Metalheads unite

[darth sephiroth]

yeah they weren't bad, but i NEVER vote for someone who beg for the votes.

[Cid Highwind]

Well I'd vote for them simply to mock the whole system ;)

[hushypushy]

alright darth sephiroth, i removed your signature. be mindful of the rules ;)

[darth sephiroth]

Did you have to remove it so soon? Now i gotta go through the quiz again to get the image so i can resize it :(

oh well :P
now it's correct.... or?

[Cid Highwind]

Perfect ;)

Oh and to make it look less like spam, check this video (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2148840750282113215&q=graveworm)
It's pretty clear these retards never even seen a gig of the band they're trying to 'cover'. And when that asian looking loser attempted a grunt it was pathetic, maybe they should try ballet instead.

Now where did I put that shotgun :rolleyes:

[darth sephiroth]

Hmm, i hid it insite my walking stick *hands it over*

and just in case you missed nordi's dressing on eurovision:
http://www.cbsnews.com/images/2006/05/21/image263dfdd4-41f1-4bf9-a001-9feed49715dd.jpg

[Cid Highwind]

http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5157114,00.jpg
I really like the hat, it's the finishing touch :D

[MaZa]

Yeah, i really laughed my ass off when i saw it. Wonderfull gag! :lol: The blue Laplandish hat-of-four-winds he also had looked hilarious. :)

[industrian]

One thing i remember is Channel 4 News' "coverage" of Eurovision.

Actual quote:

"Before last night, the only thing the Finns could say they were winners in is having the second highest suicide rate in the developed world."

Looks like someone in the editorial department of Channel 4 has something against the Suomis. :p

[darth sephiroth]

Looks like someone in the editorial department of Channel 4 is gonna get *****slapped the moment they meet a suomi :P (or the moment they meet me, i got suomi friends :o)

[industrian]

I showed these to Cid last night, might as well share them with you guys.

Canada's second finest: Quo Vadis.

Point of No Return (The Mute Requiem) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrLOYxgEIrU

And if you need any more proof of their drummer being some sort of machine - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXcOeeTNV_Y

[Cid Highwind]

I command you: WATCH THEM

It's a good thing I was too tired to fall from my chair in amazement ;)

[darth sephiroth]

Nooooooo not youtube, so daaammmnnn sllloooowwwwwwwwwww.........

will give all my heavy opinions when it's finally done downloading...

[Aided Onslaught]

For how little I've listen to quo vadis I've always been impressed by the drummer. I have a qusetion, is there another band named that because I remember when checking them out I found a instrumental song that was really calm and quiet (very heavy on leads with the guitar), if anyone knows about that please let me know.

[industrian]

Have you got a sample of the tune? Quo Vadis have a good couple of instrumentals.

As for other bands called Quo Vadis, there is a Polish death metal (http://quovadis.metal.pl/) and a Hungarian rock band (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pageartist.cfm?bandID=252096) both with that name as well. :p

EDIT

I'd give that Polish Quo Vadis a listen to. ;) They have some pretty good tunes. Obviously a cannae unnerstand any a it, but it sounds good. :p It seems incredibly militant. Maybe get KanedA in to translate for us. :p

NKWD (http://www.metalpromo.com/mp3/QuoVadisNKWD.mp3) - Fundamental Law of The Universe and all of Existence: ANY song with the Hymn of the Soviet Union in it IS AWESOME.

Wave (http://www.metalpromo.com/mp3/QuoVadisWave.mp3)

Wielki Ogien (http://www.metalpromo.com/mp3/QuoVadisWielkiOgien.mp3)

Gdzie Jestes (http://www.metalpromo.com/mp3/QuoVadisGdzieJestes.mp3)

Dzihad (http://www.metalpromo.com/mp3/QuoVadisDzihad.mp3)

Zegary (http://www.metalpromo.com/mp3/QuoVadisZegary.mp3)

[darth sephiroth]

I find this song rather interesting, and AWESOME, at least the half i got before the net broke -.-

[Aided Onslaught]

They do have a really werid sound, I could get into it a little.

Anyhow that's now the sound of the quo vadis I remember (it was like 4 years ago so no I don't have a clip) and how I remember them kind of having a Twilightning sound almost but more rock like EQing on the instruments.

I would seach using limewire or something but I've had so much trouble with that thing...

[industrian]

Just remember kiddies, reference which Quo Vadis you're talking about. :p

I might get a CD of the Polish band's stuff.

[Cid Highwind]

So last night this girl gave me an album of Epica for my b'day, yay :D

Here's (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7181717899248741168&q=epica) one song of the album, note that this is a ballad and most of their songs are fast paced gothic metal songs, with some nice grunts as well. So far I really like the album and I'm getting into them more and more. Hopefull I'll be able to see them in June, because the gig of theirs I was supposed to see, well we didn't :(

One thing that really sucks with this album is that I can't play it on my computer. It forces me to listen to the 128kbit WMA files that are on the cd, ignoring the CDA on it, which aren't shown in explorer either. Since I want to listen to this album in the pure way it comes I'm forced to put it in the DC. Does anyone know a workaround so that I can listen to the (cloaked?) CDA files instead. Bah... copy protection, once again buyers are suffering. If I'd have wanted an illegal copy it wouldn't have cost me any effort anyway.

Ah well, let's not b!tch about it too much, so far I really like the album and I might write a review about it for my blog. And man I can not wait for next week when hopefully my Sonata and Hammerfall dvd's will arrive.

[Aided Onslaught]

Epica is one of the coolest bands out there, I love them. Very very good with the keys and her voice is very very natural where her operatic style doesn't seems forced like Tarja from nightwish. One thing I don't really like (but isn't really a bad thing) and how little the guitars play in the band, but it's not always like that. Within Temptation also has the lack of guitars, but are very strong with the keys and vocals.

[Cid Highwind]

Well I have to agree that the guitars are a bit more on the background on this album, but it never bothered me because the symphonic parts make up for it, so to me there isn't an emptiness left by it.

Within Temptation is a nice band, but it's become more of a poppish rockband with symphonic and gothic aspects. Their sound just isn't metal enough for me, and I can't stand seeing Sharon move her hands all the time. Also, that lumberjack makes grunts sound like wet farts. He should take a few classes at Graveworm :p Or maybe he shouldn't, because it will scare away the largest part of their 14 year old wannabe gothic fanbase.

