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Cid Highwind

February 19th, 2007, 19:25

I'd say to get the karma album if you want to get into them. I love them, awesome stuff. Metal on the radio? REAL metal on the radio? bastards...but it's getting better...I heard dragonforce on the radio. I hate America's pop culture...at least in Europe it's a little rounded (or so it seems).
Luckily, no. Though I have this odd feeling Sonata Arctica's new album Unia will get airplay here if TMF picks it up. They showed some Nightwish stuff during regular hours and Evanescence and Within Temptation are already considered pop music here. Dragonforce is very popular as well but still too extreme.

The radio station I mentioned, Aardschok FM is a Dutch webradio, powered by Aardschok (earthquake) which is one of the biggest metal magazines. Check Kink Aardschok (http://www.kinkaardschok.nl/) and click the type you want, they've got some pretty good songs from time to time.

Couldn't agree more with you and Hushy in the above posts. Hammerfall still owns Dragonforce in my book anyway. Dragonforce is a one trick pony, they're damn good at what they do but their songs don't hold any sentimental value to me. Hammerfall's got Glory to the Brave, that song almost moved me to tears during the last gig, when show came falling down on stage.

It's the song that reminds me of the mother of my best friend who passed away last summer. Cancer, took her away within 7 weeks. Same with the father of my former closest girl friend, who had fought against cancer for years as, things like that make the lyrics very fitting in honour of those wonderful persons.

Anyway, enough depressing memories. *looks up some hammerfall videos*

Edit:
Did you say Heeding the Call hushy?
I just love their drummer, when he's playing he looks like one big happy kid :P
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Also, I've been uploading some new stuff lately, dunno if I posted them here already, but here's some videos from my own Hammerfall gig the 24th of January.

Presenting...
Legacy of Kings
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Heeding the Call (for le Tank), some curtain caught fire because of the fireworks, the crowd loved it :D
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Reign of the Hammer, the instrumental song from Threshold, I love it ^^
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The gig was so much so much better than the one from their tour with Stratovarius. Mainly because they now had so much longer to play and there were fireworks. Also, the audience was ten time louder than last time, because everyone here came for Hammerfall exclusively unlike last time.

Also, as a bonus, here's a song from the previous gig, Secrets, from the Chapter 5 album.
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hushypushy

February 20th, 2007, 07:08

Sweet videos, Cid. I remember there was this one live Heeding the Call video I used to always watch, it was epic...

Cid Highwind

February 20th, 2007, 10:24

Thanks man, perhaps the one you're thinking of is from their DVD, One Crimson Night? It's one of their best songs and I pray to the Metal Gods they won't take it off their tracklist. I've said it before, and I still think it's true that Hammerfall truly shines when they're playing live.

hushypushy

February 20th, 2007, 18:48

I have no idea where it was from, but somehow it made it's way onto Kazaa and down my 56k into my heart :)

Cid Highwind

February 20th, 2007, 20:27

Kazaa + 56k were the bomb back then :D I remember downloading every single song of Bon Jovi I could find, live ones of course, not the studio versions. Back then I listened only to trance, Bon Jovi and U2, good old days.

hushypushy

February 20th, 2007, 22:49

Somehow I can't picture you listening to that :p

Aided Onslaught

February 21st, 2007, 12:10

U2?....U2!? really? I could never stand them. haha did you ever read "top worst 11 songs of 2004" by maddox? *face icon here* Anyhow, Do you still bust out the trance cd's and dusty strobe light?

industrian

February 21st, 2007, 12:44

Do you still bust out the trance cd's and dusty strobe light?

I happen to be listening to Euphoria 2 (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&token=&sql=10:wyf3zfs1eh2k) ATM. ;) I used to listen to dance music back in the day.

Aided Onslaught

February 21st, 2007, 13:09

I wasn't making fun of it, that was more of a joke. some of the dance music I hear has some pretty cool stuff going on.

industrian

February 21st, 2007, 13:29

I wasn't making fun of it, that was more of a joke. some of the dance music I hear has some pretty cool stuff going on.

Dance music died in my eyes around 2000 when some DJ realised he could make good money by paying some whore extra to provide him with some cheesy vocals. :rolleyes:

Cid Highwind

February 21st, 2007, 17:44

Couldn't agree more. In the year 2000 it really started to get bad, great songs being fecked up and inspiration was gone completely. All we heard were rehashes of old songs and '2000' versions of old dance songs. I used to record stuff on tape and make my own mixes back in those days, good stuff. Mainly from those saturday nights when I didn't go out yet. The nights with Piet Blank and Jaspa Jones (Blank and Jones) on EinsLive, a german radio station, were the best. Used to hear songs and predict I knew which songs would be hits half a year later.

As for U2: Their Best of '80 - '90 is one of the best albums I've ever heard. Forget the new stuff, it's the same with Bon Jovi.

Smooth Criminal

February 21st, 2007, 17:48

Back then I listened only to trance, Bon Jovi and U2, good old days.

i still listen to them coz every new artist is just rapping right now

hushypushy

February 21st, 2007, 19:00

U2?....U2!? really? I could never stand them. haha did you ever read "top worst 11 songs of 2004" by maddox? *face icon here* Anyhow, Do you still bust out the trance cd's and dusty strobe light?

Maddox has as much credibility as any other jerk-off on the internet with a blog.

He'll never admit it, but he has a blog. He's just as idiotic as the other online idiots that he makes fun of, the only difference is that he has a low bandwidth site that he codes by hand rather than Blogger or something.

It took me a long time to realize that Maddox is a douchebag. I just can't find him funny anymore. Maybe because I've developed and I'm more into mind expansion than talking about being "manly".

Aided Onslaught

February 21st, 2007, 21:20

I completely agree with you, but I still think he stuff is funny. I like stuff that offends, even if it's me...then again, good luck offending me. I just pointed it out cause I thought it was funny.

hushypushy

February 22nd, 2007, 03:31

Well, I could see that you weren't trying to make a point, you just brought it up. I wasn't fighting you or your argument, just Maddox ;)

Aided Onslaught

February 25th, 2007, 17:49

quick question. I myself am trying to start a band, and it's rather hard trying to find other musicians. I was wondering if I uploaded a song I've been working on, if that would be consider advertising. I simply want to help want people think about it.

Chrono Archangel

February 25th, 2007, 18:05

Upload it. I want to hear it :)

Ohh and FYI... Nightwish is going to start touring again. They found a new singer and they should reveal her name soon. At the same time, they will release a single. Wonder how it will sound :)

Aided Onslaught

February 25th, 2007, 18:24

Alright I think I uploaded it. It's called windfall.

I'm not much of a lyrics person, but I think these maybe okay for the chorus. It's about a musician losing his hearing. Ironic title, huh?

follow me, I can't bear this pain anymore
Burning in this light alone
end me, I can't hear my own scream any more
life is no more for me

edit: it's MIDI so depending on your sound card. I may upload a wav later since I have an audigy 2, and if I could get the instruments right, it would be going though my 1800 dollar keyboard...

also it's not finished.

hushypushy

February 26th, 2007, 05:39

haha MIDI. It's gonna sound different for everyone. Just encode it with the proper instruments and then get Oggdrop and put it to q-2 (yes, negative 2).

industrian

February 26th, 2007, 14:57

Ohh and FYI... Nightwish is going to start touring again. They found a new singer and they should reveal her name soon. At the same time, they will release a single. Wonder how it will sound :)

Ten pounds says that they've just found a Tarja imitator and not a totally new member of the group. :rolleyes:

Failing that they've hired Blaze Bayley. ;)

F-3582

February 26th, 2007, 20:55

I guess no one can imitate Tarja... Unless there's another former Opera soprano-ess willing to sing in front of a don't-call-us-gothic band. On the other hand, I heard that it's cold in Finland these days. So there might actually be some opera singers selling their souls to get into some warmer regions ;)

Aided Onslaught

February 26th, 2007, 21:55

Okay here is the new one in OGG. Thanks Hushy, comments please...PLEASE...

Any who, I don't know if nightwish will get a tarja clone, cause they always said they wanted someone who is more "natural". I personally don't care, as long as she doesn't sound like tarja on century child or once. terrible, and even worse live.

Chrono Archangel

February 26th, 2007, 22:52

Ten pounds says that they've just found a Tarja imitator and not a totally new member of the group. :rolleyes:

Failing that they've hired Blaze Bayley. ;)

Wouldnt surprise me if its the girl that is the lead singer in Lucca Turrili's Dreamquest. They havent revealed who she was also.
Ohh and AO, I listened to the first midi and i like it. Has a nice beat and all.

F-3582

February 26th, 2007, 23:37

Dream Quest? I thought that the star of that one was this blond chick... err... what was her name again?

Chrono Archangel

February 27th, 2007, 02:20

Dream Quest? I thought that the star of that one was this blond chick... err... what was her name again?

You're probably thinking of the girl from Leave's Eyes.... Which IMO isnt that good :S
or Doro maybe?

Aided Onslaught

February 27th, 2007, 02:36

hushypushy

February 28th, 2007, 07:06

Aided Onslaught

February 28th, 2007, 11:41

Wish I had an angel has to be one of there worse songs...

I think Hammerfall was like my second metal band I got into. I found them right after in flames, and then I found dark tranquility, and then blind guardian by searching for Dark Tranquility. It's weird I search for DT and got "and then there was silence" for BG. It was meant to happen.

industrian

February 28th, 2007, 12:23

blaze completly sucked for IM. I also feel Tim owns made both JP, and Iced earth suck (yes I'm just talking vocaly, but the music part was a bit on the low side with the new singers too it seems.

I thought the Ripper was a great vocalist. He has great "vocal charisma" (there's no real way to put it) kinda like Eric Adams. His skills as a frontman are poor though, and the fact that everyone sees him as a shadow of the Metal God himself doesn't help much. I've yet to hear any of his work outside Jugulator, Demolition and The Glorious Burden, but I'll be checking out Beyond Fear in the next few months.

As for Blaze Bayley, I've yet to hear D!ckinson sing any X-Factor songs, and that album is one of my favourite Maiden albums (yes, really.) The fact that Bayley was allergic to everything under the sun didn't help him either. :p

Aided Onslaught

February 28th, 2007, 12:55

hushypushy

February 28th, 2007, 19:18

Aided Onslaught, I listened to your track. It's not bad, but it needs some real guitars and whatnot. Are you planning to make a version with real instruments?

February 28th, 2007, 19:38

If any of you are going on Warped Tour this summer, make sure to check out a band called Gallows (www.myspace.com/burnthegallows (http://www.myspace.com/burnthegallows)). Great guys, ****ing amazing live performances!

ps. more hardcore/punk than metal, but it's all good ;)

Cid Highwind

February 28th, 2007, 20:02

haha my roommate's friend was hanging out here today, he took me to youtube, he's like "hey dude you gotta check out Nightwish" because he loves 'em so much. So he shows me this Nightwish (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fP1VZQsg-BE) video and I said, okay that's not bad, have you heard of Hammerfall? He said he has heard of them but never heard them. So I put on Heeding the Call...yeah he liked that ;)
Wish I had an angel, I think it was the first symphonic metal song I've seen on popular tv (read: music channels which only show hiphop, dance and crappy rock owned by MTV).

Never been a Nightwish fan and never will be. Can't stand Tarja's voice when listening to albums, and when playing live it would take a really hot goth to drag me there, and a gallon of beer. Buncha wrist cutting emo 14 year old wannabe goths thinking they're ****ing metal while the only thing they can stand is symphonic pop rock. Sorry, just have a bad experience with these kind of losers. They give metal a bad name.

Hammerfall is where the real guys are at: Headbangers and beerdrinkers ftw! Plain pure metal with songs about war, warriors and courage. Btw, has anyone ever seen Sabaton live? Great band and I'll quote. "Now we're going to sing about something completely different, next song's about.... *drums* WAR!"

Aided Onslaught: I like your tune a lot, it's fast and it's melodic. Listened to it three times in a row. Somehow it reminded me of a song from Lufia 2, not that that's a bad thing ;)

@ dxn: It's not really my thing, not my kind of vocals and not really my type of music either. I can picture a gig of theirs in my mind though, if you come home without bruises you've probably done something wrong ;)

February 28th, 2007, 20:33

@ dxn: It's not really my thing, not my kind of vocals and not really my type of music either. I can picture a gig of theirs in my mind though, if you come home without bruises you've probably done something wrong ;)Exactly! Some photos I took from one of their gig the other day illustrate the point well I think: blog.myspace.com/boyinept (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=16122785&blogID=235104563&MyToken=9c0ae9e0-ceb0-4d8a-8158-ac7d740f49ba)

:thumb:

industrian

February 28th, 2007, 20:57

To me Ripper has kind of a really bad lower vocals. Just sound raspy. I don't know why, I Just might like rob better and Matt better for each band. I also might just like there music better for the other albums. I will give Tim another shot with the next iced earth album. (the Gettysburg's trilogy is something I can listen to though).

