution. he never made anything super complex and amazing, he wasn't out there writing Dragonforce solos or anything like that. but he made simple (and i mean WAY SIMPLE) riffs sound amazing, both on the album and unplugged.

i have a lot of respect for bands that can take simple riffs and make them sound good. punk bands use easy riffs, but they sound like crap. Nirvana and system of a down (from steal this album and earlier only) are two good examples. their songs are very easy to play on guitar yet they still have a lot of depth and emotion.

especially the emotion. man, i love to hear emotion coming through the music, and Kurt does that to me. and it helps that i am big into grunge/stoner rock, too. i like that feeling that you know a human being is playing guitar, ya know? my favorite guitar solo is We Will Rock You...the way Brian May wails on that solo....man.

[ShadowDancer]

Is SOD (System of a Down) really metal? Their earlier stuff seems more metal but I don't know about their latest CD.....

I'm listening to the Mesmerize CD right now actually and one song has electronic voices or something and then this other song switches to a reggae beat. WTF

[industrian]

Is SOD (System of a Down) really metal? Their earlier stuff seems more metal but I don't know about their latest CD.....

I'm listening to the Mesmerize CD right now actually and one song has electronic voices or something and then this other song switches to a reggae beat. WTF

Those two albums polarised the SoaD fanbase right down the middle. I think they're alright. Nothing beats Toxicity though.

As for Kurt Cobain ... he was a tool. Still, he delivered us from hair metal.

[Aided Onslaught]

SOAD is nu-metal, the only nu age band I can really stand.

About the Cobain thing, I just wish people wouldn't praise him (I honestly think people do it because he died and they feel wrong if they don't say what the media said about him) as a guitar player, a song writer? okay sure. I mean being put in front of clapton as a guitar player on VH1 (not that they did the top 100 metal things right either) is just wrong. I also see clapton as more of a song writer than a guitar player though.

PS. Thanks for not flipping out when I said what I said, people just wing out when I say how I feel about dead people. haha

[Cid Highwind]

I have nothing against Cobain or Nirvana, I think their music does have something special. The thing I can not stand are those 15 year old Nirvana fanboys who worship him, walk around with shirts and think it's the best thing ever made, while the only song they know is Smell like Teen Spirit :rolleyes:

That's also one of the reasons why I can't be arsed to take a closer look at the band, I just feel I won't fit in with the fanboys :p

[industrian]

My favourite guitarists are: Hammett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Hammett) (wah-wah pedal addict :D), Ian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Ian), Vai (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Vai), Bettencourt (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuno_Bettencourt), Shankle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Shankle), Kruspe (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Kruspe-Bernstein) (the guy just looks badass), Bradfield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Dean_Bradfield) (Motorcycle Emptiness = greatest riff ever) and Rhoads (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Rhoads) (Man, he KICKED ASS.)

As for Nirvana. My favourite Nirvana song is "About a Girl." Typical reaction from a "Nirvana fan" when that song is mentioned is just a weird empty gaze. I F**KING HATE the hollow "I HAVE A PICTURE OF COBAIN ON MY WALL, I'M SO COOL!!" types. Maybe that's why I don't like Cobain, I'm not sure. Gotta admit, the Unplugged CD was awesome.

As for my favourite guitarists list, check out this video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2781148746401814184) of Nuno Bettencourt and his old Extreme buddies jamming and playing "More Than Words." (Well, he's jamming until about 5 minutes though.) Check out "Pornographitti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme_II:_Pornograffiti)" if you need further proof of Bettencourt's skill. The intro to "He-Man Woman Hater" is freaking AWESOME.

[Emucase01]

awww nice thread. nebody into hardcore/death stuff. lately i been listening to the number twelve looks like you. Between the buried and me. the acacia strain, dead to fall. etc. ne fans?

[Emucase01]

nd as for guitar gods.....Buckethead all the way dude. hes insane

[hushypushy]

i like Cobain a lot in ways i can't describe. i like his playing, his singing, his style. i love the man. i love his journal--i love reading his stupid crap where he drew pics of him, dave, and kris on T-Shirts and wrote stuff like "new nirvana shirts! don't buy this ****!"

by the way, dont say SOD. that's Stormtroopers of Death (who arent bad either..). SOAD is system of a down. and like i said, pre-Steal This Album. Mezmerize is very cool, but it's not old soad at all (i seem to remember this discussion with, hmm, LOAD AND METALLICA only like a day ago..). i can safely say i enjoy Mezmerize a lot. however, Hyponotize has a couple redeeming songs, and it sucks. i have all their other albums (multiple versions of each one, because i was a soad freak, i was even in a soad cover band), but i refuse to buy hypnotize. it's not worth it.

i dont get why people dont like music because of fanboys. isnt it the MUSIC and the MEMBERS of the band you like? i love system of a down, and i love the members. i hate system of a down fans. here in california (where soad is from) it's atrocious. i love metallica a lot. i hate metallica fans (especially the "post 87 sux" group..grrr).

and keep in mind folks, i said "favorite" guitarists. i didnt say "best". i'm pretty sure Eric Clapton is a "better" guitarist than, say Daron Malakian (of SOAD), but do i necessarily like him better? hey, i love clapton, but i really groove to SOAD.

[Emucase01]

SOAD's new stuff i think is pretty bad. i think its a little TOO much of a change from the old nd good system of a down i used to love. First album is deffinatly the best. im sorta stuck on whos second best ( steal this album or toxicity). i just think daron sung a little too much, even though he basically started the band, system of a down was still way better when serj took up all of the vocals. songs like needles nd others sound alright with that little hint of daron but there new stuff is friggen daron overkill.

[industrian]

Toxicity is always gonna be the height of SoaD. Their double album produced some good stuff (Holy Mountains, Kill Rock 'N Roll, B.Y.O.B., Revenga, Violent Pornography, Sad Statue, Soldier Side...) but nothing compares to the genius of Chop Suey!, Deer Dance or Atwa.

and keep in mind folks, i said "favorite" guitarists. i didnt say "best". i'm pretty sure Eric Clapton is a "better" guitarist than, say Daron Malakian (of SOAD), but do i necessarily like him better? hey, i love clapton, but i really groove to SOAD.