[industrian]

David Shankle Group - Ashes To Ashes

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8511473351920709182

The guy used to play guitar for Manowar: enough said really. The song is pure American Power Metal: Fast guitars, fast keyboards, Halford/ D!ckinson-esque vocals, overall a fantastic song. You can't go wrong with guitar vs. keyboard duels. Plus, nekkid women. :)

[Cid Highwind]

Alright, you convinced me, but only with that final part :p

Edit:
Well it was a nice song but nothing special, I couldn't stand the vocals. The solo was alright but all other things about the song (including Matrix-like effects) hint at this band never becoming a headliner of their own, at least not in large venues.

[industrian]

They never really wanted to be big from what I gather. The vocalist makes comic books, and David Shankle himself has his own music school. :p

[Aided Onslaught]

I thought that song was freaking awesome. Thank you for sharing. I want my guitar to sound like that in the solo, very very clean shred sound.

[industrian]

Apparently I was wrong. According to Wikipedia, David Shankle Group has a new album out this year. @_@ Only he remains of the original lineup though.

BTW: Look out for his album "Ashes to Ashes (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00009LW5U/qid=1149011127/sr=1-26/ref=sr_1_26/002-9685485-7256034?s=music&v=glance&n=5174)."

[industrian]

Youtube time.

Metallica throughout the ages.

Awesome Old School Sh!t!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbAYWeBLA3s)

Creeping Death (Live) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZSjCQiaLiM)

Master of Puppets (Live) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTFp0WEpu7o)

One (Music Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbL5QkU1v5s) (one of the best music videos ever)

Nothing Else Matters (S&M Version) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsHLdSGeYc0) (The way nature intended)

[darth sephiroth]

Ah yes, nothing else does matter does it? ROCK FOR YOUR LIFE!!

[hushypushy]

screw youtube, i can just put on the S&M DVD, 5.1 sound :cool:

[darth sephiroth]

and what do you think i did?
it's just that i lack the surround sound :(

[hushypushy]

aww, bummer :( i love my 5.1 surround, everyone should get one...movies, music, and games come alive! :wub:

[industrian]

Live Aus Berlin + my 5.1 rig = guaranteed way of making an impression on elderly neighbours. Enough said.

[hushypushy]

i never really checked out live aus berlin. i mean, i watched it a little bit but never really explored its sonic depths.

rammstein should've released lichspielhaus (spelling?) in 5.1 (or did they, and im an idiot? i dont have the DVD..yet)

[darth sephiroth]

I think it's spelled lichestspielhaus, but i just think :/

I always wanted to check out live aus berlin, but i have to get it then wouldn't i :(

[industrian]

Lichtspielhaus.

:p

I'm not sure if it has 5.1 as I've never actually seen it. >_<

Live Aus Berlin is quite a fantastic show. The DVD of it omits Bück Dich for some strange reason (:p). It brought back fun memories of seeing them in Glasgow in 2002. I couldn't hear sh!t for days and got "hit" by Till. ;)

[hushypushy]

ok i finally looked at Amazon which i should've done in the first place; i just typed the name as best i could remember it.

1. yes it's Lichtspielhaus.
2. there isn't 5.1 sound
3. it's still badass...i watched it all at a friend's house, i'd seen most of the videos already, but still. it's amazing. their videos are still some of my all time favorites, i hope they release a new DVD with Amerika/Keine Lust/Mann Gegen Mann...

[industrian]

To revitalise this thread (lol) one of my d00dz who went to the Download Festival said that Metallica played a new song. Apparently it was around 7 minutes long and had a solo. :O My friend could have just been hammered though. I heard there was a good ol' fashioned riot.

Has Rick Rubin given Metallica the kick in the ass they needed? I can only hope so. *waits for something to appear online.*

[hushypushy]

dang industrian, you dont have any friends who show you this stuff? here's the video, (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-crxUFvZWso&search=metallica%20new%20song) you are almost a week late :p

[Cid Highwind]

A friend of mine went to a concert 1 or 2 weeks ago, they played for 2 and a half hours, and played the whole Master of Puppets album. Sounds like I missed out on something :(

[MT]

Metallica played a new song. Apparently it was around 7 minutes long and had a solo. :O
:O!
I think they have found that new-metal is not the best way.

[hushypushy]

yeah too bad they (and tool) are all over europe...damn european summer fests :p

[Cid Highwind]

Bah... take em all, just give me back Graveworm.

[industrian]

dang industrian, you dont have any friends who show you this stuff?

I have no IRL friends. :cry: :cry: :cry:

:p

I think the studio version will sound better. But from what I heard, Metallica seem to be near the right track again. :p

[hushypushy]

i'd HOPE the studio version would sound better!! dang.

they wont have bob rock this time, so there is hope. for the record i liked st. anger, minus the awful production.

[industrian]

i'd HOPE the studio version would sound better!! dang.

*insert generic hitting-a-trash-can-for-70-minutes joke here.*

:p

For the record though: I posted that three minutes after getting home from work, so that "i think the studio version will sound better" was overlooked by pretty much every one of my common sense detectors. :p

they wont have bob rock this time, so there is hope.

Rick Rubin has a knack for kicking the asses of failing bands.

for the record i liked st. anger

Heretic!!

[hushypushy]

hey you missed part of my quote! :p

st anger was neato. i hardly ever pay attention to song lyrics, so i dont/didnt notice how crappy they were, and the music actually wasnt too bad. i like the bonus DVD that came along with it, i enjoyed the songs much more there then on the album.

[industrian]

MY LIFESTYLE DETERMINES MY DEATHSTYLE!!!1111!!!!

:p ;)

The thing I really hated about St. Anger was the fact that no magazine I read at the time gave it anything less than 8/10 which was incredibly high. That and the stupid argument that is "if any other band had made it, it would have been a great album." The fact of the matter is that Metallica purposly have declined in quality and have used crap arguments to back up their case. Whereas, bands like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Manowar, Slayer, etc have not. The fact that it was the same band that wrote "One", "For Whom the Bell Tolls" and "The Unforgiven" that wrote "Frantic" just made it even worse.

[MT]

lol @ heretic :D
i've listened to st anger and frantic.hated them.
plus last night i've watched that 'somekindofmonster' documentary. it is somekind of **** really, what mercenaries like them don't do to promote nowadays-poser band of theirs.

edit: adding to industrian's list: fight fire with fire, creeping death and battery plz ktnx

[F-3582]

Hey, what about Nothing Else Matters? :D

*preparing for getting tortured to death*

[MT]

ooo of course :D
Sad but truuuuuuuuue... XD

[hushypushy]

see, this is what pisses me off with rabid fanboys (not accusing you guys of anything....but almost).