Again, Ripper's main flaws are that he was a replacement for long term and (in Priest's case) legendary frontmen. He was never going to win awards for that, even though Demolition was a great album. As he's got his own band now, maybe he'll shine knowing that he doesn't have mammoth expectations to live up to.

I'll check out x-factor, I just remember him some of the songs and thinking it as a watered down version of maiden.

Like with Virtual XI, The X-Factor is seen as "inferior" to the older albums just because D!ckinson wasn't involved. The X-Factor has picked up quite a gathering lately as Maiden's "dark" album (Harris was going through a lot of personal troubles during writing and recording it) and it has some great tracks on it.

Virtual XI on the other hand deserves to be shot out of a cannon into the sun.

Allergic eh? hmm...

They had to cut a few tours because he was allergic to stuff they used live (or something to that effect.)

Hammerfall is where the real guys are at: Headbangers and beerdrinkers ftw! Plain pure metal with songs about war, warriors and courage.

Manowar über alles.

Ju4rs0dFibs

Other bands play...

Cid Highwind

February 28th, 2007, 20:58

Wow nice pictures, I like the effects you added. And your avatar there reminds me of your old one here ;)

@ Industrian: HELL YEAH \ , , / {>_<} \ , , /

Aided Onslaught

February 28th, 2007, 21:32

Thank you very much for the comments. I will be doing real guitars very soon, and hopefully real everything someoday, I'm just more in a writing mood than trying to perfect my guitar sound so I can record. I should be meeting a guitar player tomorrow, pray to whatever metal god you worship that things work out. Thanks for the lufia comment. I like the music in the game. I even got my girlfriend to use a lufia 2 song for her ringtone, haha.

I perosnally like a good bit of nightwish songs, but her voice really does **** up the songs. I seem to hate tarja voice more and more everyday. I really hope the new singer isn't just a copy. But marco's voice is just amazing, I recommend tarot to any one.

February 28th, 2007, 22:50

Wow nice pictures, I like the effects you added. And your avatar there reminds me of your old one here ;)

@ Industrian: HELL YEAH \ , , / {>_<} \ , , /

thanks :D but i didn't add any effects it's the effect that changing the settings on my camera has :agree:

hushypushy

February 28th, 2007, 23:48

Hammerfall is where the real guys are at: Headbangers and beerdrinkers ftw! Plain pure metal with songs about war, warriors and courage. Btw, has anyone ever seen Sabaton live? Great band and I'll quote. "Now we're going to sing about something completely different, next song's about.... *drums* WAR!"

Haha well, real metal to me is death metal (Decapitated, Dying Fetus, Necrophagist) speed metal (Death, Slayer) or variants thereof (Gardenian, Opeth, Pantera). It all depends on what you like...this guy who loves Nightwish is also really heavy into bands like Evanescence and other American bands I can't stand :rolleyes:

Although lately I've been listening to a lot of Pink Floyd, Tool, and various electronic music (i.e. Pom Pom, AFX), I've put metal aside for a bit :emb:

Ronaldinho

March 1st, 2007, 08:22

\,,/ Oh yeaaah will be going to Slayer's/Mastodon concert in a few weeks time.

Radix865

March 1st, 2007, 09:54

Aided Onslaught

March 1st, 2007, 20:33

I remember them only saying they wanted someone with a more natural voice. Not someone who only sounds okay when they are doing opera. Hopefully the girl knows English a little better. silence is a hard word for Tarja.

Cid Highwind

March 1st, 2007, 21:14

Uh, about that Nightwish vocalist, I remember them specifically stating that they DON'T want another Tarja, but something new... So actually I'm a bit interested. I also started to hate Tarja's singing some time ago... Well I am more into Sonata Arctica and their kind of music, but still...
Well lucky you, you're from Finland, they'll be doing plenty of gigs there ;)

Though having seen them 4 times, I'm not one to complain either. I wonder what there new album is going to be like. Hopefully not too emo.

hushypushy

March 1st, 2007, 22:20

Jeez, you talk that much crap and you've watched them 4 times? The only artist I've seen that many times is Les Claypool, and that's because I love his live shows.

industrian

March 4th, 2007, 02:14

Uh, about that Nightwish vocalist, I remember them specifically stating that they DON'T want another Tarja, but something new... So actually I'm a bit interested. I also started to hate Tarja's singing some time ago... Well I am more into Sonata Arctica and their kind of music, but still...

Whilst you're at it, check out Marco Hietela's (Nightwish's bass player) band Tarot.

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Pyre of Gods. Great song.

Aided Onslaught

March 4th, 2007, 11:45

tarot's first album is great. I like it a little better than there newest 2. He voice is just awesome, it's what really makes the band.

Cid Highwind

March 4th, 2007, 18:04

Jeez, you talk that much crap and you've watched them 4 times? The only artist I've seen that many times is Les Claypool, and that's because I love his live shows.
I was talking about Sonata Arctica, I've never seen Nightwish live. During their tour together we visited the one solo gig of Sonata Arctica in Belgium.

Marco really has a voice that takes getting used to, to me at least. Had a bootleg of Nightwish once and certain parts didn't sound nice imo. The video here sounds great though.

hushypushy

March 4th, 2007, 19:49

Oh, sorry. Your post was a little ambiguous, I got confused.

Aided Onslaught

March 9th, 2007, 17:05

I was sitting around and wondering how fans of metal feel about the people who influenced metal. Where they may not be metal but have something that contributed to the act of it later.

This could be any one like Satriani, Gary Moore, UFO, Scorpions, or even classical stuff like Bach, and mozart. Name some of the stuff that you like along the lines of this.

hushypushy

March 9th, 2007, 18:44

Ok, you can't have Satriani and Scorpions as people who influenced metal...otherwise we'd have Metallica or Slayer because they influenced later metal.

I think that everything can influence metal. Most metalheads don't listen to only metal, make metal, listen to metal, and go to sleep only to wake up the next day listening to more metal. So your question would be more properly phrased as "what non metal bands do you like that other metalheads also like?" and that, my friend, is very ambiguous!

Aided Onslaught

March 9th, 2007, 18:50

People with out the metal name attached to it. Yes scorpions are considered metal, but sorry, they are by far more of a hard rock band (yes, the difference between hard rock and metal is another debate).

I'm just wanted to know, what metal bands that metal bands listen to do you like. I even mean classical music, movie scores, just name some stuff.

hushypushy

March 19th, 2007, 23:42

Man this thread hasn't been updated in a bit. This is for fans of OLD SCHOOL SLAYER.

I remastered a show, the source was weak (horrible sound, high frequencies cut off at around 8k, etc), but I think I did the best I did with what I could. It's a soundboard, so the quality is probably better than you expect.

here's the sample (http://hushy.flaretech.net/music/slayersample.rar), make a comparison. And then download it (http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=13891) if you want :)

Also, does anyone use Last.fm? I just got it (http://www.last.fm/user/hushypushy/) so my stats are really strange...but I want to check out the musical compatibility among other metalheads.

MegaManJuno

March 20th, 2007, 05:02

I'm on Last.fm (http://www.last.fm/user/MegaManJuno/) as well... I listen to a lot of various metal, but also a wide range of other things too, so my charts are kind of all over the place sometimes... ;)

hushypushy

March 20th, 2007, 05:09

Ooh, medium on the taste-o-meter :p

D.D.

March 23rd, 2007, 06:15

black sabbath and megadeth were in toronto today at acc :)

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Death Metal

March 24th, 2007, 19:09

Megadeth... it's been years since I've seen their last concert around here. About 9 years ago, I think.

I had the chance to go to a Blind Guardian's presentation last weekend, but the only thing I was lacking was money. Just that. :p

MegaManJuno

March 24th, 2007, 19:52

Just saw Megadeth last year at Gigantour '06, along with a few other bands (Arch Enemy, Opeth, Lamb of God... to name a couple).

It seemed most people were at the show for Lamb of God, because the crowd swelled right before they got on stage and thinned out again a bit after they got off stage. Personally, I thought they weren't all that great (content-wise... as for stage presence, they were pretty decent). Something I might listen to in passing, but probably will never buy.

Chrono Archangel

March 25th, 2007, 00:39

I've seen Megadeth at the Gigantour '05 with Dream Theater. Both put on a great show. Symphony X also were as good as I expected.

Haven't seen anything lately. Been listening to some Anthrax :)

MegaManJuno

March 25th, 2007, 08:33

Into Eternity was the last show I saw (a week after the Gigantour show I went to). A bunch of poor to mediocre local bands played first, followed by Sanctity (I think that's the right name - they were OK, I guess... didn't really do anything for me though) and Shatter Messiah (fairly decent, IMO... led me to buy thier album based on the show).

Haven't had the time to see anything else around here since then... :(

Into Eternity really put on a great show, especially considering the singer was just getting over the flu, and the 2nd guitarist just up and left the band the week prior (in the middle of Gigantour no less).

Chrono Archangel

March 25th, 2007, 16:27

Sanctity often opens for bands here and not too long ago a listened to their debut album Road to Bloodshed. I found it pretty good for a first album. Vocals will sometime annoy me but all in all its a very solid album.

SonGoku1905

March 25th, 2007, 17:58

Has anybody got to listen to new Dimmu Borgir album ? It's sad to be awesome and the best work the band did since E.D.T (97') by critics...

Also I wonder if any followers of the pagan/folk metal rising in eastern europe here ?

Cid Highwind

March 27th, 2007, 00:09

Not much of a Dimmu Borgir fan myself, though I've listened to some of his work last saturday, not bad though.

I prefer the sound of Graveworm though, Stefan's growls are just too awesome. I might be seeing these guys (and lady) again on the 30th of April :D I think I should get in contact with the guitarist and see if he can bring me some special editions of the albums I don't have. I still have his email address somewhere. It's a festival as well, and they don't have any other gigs the other day, hopefully they'll stick around for a beer.

maeundead

March 29th, 2007, 18:00

The last metal show I went to was Cannibal Corpse, Dying Fetus and Necrophagist. (My two favorite death metal bands) I remember groovin' to Dying Fetus and almost getting killed in Necrophagist because I'm a tiny girl :( Cannibal Corpse...I thought they were really boring and wasn't impressed.

I want to listen to some new metal bands...dark, death, folk, whatever. Any recommendations?

Mako Eyes

March 29th, 2007, 18:32

I want to listen to some new metal bands...dark, death, folk, whatever. Any recommendations?

FINNTROLL (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finntroll)! The only album I have heard/have by these guys is Nattfödd (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nattfodd), but I find it very enjoyable to listen too.

Edge of Sanity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edge_of_Sanity) is good too, I recommend their single-song epics Crimson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_%28Edge_of_Sanity_album%29) and its sequel Crimson II (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimson_II). Crimson had some input from Opeth's Mikael Åkerfeldt, it's really something.

Cid Highwind

March 29th, 2007, 23:00

Quo Vadis (http://www.quovadis.qc.ca/eng/mp3.html) is a band I like, I only have a few songs of theirs, but they're a blast, literally.

If you want something more gloomy, Graveworm is one of my favorites. A Dreaming Beauty (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcwC4dKt-X8) is a nice song of theirs, bagpipes ftw ;)

JKKDARK

March 29th, 2007, 23:16

Don't listen to the other two guys. Vains Of Jenna kick ass :evil:

Cid Highwind

March 29th, 2007, 23:34

What are you doing in a metal thread?

JKKDARK

March 29th, 2007, 23:47

What are you doing in a metal thread?

I like metal and then I replied to maeundead's question

Cid Highwind

March 30th, 2007, 00:07

Hehe, thought it was another of the 80s glamrock bands (not that I don't like those myself, mind you) ;)

Chrono Archangel

March 30th, 2007, 00:14

hey Symphony X is coming to Montreal :D
might go see Edguy too

Cid Highwind

March 30th, 2007, 11:31

Lucky you :D

Haven't gotten into Symphony X myself, never even bothered to pick it up, though I heard they're pretty good.

Checking the Avantasia webpage, there's some news on the project:
NEW AVANTASIA ALBUM "THE SCARECROW"!

As previously reported Tobias is working on a new album of his Rock-operatic AVANTASIA project. The album will have the title "The Scarecrow".