No s**t. Obviously Mr. Clapton is some sort of lesser demon on the 6-string, but when it comes to appropriate riffage, James Hetfield does the damage (well, before 2003 he did.)

I've been listening to ReLoad for a few hours. Fuel & The Memory Remains = some sort of godly double team.

FORTUNE, FAME, MIRROR-VAIN, GONE INSANE...

[hushypushy]

i think self titled was their best, then steal this album second, then toxicity. it's close though, i love all three. back in the day i remember sitting down with my guitar and literally playing the entire album all the way through. good times.

nowadays, it is way too much daron. he's cool for flavor, but other than that, it pisses me off. Serj has a great voice, HE SHOULD SING. damn. the unmastered version of Steal This Album is fantastic--it doesnt have any overlapped guitar, and no daron vocals.

industrian: first 4 tracks of Reload rock. i cant stand the rest of the tracks. they should've just merged the last 9 tracks into one, because they all sound the same anyway :p

PS. eric clapton gave guitar lessons to Buckethead. pretty sweet.

[MT]

but the memory remaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiins! :D

RAGE ROXOR! :D
OMG cid i've got the video! kudos again! :)

plus that, I'm now listening to Lacuna Coil and Apocalyptica. :D

[industrian]

first 4 tracks of Reload rock. i cant stand the rest of the tracks. they should've just merged the last 9 tracks into one, because they all sound the same anyway :p

Low Man's Lyric (well, a midi of Low Man's Lyric) helped me to get into Metallica's music back in 98/99. I like that song the best outta ReLoad. One of my old friends could play that (and "One" on the bagpipes.)

My favourite Metallica song still is "Disposable Heroes" though. Nothing beats it... but Enter Sandman comes close.

but the memory remaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaiiiins! :D

DANCE LITTLE TIN GODDESS!!! :D

RAGE ROXOR! :D
OMG cid i've got the video! kudos again! :)

Upload the Freedom Call video Cid. :p I got tons of bandwidth left.

[ShadowDancer]

Hehe sorry, yeah SOAD... and yeah Daron is singing too damn much. But you can't deny the genius of SOAD when they have a song about their c0ck and "pogo stick" :p

I have the same preference with industrian and agree that Toxicity is their best stuff. I can listen to that CD over and over.

[MT]

DANCE LITTLE TIN GODDESS!!! :D
:D:D:D
LA LALALA LA LALALA, LALA LALALA :D

Btw industrian, have you listened to Apocalyptica already? :)

I have the same preference with industrian and agree that Toxicity is their best stuff. I can listen to that CD over and over.
Toxicity (chop suey!, needles, bounce, ATWA zomg, and Aerials. ah, Pshycho too) and the first album (Suggestions and Spiders). And maybe that "Steal This Album!" (Innervision, Bubbles and Roulette).
Now these new albums... I don't like them. Its sounding poser. :\

[hushypushy]

since when did we talk about Apocalyptica? i love apocalyptica! Reflections was an amazing album, their original material is awesome.

[MT]

since when did we talk about Apocalyptica? i love apocalyptica! Reflections was an amazing album, their original material is awesome.
Inquisition Symphony too. :)

Yep, I mentioned apocalyptica cause I was saying about metallica... But have you listened to The Angry String Orchestra? They made a lot of covers of metallica, but it does not have the same quality that Apocaliptica has imo.

If you haven't, try it. At least Master of Puppets. =)

[hushypushy]

ehhh, i am so weary of string bands. they all suck. there are string tributes to everything these days.

but Apocalyptica.....man. i remember when i bought Inquisition Sympony, i was supremely impressed.

[Cid Highwind]

Hushy, the fact that there are so many of those 'omg I'm depressed gotta cut myself with nirvana on the background' kids listening to their music just makes me turn away from it. Not saying it's bad music, but I just never got to the point of where I'd get myself an album and start listening, like I have with so many other bands.

Freedom Call video will be online tonight, I've got a day of busy gaming to do so I won't be home :p

[hushypushy]

dang, you're missing out. i remember listening to nirvana in like, 7th grade.

i dunno, if you have a chance, get an album. get Nevermind, see what all the fuss is about. you can easily distance yourself from those nirvana fans you hate--just remind yourself that you're not one of them ;)

[industrian]

Hehe sorry, yeah SOAD... and yeah Daron is singing too damn much. But you can't deny the genius of SOAD when they have a song about their c0ck and "pogo stick" :p

Cigaro and Bounce. For sheer "WTFness" SoaD are up there, as witnessed in "Sugar."

THE KOMBUCHA MUSHROOM PEOPLE
SITTING AROUND ALL DAY
WHO can believe you,
WHO can believe you,
Let your mother pray...

Btw industrian, have you listened to Apocalyptica already? :)

I've heard of them, but none of their stuff. I know that they started off as a string tribute to Metallica.

Hushy, the fact that there are so many of those 'omg I'm depressed gotta cut myself with nirvana on the background' kids listening to their music just makes me turn away from it. Not saying it's bad music, but I just never got to the point of where I'd get myself an album and start listening, like I have with so many other bands.

I own every Nirvana album with the exception of Nevermind. It's not that it's a bad album (on the contrary, it has a couple of awesome songs on it) but it's just that when I lived with two 16 year old girls a few years back (before anyone says anything I want to state for the record that it was the least erotic thing ever - I was more their "dad" than anything else) they were both "Nirvana fans." As in: they had posters of Kurt on their walls, they listened to their two "favourite bands" (Nirvana and Avril Lavigne) constantly and generally spoke about how they "loved" Kurt.

Then when I sat down one day and listened to Bleach and In Utero, they didn't even know WHO I WAS LISTENING TO. I mean, WTF. I just knew that if I had both owned a copy of and listened to Nevermind, then they would think I am "one of them." You know, the kind of people who wear Nirvana hoodies along with "Simple Plan" t-shirts. Or the kind of people who bought Bleach because there was a "this was Nirvana's first album" sticker on it and then were DISAPPOINTED that there was no Smells Like Teen Spirit on it. ARGH!!!

Then again I'm not a Nirvana fan. If you want real fireworks then put a true Nirvana fan in the same room as a poser and put on Smells Like Teen Spirit. Best contact sport you can get. :D

ehhh, i am so weary of string bands. they all suck. there are string tributes to everything these days.