Metallica will NEVER EVER EVER NEVER make more songs like Fight Fire with Fire, Trapped Under Ice, or Damage, Inc. sorry. it will never happen. metallica evolved, they changed. (didnt i already post this same thing somewhere in this thread??)

when St. Anger came out, it had been such a break from load/reload that everyone was saying...ok well maybe they're going to go old school! but they didn't. they kept evolving. everyone was expecting their favorite album, part 2. people were let down by NOT hearing Master of Puppets II, or ...And Justice For All II.

that same thing happened with Tool. they take a fairly long time between albums (counting major releases only, 93, 96, 01, 06) to evolve. when their new album came out, people were MAJORLY disappointed! so many people were expecting Lateralus II (their last album, because it was absolutely stunning) that they were blinded by the fact that the new album is probably one of the greatest albums of all time--but in a vastly different way than their other albums.

Metallica is different. live with it. if you don't like their new music, that's fine. no one is forcing you to listen to it. Metallica produced more amazing music than most bands could ever imagine to produce, and now, 25 years after they got their start, they've changed their style and you're complaining about it?? i find it really hard to believe your statement that metallica have purposely declined in quality. WTF???

for the record, i like Frantic. in fact, i like St. Anger as an album, i used to listen to it all the time. i used my mind powers to block out the ****ty recording, and i never listen to lyrics anyway, so it wasn't that hard.

once you get over your preconceptions over what music/movies/people/anything "should" be--you will enjoy your world a lot more. of course, there is nothing wrong with not liking St. Anger. hell, there is nothing wrong with not liking Master of Puppets. opinions--everyone's got 'em ;)

[Cid Highwind]

Reminds me a bit of what I had with the latest albums of both Graveworm and After Forever. Graveworm turned from a gothic/blackmetal style to nu/blackmetal, leaving out a lot of good things they used to have like violins and bagpipes. Comparing it to the masterpieces of their old albums is not the best thing to do because it will disappoint you, but on its own a lot of songs are pretty good, and nice to sing along with as well. And on top of that, the artwork rocks, got a shirt and a poster, much to my family's delight :p

After Forever went from a gothic metal sound to a more progressive one I think. At first I didn't like it, now I try to focus on the good things, and I like it even more than the old albums.

The only new album that leaves me permanently disappointed is Edguy's Rocket Ride. Their old albums had some sort of own atmosphere, but the new album just doesn't cut it, especially after their masterpiece Hellfire Club which recieved rave reviews.

An artist can never do things right. If they give you more of what you wanted to hear you'll be sad because it's the same thing over again (Dragonforce anyone?). If they release something new you're disappointed because it's different ;)

[F-3582]

Anyone remember Radiohead? After their release of "Kid A" everyone thought WTF???!?!?!! No one had expected such an album from a band like Radiohead. OK, they already did some experimental stuff in "OK Computer" already, but no one could have prepared their fans for the weird sounds "Kid A" delivered. And not just a few of them hoped that Radiohead would go back to the roots in their next album.

Fortunately they didn't ;), although even I have to say that "Amnesiac" was a little too - well - exotic. Some songs took me about seven auditions to recognize their inner beauty ("Like Spinning Plates", for example), but nevertheless Radiohead proved their musical expertise and their creative spirit once again.

Okay, comparing Radiohead to Metallica might be a difficult job, indeed, but I wish for Metallica that they won't give in to the main stream. If they are going to change their style, I would be the last one stopping them.

[Aided Onslaught]

I only defend bands that change their sound, if it's for the better. Not being a true metallica fan, it doesn't piss me off to see them go Nuage (which is just crap all around, why do that to music, it's rap with distortion).

So, let's bring up how In Flames change. Though out all their albums they had a differnt sound, changing, you can still tell it's in flames, but still very dffernt. They kept using differnt melody's but at first it was more of a midevil type sound where as time when on, it was their own little thing almost, what sounded cool, they found them self. Then R2R came out, over all, not a bad album, but filled with a bunch or trash or just nothingness and stuff keyboard stuff. Their next album was even more of this, very little guitar work, and just layers or to break it down nothing. Yes they are differnt, but I woudln't say it's for the best, why did they do it? I don't know, can I guess? Yes, I believe to fit into the pop culture to the best that the media will allow them too.

[industrian]

see, this is what pisses me off with rabid fanboys (not accusing you guys of anything....but almost).

Metallica will NEVER EVER EVER NEVER make more songs like Fight Fire with Fire, Trapped Under Ice, or Damage, Inc. sorry. it will never happen. metallica evolved, they changed. (didnt i already post this same thing somewhere in this thread??)

Evolution is when you go from "Kill 'em All" to "Ride The Lightning." Regression is when you go from ReLoad to St. Anger. Metallica did nothing but go into the studio, knock out a crap album, and expect it to sell.

when St. Anger came out, it had been such a break from load/reload that everyone was saying...ok well maybe they're going to go old school! but they didn't. they kept evolving. everyone was expecting their favorite album, part 2. people were let down by NOT hearing Master of Puppets II, or ...And Justice For All II.

I wasn't disappointed that they hadn't made a sequel to any of their albums. I was just disappointed that they made a totally, and utterly crap album.

I can see the argument though. If Limp Bizkit were to have made St. Anger it would have been "Awesome!" but Metallica are capable of AT LEAST ONE GUITAR SOLO.

that same thing happened with Tool. they take a fairly long time between albums (counting major releases only, 93, 96, 01, 06) to evolve. when their new album came out, people were MAJORLY disappointed! so many people were expecting Lateralus II (their last album, because it was absolutely stunning) that they were blinded by the fact that the new album is probably one of the greatest albums of all time--but in a vastly different way than their other albums.

There was the same response to Manowar's new sound on "Louder than Hell" ... but that album just happened to be freaking awesome so the naysayers had nothing to stand on. The same happened with the Manic Street Preachers after they released "Everything Must Go" which was more pop-orientated than the 100% nihlism of "The Holy Bible" ... but once again, great songs like "A Design For Life", "Kevin Carter" and "Australia" faded the screams of naysayers to a mere whimper. St. Anger however had a different sound and was crap. So it had nothing to stand on.

Metallica is different. live with it. if you don't like their new music, that's fine. no one is forcing you to listen to it. Metallica produced more amazing music than most bands could ever imagine to produce, and now, 25 years after they got their start, they've changed their style and you're complaining about it?? i find it really hard to believe your statement that metallica have purposely declined in quality. WTF???

Here's an article from Transcending The Mundane (http://basementbar.com/DefaultN1.asp):

"You look at Def Leppard, Bon Jovi, Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, and it's a trip to see bands that were big influences on us and not relevant anymore."