"I am right now in the studio doing some vocal sessions. In about two weeks I am going to fly to England to work with a friend of mine on some vocals. Fans and record companies who are interested always ask me for the names of my guest musicians. I want you all to know that I am blessed to work with the best musicians, but I don't believe in making names more important than the music itself. I am working with some childhood heroes of mine and most important, with great personalities, true friends, and the greatest musicians you can think of. Producer Sascha and I just checked some new recordings and I have the feeling, that this is the strongest stuff we have ever worked on. It's hard to describe the material in a few words, it sounds very powerful, bombastic, very organic and alive. People who loved especially Avantasia part I will love this one, although this time there is a lot more variation in style on there as well.

Of course it's a Metal album, but we even didn't stop at including some Celtic world music elements. But all that matters to me is that the music has to touch the soul and I swear to god: This material goes straight to your soul, because that's where it comes from. Sounds cheesy, but it's true. I am giving you my everything with this record and you will hear that in late summer! - All the best, Tobi"

To see some pictures from the recording sessions, check the photo section (http://www.tobiassammet.com/photos.php).Sounds very promising if you ask me, though I really wonder who will be the guest musicians. So far the only one I know has been confirmed is Eric Singer, Kiss' drummer.

Aided Onslaught

March 30th, 2007, 17:39

hushypushy

March 30th, 2007, 19:45

Tool or Slayer fans...check out this thread. (http://forums.ngemu.com/recycle-bin/87458-slayer-tool-fans-check.html) Some things made by me :)

Cid Highwind

March 30th, 2007, 23:18

sweet, I've always liked Avantasia, but just recently started to really listen to them...just in time I might add. Just hope it's not like the new edguy cd...Don't know what happened there. Hellfire is still there over all strongest (in the sense of editing, and just song value.

It just seems after a band makes there best cd, they feel for their next they have to put so many riffs into a song that it just gets cluttered and you don't care about the song anymore. Sonata seems to do that with there cd with the song "don't say a word" on it. the video of the song was awesome, cd version...to long and just werid...
I couldn't agree more, with the exception of their live album, but that's more like a best of. Hellfire Club was an awesome album, and it still is. It's one of my fav albums because it has it all, great high speed powermetal, nice midtempo songs, and a really strong ballad. Rocket Ride needs to grow on you, after Rocket Ride it feels too slow and uninteresting. Ever since the Rocket Ride tour where we saw them I started to appreciate it. Føcking with Fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8skGyL-vL8) is such a brilliant song :D

But yeah, overall the songs just have way less content, and it's more of a melodic rock album than pure powermetal. It does justice to their name Edgay :p

About Reckoning Night, the Sonata album you meant, I still think Don't Say a Word is one of their best songs. To me the radio edit is missing out on some of the parts that make the song complete. Overall, I think Winterheart's Guild offers more depth than Reckoning Night, though it sounds a bit more depressing. I wonder what their new album is going to sound like. They're taking preorders now. I've kinda grown over my Sonata fanboyism, though I still think they're a great band.

And thanks for the link hushy, I might have overlooked it otherwise. A good moment for me to check out on Tool :)

hushypushy

March 31st, 2007, 04:19

Well Cid, if you want to get into Tool, I don't really recommend those (MAYBE the 8/14 show..). If you want a kickass, professional sounding Tool show with a good setlist from their prime, check out this show. (http://zombtracker.the-zomb.com/details.php?id=1758)

Cid Highwind

March 31st, 2007, 13:11

I suppose you downloading the torrent and adding it into an attachment here would not really work? :heh:

hushypushy

March 31st, 2007, 21:22

No, because then you'd be using my account to download...

Why don't you just sign up? It's free, they automatically give you a gig of upload credit, and the ratio requirements are extremely low.

March 31st, 2007, 22:40

I've seen Megadeth at the Gigantour '05 with Dream Theater.
Did you record it? :wub:

Chrono Archangel

March 31st, 2007, 23:00

nah
but it was amazing. :)

Cid Highwind

April 1st, 2007, 02:01

No, because then you'd be using my account to download...

Why don't you just sign up? It's free, they automatically give you a gig of upload credit, and the ratio requirements are extremely low.

Heh, you've been doing some downloading there I see ;)

Will get the gig you linked to. Hopefully I can maintain a nice share ratio here, the biggest problem is that the torrents are usually down before I can get a proper ratio on my 4mb/256kb connection. The balance here is completely lost.

Browsing through their stuff, it looks really interesting. Thanks for the site hushy :thumb:

hushypushy

April 1st, 2007, 23:05

maeundead

April 2nd, 2007, 18:30

This took a while to reply but Mako Eyes, Cid Highwind, and JKKDARK. I'll actually listen to those bands when I finally get a soundcard or when I go on someone else's computer!

Cid Highwind

April 2nd, 2007, 18:55

I used to upload a crapload on 128kbps, and that was only 1500 down. At least you have the down bandwidth to finish it fast and seed. And torrents live for a long time there.

Enjoy the music...I really love bootlegs, they make my musical world go around lately.
True, though I usually cap my torrents at 15kb/s, otherwise my parents or brother will notice their connection lagging. And if I let it go unlimited sometimes we aren't reachable by phone, or at least it will be as if they're calling to Aussie land.

I've always been a huge fan of live music, mainly because it sounds more pure and has more emotion poured into it. Back when on 56k I was a big fan of Bon Jovi, and I still am, older work only though. I used to be downloading every single live song I could find. I was looking at the site you gave me, but unfortunately there's none of their work there.

This took a while to reply but Mako Eyes, Cid Highwind, and JKKDARK. I'll actually listen to those bands when I finally get a soundcard or when I go on someone else's computer!
Cool, I hope you'll enjoy them, let us know what you think.

hushypushy

April 3rd, 2007, 02:06

You can go in the Request forums and ask for something. A lot of torrents have simply fallen out of favor.

And I know what you mean with the lagging internet...luckily my roommate works all day so I can max out my bandwidth almost all day and then all night, so I'm good :D

JKKDARK

April 9th, 2007, 00:48

I know it's not what the people here really like, but at least it's related.

Ex-Kiss guitarist Mark St. John dies (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18013719/)

Cid Highwind

April 9th, 2007, 03:37

Damn... too early :(

industrian

April 15th, 2007, 03:16

CV6ETVQgob0

It may not be directly metal, but it has a solo godamn it, that counts for something.

Plus: I should receive Year Zero any day now. Then... the apocalypse begins...

hushypushy

April 15th, 2007, 04:02

Year Zero is very good.

IMO

industrian

April 15th, 2007, 04:09

Year Zero is very good.

IMO

The promo and the ARG scared the crap outta me. Especially since the former was in daylight.

*expects to see The Presence whilst cycling.*

BTW: I also ordered the 10th Anniversary Edition of the Downwards Spiral, and I gave away my CD version of it to a certain other member of the forums here. :)

hushypushy

April 15th, 2007, 04:48

Sweet, I have TDS in the 2 disc and the original version. Just need to get the dual disc and I'm set :D

btw industrian, go to the bin y0

April 15th, 2007, 05:02

see industrian? i'm not the only one asking for you to make us a visit there. :p

btw, do you guys know Kiko Loureiro (http://www.kikoloureiro.com.br/)? One of the best guitarrists of this world. I got the "No Gravity" album. ****ing awesome ****. Instrumental at it's best. You won't regret it.

Cid Highwind

April 15th, 2007, 21:59

Kiko, have you mentioned his name once Mire? Cause it sounds familiar.

I got some new stuff as well this weekend. And Industrian, I was wondering if this Manowar dvd is the real thing, I think it is, but it might as well be a well done bootleg.

Also, I got some new headphones cause my old ones died after having been to good use for only a mere 10 months :( Instead of Philips I decided to get some Sennheisers this time. First I got the PMX-40 for €25,-

Pro: Good bass
Con: Everything else

Damn they sucked badly, I didn't expect it from a brand which has such a good name. Those Philips' I've been using for so many years were ten times better. Everything sounded incredibly muffled, even the low sounds like bassdrums didn't sound right, despite sounding really deep and low. Especially guitars, both distorted and the regular sound used in solos, sounded really bad. Being a metal fan this is completely unacceptable. Also, the headphones gave me a headache because of the way they were built. Avoid these at all cost, unless you're a dance freak who only cares about bass.

I went back to the store and got my money back, with which I bought the PMX-60, hoping those would be better. The design is more lightweight and these actually fit perfectly! I can wear them even when having my shades on, and yes, I felt eyes were focused on me as I wore a band shirt as well that day. :D

Pro: Sound quality, light weight, confortable behind your ears
Con: Price? (€40,-)

The sound was the complete opposite of the other set. This time I was simply amazed with the sound quality, never have I heard cymbals and snares sound this clear. That's on a cheapass flash MP3 player with 192kbit MP3. Immediately it was clear that these headphones covered a much wider range of the audio-spectrum. In the lower regions it didn't sound as heavy as with the other set, but it did sound more balanced. I know know that I shouldn't listen any low quality MP3 with these headphones, being rather good at spotting compression artifacts, these headphones make it even easier to hear them.

So as you can understand, I'm freaking happy with these new Sennheisers, now let's hope they'll last me longer than a year.

ps. Mire: 1337 posts ;)

Aided Onslaught

April 15th, 2007, 22:21

Nice stuff there Cid, and you are a great reviewer. Kind of sad that conpanys don't make head phones the way they should be, for any type of music.

Cid Highwind

April 15th, 2007, 22:45

Thanks, I always do my best to cover every aspect of the item I'm talking about. When saying something rocks, the least you can do is explain why ^^

And I agree with you, also to me it feels like they're gimping these <€35 headphones on purpose so that people have to buy the more expensive ones, if they haven't already screwed up their ears so much they won't notice the difference.

Btw, Industrian just confirmed it's a bootleg, I'm gonna ask the seller for a refund, I want the real deal, even if it costs more.

hushypushy

April 16th, 2007, 00:30

I love my Sennheiser HD555's...I hardly ever take them out of the house though.

Cid Highwind

April 16th, 2007, 20:36

Heh, well I googled them, and they aren't the kind I would like to take outside either, mainly because they're too big and too expensive. Their sound must be awesome though.

Oh and Powermetal fans around the world rejoice! Read this little post by Kai Hansen (Gamma Ray)

"The next tour: Yes, there are negotiations about a tour with HELLOWEEN, but we can't give out too much now. It would start in November, take us through all countries, including Europe, Japan, USA, Canada and South America. We would play before HELLOWEEN with approximately 75 minutes (even in places where we had more people on the last tour than they had; switching is not practical), and there will be one or two support bands, in some places maybe even more, as a kind of festival thing. We all like the idea of united powers here, and, of course, the opportunity for some worldwide jams, but still this might as well not happen, as I said... we're negotiating.

"About [the project featuring former HELLOWEEN singer Michael] Kiske, Hansen [and ex-HELLOWEEN/current MASTERPLAN guitarist Roland] Grapow: Another 'yes' with a 'but.' We have met and want to do something together, so Roland and me will have to find time to write some good songs that are not too agressive for Michi (....you all know about his metal phobia). Musically it should be a bit out of the ordinary, which is good; I wouldn't want to write songs for this which I'd rather have for GAMMA RAY. The 'when' is still open and of course we can only get into detail when we have the first tracks and are sure it's gonna be a great thing, or some project that ends up in eternal discussions about musical direction.

Yup you read it correctly, Helloween and Gamma Ray might be touring together, and some old Helloween members might be tagging along. This is definitely a must-see for me. I've never seen Gamma Ray live, though they were the first metal band I got in to. I've met their drummer at the Freedom Call gig, cause he plays in both bands. This little piece of news is getting me excited already!

industrian

April 17th, 2007, 10:50

I love my Sennheiser HD555's.

Funnily enough, I'm considering buying them (http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/STTS7/3-/587421/Sennheiser_HD_555_Open_Headphones/Product.html) at this very minute (God bless student loans.) It's either them or Sony's MDR-NC6 (http://www.play.com/Electronics/Electronics/-/273/353/-/812445/Sony_MDR_NC6_Noise_Cancelling_Headphones/Product.html?searchtype=genre).

And yeah, I sign my name with a capital G. :p Brilliant album.

hushypushy

April 17th, 2007, 18:31

Well, the Sennheiser and that Sony are in completely different categories, so I suppose it's down to what you want out of it. Notably, the Sennheiser is circumaural (goes around your entire ear) and has zero noise canceling, in fact it's kind of the opposite because of it's open speaker design.

I paid $100 on Amazon for the HD555. Maybe try that? (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-HD-555/dp/B0002K0Q34/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/203-3178245-3631964?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1176831082&sr=8-1) That one doesn't ship through Amazon...it is considerably cheaper though.

industrian

April 17th, 2007, 18:44

I paid $100 on Amazon for the HD555. Maybe try that? (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sennheiser-HD-555/dp/B0002K0Q34/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/203-3178245-3631964?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1176831082&sr=8-1) That one doesn't ship through Amazon...it is considerably cheaper though.