You know there are too many string tribute bands when Manowar has a few. Imagine "Hail & Kill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG1Bo5DfWlY)" only using strings ... ... ... wait a sec, that sounds AWESOME.

[hushypushy]

every tribute band sucks. sure there are some good songs, but by and large, they all piss me off.

there's a difference between playing covers, and being a tribute band/releasing a tribute album.

by the way, i forgot to mention this, but this weekend i've been listening to Tool's new song, "Vicarious" nonstop. anyone else heard it? into Tool? man, i worship tool.

[industrian]

every tribute band sucks. sure there are some good songs, but by and large, they all piss me off.[

there's a difference between playing covers, and being a tribute band/releasing a tribute album.

I don't mind "tribute complimations" but really, they are just awful imitations for the most part. And whoever green-lighted this (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007PALXO/sr=8-16/qid=1145296528/ref=sr_1_16/104-5345843-0657541?%5Fencoding=UTF8) deserves to be shot.

BTW: Laibach arguably are a cover band. They have covered Live is Life, One Vision, Final Countdown, Jesus Christ Superstar, In The Army Now, Sympathy for the Devil, etc and the ENTIRE "Let It Be (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000003Z5T/ref=sr_11_1/104-5345843-0657541?%5Fencoding=UTF8)" album (sans the title track and adding a new "Maggie Mae.") But their way of playing those songs, enhancing them where it could be and converting it to their own musical style is extremely remarkable and is used (in some places) to unveil really subversive stuff in the songs themselves. Go and listen to "Geburt Einer Nation" and you'll understand.

To add to that point: anyone who just covers something and doesn't add their own sound or "charm" to it is just an arsehole. Johnny Cash at least added his own image to "Hurt", so he gets two thumbs up from me.

man, i worship tool.

I never would have guessed it. ;) I've never listened to Tool. Ever.

[MT]

I don't like cover bands, but I like when bands do covers. :p
Like when Sonata covered Helloween's I Want Out and Graveworm got Iron's Fear of The Dark. :)

Nirvana eh? A lot of time ago...

THE KOMBUCHA MUSHROOM PEOPLE
SITTING AROUND ALL DAY
WHO can believe you,
WHO can believe you,
Let your mother pray...
You can't imagine how many good memories it brings to me... =)

"The ships are multiplying day after day sir,
And they’re coming close to the shore sir, shore sir,
We need to evacuate the light post
It's all over!
Ooovaaar!"

(:D)

[Cid Highwind]

dang, you're missing out. i remember listening to nirvana in like, 7th grade.

i dunno, if you have a chance, get an album. get Nevermind, see what all the fuss is about. you can easily distance yourself from those nirvana fans you hate--just remind yourself that you're not one of them ;)
Hehe, I'll keep that in mind, and hell no, I'm not one of them, most of them kiddies probably flee in terror once they see the almighty Stefan Fiore open his mouth to unleash a wall of terror :evil:

And Mire, you selected a couple of nice covers, have you also heard how Graveworm covered Losing my Religion by R.E.M. ? That cover is brilliant. I once put it on when my mom was in my room:

During the intro: "Oh this ain't too bad"

When the double bass kicks in and Stefan starts singing: "PLEASE MAKE IT STOP!"

:D

Within ten minutes I'll have the new video uploaded.


New video

Freedom Call - Land of the Light (http://home.planet.nl/~vos10272/music/Freedom Call%20-%20Land%20of%20the%20Light.rar)

I hope you guys like it :D

Next video: Sonata Arctica - Misplaced, live in Hof ter Lo, Antwerpen, Sept 23, 2005, so Mire, hurry up ;)

[hushypushy]

industrian, i'm pretty surprised you've never listened to Tool. they aren't obscure or secretive or any goofy crap like that. even the fans are generally mild mannered and "normal" (if that comes across correctly..).

[industrian]

industrian, i'm pretty surprised you've never listened to Tool. they aren't obscure or secretive or any goofy crap like that. even the fans are generally mild mannered and "normal" (if that comes across correctly..).

A couple of my friends are into them. Didn't they do a Bill Hicks tribute or something?

BTW: Cid, i'm downloading the video and I'll put it onto my host straight after.

Freedom Call - Land of the Light (http://www.rpgdesign.com/cid/Freedom Call - Land of the Light.rar)

Feel free to put up the Sonata Arctica video now. :D

[Cid Highwind]

Here we go,


Release info

Compression method:
VirtualDub v1.6.14
DivX 6.1.1. @ 512 kbit/s
Lame MP3 codec 32kHz - 192kbps mono

Original filesize: 135 MB
Compressed size: 33.1 MB

Here's one old release of mine, to celebrate the fact that I'll be seeing these gods again the 28th of April and the 11th of May. This video was actually the first one I made at a concert, also my position wasn't that good, as I stood in the middle of the crowd in the front. But I must say that it was the best concert I have ever been to, even better than the Dragonforce gig and my previous one with Rage and Freedom Call. Symphorce really knows how to start a party, so expect to see a video of theirs as well very soonish. Meanwhile, enjoy this release,

Cheers,

Cid H.

I hope you guys enjoy it, and with two concerts of them coming up, I'll be sure to make some more videos. This time I'm not gonna waste space on other bands. Anyone ever heard of Doro? I know that Altaria is Jani's old band.

Sonata Arctica - Misplaced (http://home.planet.nl/~vos10272/music/SonataArctica-Misplaced.rar)

Oh and for all you guys who like this: Visit their shows and buy their upcoming dvd, it's way better ;)

[industrian]

Keyboard guitar = awesome. Keyboard guitar solo = :D

BTW: I've hosted that video here (http://www.rpgdesign.com/cid/SonataArctica-Misplaced.rar).

Further Edit: Dragonforce - Fury of the Storm now hosted (http://www.rpgdesign.com/cid/Dragonforce 05-03-2006Fury.rar).

[Cid Highwind]

Man I can't wait to see my gods again this friday :D

Here are some really nice videos I found at google for you guys.