-Kirk Hammett, Denver Post interview, 4/4/04

Claims that Metallica have “evolved” also need to be examined in light of what their peers have achieved since 1983. Let’s take a quick look:

King Diamond and Mercyful Fate—Both acts continue to release quality albums to this day, with many fans feeling that 9 was the best Fate release since Don’t Break The Oath. The King and company have never sacrificed any heaviness in their music, which is still intense, complex and rooted firmly in black/thrash metal.

Venom—In 1997, Cronos and Mantas reunited to reform Venom and released Cast In Stone. Its successor, Resurrection was arguably one of the band’s best, with the focus still on raw, primitive and heavy black metal.

Slayer—Slayer is still a giant in the thrash world, and never strayed from the path they etched so permanently with 1986’s Reign in Blood. Featured at Ozzfest after Ozzfest, it is clear that Slayer could have altered their sound long ago to please the Nu-metal market. They never have.

Overkill—2003’s Killbox 13 confirmed Overkill’s dedication to quality thrash metal. Their live show, too, is as ferocious as ever. Despite significant airtime on MTV in the early 90s, Overkill, too, never cashed in to market trends.

Megadeth—There will never be another Rust In Peace (nor a Peace Sells…, for that matter), but Mustaine has stayed true to his formula over the years and has refused to alter his unique vocal style, unlike Hetfield.

Iron Maiden—An immensely popular band, Iron Maiden continues to Up the Irons all these years later, with albums every bit as worthy as the ones they created in their prime. Brave New World and Dance Of Death, as a matter of fact, sound like they could have been the next two albums released after Piece Of Mind.

Bathory—Before his tragic death at age 39, Quorthon was the ultimate example of an extreme metaller who truly had evolved over the years. From the proto-black metal of The Return... to the thrash of Octagon to the epic Viking metal of the Nordland albums, Quorthon was always wandering, experimenting and keeping it f***ing heavy. R.I.P.

Metallica also needs to be evaluated in light of what the best bands in metal today are doing. Those of you who think Metallica “kicks ass” really need to check out groups like Nevermore, Opeth, Nile, Into Eternity, Dimmu Borgir and Children of Bodom. Or, better yet, check out today’s best thrash bands: Testament, Dew-Scented, The Haunted, Darkane, Killswitch Engage, Hypocrisy, Disillusion, Susperia, Carnal Forge, Coroner, Exodus, Scarve, Destruction, Divine Decay, Callenish Circle, Meshuggah, Brainstorm, Cephalic Carnage, Pathos, Strapping Young Lad, etc. Then you’ll get a sense of where Metallica might be today if they still were dedicated to their craft, their art, instead of simply amassing money.

Actually, Metallica would be far ahead of all those groups today if they had remained hungry. Think of what Master Of Puppets might have evolved into 20 years later if the band had continued to push themselves as musicians. It would be something we haven’t even heard yet, most likely. Something powerful, visceral and maybe even life-changing (as so many have said Master was).

But you don’t “evolve” by becoming lazier. Hetfield does little to counter the argument:

“Sure, the arrangements are simpler. It's a reaction to …And Justice For All which was really, really anal. Every little bit was worked out. The arrangement was so orchestrated that it got really stiff, and when we were on tour it got really boring. So we knew we had to move on and The Black Album was pretty much the opposite. I think Load is even more simplistic, in a way. First, we chose riffs that were great, and Lars and I would go jam on them. Then, instead of trying to force one riff with another riff, it was like, 'Let's jam on it,' and we'd see what came out of that.”

I leave you to determine if the riffs on Load were better than riffs like “Blackened” and “The Shortest Straw.” I can tell you that I personally saw Metallica on tour for Justice and there was nothing boring about it. They were still in fine form and the songs sounded huge. Metallica telling us they’ve “grown” while admitting the songs are far simpler is like Bush telling us that it was the right decision to invade Iraq even though zero weapons of mass destruction were found there—it’s not true no matter how many times you say it.

Sadly, someone even casually familiar with the metal underground knows the truth—Metallica hasn’t been artistically relevant in the genre in over 15 years.

And the Master of Profits rolls on. General Admission for St. Anger tour: $77. Metallica Fan Club subscription: $25 - $60. Metallica Babydoll T-shirt: $30. Metallica Floor Mats: $34.99. Lars Signature Series Drum Sticks: $32.00. Metallica Chicks Pink Backpack: $39.95. Metallica & SpongeBob Romper: $19.99. Load Bass Tablature: $19.95. “Cliff ‘Em All” Video: Priceless, because you will never see that band again as long as you live.

Mr. Ulrich, one final self-serving, delusional quote to take us out, please?:

"It's so beating. I can understand now how challenging [St. Anger] was. Compared to a song like ‘Wherever I May Roam,’ it sounds like World War III. It makes The Black Album sound like Bon Jovi or something. I can understand that some of the people into the more straightforward things we've done can be scared [listening to St. Anger]. It's OK to be scared and overwhelmed and challenged."

- Lars Ulrich, Rocky Mountain News, 3/31/04

once you get over your preconceptions over what music/movies/people/anything "should" be--you will enjoy your world a lot more. of course, there is nothing wrong with not liking St. Anger. hell, there is nothing wrong with not liking Master of Puppets. opinions--everyone's got 'em ;)

I go into nothing thinking of what something "should be." If it were up to me every Laibach album would sound like Opus Dei but they evolved steadily, not listening to anyone, just doing s**t on their own. In 1996 they released "Jesus Christ Superstars" - an awesome album, a metal album. Then they released nothing after it. In 2003 they released "WAT", which (apart from vocals) is totally different sounding. It's techno. I didn't care because it sounded fresh, relevant and left me feeling that this album had "something more" and I accepted that evolution because it was a true evolution.

In 2003 Metallica, after a similar gap, released something that I bought, listened to, but did not feel anything whatsoever. Believe me, I wanted to like St. Anger... but it could not warrant a place on my CD collection. Not even next to "Significant Other."

[MT]

Ok, about metallica yet: i'll live with the old albums. kill em all 'till justice for all. I'll be ok. ;)

[hushypushy]

Evolution is when you go from "Kill 'em All" to "Ride The Lightning." Regression is when you go from ReLoad to St. Anger. Metallica did nothing but go into the studio, knock out a crap album, and expect it to sell.

so, since i like "And justice for all" less than Master of Puppets, does that mean they regressed? umm, no. i like St Anger more than ReLoad, a lot more actually. i've said it before, but Reload has 4 good tracks and a bunch more that i can't stand at all. St. Anger actually kept my attention. and what is that about calling it crap? i like St. Anger a lot more than thousands of other albums, so what does that make those albums? uber crap? does that mean i like a crappy album? and calling it crappy is really subjective term--you might think Tool's "Ænima" is crap, but it's my favorite album of all time. well, see the next quote.