I bought them. :) That's the most money I've ever dropped on a set of headphones.

hushypushy

April 17th, 2007, 21:41

Nice! They are well worth it, extremely comfortable with great sound. I used to use them A LOT but the upstairs neighbor has seemed to cool off a bit, so I've been on speakers more often lately.

Cid Highwind

April 17th, 2007, 22:02

Your neighbor passed away? :p

industrian

April 18th, 2007, 04:49

Nice! They are well worth it, extremely comfortable with great sound. I used to use them A LOT but the upstairs neighbor has seemed to cool off a bit, so I've been on speakers more often lately.

My speakers died. :cry:

I use my Yamaha 2.1 speakers in the meantime, and they're fairly good. But you hear crackles at high volumes, and I can't stand it.

Still, can't wait until I listen to Manowar with those headphones. :D

hushypushy

April 18th, 2007, 04:54

Your neighbor passed away? :p

Well, he did go away on spring break (that was all last week) just like he did for the semester break (all of January!) so that was amazingly kickass. Lately though, I haven't heard as much banging on the floor/ceiling from upstairs...I guess you could say I'm slowly pushing the boundaries, and he seems to have loosened up. In the summer I'm just gonna let it hang out, who cares.

Still, can't wait until I listen to Manowar with those headphones. :D

Oh yeah, you're gonna love 'em. The comfort level especially is what amazed me. I was using Plantronics Audio 90's (the old style ones when the 90 was top of the line), and they just hurt my head after a while. Not Sennheiser!

By the way, have you watched BYIT yet? I saw that you have the BR disc, but I also know you don't have that PS3 :p

industrian

April 18th, 2007, 04:57

Oh yeah, you're gonna love 'em. The comfort level especially is what amazed me. I was using Plantronics Audio 90's (the old style ones when the 90 was top of the line), and they just hurt my head after a while. Not Sennheiser!

It'll actually be the first time I've used "proper" headphones and not in-ear ones for as long as I can remember.

By the way, have you watched BYIT yet? I saw that you have the BR disc, but I also know you don't have that PS3 :p

Nope. :( But according to this (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/nineinchnailslivebesideyouintime.html), it's well worth the wait.

Aided Onslaught

April 27th, 2007, 22:28

Good news. Matt Barlow from Iced Earth has recently joined a band called Pyramaze. I've been listening to their stuff on myspace and they are very very good. Finally (not that I don't like Iced earth) a band that has the music to support such an awesome voice.

www.myspace.com/pyramaze (http://www.myspace.com/pyramaze)

hushypushy

April 27th, 2007, 23:33

Nope. :( But according to this (http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/nineinchnailslivebesideyouintime.html), it's well worth the wait.

Well, I know you got your PS3 ;) Have you watched it yet? IMO he really improved on the With Teeth tunes, they sound a whole lot better live.

edit: I just read the review...I'm glad that the reviewer understood Reznor's audio setup. With this and AATCHB, Trent said that he was attempting to make it seem like you're there, which is to say that all the music is up front and the crowd noise in the back. I think a lot of people, accustomed to "normal" 5.1 mixes or even Reznor's own 5.1 mixes of studio material, are put off by his DVDs' sound, but I think it's pretty awesome.

industrian

April 28th, 2007, 02:14

Well, I know you got your PS3 ;) Have you watched it yet? IMO he really improved on the With Teeth tunes, they sound a whole lot better live.

It looks fantastic - even at 480i. The first thing I noticed obviously was the fact that Trent's been working out. :p

I've still to watch it in any great detail, but I'll be sure to do that when all my studying is over.

And Play.com have still to post my 10th Anniversary SACD of The Downward Spiral. :(

hushypushy

April 28th, 2007, 02:55

It looks fantastic - even at 480i. The first thing I noticed obviously was the fact that Trent's been working out. :p

He's still on the needle...but now it's steroids instead of black tar heroin ;)

And Play.com have still to post my 10th Anniversary SACD of The Downward Spiral. :(

Eh, the situation with that sucks. If you want the 5.1, get the DVDA (unless you are one of the surprising few with a SACD player...). But otherwise, the SACD is a good deal. I have the original, then I got the SACD (2CD) and one day I'll get that dual disc...I still haven't heard the 5.1 mix on my surround sound (I listened to the borrowed disc on my computer ages ago).

industrian

April 28th, 2007, 03:09

If you want the 5.1, get the DVDA (unless you are one of the surprising few with a SACD player...). But otherwise, the SACD is a good deal. I have the original, then I got the SACD (2CD) and one day I'll get that dual disc...I still haven't heard the 5.1 mix on my surround sound (I listened to the borrowed disc on my computer ages ago).

The PS3 plays SACDs. ;)

I've still to get the DVD of And All That Could Have Been as well. Closure is ... being "acquired" as we speak.

hushypushy

April 28th, 2007, 20:46

IT DOES? I have never read that anywhere, and now I'm googling and I've found several articles. Well, there's another reason to get a PS3...jeez, Sony really IS incorporating EVERYTHING into their systems. I bet the PS4 is gonna come with a TV and some friends to play wit, it's the only thing you need for entertainment :p

AATCHB is really impressive too, it's much different than BYIT. And that's definitely a good thing. I'm glad they don't just chug out the same boring DVDs and CDs over and over. I have almost all the "halos" and I buy them because they're different, they're fun to listen to :)

PS. About Closure...Trent approves, don't feel bad :p

edit: aww man, this sucks (http://www.sa-cd.net/showthread/17673//y?page=first):

The PlayStation 3 manual says that "Audio from Super Audio CDs cannot be output from the system's digital out (optical) connector. Multi-channel content from Super Audio CDs can only be output from the HDMI OUT connector." So it appears that while Mono and Stereo SACD audio may be available from the Multi AV connector, 5.1 Surround Sound SACD audio along with Mono and Stereo SACD and Mono and Stereo CD audio is only available via HDMI.

I knew it was too good to be true. Sony and their control over music...if they allowed optical out it'd be just a little too easy to plug that into someone's soundcard, wouldn't it... Although, I did read that the recommended output for SACD players is using 6 analog cords, because the amount of bandwidth can, at times, exceed that of a digital optical cable.

industrian

April 28th, 2007, 22:21

IT DOES? I have never read that anywhere, and now I'm googling and I've found several articles. Well, there's another reason to get a PS3...jeez, Sony really IS incorporating EVERYTHING into their systems. I bet the PS4 is gonna come with a TV and some friends to play wit, it's the only thing you need for entertainment :p

The PS3 pretty much does everything except washing your dishes. :p

AATCHB is really impressive too, it's much different than BYIT. And that's definitely a good thing. I'm glad they don't just chug out the same boring DVDs and CDs over and over. I have almost all the "halos" and I buy them because they're different, they're fun to listen to :)

Does the DVD of AATCHB come with anything "Still"-related? I've seen videos for Still versions of songs on Youtube, and I'm wondering where they came from.

As for my Halo collection, I've got all the studio albums, Fixed, Further Down The Spiral, The Perfect Drug and Things Falling Apart. I haven't got any of the singles, but that will probably change.

I knew it was too good to be true. Sony and their control over music...if they allowed optical out it'd be just a little too easy to plug that into someone's soundcard, wouldn't it... Although, I did read that the recommended output for SACD players is using 6 analog cords, because the amount of bandwidth can, at times, exceed that of a digital optical cable.

That kind of sucks (seeing how I'm using a TOSLINK right now). But my plan is to switch to purely HDMI in the future. I'll miss out in the short term, but that's the story of my life right now.

hushypushy

April 29th, 2007, 04:54

Does the DVD of AATCHB come with anything "Still"-related? I've seen videos for Still versions of songs on Youtube, and I'm wondering where they came from.

Nope, sorry. I know you really love Still, though :p

industrian

April 29th, 2007, 13:02

Nope, sorry. I know you really love Still, though :p

It was an unexpected surprise when I first got it. :p I always try to get the deluxe version of things (even back in the day when I didn't buy that much) and Still just blew me away. Great "new" songs and brilliantly done remixes.

UEW8riKU_tE

The studio version of that was the first NiN song I ever heard (WinMX in late 2001/early 2002 FTW). Hooked me instantly.

hushypushy

April 29th, 2007, 19:09

I really liked "Things Falling Apart", the remix disc for The Fragile.

I'm already getting excited for the Year Zero remix album :p

industrian

April 29th, 2007, 21:14

I really liked "Things Falling Apart", the remix disc for The Fragile.

I prefer Further Down The Spiral (I've got the UK version). Three versions of Starf**kers, Inc. was a bit too much imo. :p

I'm already getting excited for the Year Zero remix album :p

As long as it doesn't turn out like Fixed, then I'll be happy. ;)

BTW: Seeing how me and you are the only dudes carrying this thread around, I just noticed that it's now around 13 months old. :p I should have bought it a present or something.

hushypushy

April 30th, 2007, 00:43

I prefer Further Down The Spiral (I've got the UK version). Three versions of Starf**kers, Inc. was a bit too much imo. :p

Yeah...but the other versions made up for it. I've had sex to that album, ya know :rolleyes:

BTW: Seeing how me and you are the only dudes carrying this thread around, I just noticed that it's now around 13 months old. :p I should have bought it a present or something.

ehh, who gives a crap. Metal doesn't need a birthday! Or something. Hey, when are you gonna bring your ass to the bin? Seriously.

industrian

April 30th, 2007, 01:21

Yeah...but the other versions made up for it. I've had sex to that album, ya know :rolleyes:

When I lost my virginity, Herzeleid was playing. ;)

I've never did the wild thing whilst NiN was playing though, maybe it's something to try in the future. :p

Hey, when are you gonna bring your ass to the bin? Seriously.

Irrelevant discussion can wait until my honours project is over.

Aided Onslaught

April 30th, 2007, 03:14

I prefer Further Down The Spiral (I've got the UK version). Three versions of Starf**kers, Inc. was a bit too much imo. :p

As long as it doesn't turn out like Fixed, then I'll be happy. ;)

BTW: Seeing how me and you are the only dudes carrying this thread around, I just noticed that it's now around 13 months old. :p I should have bought it a present or something.

Well, I TRIED to talk about matt barlow joining metal again, but no one cared...:mad:

industrian

April 30th, 2007, 03:28

Well, I TRIED to talk about matt barlow joining metal again, but no one cared...:mad:

I'll listen to some of their tracks, but the only Iced Earth I like is The Glorious Burden.

I've not given their other stuff much time, so if you can recommend any of their albums with Barlow, it'd be nice.

Aided Onslaught

April 30th, 2007, 04:13

Something wicked is awesome. I haven't listen to all of dark saga, but question for heaven is one awesome song (esp if you are a spawn fan). I would recommend dracula from horror show, just an awesome freaking song.

Anyhow the band I was talking about is much more complacated guitar leads than iced earth, really nothing like them. Just taking an awesome voice to much better music will make his voice shine even more. Can't wait to hear it.

On other news, I was at walmart and found a old 82 dvd for judas priest. I saw the concert before on tv, but since the GF is getting sick of me always playing the kamelot dvd, I got it.

hushypushy

April 30th, 2007, 04:27

I've never did the wild thing whilst NiN was playing though, maybe it's something to try in the future. :p

It's great. My girlfriend really loves The Fragile :D

industrian

April 30th, 2007, 23:07

Something wicked is awesome. I haven't listen to all of dark saga, but question for heaven is one awesome song (esp if you are a spawn fan). I would recommend dracula from horror show, just an awesome freaking song.

Burning Times is one of the best album openers you can get.

I don't know why I've never given Iced Earth enough time to grow on me. The fact that I own all their albums (even Tribute to the Gods) makes that fact even more criminal.

Again, I've got to mention The Glorious Burden again as I've been listening to it again. Attila and Hollow Man are my favourites on that CD. The amount of negative attitude that CD gets just because of The Ripper is just insane.

Anyhow the band I was talking about is much more complacated guitar leads than iced earth, really nothing like them. Just taking an awesome voice to much better music will make his voice shine even more. Can't wait to hear it.

One thing I've got to say, is that I've never been more lazy in looking for new metal bands in all my life. Back in 2004/5 I'd go browsing for new bands and download sample mp3s of songs constantly (I discovered bands like Viperine, Jag Panzer, Suidakra, Tuatha de Danann, DragonForce, Samael and Rhapsody that way.)

On other news, I was at walmart and found a old 82 dvd for judas priest. I saw the concert before on tv, but since the GF is getting sick of me always playing the kamelot dvd, I got it.

Is that the Electric Eye one?

It's great. My girlfriend really loves The Fragile :D

She likes it when you get Underneath It All and go Even Deeper Into The Void before having a Big Come Down?