Sonata Arctica - Weballergy (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7183713388156726081&q=sonata+arctica&pl=true): A good example of how Tony used to sing back in 2001, just take a look at the Tavastia gig and you can see how much progress they have made over the years. Great song nonetheless. :)

Sonata Arctica - Black Sheep (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5135624515459291279&q=sonata+arctica&pl=true): That solo ROCKS, it really shows Jani's shredding skills :)

Sonata Arctica - Misplaced (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1728814654642348337&q=sonata+arctica&pl=true): I just watched this video, and it's from exactly the same show as my own video, the biggest difference being her crapass sound quality, it really made me appreciate my own camera again. She had a better position though, lucky biatch >_<

Sonata Arctica live at Tavastia (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7680783903760731245&q=sonata+arctica&pl=true) The best video I have seen of the guys so far. I ripped all the music from that video, want me to upload it? :innocent:

Here's the link to the old video Industrian, Dragonforce - Fury of the Storm (http://home.planet.nl/~vos10272/music/Dragonforce 05-03-2006Fury.rar)

[hushypushy]

Keyboard guitar = awesome.

keytar yo!!!

man, the necrophagist show is coming up in a couple weeks. man, im so excited! :D

[Cid Highwind]

Sore neck: CHECK
Headache: CHECK
Completely destroyed voice: CHECK

That show kicked major arse :D

We missed out on Altaria because of being slightly late, but we did get to see Doro, and by the looks of it we were 20 years late for her :p

Doro wasn't anything special, after having seen Symphorce for support for Sonata this was one big disappointment. Just plain hardrock/heavy metal with a female vocalist. Not my glass of beer....

After a while Sonata finally appeared on stage. Kickin' off with Misplaced of course. I'll put up a full review later, on my blog, cause I'm really a bit too tired to write everything fully detailed. I'll also include some stuff on the trip, about some white chicks, great fickingflesh, but other than that not worth much :rolleyes:

I managed to make a video, even though filming and making pictures wasn't allowed. I can tell you, I went thru hell... That medly took longer than I expected, about 9 minutes oO The video is unfortunately the worst one I made so far. Sound quality is pretty good, but everything is really shaky and out of focus because of standing in the back of the place. On top of that it's going to take a while to download for 56k because it's almost 10 minutes long.

The Medley

We made time for some songs we don't usually play. Or just 10 minutes of jerking off like Henkka like to say.

[Cid Highwind]

http://www.metalagesmedia.com/marcel/race.rm

http://www.metalagesmedia.com/marcel/video/newrace.wmv

http://www.marcelcoenen.com/ (main site)

This guy seems to have the most rounded guitar sound if you ask me, trust me and check him out.

p.s. Why is Yngwie so fat on g3 but his looks skinny on the new cd he put out last year? I mean really he is going back and forth faster than oprah
Last night a couple of friends of mine were talking about how a friend of theirs made it into his band Suncaged as the new bass player.

Btw, I finished the concert review, click teh sig for el bloggo.

Video uploaded, sorry Mire, couldn't make it much smaller without having to sacrifice too much quality.
SONATA ARCTICA - THE MEDLEY (http://home.planet.nl/~vos10272/music/SonataArctica28-04-2006.rar)

[Chrono Archangel]

Well guys, last night was a freakin good show! Me and Nev we're at The Medley to see DragonForce (ohh and I really think he's trying to avoid me :S... never saw hime there >_<)

Aniway, the show had its ups and downs. Icewind opened up the show... the potential is there but my god the sound was horrible. They really need to hire some professionnal sound techs...

Sanctity (http://www.myspace.com/sanctity) followed. Not the best, but liked it. Vocals were abit borderline... but great riffs.

Now the disaster of this show was Protest The Hero (http://www.myspace.com/protestthehero). Stupid Punk/Metal ****.... (The guitarist and bassist are insane....but it doesnt make up for the crap they do...) People were chanting "DragonForce" during their songs. They got booed and all.
Basicly it pissed everyone off.

DragonForce took a while to get on stage... seemed like an eternity. But man were they good! Hermann nailed almost to perfection most of his solos. At one point they (Herman, Sam and Fred) played each others instruments (hard to explain, i hope Nev took some pics :P)
For "Through Fire and Flames" the singer split the room in half and when the song started, everyone collided to make a huge mosh pit.... Insane :)
We also got an insane keyboard solo (which you can find on Google Video)

Aniway, one of the best shows ive seen. Beats Arch Enemy any day (saw them the day before. It was good, but no where near DragonForce's performance)

[Cid Highwind]

Cool to hear your story Chrono :D

I still remember that insane solo as well, did they play the Simpsons tune in it as well? These guys are definately a class of their own. A couple of questions though:

- How drunk was Sam? :lol:
- How were the vocals?

Here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5943562866894667315&q=dragonforce&pl=true) you can find that insane video. I love the shredding part by Herman that ends by holding his guitar high by the tremolo.

[Cid Highwind]

lol, look what I found about Dragonforce:


- Little does everyone know, Dragonforce was the first metal band. Before Dragonforce, there was no metal. In fact, before Dragonforce, men lived in caves and hunted their prey.

- There are two types of metal: nu metal, and Dragonforce.

- A new study conducted by professors at Harvard University shows that Dragonforce is the only band worth listening to.

- During a show, Dragonforce once played so fast, the sound waves from the speakers ripped the skin off their fans.

- At another show, Dragonforce played so fast, they broke the speed of light, traveled back in time, and ripped a hole in the Titanic, causing it to sink. So now, before shows, Dragonforce's manager injects them with horse tranquilizer which dramatically slows them down in order to avoid such tragedies from occuring again.

- The originators of Sonic the Hedgehog got the idea for the name of the character from the second Dragonforce album, Sonic Firestorm. How this was done before Dragonforce ever formed has yet to be determined.

- When someone who hasn't heard Dragonforce asks you what they sound like, just tell them that Dragonforce is like Manowar (minus the loin-cloths and assless chaps, they're saving those for album number four) at 200 mph, times infinity to the bajillionth power

- As if Dragonforce isn't fast enough, they once played a show while addicted to speed...There were no survivors.