I was just disappointed that they made a totally, and utterly crap album.

I can see the argument though. If Limp Bizkit were to have made St. Anger it would have been "Awesome!" but Metallica are capable of AT LEAST ONE GUITAR SOLO.

totally and utterly crap? turn on the tube and watch any music related station. St. Anger is better than every single thing you will hear if you watch MTV for an hour. period. (unless they are showing the new Tool album for some reason... :p) and umm, what's the big deal about guitar solos? we aren't in the 80s anymore, every single song does NOT need to have a meedley meedley section where the LEAD GUITARIST (what an outdated term that is) shows off how fast he can play arpeggios. this is why i hate Yngwie, his music is so boring, same with many other solo artists. holy crap i can play 12,000 notes a minute! yeah, i dont care. i know that Yngwie or Satriani or Vai are some people's favorite guitarists. well guess what, i'd rather listen to Nick Zinner's songs (that's right, from the punk band Yeah Yeah Yeahs) because they are much more creative, catchy, and interesting to hear than Yngwie wailing on his Arpeggios from Hell (if you've ever seen his instructional video you'll know what i mean)--EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE SIMPLE. i'll talk more about that in a minute.

perhaps we will never truely know if Metallica are satisfied with what they are doing these days. that above article puts their change in a very negative light, but omits one very interesting thing. they talk about how their peers havent sold out, havent given into pressure. well neither has metallica! just because they sell out tours and have expensive merch doesn't mean they've sold out. i mean, since when was Metallica doing commercials? putting out gayboy videos on MTV left and right and up and down? getting consistent radio play? doing all the things that bands like LIMP BIZKIT did? (for the record, i really like limp bizkit, especially significant other) Metallica changed, but for whom? in my lifetime, i never saw metallica change into media pets or MTV's little cashcow money whore. i think that Metallica evolved for themselves, as much as people want to deny it. it's sooooo easy to point the finger and say "they are media whores! they just want money!" but in practice, it's hard to fit that model to where they actually are.

furthermore, the article (and you) diss the apparent simplicity of Metallica's newer music and lack of solos. well, continuing on the track of Yeah Yeah Yeahs, they have REALLY simple music (its punk!) but i find their music much more captivating than a lot of music, hell, even music that was discussed in this thread! it's simplistic, and lacking of solos, but it's catchy and interesting. i'd rather see creativity and a musical flow rather than one dude soloing. and frankly, i was getting really bored of Hammet's solos. he didn't have much that was very interesting after the black album, to me anyway. sometimes it feels like they put in solos just for the sake of solos, like "ok, it's been 3/4 of a song already, play some really high notes real fast and we can finish this thing".


I go into nothing thinking of what something "should be."

i wasnt trying to say "you" specifically--but more like the general audience. you have to admit, it happens so often, and definitely did with such a high stature band, Metallica.

in general, it all comes down to opinion. i REALLY was hoping, from the first day the album came out and i brought it home to listen to, and still am hoping to this day, that Metallica would/will release a remastered version of St. Anger with a better producer. every time i think about Metallica's change over the years, i can't help to wonder what the critics would've said if this album was actually well produced and came out with a good clean sound.

even though i enjoyed all of Metallica's albums, i personally believe that they should've called it quits after S&M. Metallica needs to be disbanded. i understand they still want to make music, but they should all just go their seperate ways. Metallica USED to be my favorite band. hmm, maybe it's MY tastes that are changing? since then, i've fallen more in love with bands like Tool or Rage Against the Machine and changed my focus to accept other genres, from Decapitated to Cibo Matto to The White Stripes to Gorillaz to Yeah Yeah Yeahs to a thousand other bands. Metallica are way down on my list, i honestly have not given them a good listen in a while--even their old music.

[MT]

Yeah, S&M would finish perfectly :)

[industrian]

A good tribute to St. Anger (http://www.sinister.com.au/_dloads/ms_stanger/ms_stanger.php#).

:p

Metallica needs to be compared to other metal bands out there today because Metallica constantly refer to themselves, and are referred to as a metal band. There's no point whipping out punk bands here, as they are not relevant to Metallica. Comparisons to Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are.

And it's very easy to see that Metallica changed into money-hungry hypocrites. But it just happens to be 1:45am and I'm too tired to go into details. ;)

Personally I think a live album is the best way to go out. But in the world of heavy metal, there is a "never say die" attitude. Bands would rather keep going (as seen with Black Sabbath after Ozzy, Helloween after the Keepers, the Ripper Priest era and the Blaze Bayley Maiden) than call it quits. They'd rather keep going, even if all they were making was innaccurate, fuzzy, and not-as-good records. Metallica had that attitude after Burton died, because they probably felt that they owed it to him to go out and pay homage to him by making the best stuff they possibly could (and they did.) Then after that was done... what could they do? The answer: they kept going out of fear of giving up. I mean, what else could they do?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but to this day I have only really seen one metal band give up and disband (well, metal bands that I give a s**t about) and that is X-Japan. They had a final live tour, disbanded, then hide died, and X-Japan will never ever come back.

To go into further details about this aspect: metal in general is about self-belief and confidence. Bands like Manowar and most power metal bands seek to cultivate the attitude in the listener to not give a s**t about what other people think and to just do their own thing. This attitude also sets in place the fear of giving up, as that represents weakness. I know Laibach aren't relevant, but they once made the statement (that I hold true now as a personal mantra) that "Only God can subdue Laibach. People and things never can." THAT is the attitude of metal. And that attitude is also responsible for bands producing crap instead of admitting defeat (well not for Laibach anyways. :p)

[Aided Onslaught]

I want to point out how I feel about solo's in general, if it's on guitar or a violin or anything. You don't need them in ever song you write, but what you do need is some form of a lead that is memorable. Not all solo's are fast, in fact I know many band that have riffs in one song with a fast lead that are faster (by far) than a solo is in another one. Solo's are not speed, really it's hard to say what makes a solo, but when you don't do one in a full album when that's what not only your band is known for, but a genre is known for...don't call yourself a metal band onless you put NU in front of it.

Also what one likes, doesn't make it MUSICALLY better because you like it more. I like a lot of screamy stuff (in flames, Dark tranqillity, arch ememy, so on) musically screaming is nothing, but I would rather listen to that than a lot of singing bands. I listen to them for the musical work, if they get ride of that they are nothing. So st. anger with the singing out of key, **** guitar and drum work, is a big NU turn off to me. So pretty much, like it if you want, but understand where it stands.