I'll stop with the crappy puns now. :p

April 30th, 2007, 23:30

I don't know why I've never given Iced Earth enough time to grow on me. The fact that I own all their albums (even Tribute to the Gods) makes that fact even more criminal.

Again, I've got to mention The Glorious Burden again as I've been listening to it again. Attila and Hollow Man are my favourites on that CD. The amount of negative attitude that CD gets just because of The Ripper is just insane.
Hollow Man and the 4th track, I forgot the name. I don't see joy on The Dark Saga. For me all the songs are the same, and boring. :\

Again, DID YOU LISTEN TO DEMONS AND WIZARDS?

industrian

April 30th, 2007, 23:50

Hollow Man and the 4th track, I forgot the name.

The Reckoning (Don't Tread on Me).

I don't see joy on The Dark Saga. For me all the songs are the same, and boring. :\

I Died for You is quite good.

Again, DID YOU LISTEN TO DEMONS AND WIZARDS?

Nope. >_> The again, I've never listened to Blind Guardian in any great detail.

May 1st, 2007, 03:55

The Reckoning (Don't Tread on Me).
oh yeah, dont tread on me. that reminds me black album btw.

I Died for You is quite good.
2nd track? if so I guess its the only one I really enjoy.

Nope. >_> The again, I've never listened to Blind Guardian in any great detail.
then dont listen just because it's BG's vocal singing. DW's trick is the guitar. Jon Schaffer plays in DW just like he does in IE, now blend his heavy sound style with BG's criativity and melody, that's Demons and Wizards.

And oh, I've mentioned Kiko Loureiro earlier, Cid even recognized his name. He is Angra's guitarrist. Here's a video of him playing one of his solo musics, Dillema. (I've posted this video in the spam section but no one commented on it, so I decided to try again. deserves special attention, hence kiko has an amazing hability, plus Dillema's melody is very cool too imo).

YouTube - kiko Loureiro Dilemma (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2Ju5OX80Fc)

Cid Highwind

May 3rd, 2007, 15:22

K guys, I'm in the middle of processing my Graveworm videos which I made monday. The concert was ****ing awesome, like all of them were! I managed to have a chat with Stefan as soon as we arrived at the venue, so I gave him a cd with the first Graveworm concert I've ever been (oktober 2004) of which we made audio recordings. Also I gave him a cd with the videos and pictures of Blikfest, a couple of months ago.

I asked them if it would be cool to make some videos again, seeing how Fear of the Dark got over 16.000 views by now. It wasn't a problem at all, not even of the songs of the new album they'd be playing. So that's what I did, I recorded two songs of their soon to be released album, and I have to say: THEY ROCK! Suicide Code is somewhat like a mix between the old stuff and (N)Utopia. It's brutal, but at the same time the piano gives it some emotional swing to it. The other song I don't know the title of, but it was even more aggressive, certainly something of the likes of Legions Unleashed :D

So Mire, make sure you get your hands on the new album ;)

After the gig we waited a bit to get a picture with the entire band. That's when we got to chat with Sabine and Harry again. Sabine is a real lovely girl, very spontaneous, which is kinda hard to imagine for a girl playing in a band like Graveworm. I got surprised in the same way when I managed to sneak backstage while carrying one of their guitars for Harry (I just wanted to speed things up for the foto :p) and that's where I got to talk to the drummer for the first time. For such a raving madman on stage, he sure is very quiet and even a bit shy in some way in real life.

Tracklist (order might be messed up a bit):
1. a new intro
2. I - the Machine
3. Legions Unleashed
4. Nutopia
5. Unhallowed by the Infernal One
6. Dreaming into Reality
7. Hateful Design
8. Suicide Code
9. Never Enough

Zugabe:
10. New song #2
11. ****ING ABHORRENCE!! :D

No covers were played this time, but we still enjoyed the show a lot. Not the largest pit I've seen either, but I did enjoy my time in there. Broke my shades though :p

Anyway, I was too busy headbangin' so I completely forgot to make any pictures, I only have two videos and a picture of me and Sabine, and the guys and Harry.

ps. I would love to know about any program that can edit WAV files and isn't too picky about the source. I want to edit some of the audio and mix it back into the video, it's just adjusting some of the equalizer bands since the vocals aren't clear enough. The file I have is a 512kbps ,33.1kHz mono wav file btw.

The Magic Hobo

May 3rd, 2007, 15:25

@ Cid, audacity is quite good, I use it for simple sound editing, it's quite good for editing entire songs as well.

Cid Highwind

May 3rd, 2007, 15:41

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll keep it in mind. It turned out Magix Audio Editor 2.0 differs from a 5 year older version in a way that there's both "Open Audio File" and "open audio project" now, whereas it used to be one "open file" thing.

hushypushy

May 3rd, 2007, 18:29

Hey Cid, I don't know if your budget is down with this, but you should get (google these): Core Sound Binaurals (mics), a battery box (for high SPL recording levels) and some sort of recording device (probably DAT, but that's way expensive, you might go for MD or even analog cassette).

What you can do with these CSB's is stick them on your hat brim or glasses or your collar, and they are binaural, not stereophonic. What that means is that when you listen to the recording on headphones, you get a 3D sound field, just like it was when you were there. But what it REALLY means is much much better audio quality! I've watched your videos, but I'm put off by the sound quality. I've heard some damn good recordings off CSB's, and I would definitely download and listen to the shows you go to if you taped them with some gear like that.

And then, as a bonus, you could sync that file up to your video, and that would be pretty sweet :cool:

As for audio programs, try Cool Edit Pro (that's the old version of Adobe Audition), you can resample, EQ, etc. But uh 512kbps is way low bitrate for WAV. WAV's are containers for LPCM audio (Linear Pulse Code Modulation)...the linear part means that every single bit gets the same amount of into, unlike MP3 or other codecs that can adjust. CD quality audio (16bit, 44.1khz) is 1411kbps, even if you have 33.1khz (you sure it's not 44.1 or 32?) it shouldn't be down to ~500kbps...unless you have like an 8bit file or something? :/

Cid Highwind

May 3rd, 2007, 21:34

Well the 512kbps wav is what my camera records it in (after having saved it as WAV with VirtualDub), and it's how you hear it in my videos. Personally I think my sound is better than 90% of the live videos out there mainly because it's able to deal with the level of volume out there :)

I googled them and according to their website they should cost over a 200 USD oO I'm sure they create some great recordings, but to me it's really not worth the money, seeing how I'm not really aiming to be professional with the videos. They just make a nice souvenir of every gig I attend.

hushypushy

May 4th, 2007, 02:48

Well at the mo I'm trying to get the money for those...I figure that maybe you could spend nearly $1000 in the short run, but then again, you'll be using this stuff AND listening to these recordings for years and years. I think if you go to a lot of shows, it will really pay off after some time when you can look back and say "wow, that was a really kickass recording."

Well, that's just my view anyway...hopefully within the next couple of years you'll start seeing shows taped by me :)

Cid Highwind

May 4th, 2007, 14:56

I'll be looking forward to them!

Btw, check them out on ebay, I think I saw some for $60,- new even. Though I don't know if those are the latest ones.

May 4th, 2007, 17:48

hopefully within the next couple of years you'll start seeing shows taped by me
I'll sabotage your videos hihihi. BEWARE.

Cid Highwind

May 5th, 2007, 17:49

Sabotage this!

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It's the song Suicide Code coming from their new album Mire ;)

May 7th, 2007, 03:59

It's the song Suicide Code coming from their new album Mire
shame on me dude, I've got only 4 songs, those you've sent to me. :/ But this one looks very interesting, I need to try out the new album! :D

heeeey, i came here to discuss with you guys about a thing...

What happened to Linkin park?

About 4, 5 years ago, I was a big Linkin Park fan. Used to like all songs, had all cds, including bootlegs. Then I went listening to more mature, elaborated sounds, that's when I found the metal world, leaving the pop/soft music aside. Plus after their album with jay-z, i've really lost respect for them (so its not only you TCOS ;)). But some nostagia has gripped on me so I had to relisten some of their musics.

Ok, longing ceased, I've found their new album, Minutes to Midnight. I thought of giving it a try... man, I am SURPRISED. It's not the linkin park I've listened before, their sound is different. And for good I suppose.

There's no more Shinoda crap - the cd is like 85% rock, 15% hip hop. That pleases me since I've never liked the hip hop sound (though it really helped my english). They have also added more instrumental parts in their musics, sounding like a rock band. Chester's voice is more balanced, no more spicy-irritating-deafin screams. He even sings like quietly and mildly in some songs. Plus I've noticed a lot of back-vocal actions during some songs. Guitar distortions are sounding more melodic and less agressive, giving the music a better feeling.

Spotlights on Wake (first song, instrumental. Note the guitars, they're different), No More Sorrow (HEAVY, a very nice song) and Little things you give away (ballad). I am still trying it, but so far those are the ones I got in love instantly.

It's disturbing for me because it doesn't sound like Linkin Park lol. If you had your preteen time with Linkin Park, and you're now almost as an ancient dude reaching the 18 (and musical mature), facing Minutes to Midnight, feel free to make your input.

industrian

May 7th, 2007, 05:19

I gave good old Linkin Park's new stuff a try as well.

First of all: Is it just me whom finds swearing in songs kind of "weird?" I mean, in live shows it's justified due to the adrenaline or context (Manowar spring to mind instantly) but on studio efforts it sounds kinda weird, either like they're just trying to offend people or are doing it because it's fashionable.

Anyways. It sounds different and it looks different (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/63/Minutes-to-midnight.jpg) as well. From what I've heard it's LP's best album. But that's kinda like saying that my cat's **** is better when it's dry. Don't even get me started on the rapping-orientated songs on this album as that kind of stuff just sounds stupid to me now.

As Le Tank stated, it's different. The song "Shadow of the Day" is fairly derivative of U2, but is quite good.

I started off in 2001 with this sort of stuff (well, 2000 was when I started with metal in general - but it took off around the time Hybrid Theory came out.) Those albums, such as Significant Other, Chocolate Starfish and Hybrid Theory are quite nostalgic, even if it certain elements (rapping and swearing spring to mind) are cringe worthy.

Mako Eyes

May 7th, 2007, 06:34

First of all: Is it just me whom finds swearing in songs kind of "weird?" I mean, in live shows it's justified due to the adrenaline or context (Manowar spring to mind instantly) but on studio efforts it sounds kinda weird, either like they're just trying to offend people or are doing it because it's fashionable.

No, I find it weird too. There are times when it's necessary to convey frustration or whatever, but it's pretty hard to pull off in songs without it sounding childish?

Ever heard HammerFall's "Knights of the 21st Century," from their Chapter V album? Near the beginning you can hear "HELL F***ING YEA, THE PROPHECY!" and I swear it was the silliest thing I've ever heard.

hushypushy

May 7th, 2007, 08:25

Cid Highwind

May 7th, 2007, 10:21

Swearing in songs means you're dealing with an uncreative songwriter who isn't able to convey his emotions into proper written language. It just sounds like it's way too much aimed at teenage emo suckers who need some background music while they grab something sharp to get a piece of themselves.

@ Mako Eyes: I completely agree about that Hammerfall song, then again, Chapter V wasn't their best album anyway. Joacim simply doesn't have a voice powerful enough to make such things sound convincing either. It's just as Misplaced as Sonata Arctica swearing because imo Tony just has so much more style than that. And then there's the entire keytar smashing thing on the dvd. Did these guys kinda lost it ever since they're trying to get mass appeal after the Nightwish tour?

@ Industrian: Seems like we walked the same path into metal, I have both those Limp Bizkit albums here as well. Same goes for my brother, he got into Linkin Park before I introduced him into true metal.

One of the few guys I enjoy swearing is Stefan Fiore from Graveworm when live on stage, it's pure adrenaline I tell you. In fact, before he announced the final song of the night, the crowd (a friend and myself :p) were yelling "****ING Abhorrence!" even though we knew they'd play that song anyway.

Edit:
Touch of Hate is online as well right now. Too bad the drums kinda pushed away the other sounds though.

DP3owd_33EE

Edit #2: A picture of a souvenir I got from their new guitarist, Stirz.

Aided Onslaught

May 7th, 2007, 14:51

About Linkin Park: I'd have to say this is by far my MOST HATED band. I mean lets take rap, boy bands and crappy rock and mix it together. YAY. Every lost soul in high school found their favorite band. Let alone the fact they re-released their first album, what 3 times now?

Cid: I agree with you completely on swearing. I can only stand it in some songs, and I always bust out laughing when I hear them. (god's made metal or something by Manowar)

hushypushy

May 7th, 2007, 15:50

Aided Onslaught

May 7th, 2007, 16:32

Yeah, I admit I'm not a Metallica fan (I like some songs) but they don't have any lyrics that really stick out. They have like 2 cool lines and then say something really stupid on the next. Metallica has always been more about the music anyhow, and how that they abandon that, they are nothing.