- Whenever there is a threat to our homeland security, the President calls upon Dragonforce to save the day. They arrive in a homemade jet called the Dragonheart, riding with fire burning hot towards the night sky, and use all their might to slay the terrorists and fly off above the winter moonlight...but not before getting boozed and gangbanging the first daughter.

- Herman Li's hair is so long, he once clothed himself with it and nobody noticed he wasn't wearing anything.

- Herman Li's hair is so long, his windmill headbang is considered a deadly weapon, and he is not allowed on airplanes.

- Herman Li's hair is so long, he can swing it around in circles and propel himself into the air.

- In the race between the tortoise and the hare, Dragonforce won.

- When Sam Totman entered a beer drinking contest, they declared someone else as the winner, but only because Sam had finished his beers so fast, no one could see him do it.

- Dragonforce is so fast, that one time their manager made them play a gig under water to slow them down. But his plan backfired, as the motion of their fingers caused a miniature tsunami that drowned all their fans.

- Whenever you hear the sound of thunder in the sky, it's not the weather acting up. It's Dragonforce performing a private show for Elvis. 'Cause Elvis is down with the D-Force.

- A revolutionary new dog whistle has just been released on the market. When you blow it, the sound of ZP's voice comes out.

- Dragonforce taught David Lee Roth how to jump really high in his music videos.

- "The Shredder" from the Ninja Turtles was obviously a fan of Herman Li.

- Leading psychologists have conducted a new study that has determined that exposure to Dragonforce's highly uplifting melodies at an early age has greatly decreased suicide rates.

- Dragonforce's music is like a conga dance: 1, 2, 3, and kick every other power metal band's ass.

- Every member of Dragonforce has special powers. Sam has Medusa pants. Anyone who looks at his white, skin-tight jeans is immediately turned to stone. Herman has the "power of hair" which allows him to fly and to eliminate inferior musicians from a distance. Dave kicks the **** out of people at a rate of fifty kicks to the face per second. Vadim's holy jeans are so mesmerizing, they stun his nu-metal enemies while he tears out every one of their veins and uses them as piano strings. ZP has the power of "balls in a vice grip" wich allows him to put his enemies' balls into a vice grip...

- When something is a little dull or plain, it either needs more cowbell, or more Dragonforce.

- Dragonforce steals the coins out from under children's pillows when they lose a tooth and blow it all on booze and hookers.

- The real reason Adrian left was because Sam was hogging all the beer and would attempt to do solos on ketchup bottles during gigs.

- In a race between a Ferrari and a Lamborgini, Dragonforce wins.

- The only two things visible from space with the naked eye are the Great Wall Of China and Herman Li's hair.

- Dragonforce tends to destroy all the buildings in which they play due to sonic booms.

- Ever since 1999, the year Dragonforce formed, sonic boom related deaths have risen tenfold.

- There's real music, and then there's Dragonforce. Dragonforce doesn't qualify as "real" music, because their skills are so godlike, their music couldn't possibly be created by man, and so it must be unreal.

- One time, Dragonforce played a gig near Mt. St. Helens in Washington state. A sonic boom from their speakers caused one whole side of the mountain to blow up. Little do most people know, that volcano was completely dormant.

- Historians made an important discovery this week when they discovered hidden documents from a thousand years ago, written by William the Conqueror. They appear to be part of his personal diary. In it, he writes his personal thoughts, opinions, and justifications for all of his conquests. He states that the true reason for his invasion of England was so he could go see Dragonforce.

- Chuck Norris listens to Dragonforce. 'Nuff said.
LINK (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/artists/DragonForce/)

[Chrono Archangel]

Cool to hear your story Chrono :D

I still remember that insane solo as well, did they play the Simpsons tune in it as well? These guys are definately a class of their own. A couple of questions though:

- How drunk was Sam? :lol:
- How were the vocals?

Here (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5943562866894667315&q=dragonforce&pl=true) you can find that insane video. I love the shredding part by Herman that ends by holding his guitar high by the tremolo.

Yeah he played the Simposons Theme :D
Sam was pretty "happy" near the end....so yeah, he had alot to drink.
As for the vocals, they sounded great. :guitar:

I'll check the video out when i get home.

[Cid Highwind]

FYI, the Sonata video has been removed from my own spot, here's the link to Industrian's place: Sonata Arctica - The Medley (http://www.rpgdesign.com/cid/SonataArctica28-04-2006.rar)

[MaZa]

lol, look what I found about Dragonforce:


LINK (http://www.roadrunnerrecords.co.uk/artists/DragonForce/)



Oh my god... Revival of Chuck Norris jokes... :lol:

[industrian]

Oh my god... Revival of Chuck Norris jokes... :lol:

Yeah, I'm running to the hills. :D

[Nevermore]

Well guys, last night was a freakin good show! Me and Nev we're at The Medley to see DragonForce (ohh and I really think he's trying to avoid me :S... never saw hime there >_<)

Aniway, the show had its ups and downs. Icewind opened up the show... the potential is there but my god the sound was horrible. They really need to hire some professionnal sound techs...

Sanctity (http://www.myspace.com/sanctity) followed. Not the best, but liked it. Vocals were abit borderline... but great riffs.

Now the disaster of this show was Protest The Hero (http://www.myspace.com/protestthehero). Stupid Punk/Metal ****.... (The guitarist and bassist are insane....but it doesnt make up for the crap they do...) People were chanting "DragonForce" during their songs. They got booed and all.
Basicly it pissed everyone off.

DragonForce took a while to get on stage... seemed like an eternity. But man were they good! Hermann nailed almost to perfection most of his solos. At one point they (Herman, Sam and Fred) played each others instruments (hard to explain, i hope Nev took some pics :P)
For "Through Fire and Flames" the singer split the room in half and when the song started, everyone collided to make a huge mosh pit.... Insane :)
We also got an insane keyboard solo (which you can find on Google Video)

Aniway, one of the best shows ive seen. Beats Arch Enemy any day (saw them the day before. It was good, but no where near DragonForce's performance)

Yeah I had a mask made out of transformers.

I just returned home from that and I Have to say that Dragonforce melted my brain. \m/

[industrian]

I just returned home from that and I Have to say that Dragonforce melted my brain. \m/

I don't think anyone would have noticed. ;)

[Nevermore]

I don't think anyone would have noticed. ;)

omg WHAT YOU SAY?!