[Chrono Archangel]

meh, wasnt arsed to read all your long posts whining on metallica. Everyone has their own opinion, deal with it. As for me, any Metallica after Black, isnt worth listening. Invisible Kid must be the worst song ever....

nway's... has anyone heard "the untitled song" Metallica played live in a concert? It's floating around the net, you guys should check it out. Supppose to be one of there new songs. Aniway, first impressions :
- same sound as St.Anger
- song seems to be all over the place....no real structure...
- there's a solo! :p

[Aided Onslaught]

meh, wasnt arsed to read all your long posts whining on metallica. Everyone has their own opinion, deal with it. As for me, any Metallica after Black, isnt worth listening. Invisible Kid must be the worst song ever....

nway's... has anyone heard "the untitled song" Metallica played live in a concert? It's floating around the net, you guys should check it out. Supppose to be one of there new songs. Aniway, first impressions :
- same sound as St.Anger
- song seems to be all over the place....no real structure...
- there's a solo! :p

Agreed, and the solo isn't impressive...I hate songs that make you goes though bull**** just to hear a solo.

[hushypushy]

There's no point whipping out punk bands here, as they are not relevant to Metallica. Comparisons to Iron Maiden and Judas Priest are.

ok, how's this for a comparison: i like more songs from St. Anger than i do from both Maiden and Priest combined. and i'm being honest, that's not even a joke. so what does that say about personal opinion? (rhetorical question)

But in the world of heavy metal, there is a "never say die" attitude.

yeah, and it sucks. look at Korn--good lord, WHY ARE THEY STILL MAKING MUSIC?? they should've stopped after Issues!

man, if metallica had stopped after cliff died...i dunno. weird. i wonder what would've happened if cliff were still alive...(and so do 500 million other people).

i guess the main thing here is that opinion reigns over everything as far as personal opinion. i'm sure that a lot of people (you silly europeans i mean :p) in this thread have much different opinions of what is awesome these days than me. these power metal type bands that you guys are all talking about...it bores me. i like all the metallica albums. some people wont listen to any non-cliff material.

on a similar note, the new song sounds umm...like a St. Anger B-side (like Chrono pointed out). if people didnt like st anger, i doubt they will like this new track. the existence of a solo and a new producer isnt going to change the fact that they still sound the same as they did three years ago.

[MT]

yeah, and it sucks. look at Korn--good lord, WHY ARE THEY STILL MAKING MUSIC??
... to make moniz. like metallica are doing :p

[hushypushy]

yeah, but korn is way worse. ugh, way worse.

one note about metallica, korn, and other bands--their approach is to go into the studio and write music. this surely produces inferior music, you can see the supposed "decline" of Metallica as they became overproduced, same with Korn and about a million other bands.

[Cid Highwind]

yeah, but korn is way worse. ugh, way worse.

Can't get worse than Bon Jovi though :rolleyes:

[hushypushy]

oh, oh yes it can. there are plenty of pop "artists" out there who exist solely for the purpose of making money. nothing else. at least bon jovi has had a shred of credibility to his name at one time or another, and he wasn't (literally) created to make money.

[Cid Highwind]

Well I was more aiming at the fact that whatever they release now comes in the same format as from the Bon Jovi album,

singing - chorus - some more - chorus - guitar solo- chorus x2

The problem is that the quality of their lyrics and the magic of their music has disappeared at the same rate as their long hair. After Keep the Faith These Days was still a good album, though in a different style, and the newer work, especially the singles, are just pop songs with a Bon Jovi sauce. If it wouldn't be Bon Jovi I wonder if it would even make it to the charts.

Worst moment: This left feels wrong, awfully raped classics.

I'd rather see them tour with their old songs than see them head back into the studios again.

[hushypushy]

i'd rather see em just quit :p

[Cid Highwind]

That wouldn't be much of a problem either, I've seen them live already, during the Bounce tour. I was a big fan of theirs, I woke up with their music and listened 4 songs before I went to bed. The problem is that John's voice isn't what it's used to be. Richie still knows how to reach the high notes, his solo albums are great as well.

[industrian]

HOLY F**KIN' SH!T!!!!

http://www.ragnarokfestival.com/

A METAL FESTIVAL... IN SCOTLAND!?!?!?

[Skye]

Talking about good guitarists, Marty Friedman from Megadeth is awesome. As well as Joe Satriani, whom I seen in concert.

[Cid Highwind]

HOLY F**KIN' SH!T!!!!

http://www.ragnarokfestival.com/

A METAL FESTIVAL... IN SCOTLAND!?!?!?
WAAH YOU LUCKY BATARD!!

Hooray for Ramma Gay :D Say hi to the drummer for me, he rocks. Gotta love the expression on his face when he goes all out. (fyi, Gamma Ray and Freedom Call share the same drummer, Daniel Zimmerman)

[industrian]

I got that news whilst checking up on Suidakra's new album (which is a Scottish concept album ;)). If Suidakra are there: I'm there. Gamma Ray and Dream Evil just make it worth the £35 fare. :D

Hopefully, and I'm praying to most known Gods here, that the unannounced band will be Manowar or at least Dragonforce. ^_^

BTW: Laibach also have an album in the works. If they come to Scotland again I'll be a very happy man.

[hushypushy]

Hooray for Ramma Gay :D

freudian slip?

[Aided Onslaught]

Hooray for Ramma Gay :D

Haha, the Edguy book, I laughed so hard when I read that.

[Cid Highwind]

About Consign to Oblivion:

I can listen to that album 4 times a night without getting bored. Personally I like Dance of Fate and Mother of Light the best.

Dance of Fate is a great song to get into the album, a good pace, great orchestrated parts, and I love the part where she sings "Everything has a reason for its happening", because of the way they use the instruments at that part.

Mother of Light is a great song as well, fast paced, aggressive and a great part where they are screaming and singing simulaniously. I can't help but grunting along at that point, I have to hear that one live one day.

Did you buy the version that comes with a bonus DVD? Gotta love how the dog starts crying as soon as Simone started singing :p

[MT]

WAAH YOU LUCKY BATARD!!
Look who says that, you dutchs get awesome band concerts every week :p

[Cid Highwind]

Not during the summer season, it's all festivals right now, with the exception of Epica last sunday, again I wasn't able to go :( This weekend it will be Graspop Metal Meeting in Belgium, I know Carnage is going to be there (for those who remember him), but again no metal for me this weekend.

[Aided Onslaught]

Mother of Light is a great song as well, fast paced, aggressive and a great part where they are screaming and singing simulaniously. I can't help but grunting along at that point, I have to hear that one live one day.

Did you buy the version that comes with a bonus DVD? Gotta love how the dog starts crying as soon as Simone started singing :p

Mother of light is my favorite too, but I think I said that in another topic when you ask me about buying it.