May 7th, 2007, 16:44

About swearing: depends on the context. Pop bands use it call attention. Thrash bands use it to express ideas ("**** it all and ****ing no regrets, never happy ending on these dark sets" - do you still work for them, industrian? ;))

@cid: just got the "when angels reach the beauty" album. gonna listen it now.

And a last note about linkin park, the lyrics are also different. And I have an explanation: with shinoda's fort minor, lp is now a chester's project. i believe it'll be more rock as the time passes.

industrian

May 7th, 2007, 16:59

Swearing in songs means you're dealing with an uncreative songwriter who isn't able to convey his emotions into proper written language.

I personally think it's all about who sings it and how they carry it across. Eric Adams singing "No ****ing way!" in the live version of Kings of Metal sounds great. Trent Reznor singing lyrics "I want to **** you like an animal" also is carried across greatly. However, with bands like Linkin Park and other pop acts, you get the feeling that the word is just being used either to be offensive, or just because they can't think of a better word to use.

Seems like we walked the same path into metal, I have both those Limp Bizkit albums here as well. Same goes for my brother, he got into Linkin Park before I introduced him into true metal.

My manager gave me the Black Album around this time six years ago. Hard to imagine it's been that long. :p Some of my Quebecois friends also introduced me to Anonymus in late 2001. I listened to nu-metal until mid-2002, when I went to college. Then my music collection just exploded (i owned 90 CDs at the beginning, and over 300 a year later.)

Yeah, I admit I'm not a Metallica fan (I like some songs) but they don't have any lyrics that really stick out. They have like 2 cool lines and then say something really stupid on the next. Metallica has always been more about the music anyhow, and how that they abandon that, they are nothing.

I disagree completely. Lyrics to songs like Fade to Black, Disposable Heroes, One, The God That Failed, My Friend of Misery, Hero of the Day and Until It Sleeps are great. Their lyrics got better whilst their music got worse.

St. Anger doesn't count though. Lyrics like "MY LIFESTYLE DETERMINES MY DEATHSTYLE!!!" makes me want to piss a kidney stone.

About swearing: depends on the context. Pop bands use it call attention. Thrash bands use it to express ideas ("**** it all and ****ing no regrets, never happy ending on these dark sets" - do you still work for them, industrian? ;))

About Metallica as well, very few of their songs have swear words in them. Live it's a different story of course.

just got the "when angels reach the beauty" album. gonna listen it now.

Good choice. That's the only Graveworm album I've given a lot of time to. It has great songs.

Aided Onslaught

May 7th, 2007, 17:14

I wasn't saying all metallica lyrics, but really some of the lines are just plain bad. This goes for a lot of band however.

As for lyrics in general. I hate hearing common sayings. I've heard them my whole life, and now I'm going to hear them in this song over and over. I think people need to be more creative, and work out side of the sixth grade english class.

I really don't give a **** what linkin park or any other nuage band does. Theirs to much gold out there to dig though the **** to get some coper.

Cid Highwind

May 7th, 2007, 17:31

That's harsh, man. Have you listened to any live Metallica?

Note the difference I made between live and studio recordings. Although it's highly subjective to say certain bands can get away with it while others cannot. Some swearing isn't bad when it fits the context. But not when it's done just to swear, just to be cool.

industrian

May 7th, 2007, 17:38

As for lyrics in general. I hate hearing common sayings.

Give Queensrÿche a try then. :p One of their songs ("I Don't Believe In Love" from the classic Operation: Mindcrime) has the lyric: "There's no raison d'être."

I'd love to see a lesser band try to carry that pretentious line over. Queensrÿche do it perfectly.

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Great stuff.

EDIT: Holy ****! Rorschach Test are back together and are making a new album. I'm sure I'm the only guy who'll find that newsworthy though.

Aided Onslaught

May 7th, 2007, 17:54

Oh, I do like Queensryche. I'm not the biggest fan, but they are awesome. I tried to listen to their tribe album...but it just sucked...

They are also Kamelot's biggest influence.

hushypushy

May 7th, 2007, 18:39

Note the difference I made between live and studio recordings. Although it's highly subjective to say certain bands can get away with it while others cannot. Some swearing isn't bad when it fits the context. But not when it's done just to swear, just to be cool.

Live in a studio? :heh:

(bah, their live-in-the-studio album sucked :/)

Chrono Archangel

May 8th, 2007, 00:21

Some of my Quebecois friends also introduced me to Anonymus in late 2001. I listened to nu-metal until mid-2002, when I went to college. Then my music collection just exploded (i owned 90 CDs at the beginning, and over 300 a year later.)

Anonymus is great. Their work with Monon'c Serge is good too :)
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industrian

May 8th, 2007, 04:23

Sans dessein! The entire Stress album kicks ass. Not as much as Instinct or Daemonium though.

From what I've heard of their stuff as a three-piece - they're pretty bad.

Un Pied Dans La Tombe is by far the best song on Stress though.

gI1SkaMueC4

Chrono Archangel

May 8th, 2007, 12:23

Another good Quebecois band is Quo Vadis.
Their Defiant Indoctrination DVD is awesome. :)

Cid Highwind

May 8th, 2007, 15:24

They were in the Netherlands on the 4th of January this year, but I couldnt make it unfortunately. They were on tour with Kataklysm and Vader I think. Ive seen Kataklysm before though, not my cup of tea though.

industrian

May 8th, 2007, 16:54

Another good Quebecois band is Quo Vadis.
Their Defiant Indoctrination DVD is awesome. :)

Long (http://forums.ngemu.com/924081-post92.html) term (http://forums.ngemu.com/925698-post115.html) memory (http://forums.ngemu.com/963480-post261.html) ftw. ;) :p

And yeah, I need to get that DVD. :)

Chrono Archangel

May 8th, 2007, 23:26

if (longDay && dayToRemember<= SystemDateGet() - 30)
throw error("Invalid memory location");

industrian

May 8th, 2007, 23:55

I tend to blame the beer, not faulty programming. ;)

Then again, the programmer was probably drunk.

Chrono Archangel

May 9th, 2007, 03:07

I tend to blame the beer, not faulty programming. ;)

Then again, the programmer was probably drunk.

damm you know me too well :p

Aided Onslaught

May 25th, 2007, 02:06

Nightwish - The Official Website (http://nightwish.com/)

Nightwish finally showing the new singer...tarja clone it seems like...surprise!

I didn't hear here voice enough to really comment on it...nothing to special from what I can tell at low volume...

I'm losing a lot of interest in this band...ever since Tarja changed her vocal style on century child...every now and then you get a good song...we shall she...

Nightwish News (http://www.nuclearblast.de/nightwish/eva/index.htm)

Chrono Archangel

May 25th, 2007, 03:13

Interesting, thanks for the news.
I listened to the Eva sound clip they have and she doesnt sound at all like Tarja... and she has a nice voice. I just hope that's not the sound they are aiming for the next Nightwish album though

May 25th, 2007, 06:05

Not as hot as Sharon Den Adel. They should have put Sharon there when Tarja went out.

From Nightwish to Dream Theater, anyone into Systemic Chaos (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systematic_Chaos)? Currently listening to it, so far I can say it's a good album. My favorite is Prophets of War. (one thing that scares me, the guitar distortion used on the beggining of "Dark Eternal Night" reminds me so much of Slipknot o_o)

Aided Onslaught

May 25th, 2007, 15:32

Yeah, her voice is good, but it doesn't stick out...could just be the song...shall see. And what I meant by clone is her looks.

I don't think Sharon would have worked with them. Her voice is good, but just a weird style...Also Within Temptation is way more nu age sounding...the only reason I like some of their songs is because of the keys and her voice. Other than that I thing the rest of the band just sucks.

Cid Highwind

May 25th, 2007, 15:37

It's not Nu Age, it's symphonic pop rock. When your stuff is played on MTV and your concerts attracts candybar-colour clothed 12 year olds, you it ain't metal anymore ;)

I prefer After Forever and Epica.

Aided Onslaught

May 25th, 2007, 16:34

oh we are involving the pop aspect into what the genra is? okay *incert face, to lazy to use advanced or whatever*

I like Epica a lot, but once again (not near as band as WT) they really need to up the guitar work. They would sound so much better. Anyone hear their version of crystal mountain by death? I had it on random on my ipod, and thought it was death till her vocals come in, just a death scream.

Cid Highwind

May 25th, 2007, 16:41

Within Temptation basically IS a popband in their home country. At a gig of theirs in 2005 people frowned at me and two friends for wearing Graveworm shirts and holding a liter of beer :???:

(it was the same place where Industrian and I saw Laibach btw )

May 25th, 2007, 17:05

Aided Onslaught

May 25th, 2007, 18:05

Oh, I wasn't inferring that you were either. I was just saying I don't think the vocal styles would mix well.

Haha, that's funny what happened to you Cid. Goes to show have media can make stupid people like even decent stuff.

Industrian: I started to listen to the Glorious burden, and I'm starting to take to it. I guess I just need time off to really start to like it (4 years? damn time goes), but that's how it seems to be with Iced Earth in general for me. It takes a lot of time...weird.

industrian

May 25th, 2007, 20:04

Nightwish finally showing the new singer...tarja clone it seems like...surprise!

I didn't hear here voice enough to really comment on it...nothing to special from what I can tell at low volume...
Interesting, thanks for the news.
I listened to the Eva sound clip they have and she doesnt sound at all like Tarja... and she has a nice voice. I just hope that's not the sound they are aiming for the next Nightwish album though

She sounds even more pop-friendly than Tarja had become.

They should just use Marco as the lead singer (he's my favourite male vocalist) and get some female guest vocals for each song as necessary.

I'm losing a lot of interest in this band...ever since Tarja changed her vocal style on century child.

TBH, I never lost interest in them. Oceanborn is a classic album IMO, and Once (believe it or not) was my favourite CD of 2004.

Industrian: I started to listen to the Glorious burden, and I'm starting to take to it. I guess I just need time off to really start to like it (4 years? damn time goes), but that's how it seems to be with Iced Earth in general for me. It takes a lot of time...weird.

I'm listening to a lot of my "older" (read: stuff i've not listened to in years) CDs right now. It is hard to believe that it's been 3 years since I last listed to Seventh Son of a Seventh Son.

Aided Onslaught

May 27th, 2007, 13:06

I love a lot of parts in once, but other just don't seem right. Mostly due to Tarja's voice. She was forcing a style that didn't work with her, and really brought a good bit of the songs down.

Cid Highwind

May 28th, 2007, 03:04

Well I wasn't comparing Nightwish to WT, but I have always prefered Sharon than Tarja, both phisically and sound-wise. :p Now comparing both bands, it's CLEARLY KNOWN that Nightwish is 'more band' than Within Temptation.
Sharon's hot, then again, so is sweet Floor (Jansen) http://www.friend2friend.biz/md/images/after%20forever.jpg

Btw Mire, I'm definitely gonna hunt down Demons and Wizards ;) The songs I heard were among the best metal tracks I've ever heard.

Urine Sample

May 31st, 2007, 11:42

Is anybody here going to Download?

The Magic Hobo

May 31st, 2007, 11:50

Download what?

Urine Sample

May 31st, 2007, 11:55

The music festival in Donington park. In England. It has some of the best metal bands this year. Unfortunately MCR are goin as well. In Flames are going though, LEGENDARY!

The Magic Hobo

May 31st, 2007, 11:56

Uh geez! You going are ya'?

Aided Onslaught

May 31st, 2007, 12:07

Who cares about in flames, quit supporting them already, god damn...They need to learn to play real metal again.

Cid Highwind

May 31st, 2007, 13:03

I just had a look at the lineup, and if I'd live anywhere near the Download festival, I'd only go on Sunday. It's the only day which seems to have good bands at any time of the day: Iron Maiden, After Forever and Dream Theater being my reasons. On Saturday there is absolutely nothing of my interest except Mötley Crüe, and on Friday there's Velvet Revolver and Dragonforce, of which I have seen the latter twice already.

There's also one problem I have with such festivals in general: There's too many crappy bands I have to pay for. 60 pounds for a single day ticket goes well beyond my budget.

I'd rather see Manowar, DSG and Gamma Ray for €10,- and spend the rest of what I save on fuel ;)

May 31st, 2007, 15:38

Sharon's hot, then again, so is sweet Floor (Jansen) http://www.friend2friend.biz/md/images/after%20forever.jpg

Btw Mire, I'm definitely gonna hunt down Demons and Wizards ;) The songs I heard were among the best metal tracks I've ever heard.
Damn how could I forget AF. Shame on me. And hell yeah, I'd hit her one, two, nine times in a row. :D

And I am really happy for reading that you have listened to D&W. :) Been telling you for eras, that's because it's an awesome band. You really should get their album as I'm sure you'll enjoy every track. Although I prefer the second album better.