[industrian]

omg WHAT YOU SAY?!

You have no chance to survive make your time.

[Cid Highwind]

Sonata ROCKED!! again ;)

I was already having a sore throat so couldn't sing along, screaming went fine though, but I had to pay for that after the show. I couldn't even say 5 words without coughing.

The show was great again, it wasn't as hot like last time so that helped as well. They had the same setlist, no problem though because it is pretty good imo. The show was pretty much the same in terms of performance as well, except for Tallulah sounding a bit better, which I happened to have recorded :evil:

During the beginning of their show I saw two of them security gorillas take away a guy with a camera, that kinda scared me. I didn't really feel like filming last night. But I decided to give it a try during Tallulah because I saw a nice spot, and made a promise to that cutie from the gig two weeks ago, who didn't have tickets for this show :( Will see her next week so maybe I can post a pic again.

Even though I didn't feel like risking my Tallulah video by recording another complete song I decided to just take the Wolf and Raven part of Blank Raven. So I basicly have the part from the guitar solo till the end, and it sure was worth it :D I'll upload the stuff later today.

[Cid Highwind]

Here it is:

Sonata Arctica - Tallulah (http://home.planet.nl/~vos10272/music/Sonata Arctica-Tallulah-11-05-2006.rar) Live from De Boerderij, The Netherlands ;)

I hope you guys will enjoy it.

[Aided Onslaught]

very nice cid, that is one of my favorite song by them to just sit down and sway to, haha. Very clear sound and decent picture, thanks for sharing the show

[Cid Highwind]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it :)

I made another small video of Wolf and Raven when played during their mash up of Blank File and WnR (called Blank Raven), it starts during the solo of WnR, get it here (http://www.rpgdesign.com/cid/SonataArctica-WolfnRaven11-05-2006.rar)

[MaZa]

Here is video of Borknagar - Colossus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L75EgBXWfuU&search=colossus

Music is progressive black/Viking Metal, singer fully in clear Vocals. Singer is ICS Vortex/Simen Hestnaes which might be familiar name to some. BEST clean vocals i have ever heard.

[Chrono Archangel]

hmmmim not a big fan of clean vocals... but it does sound ok i guess, well at least better than most bands that tries to do clean vocals

[Cid Highwind]

Interesting song MaZa, not really my kind of music, but I don't hate it either :)

[MaZa]

Im not fan of clean vocs either, depending in music style that is, but Vortex is really excellent! Not the typical high-pitched squeeze-ma-ballz clean vocals common in powermetal, but more omnipotent majestic or something. This guy is also behind of clean vocs of later Dimmu Borgir and sings in Arcturus too nowadays.

[MaZa]

More Borknagar


Inherit The Earth. Later Borknagar with Vintersorg handling vocals.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-EqQfWnRxE&search=Borknagar


Future Reminescence. Again with Vintersorg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e31Bp46wMlM&search=Borknagar

[Cid Highwind]

Im not fan of clean vocs either, depending in music style that is, but Vortex is really excellent! Not the typical high-pitched squeeze-ma-ballz clean vocals common in powermetal, but more omnipotent majestic or something. This guy is also behind of clean vocs of later Dimmu Borgir and sings in Arcturus too nowadays.
lol, you talking about Dragonforce? xD

[MaZa]

lol, you talking about Dragonforce? xD



I errrrr... :laugh:


No really, Dragonforce isnt exactly only one with that type of vocals, but they are one very good example of it. :)



The uberclichee which i kinda like, Dimmu Borgir - Sorgens Kammer Dell II. From Stormblast remade album, Shagrath handling guitars this time too. Also drum-god Hellhammer shines here and there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7rpULrhw04&search=Dimmu%20Borgir

Dimmu Borgir - Moonchild Domain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NK-sZRXXU7c&search=Dimmu%20Borgir


One of my favbands. Immortal - Tyrants
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dThZGWqvRAA&search=Immortal

Immortal - One By One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krvpRC_GIvk&search=Immortal

[Aided Onslaught]

It's werid seeing Shagrath play guitar, but it's also very cool

Personally I like clean vocals more, just because I'm very much in to melody and it one more intrument to hum. I just want a natural sounding singing voice, if you can do high stuff, but you are only doing it to fit a style when you sound better lower...ugh.

[Chrono Archangel]

I'm pretty sure he was talking about 3 Inches of Blood :p Nothing can top that...but somehow i like those vocals

3 Inches of Blood - Deadly Sinners (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9085532055228514838&q=3+inches+of+blood)
Just love that song

[industrian]

And the birds sing no more (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT-nT9D8dsM).

[Cid Highwind]

I'm pretty sure he was talking about 3 Inches of Blood :p Nothing can top that...but somehow i like those vocals

3 Inches of Blood - Deadly Sinners (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9085532055228514838&q=3+inches+of+blood)
Just love that song
WOoooaaah!! Thanks for sharing, Cid likes, CID LIKES http://www.efx2.com/test/2336satan23.gif

[Aided Onslaught]

althought I like 3 inches of blood, does it bother anyone else when a band has two singers? It's always been something I just hated and dealt with in a band myself.

[industrian]

I plain just don't like them. Pisstake metal never is good. :p

If you like that crap I recommend you give Scotland's own Mendeed (http://www.mendeed.co.uk) a try. You might like them. If they got a real metal singer they'd kick ass. Instead they have an Emo rawk bastard vocalist. It grows on you after a while, but all I'm thinking is "Wasn't he in Finch?"

Since seeing your post on the Pictures forum though, Onslaught, I've started listening to DreamEvil. They sound good.

[Aided Onslaught]

I just I should make things a little more clear. When I said like I ment I don't mind hearing them in my friends car.

Just loaded that bands website, I really like the guitar sounds so far, very well done. I see what you mean by the vocals, I want some to sound like they passed puberty.

Awesome, I'm glad like them, some of their song I can't get into, but that's the samew ith any band.

[Chrono Archangel]

I plain just don't like them. Pisstake metal never is good. :p

If you like that crap I recommend you give Scotland's own Mendeed (http://www.mendeed.co.uk) a try. You might like them. If they got a real metal singer they'd kick ass. Instead they have an Emo rawk bastard vocalist. It grows on you after a while, but all I'm thinking is "Wasn't he in Finch?"