A dvd....A DVD?!?! Damn it...I hate that, music stores around here suck ass.

[industrian]

Right now I've just ordered enough CDs to kill my mailman. :D Then again, you have a license to go crazy when you get £940 ;).

Albums I've ordered:

Tuatha De Danann: The Delirium Has Just Began and Tingaralatingadun (try saying that five times quickly :p)

Arch Enemy: Anthems of Rebellion, Wages of Sin, Burning Bridges and Dead Eyes See No Future

Graveworm: As the Angels Reach the Beauty, Engraved in Black and Scourge of Malice

Viperine: The Predator Awakens

Nirvana: Nevermind (I refused to buy that CD until now. £3, enough said.)

Extreme: Pornograffiti (I've not listened to this album for years. I miss it.)

[hushypushy]

you need to get some Tool :p

[industrian]

you need to get some Tool :p

Maybe next month. ;)

[Cid Highwind]

Have the albums arived already?

I just got myself Sonata's live DVD, For the Sake of Revenge, a couple of days ago.

How I love this one, it comes with a CD as well which has got most of the tracks of the dvd on it. Sounds quality is great, better than at gigs cause you can actually hear the guitars, which strangely enough is a somewhat of a requirement for metal.

Vocals are very good on this one, at least as good as on the Tavastia gig. If you want a nice impression about that, do a video.google.com search. Jani tries to pull off too much during his guitarsolo's, ending up with a raped Fullmoon solo, a darn shame. On the other hand, the Victoria's Secret solo is the best I've heard so far. The way he kicks off the guitar solo is AWESOME :D

Only thing left me to know is whether the title of this dvd is about the english sake, or the japanese one :p

[Chrono Archangel]

http://www.bwbk6pack.com/artists.html

ohh yeah, just got my ticket for Testament. Will probably get one for Helloween too :guitar:

And i already have my ticket for Blind Guardian with Leaves Eyes in November.
This is great. Some rumors are going around of Kalmah possibly coming to Montreal...../me crosses fingers

[MT]

Tuatha De Danann: The Delirium Has Just Began and Tingaralatingadun (try saying that five times quickly
its a brazilian band?

[Aided Onslaught]

Have the albums arived already?

I just got myself Sonata's live DVD, For the Sake of Revenge, a couple of days ago.

How I love this one, it comes with a CD as well which has got most of the tracks of the dvd on it. Sounds quality is great, better than at gigs cause you can actually hear the guitars, which strangely enough is a somewhat of a requirement for metal.

Vocals are very good on this one, at least as good as on the Tavastia gig. If you want a nice impression about that, do a video.google.com search. Jani tries to pull off too much during his guitarsolo's, ending up with a raped Fullmoon solo, a darn shame. On the other hand, the Victoria's Secret solo is the best I've heard so far. The way he kicks off the guitar solo is AWESOME :D

Only thing left me to know is whether the title of this dvd is about the english sake, or the japanese one :p

I started to listen to the cd a little bit ago, and I too am very impressed. The vocals are good, but the backing vocals are rather meh. The guitars are very well mic'ed, has a very full, and more pleasing sound than studio in a way. I need to listen to it more thought to judge the proformance.

[industrian]

its a brazilian band?

Yeah. They're worth checking out. :)

http://www.tuathadedanann.com.br/

[Cid Highwind]

I started to listen to the cd a little bit ago, and I too am very impressed. The vocals are good, but the backing vocals are rather meh. The guitars are very well mic'ed, has a very full, and more pleasing sound than studio in a way. I need to listen to it more thought to judge the proformance.
Backing vocals... well they could've run it off a tape like with the Songs of Silence album, but I prefer hearing it the way it's done. If you want to hear strange backing vocals from their part take a look at the video I made of Wolf and Raven some time ago, Jani (guitars) almost reaches ZP's notes (dragonforce).

[hushypushy]

to change the topic a little, i just wanted to mention something i got today that i was happy about...i got the Best Buy edition of Rammstein's "Rosenrot". it comes in a cool fold out digipack, and it has a DVD with 3 live songs (reise reise, mein teil, sonne). i wish it had more songs, but oh well. i went to my gf's house and watched it...one thing that's neat is that it's anamorphic! so we watched it on her 52" Sony HDTV and surround sound :guitar:

i've always wondered why Rammstein gives special treatment to Best Buy..there were special versions of Sehnsucht and Mutter available as Best Buy specials as well.

[Cid Highwind]

Sounds like an awesome package Hushy!

Had to do a google search on what Anamorphic is, seems like it means it has got more vertical lines.

Digipack >> normal case

[hushypushy]

the great part is that it was the exact same price as the normal Rosenrot. the regular one was $12.99, and so was this one :p i don't know why anyone would get the regular one...

you'll usually see anamorphic as "enhanced for widescreen TVs", which i didn't really understand until i used a widescreen TV.

"normal" widescreen films (which are quickly becoming the exception rather than the norm) are a regular 720x480 (NTSC) picture with some sort of black bars on the top and the bottom. so when you view it on a 4x3 TV, it looks regular, it just sits there.

but when widescreen TVs came out, there was a problem. to keep the aspect ratio and have it fit the screen, you have to zoom in, which makes it pretty ugly. so they created a new format. it's still the same 720x480 picture, but instead of letterboxing it, they use those extra lines of resolution to put picture there. so the "raw" image looks really goofy, because it's stretched vertically. when you put it in a widescreen TV, it pulls the picture across, and poof, perfectly fits the widescreen and looks nice. and on a 4x3 TV, instead of pulling it left to right, it just compresses it up and down. so both sides win! better resolution on a 4x3 AND 16x9. technology rocks.

[industrian]

I got the same special edition of Rosenrot when it came out. It was the same price as the standard (for some weird reason) so I got it.

The live version of Mein Teil is awesome. Poor Flake. ;)

[hushypushy]

did you get it at best buy? do you even have best buy in scotland? i dont have the wrapper anymore, but it said some crap about "best buy exclusive" or some crap.

on the same note, do you have the best buy/special edition of Mutter? i bought Mutter when it first came out, but not at best buy, and when i found out there was another version i got pissed. actually, to this day, i've never physically seen that special edition.

[industrian]

did you get it at best buy? do you even have best buy in scotland? i dont have the wrapper anymore, but it said some crap about "best buy exclusive" or some crap.

HMV. ;)

on the same note, do you have the best buy/special edition of Mutter? i bought Mutter when it first came out, but not at best buy, and when i found out there was another version i got pissed. actually, to this day, i've never physically seen that special edition.