Which song did you listen? :)

Cid Highwind

May 31st, 2007, 17:43

I don't even know which album, most likely the first, they put it on from the beginning. I heard a song or 5 and then I fell asleep, not because of the music mind you :p

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 13:07

Uh geez! You going are ya'?

No. We have are GCSE's to look forward to. I'll go next year and see Stone Sour. And what does Aided Onslaught mean by "Who cares about In Flames". God will smite him for this remark.

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 13:17

Hmm, we should go...together! And In flames are quite good, screw god, I WILL SMITE HIM! *shoots lighting from fingers*

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 13:39

Yeah. When is it? If its after our GCSE's i'll go and start kicking-ass with you.

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 13:49

BritishConcerts.com: Tickets for all UK concerts and events (http://www.seetickets.com/britishconcerts/event.asp?e%7Cartist=DOWNLOAD+2007&resultsperpage=20&filler1=see&filler3=id1britishconcerts) Uhhhh:angry: Gonna miss it this year:angry: :angry: If thats the right one I just looked up:D

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 13:50

Yeah. Its a ****ter. Some of my favourite bands are playing as well!

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 13:53

Its not fair, ahhhhhhh!! *turns into incredible hulk* But there is next year, it will be worth the wait!

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 13:57

Next year will be legendary. Hopefully they'll have better bands head-lining than Linkin Park and MCR. If All That Remains play next year I will have an orgey. It would be even more legendary if SOAD got back together to play.

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 13:58

Ohh dont, Im getting moist thinking about it!

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 14:02

Man...Korn *faints*. *Drowns in own drool*.

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 14:05

Korn?! *faints and falls down next to US drowning in same pool of drool*

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 14:10

Is there a website where i can see where bands i like are playing gigs. Because i've been killing myself since someone told they went to DragonForces second strike the day after they played.

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 14:18

Check that website I linked you too for the download dates BritishConcerts.com: Official Box Office for tickets to all UK concerts and events (http://www.britishconcerts.com/?gclid=CMGAltOAu4wCFShEEAodmHUZWg)

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 14:30

Thanks. Hehe lets go see Barbra Streisand.

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 14:33

I'd sooner eat my own scrotum...

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 14:40

Hey Mnemic might be playing close to us. Besides them I don't think much else is playing close.

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 14:42

Whens that then? And where as a matter of fact?

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 14:44

I think next month some time. They're playing in a couple of places. See for yourself. My geography of England is **** so I don't know most of those towns.

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 14:52

Ha, me neither, nothing a quick visit to google earth wont fix!

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 14:52

Hehe. Cheater.

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 14:55

What am I supposed to do? Pull a map out me a$$?

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 15:07

That would be conveniant, yes.

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 15:13

That would be conveniant, yes.

You and your witty comebacks :rolleyes: We are getting offtopic though, so let us not continue talking of things not to do with the title of this thread:p

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 15:14

Have you ever heard of Still Remains?

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 15:15

Heard of yes, know anything about, no. Are they any good?

Urine Sample

June 1st, 2007, 15:19

Yeah they're pretty good. U can borrow the album off me. They're best song is The Worst is Yet to Come and you can see it on Youtube.

The Magic Hobo

June 1st, 2007, 15:21

Me, use youtube? Are you forgetting Im on a 36 KB/s dial up! And sure, let me borrow it off ya', you could give it too me on monday, are you going into Bridgwater in the morining before the maths exam, or do you do Geography?

Aided Onslaught

June 2nd, 2007, 15:58

This went from metal to "nu age- promoted out the ass bull****"

In flames use to be good, then they got ride of solo, add ****ty vocals or wining, and then worst of all, got ride of melodies.

I'm not being rude, just what the hell happened? I mean linkin park is in the metal section. I was pissed seeing slipknot in there, but now linkin park?! Should be in rap. Next time I go to fye, it's getting moved!

Urine Sample

June 2nd, 2007, 16:04

Slipknot couldn't be anymore metal. They're like the pinnacle of metal. And In Flames are more melodic than ever. I hate how they put all these bands under different genres. Promotion is the only way a band has a chance anymore, there is so many that you only ever hear of a few.

Aided Onslaught

June 2nd, 2007, 18:26

You know how slipknots newest album is much more melodic? do you know why? Their record producer said "NO SOLOs, no nothing" What does that leave you? Just heavy crap. Really think about it. The genra of "nu" is all about scrapping the bottom of the barrel. The only metal thing about them, is they use the same type of guitars, but with a ****ty "oh I'm badass" distortion.

Sorry, but I'm in flames is not more melodic than ever, they are getting better than where they were on 2nd cd after R2R, but god lord they aren't where they should be. I LOVE most of their stuff from clayman and before. You know what their excuse was for changing their style so much? "because it didn't work live." For one, I've heard some of their live stuff, if you spend a few more bucks on a person who could EQ it better, then you are fine.

I've heard so many bands it's really not funny. Some are just NOW getting SOME promotion, most still are barely even known in their own home town. It's unbelievable how many bands I still can't buy CDs of, and I'm not spending 35 bucks on importing one either.

So is promotion the answer, or is it someone who wants to find good music, and not let the **** swim to the house hold tv?

Urine Sample

June 3rd, 2007, 11:51

If you like a band before they changed. Then only buy the albums you liked. Change can be a good and bad thing. To one person the band has improved and to the other, the band has gotten worse.

How else are you going to listen to a foreign band. As you said you don't want to import a CD so the only way you are ever going to get a chance to see them is if a record company invests in them. Some music is better than nothing.

P.S Slipknot were always badass.

Aided Onslaught

June 3rd, 2007, 15:11

Thanks for the common sense, but I'm not using opinion in my statements. When I say something is this or that, it's based on more facts than anything. Melodic value, complexity, if it took time or not, most of all the test of time. I heard the one in flames song off the newest cd, and it's not near as bad as on soundtrack to your escape (****ty title by the way) but it's still not anything like their old stuff. (yeah, their lyrics get worst and worst too...)

Internet, I've said what I do before on here. Download, see if I like it, when I can find the disk, buy it, and then send my burn cd to those who just don't know. Some bands get popular off of gayspace.com and I've found a few band threw there too. Very easy to give them the "what the hell" or the "holy hell!" You miss the point, all the ****ty music in the world isn't worth one great song. Does anyone have standard anymore?!

Yeah, good argument. You win.

Cid Highwind

June 3rd, 2007, 15:33

Metal is one of the genres closest to classical music, hence for me and most other true metal fans to bastardize nu-metal. Such crap should be prohibited from being exported out of the states.

Where's the melody? Where's the art? Nu-metal is the sole reason most people unfamiliar with metal think it is about making as much noise as possible with guitars accompanied with screaming your lungs out.

That ain't metal.

Aided Onslaught

June 3rd, 2007, 15:59

Urine Sample

June 3rd, 2007, 16:16

There's always melody in music. Nu-metal is an art. Whether you like it or not is based on opinion so what you say isn't fact. All the ****ty music in the world is worth the one great song. Because you have an option whether to listen to **** or not. The only reason you might want to rid the world of certain types of music is if you belong to a self-righteous group where your opinion is biased. Your 'standard' is once again your opinion.

Aided Onslaught

June 3rd, 2007, 16:29

AH, I love when people use the word "art". You sound like a rapper. haha, then again, nu-age to me is rap with distortion. Rap is talk radio with a beat.

No their isn't. Many people don't know this, but rapping and screaming aren't musical AT ALL. Their are no notes. Let's say you want to argue that there is rhythm involved. A drummer doesn't get credit to songs. Know why? Because they didn't create any string of notes, just a rhythm.

Classical, blues, folk, real metal, movie soundtracks, VG soundtracks, hard rock, opera, starting to like some jazz, shred, progressive, the list goes on.

So what group do I belong to *******? Here's the thing I've deal with musical idiots my full life, and here's the thing, I use to be one. I liked this nu-age bull**** too. THen I heard a sound. Guess who? In flames...

Is it possible to have guitar melodies the full way though a song with a ever better solo? Then I get into other bands much like this, and find that you have melodic vocals with guitars doing just the same. Then In Flames RAPS my ass with R2R. 3 songs maybe I'll listen to on there and they aren't even that great.

And here's another thing in flames (what the use to be..) is simple music. So what are they now (along with other "art" bands)? LAZY.

Your standards are quotes from the bands that make it seem okay to play this crap.

Cid Highwind

June 3rd, 2007, 16:43

I don't want to rid the world of nu-metal, there's a market for it and therefore it has a purpose and a right to be :)

However I'd love to get rid of the nu-metal==metal thing, because it does give metal a rather bad image. Mainly because it's rather hard to convince people a bastard like that has something in common with the works of Wagner.

Don't mind the video, but listen to this, and give me a good example of what you consider "art". I know art is subjective, and some consider even a steaming turd to be art, but there's also certain standards to consider, skill being one first.
W09k_qDzOhY

Good luck finding a song closer to the classical origins of metal in the nu metal genre than an example such as mine.

Aided Onslaught

June 3rd, 2007, 16:58

Cid, you are much more settle than I am. I know "in your face" doesn't do anything, but ****, I'm just pissed and sick of the same crap for over 5 years now.

Anywho, I have a feeling that advantasia or any other power/metal opera band is going to be made fun of because of the higher pitched vocals or just full vocals. It always seems to be the case.

"they sound like girls"
"that's cool, for the 1400! LOL"

Metal to people now-a-days is "heavy ass extreme, meatball vocal, I hate my dad" music. Whatever marketing term you can think of. So when they hear real music with the orchestra, metal guitars, and opera vocals, you get called a weird girl like music lover, or some bull****.

Funny how something like this never gets noticed, but..
YouTube - Rob Marcello Neoclassical Shred 1 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ywo0Mc8ELEg)

slipknot is just awesome for this...
YouTube - Slipknot - Spit it out (Live) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=_uhSSAv3o4M)

is that rap I hear? what the hell...

The Magic Hobo

June 3rd, 2007, 17:07

Urine sample is right, what you are using as your standrard for music is your own opinion(like US said), music is expresion of ideas and/or feelings, nothing more, there is no "standard" for what music is.

Urine Sample

June 3rd, 2007, 17:09

All music is an art. That example you have given me is your idea of metal not mine. And dont tell me my idea of metal is wrong as my view is varied. Orchestra and opera vocals is a style of metal. That would be like me saying nu-metal is the only metal. I cannot give an example as yours is based on your belief of what metal is. Im not a fool who follows what they think is 'cool' and what the current popular thing is. As liking what you want is what metal is about.

The Magic Hobo

June 3rd, 2007, 17:20

Aided Onslaught

June 3rd, 2007, 17:21

Orchestra and opera is a style used IN metal.

We are saying nu-metal is the only style that really isn't metal. one style to what a camillion-billion (not a real number, there are just so many)

Lets take what metal started as. Hard rock that tends to have tighter guitars, slightly more heavy, and more melodic.

Now lets see how it's changed, and grew over the years. More influence in the genera that devolved metal at a whole. More technical approaches (things like sweep picking, alternate picking, different modes and scales, so on...) Use of orchestra and choirs. Someone else help me out here

Do you have to have all of that? hell no, but should you still keep the values that make metal, metal, to claim to be metal? What the one value? melodic.

Now lets look at what all the numetal does. no solos, mostly talking, rap at times (if that isn't the bottom, I don't know what is). no guitar melodies, random guitar noise thats out of key and reminds me of a baby getting rand over by a truck.

Keep listening to whatever you want, it's the fact that it's called metal that pisses me off. People spend all their life learning about music theory and then look what gets popular.

The Magic Hobo

June 3rd, 2007, 17:23

I agree, sorting music into groups is stupid, cus the lines between each type of music is so thin you cant really define what type of music a band/song is.

Aided Onslaught

June 3rd, 2007, 17:27

Urine sample, you could argue that liking metal is in direct contrast to liking what is "cool", mot people like all this "chav" sh1t, which is unfortuanately what most think is cool, if you like metal your branded as a goth or an emo or something along those lines, just cus metal is (like you said) being induvidual and not being a sheep and listening to the same old crap that every fuker else listens too.

goth or emo? When I hear emo I think of hardcore dip****s.
Goth? I think of stupid 12 year old girls.

metal isn't a life style. This pisses me off more. metal is music. Where where you born hot topic? god lord.