Since seeing your post on the Pictures forum though, Onslaught, I've started listening to DreamEvil. They sound good.

......from what i heard from the website....:spy:
sounds like metal wannabe emo kids....

[darth sephiroth]

are you sure that link doesn't work? oh it didn't :(
*goes back to listening to nightwish*

[industrian]

sounds like metal wannabe emo kids

I know. It's a shame really because they have a good guitarist and drummer.

are you sure that link doesn't work? oh it didn't :(
*goes back to listening to nightwish*

What link?

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What can I say, I'm in one of those moods. One of the greatest songs ever written. In it's purest and original form.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y8MZd-GtN0

[darth sephiroth]

oh i just read the main post :P
i wasn't aware of this thread untill now

[industrian]

If you're looking for all of Cid's videos, I've got them all hosted.

If you want them, check out his blog (the link is in his sig).

[Cid Highwind]

Which reminds me, I still have some unreleased work, Edguy, Hammerfall and Symphorce ;) Next I hope I can show some Epica stuff.

[industrian]

Industrian goes on a crusade to rectify the lack of Manowar in this thread.

Hail and Kill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLFtVqhTRM)

Black Wind, Fire and Steel (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTmR7ZcnKNk)

Nessun Dorma (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SclJmnRMLnQ)

:p

[Aided Onslaught]

wow I never really looked into manowar before, no one really ever said anything about them. But holy crap, i think I'm in love, thank you industrian for the spark. haha

[industrian]

Manowar kick ass.

Check out Kings of Metal. That album is easily one of the best metal records EVER made.

And last but not least. I'll introduce the glorious event which is the Manowar Drinking Game.

Basically, you and some like-minded metal fans get together with tons of beer. Put on a Manowar album of your choice, and every time the words "true", "blood", "kill", "enemy", "death", "warrior" or "steel" are mentioned, everybody has to down a beer. The winner is the person who manages to find their way home alright (or something to that effect.) :p

EDIT:

BTW: Here's the song that really got me into Manowar. According to Windows Media Player over December 2003 (when I started listening to them) I listened to it 90 times in that month alone. :p It's a ballad, btw, and a good one at that.

Courage (http://www.rpgdesign.com/Courage.mp3).

[Aided Onslaught]

Haha, that's great, I remember with my band (which never go to play because no one woud stay or let it go to their head for soem reason) we refused to use words like "steel", "warrior", "unicorn", "magic", well yeah you get the point. Any words that a power metal band would use.

Also anyone notice that one song Blind Guardian has that says "have to reach level 99?" That has to be one of the worse, next to hammerfalls unicon across the rainbow...ugh...

[industrian]

Unicorn?!!? UNICORN?!?! WTF sings about unicorns?!?!

[Aided Onslaught]

"Fallen Angels, arise from your graves
Free your spirits and unite
before the blood of the Unicorn colors the night
From the ruins of hell we shall rise
On The Edge Of Honour we see the light
of the Unicorn soaring the night"
Hammerfall - On The Edge Of Honour

Yep, This is why I ignore lyrics and only listen for music, no wonder tone deff america doesn't listen to this stuff.

[darth sephiroth]

i have NO idea! perhaps a band named "unicorn"? :P
i suppose i should try manowar. I'm listening to courage right now, alright stuff so far :)

i've been too concealed from the metal world with just nightwish, iron maiden and rammstein O.O

[industrian]

"Fallen Angels, arise from your graves
Free your spirits and unite
before the blood of the Unicorn colors the night
From the ruins of hell we shall rise
On The Edge Of Honour we see the light
of the Unicorn soaring the night"
Hammerfall - On The Edge Of Honour

Yep, This is why I ignore lyrics and only listen for music, no wonder tone deff america doesn't listen to this stuff.

Since the Unicorn is a national icon of Scotland I think any true metal band from here could get away with those lyrics. ;)

Hammerfall are just Manowar with a lesser vocalist, a second guitarist and relatively (well to Manowar) no talent. :D Some of their stuff is good, just don't watch the music videos.

Then again "don't watch the music videos" could go for any metal band except Rammstein. :D

THIS CALLS FOR A DUEL!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5zV-IlSvP4

[Aided Onslaught]

I agree, I only really like crimson thunder(does that make sense at all?!) and a few song from other hammerfall albums.

More serious band have some awesome videos...like umm the ones where it's just them playing. Nightwish has some cool videos with a little story.

Nevermore has some awesome guitar players (I Just can't take the vocals all the time), but the guy on the right destroyed the other guy with his full sweeps, the other guy was doing like 3 string sweeps.

[industrian]

Nevermore has some awesome guitar players (I Just can't take the vocals all the time), but the guy on the right destroyed the other guy with his full sweeps, the other guy was doing like 3 string sweeps.

I got that looking for Jag Panzer stuff. I think Broderick does guitar playing for both bands.

BTW: Check out Panzer, their album "Mechanized Warfare" is awesome.

[Cid Highwind]

Hey, watch yer tongue, Hammerfall are gods :D

Remember, a metal heart is hard to tear apart ;)

I don't like the sound of their studio recordings like I said before. Their backing vocals make my ears bleed, but listen to the One Crimson Night (live) and you will appreciate them a lot more. They're all about the live experience and singing along. Their songs might be a bit on the cheesy end of the metal spectrum but they are good musicians. Joachim has got one awesome metal voice (Hearts on Fire, live), their drummer can keep up pace and makes a nice show out of it, Stefan Elmgren can do some nice solos. They've got some really catchy tunes, making it nice 'entry level' metal but good enough to enjoy time after time when having a beer at a gig of theirs. And Glory to the Brave is one of the best ballads I know.

[Aided Onslaught]

*starts to listen to unworthy by jag panzer* YES! Thanks again! haha

[Cid Highwind]

Btw, I think you'll get hammered even sooner if you play that game whenever Dragonforce starts about war, fire and flames. They've got the worst pyromania since Beavis :p

[industrian]

*starts to listen to unworthy by jag panzer* YES! Thanks again! haha

Gregorian chants + American Power Metal = De facto awesomeness.