The Magic Hobo

June 3rd, 2007, 17:32

That was my point, music cant define who we are, nor can we live to "conform" to a certain type of music, music is something we listen to because it relates to how we are feeling, your angry, you listen to something angry, your sad, you listen to sometihng sad. There are people who emulate music, but this is normally rap, people who brag about shooting each other and ****, metal has no "message", it is(like I said) something you listen to fit your mood, I never said metal was a lifestyle, although I can understand if what I meant got lost in translation so to speak.

Aided Onslaught

June 3rd, 2007, 17:35

Okay sorry, but..

I don't listen to music for a mood. I listen so I can *whistles the intro to center of the universe by Kamelot* HEAR something.

Urine Sample

June 3rd, 2007, 17:38

Hehe. We did the exact opposite of the title of the thread.

The Magic Hobo

June 3rd, 2007, 17:42

I listen to music to fit my mood, like If im pissed off I'll listen to some system, If im feeling a bit down I'll listen to something like "infinite Dreams", but yeah, music can also be listend to as "somehting to do". And your right unrine, but we're not having a go at each other, we debating ummmmm, what were we debating agian?

Urine Sample

June 3rd, 2007, 17:43

The defanition of metal. I listen to music because im addicted.

The Magic Hobo

June 3rd, 2007, 17:45

Its like a drug..*starts twitching*

Urine Sample

June 3rd, 2007, 17:46

Right now im listening to music. If I go cold turkey for too long my family dies

The Magic Hobo

June 3rd, 2007, 17:50

Im listening to Iron Maiden, what are you listening to Urine?

Urine Sample

June 3rd, 2007, 17:52

Lordi

The Magic Hobo

June 3rd, 2007, 17:53

Which song, Im listening to "number of the beast".

Urine Sample

June 3rd, 2007, 18:01

The kids who wanna play with the dead

hushypushy

June 3rd, 2007, 18:09

Hehe. We did the exact opposite of the title of the thread.

Well, it's not all about "let's have the same opinion", it's more about "let's share and learn something from each other", right? ;)

It's weird for me reading this thread, because I like mainly brutal death metal, the stuff that most of the posters in here have already admitted they don't listen to much because they don't like it. And I listen to most of the stuff they listen to as a joke because I find it ridiculous and I can't take it serious (yet I still listen and enjoy...who doesn't love to pump their fist to Hammerfall?).

But you see, it's the diversity that makes it awesome. If we all agreed on everything, there'd be nothing to talk about!

Cid Highwind

June 3rd, 2007, 18:36

Hehe. We did the exact opposite of the title of the thread.

lol, well you guys brought in the nu metal :p

j/k man.

Let me say this again, just to form a sort of counterbalance opposed to Aided's posts who indeed went for the rather direct in your face approach :D

Nu Metal basically grabs so many things from other genres, but also from Trash metal and combines it into a new style of its own most of us know as Nu Metal. The thing is that it brought in so many kids who are actually rather the opposite of the individual you guys described, have a look at those sheep in the Slipknot video for instance. Then again, if we sing along with Hammerfall, we're not sheep, but brothers :p

It's pretty ironic and I've kinda given up on kicking against Nu Metal and all, cause what's the point? We all like our own stuff best. But it really is sad to see that so many people miss out on their classic stuff, ye olde metal, with which it all began. The melodic stuff which even you grandma won't run away from, or turn down the volume on her in-ear hearing aid ;)

It's the fact that so many people only get in contact with Nu Metal and make that become the definition of metal to them, as in:
- Screaming
- Distortion guitars
- more distortion
- fast and aggressive drums
- mosh pits where kids come home from black and bruised

I think that's the reason why a lot of metalheads don't like Nu Metal and their followers. Perhaps also because a large part of their audience are 14 year old kids who simply don't give a crap for the roots of their music, and classical music in general.

That's kinda how I think about things.

And I can really relate to what you say about the lyrics in European powermetal in general, Industrian pointed it out as well. The worst example is what I read in the booklet of Gamma Ray's Powerplant album. If it were any other random powermetal band I'd never touch it again, seriously. The lyrics are such a mash up of general clichés it's not even funny anymore. No wonder people look down on it.

Now grab a later album, No World Order, and then we're talking about something that has a story to tell. Much better because there's depth in the lyrics, they give you something to talk about and discuss with friends.

As for the type of lyrics from Hammerfall, Freedom Call and Manowar. Either I take them with a pack of salt and just enjoy them for what they are, or I try to look on a new level at them. Intended or not, some of them do provide a lot of nice ideas and overall believes for life, even if it's just about warriors and battle. It's the courage, having faith in yourself and being positive in life things that are the key message :)

Urine Sample

June 3rd, 2007, 20:34

well you guys brought in the nu metal :p

have a look at those sheep in the Slipknot video for instance. Then again, if we sing along with Hammerfall, we're not sheep, but brothers :p

Cheap shots.

Music isn't supposed to make you think or have any deep meaning. It's supposed to make you feel good.

hushypushy

June 3rd, 2007, 20:38

but also from Trash metal

Thrash or trash? :p

Also, regarding lyrics...it's not really the lyrics that I pay attention to (although, HEEDING THE CALL ONE AND FOR ALL NEVER SURRENDER WITH GLORY WE FALL is pretty funny, I mean just to have thought of it), it's definitely more of the music. Listen to Dying Fetus, Morbid Angel, and Necrophagist for a bit...and then put on Finntroll. I really do enjoy the music...but I oftentimes wonder if the laughs I get after putting that on are at me or the music :heh:

The Magic Hobo

June 3rd, 2007, 20:38

Urine Sample

June 3rd, 2007, 21:00

That comes naturally though.

JKKDARK

June 3rd, 2007, 22:31

Metal Sludge (http://www.metalsludge.tv/home/index.php) website was hacked! :cry: :cry:

Cid Highwind

June 3rd, 2007, 23:04

Cheap shots.

Music isn't supposed to make you think or have any deep meaning. It's supposed to make you feel good.

Hence the smilies, cause I didn't mean them in an offensive way or whatsoever, more like looking at my own fav music with irony :)

I don't agree with your statement though, because, and I think that's the good thing about music, it can be used for so many reasons. It can be used just to cheer you up, to annoy people, or to even make political statements. So to say music isn't supposed to have a deep meaning is not true in any way.

@ Hushy: I made a typo again? :lol: Perhaps it also gives a nice idea of how I think of that particular sub genre as well.

Oh and Aided, I forgot to tell you that video of the neoclassical part ROCKED! Man he's good. It also made me think of how you recommended Marcel Coenen to me. Funnily enough I kinda became the roadie of a band by some of my friends, which is Sun Caged's bass player's ex band. He became a bit too good for those guys and their cover band ;) It's interesting to see how their ex drummer now plays in a professional band as well, Silent Edge.

hushypushy

June 4th, 2007, 02:51

Not completely true urine, some music is suppose to have meaning, like Iron maiden-"Infinite dreams", if you listen to the lyrics it talks about fearing death and hoping there is something after life...

Most bands have meaning in their songs, or at least some basis. Very few bands (a la Green Jelly or The Beatles) made music that was pointless on purpose. Some metal bands have such serious lyrics, that in itself is kind of strange oO

@ Hushy: I made a typo again? :lol: Perhaps it also gives a nice idea of how I think of that particular sub genre as well.

Thrash metal is great though! Especially early Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax...where is Jkkdark to lecture us on the beauty of 80s metal? :lol:

JKKDARK

June 4th, 2007, 03:15

Most bands have meaning in their songs, or at least some basis. Very few bands (a la Green Jelly or The Beatles) made music that was pointless on purpose.
Mötley Crüe's Girls, Girls, Girls (http://www.stlyrics.com/lyrics/readytorumble/girlsgirlsgirls.htm), Warrant's Cherry Pie (http://www.lyricsdownload.com/warrant-cherry-pie-lyrics.html) ... but they are my favorite songs and were smash hits.

Thrash metal is great though! Especially early Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax...where is Jkkdark to lecture us on the beauty of 80s metal? :lol:
I like Thrash Metal, with bands like Megadeth and Metal Church. And Glam Metal kick ass, Quiet Riot's Cum On Feel The Noize was the first metal song to make the Top 5 on Billboard's Hot 100 singles chart, in 1983.

Cid Highwind

June 4th, 2007, 10:04

Thrash metal is great though! Especially early Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax...where is Jkkdark to lecture us on the beauty of 80s metal? :lol:
True, but in general I don't really like it too much perhaps because as with so many sub genres there's also so many sub-standard bands just trying to make noise. The fact I love powermetal most makes me more tolerant to sub-standard bands from that genre I guess :)

Heh, nice to see JKK in here. I enjoy a lot of the old stuff as well. JKK, did you ever see the "Moscow Music Peace Festival" from '91 or something? The first hard rock festival in the USSR. Bon Jovi, Skid Row and Cinderella, it's awesome!

hushypushy

June 4th, 2007, 10:07

You're more about hair/glam metal though, rather than the (more serious and poor) thrash metal.

Are you into early Pantera, the glam era? That was a ridiculous time for them.

True, but in general I don't really like it too much perhaps because as with so many sub genres there's also so many sub-standard bands just trying to make noise.

Well, no one is forcing you to listen to the crappy bands, just listen to the good ones :p If you couldn't like a genre because it had crappy bands in it, you'd have absolutely nothing to listen to!

JKKDARK

June 4th, 2007, 14:38

Heh, nice to see JKK in here. I enjoy a lot of the old stuff as well. JKK, did you ever see the "Moscow Music Peace Festival" from '91 or something? The first hard rock festival in the USSR. Bon Jovi, Skid Row and Cinderella, it's awesome!
Yes, it was 1989. Mötley Crüe, Scorpions and Ozzy were also in the concert :)

Are you into early Pantera, the glam era? That was a ridiculous time for them.
80's Pantera was good, too bad they didn't get a mayor label. Did you hear Power Metal album? There are some thrash/speed metal songs.
I was trying to buy their compilation album but they didn't include any 80's song :(

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bf/Panterapowermetal.PNG

Cid Highwind

June 4th, 2007, 15:17

Well, no one is forcing you to listen to the crappy bands, just listen to the good ones :p If you couldn't like a genre because it had crappy bands in it, you'd have absolutely nothing to listen to!
Very true, I still have some old Metallica material here, never really gave it the proper attention. Mainly because once I'm done listening one album, I buy another one that I play until I buy another one. That's the thing with stuff I don't buy, I don't even try to love it that much, unfortunately.

Edit: WTF, wrong thread :p

hushypushy

June 4th, 2007, 18:14

I was trying to buy their compilation album but they didn't include any 80's song :(

haha yeah, I think they were pretty ashamed of that period of time...actually I can't see how anyone wouldn't be ashamed of that phase. The guys from Kiss carry themselves amazingly well for having dressed up in insane outfits for years.

Very true, I still have some old Metallica material here, never really gave it the proper attention. Mainly because once I'm done listening one album, I buy another one that I play until I buy another one. That's the thing with stuff I don't buy, I don't even try to love it that much, unfortunately.

That's what the internet is for :evil:

Also, that's another interesting note regarding different music habits. I get really bored listening to the same things over and over, so I'm always checking out new stuff constantly...I have like a 40 gig backup of music I have NEVER listened to, it's kind of weird. Hell, even right now, I'm not at home but I'm listening to music I've never heard before (the new Beastie Boys).

On a side note though, I hardly ever listen to Metallica anymore...they used to be my favorite band :(

Cid Highwind

June 4th, 2007, 20:19

haha yeah, I think they were pretty ashamed of that period of time...actually I can't see how anyone wouldn't be ashamed of that phase. The guys from Kiss carry themselves amazingly well for having dressed up in insane outfits for years.

That's what the internet is for :evil:

Also, that's another interesting note regarding different music habits. I get really bored listening to the same things over and over, so I'm always checking out new stuff constantly...I have like a 40 gig backup of music I have NEVER listened to, it's kind of weird. Hell, even right now, I'm not at home but I'm listening to music I've never heard before (the new Beastie Boys).

On a side note though, I hardly ever listen to Metallica anymore...they used to be my favorite band :(
Why the evil smiley? I didn't break the law or something :p

It's funny how we're kinda the opposite of each other in that respect, I sometimes get a large deal of music in one go, but it can be in an old cluttered corner of my HDD for half a year before I suddenly browse through the files and notice there's some music there which I haven't listened. I usually go back to the regular stuff.

I hardly ever listen to Bon Jovi anymore these days btw. They were the ones to get me into hard rock and metal, I used wake up with their music and it used to be the songs I went to sleep with. It was sick really :p And I also had this Sonata Arctica addiction, but it's gone ever since the last gig. Which was a great one though. I have listened to their new album btw, and it's nice, less power metal, more progressive, a wise step. Still some emo lyrics that I can't really relate to though.