:p

One of the best songs ever (http://www.rpgdesign.com/Motorcycle_Emptiness.mp3).

[MaZa]

Since Lordi won Eurovision contest, a few videos from these monster-rock KISS fanatic freaks. :) WAY TO GO LORDI! You really turned those flowerhat grannies life up-side-down. :evil:

Blood Red Sandman
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5477477756459784400&q=Lordi


Devil Is A Loser
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7532615930726061413&q=Lordi


Would You Love A Monster Man?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5359488770421439033&q=Lordi

Hardrock Hallelujah
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6666637566522776701&q=Lordi

Hardrock Hallelujah semifinal of Eurovision (gotta to love the hat. :D )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0PFj9wiEZw

[Radix865]

Wohoo!!!

Finally after 40 years! And it's also good that when finally a heavymetal band goes to eurovision contest, they go out with a bang! 292 points, biggest in eurovision history! Not that I'm really a fan of Lordi, but I gotta be a little patriotic...

[MaZa]

Yeah! After all those ever-green discohit crap which has been infesting "Eurovirsi", (not to mention Jari just-came-out-of-the-closet Sillanpää with all those wings and all. AARGH!!) we though "what the hell, lets send Lordi and see what comes out". And what an outcome it was!!!! W00T!!!!!! :D


Hmm... It has been said here that Hell freezes over before Finns win in Eurovision... Is this a bad omen or something? oO

[industrian]

I watched Eurovision just for it's glorious garbage factor and Terry Wogan's hilarious commentary. I was surprised to see a GWAR-type band win it, but compared to the monstrosity that was the Russian guy's mullet, the Finns were pretty tame. :p

[MaZa]

I watched Eurovision just for it's glorious garbage factor and Terry Wogan's hilarious commentary. I was surprised to see a GWAR-type band win it, but compared to the monstrosity that was the Russian guy's mullet, the Finns were pretty tame. :p


Not to talk about his flinstones jumps and all. :laugh:

[industrian]

Not to talk about his flinstones jumps and all. :laugh:

That was nothing compared to the Deutscher Cowboys though. And the totally-hammered Dutch guy (well he was on something.)

[darth sephiroth]

that finnish song was crap, but it was just that little bit better than all the other garbage, so i voted finnland :)

[MaZa]

that finnish song was crap, but it was just that little bit better than all the other garbage, so i voted finnland :)


How so? Dont like oldskool hard rock/Heavy metal? :) Despite their goofy looks and all, their songs are good IMHO. Very unoriginal (except some lyrics. funny as hell! :lol: ) but good.

No matter, this opened up a way for other music styles to Eurovision.




...Mayhem or Satyricon in Eurovision? :spit:

[industrian]

Another reason to FEAR!!!

http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=220832006

Mayhem or Satyricon in Eurovision? :spit:

Hell with that, get Zyklon. :p

[Cid Highwind]

That was nothing compared to the Deutscher Cowboys though. And the totally-hammered Dutch guy (well he was on something.)
Hell yeah, Paul de Leeuw made me laugh my arse off :lol: Asking the host for his phone number while giving winks.

Lordi rocked the night, it was great they were acting more like a real rockband after they've won, the first two shows felt like they were taking it easy.

The devil is a loser, and he's my *****!

Love that quote :D

Btw, what's with the people calling it heavy metal? Even Bon Jovi used to rock harder in their old days. Lordi just has a heavier voice, that's all. To me it's just hardrock, heck they even sing about it themselves. I couldn't stand all the talk again about satanism and how evil heavy metal is, bloody ignorant people, why don't they get an informed opinion first.

And this was the first Eurovision that I actually liked, I also appreciated the song by those 6 guys singing "We are the winners of Eurovision!" Finally some countries have got the balls to revolutionalize this dull, corrupt festivity of arse kissing.

Why not let Italy send in Graveworm next year, they don't look as evil like Lordi, just wait till good ol' Stefan opens his mouth :evil: I'm pretty sure my grandmother will fall from her chair. How I loved poking at her when asking about Lordi and their 'monkey suits' xD

Oh and did anyone see that Turkish horse? She and her Ukrainian colleague almost made my ears bleed. And the Russian guy would make a nice standin when they need someone to do voiceovers for a talking goat.

Funny thing taken from the official Eurovision site:
And now, it’s time for the first of tonight’s Semi-Final qualifiers. It’s Dima from Russia, who performs with a newfound confidence after his success of Thursday night. Singing with all his heart, Dima really belts out this moving pop ballad and is clearly exhausted at the end. He is rewarded by screams of excitement by the girls in the crowd (and some of the boys too!). Now why doesn't that surprise me? :rolleyes:

[industrian]

And this was the first Eurovision that I actually liked, I also appreciated the song by those 6 guys singing "We are the winners of Eurovision!" Finally some countries have got the balls to revolutionalize this dull, corrupt festivity of arse kissing.

Lithuania. That song was the worst.

Oh and did anyone see that Turkish horse? She and her Ukrainian colleague almost made my ears bleed. And the Russian guy would make a nice standin when they need someone to do voiceovers for a talking goat ... Funny thing taken from the official Eurovision site: ... Now why doesn't that surprise me? :rolleyes:


The two words that spring to mind after reading that are "Dana International."

[darth sephiroth]

Lithuania. That song was the worst.
The two words that spring to mind after reading that are "Dana International."
Yeah lithuania were litterally just begging for votes, though it was a bit different from all the other crüd

and the two words springing into my mind when i read that is "verdens gang" (translated: way of the world, a norwegian tabloid crap newspaper that feeds on gossip)

[industrian]

darth sephiroth: I hate to be pedantic (actually I don't, I love being by-the-book :p) but your signature file is too big. 500*130 maximum.

... And I can't believe we're having a rational discussion about Eurovision. :p Here's some metal to get back ontopic.

Say Anything - X-Japan

http://www.rpgdesign.com/Say_Anything.wma

BTW: That song is awesome. I might get Toshi to sing it at my wedding, whenever that happens. :p

[Cid Highwind]

Lithuania ruled, sure they were hella cocky, but who cares, it's a BS festival anyway ;)

And Dana International.... hehehe, that sure caused some commotion as well xD