Do you mean the red-cover version that comes with the bonus track "Hallelujah"? That's the Japanese version I think.

BTW: Whilst we're on the topic of Rosenrot ... that Spanish song is the worst I've heard in a long time.

[hushypushy]

well, i googled it and..

some random website says so and herzeleid.com says: (http://herzeleid.com/en/news/*/archive/2001-04) (and i think they are quoting someone else)

Your purchase of Mutter will rock even harder with the inclusion of an enhanced CD exclusive to Best Buy and BestBuy.com. With your purchase, you'll also get an additional CD attached to the Mutter jewel case with the bonus track "Helleluja" and the music video of "Sonne," a cool track on Mutter.

BUT they have better info in their FAQ:

What different versions are there?

There were several editions of Mutter made.

A limited edition digipack was sold in Europe and imported by some other countries. A limited edition with a second CD with "Hallelujah" and the video for "Sonne" was sold at BestBuy stores in the United States. The Japanese edition also has "Hallelujah" as a hidden song after 2 minutes of silence on the last track.

Along with these, is the standard edition with the regular 11 tracks and nothing "special".

this red cover version you speak of (http://www.discogs.com/release/409678) seems to be a tour version with live tracks.

concerning your last point, i think that song is actually pretty cool, i don't think it's meant to be serious, the lyrics seem like a joke to me (and so do all the other parts of the song). i actually think Rosenrot is by far their worst album. it just doesn't pack enough "oomph".

have you heard the Meshuggah remix of Benzin? it destroys the original one, it's so badass.

[industrian]

Ahhh, Herzeleid.com. I used to be a regular at their forums. :D I then did an uber-n00b move and never went back. Kudos to the guy who made the site, he eventually was hired to make Rammstein's official stuff.

concerning your last point, i think that song is actually pretty cool, i don't think it's meant to be serious, the lyrics seem like a joke to me (and so do all the other parts of the song). i actually think Rosenrot is by far their worst album. it just doesn't pack enough "oomph".

The intro just puts me off. Just like the English lyrics on the ballad Stirb Nicht Vor Mir. I agree with you though: Rosenrot is waaaay off the quality of Sehnsucht, Mutter and Reise, Reise. Mann Gegen Mann remains my "angry-at-the-gym" anthem... gay lyrics or not. ;)

[hushypushy]

heh, i always treated that track like a complete joke so not really a big deal to me. i thought my spanish speaking friends would think it was horrific, but to my surprise they actually enjoy it! i guess they get the humor of it.

i love Benzin and Mann Gegen Mann...but other than that, the album is meh. i mean, i'll still listen to it all the way through, but i am really hoping they pick it up for the next album.

the Mann Gegen Mann video kicks ass though...man, all the Rammstein videos kick ass. Rammstein always has the most kickass music videos. Tool and Rammstein are definitely my favorite bands as far as music videos.

[industrian]

heh, i always treated that track like a complete joke so not really a big deal to me. i thought my spanish speaking friends would think it was horrific, but to my surprise they actually enjoy it! i guess they get the humor of it.

Well if you know what the lyrics mean, I never think it was meant to be taken seriously. ;) A bit like Bück Dich. :D

i love Benzin and Mann Gegen Mann...but other than that, the album is meh. i mean, i'll still listen to it all the way through, but i am really hoping they pick it up for the next album.

"Spring" is my favourite track on it. The song has an undeniable atmosphere from beginning to end. Still nothing compared to Reise Reise though. "Moskau" remains my favourite Rammstein song followed by "Ohne Dich."

the Mann Gegen Mann video kicks ass though...man, all the Rammstein videos kick ass. Rammstein always has the most kickass music videos. Tool and Rammstein are definitely my favorite bands as far as music videos.

Till looks incredibly ... "chunky" ... on that video. :D

[hushypushy]

speaking of Moskau, i really wish they had gotten the girls from Tatu, that would've been rad. too bad they didn't.

i can't pick a favorite rammstein song, there are so many kickass tunes...i will say though that lately i have been listening to Herzeleid a lot

[industrian]

speaking of Moskau, i really wish they had gotten the girls from Tatu, that would've been rad. too bad they didn't.

I remember that rumour. I also remember Tatu's appearance on the Frank Skinner Show (a late night talk show in the UK) ... they were very "liberal" to say the least. :D

i can't pick a favorite rammstein song, there are so many kickass tunes...i will say though that lately i have been listening to Herzeleid a lot

Moskau and Seemann are my favourite Rammstein songs. The former is just a piledriver of a song from start to end. In 2002/3 I used to listen to the Live Aus Berlin version of Seemann before going to bed each night. It's such a great song. Alter Mann, Links 234, Zwitter, Adios, Mein Teil, Ohne Dich and Amour are my other favourites, but pretty much every Rammstein song is listenable.

[hushypushy]

dang, "listenable", that's harsh. that's how i feel about Rosenrot tracks 3 to the end...but every album before that, pretty much every song is classic (to me).

i used to think Reise Reise was horrible except for Mein Teil (which i first heard on the RE2 OST) but i put the CD in my car and the more i heard it, the more i liked it....i listened to it over again today and i really love it. Morgenstern and Stein Um Stein are classic, i really love when Till screams.

by the way, have you seen XXX? that vin diesel movie? i saw it in theaters for some reason, and i was SOOOOO excited when they show up at the Rammstein show. heh.

[industrian]

i used to think Reise Reise was horrible except for Mein Teil (which i first heard on the RE2 OST) but i put the CD in my car and the more i heard it, the more i liked it....

It took me over a month to get used to it. It didn't have the instant appeal of Mutter, but the more I listened the better it got. It has no bad songs.

i really love when Till screams.

STEEEEEEEEEINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!

by the way, have you seen XXX? that vin diesel movie? i saw it in theaters for some reason, and i was SOOOOO excited when they show up at the Rammstein show. heh.

I've still to see it. :p But I think they reference the movie in the "Feuer Frei!" video.

[hushypushy]

yeah, i think they do. last time i saw the Feuer Frei video in a sober state was a loooooong time ago (and i saw XXX before that) so i can't really tell ya for sure though. to make matters worse, my Lichtspielhaus DVD is at my home (as opposed to my parents', where i am now).

i actually thought XXX wasn't too bad of a movie....Rammstein helped out a lot :p

my favorite rammstein video: Ich Will. although...Keine Lust and Mann Gegen Mann are pretty badass too. something about fat and/or naked german dudes...

[industrian]

my favorite rammstein video: Ich Will. although...Keine Lust and Mann Gegen Mann are pretty badass too.

Ohne Dich and Sonne FTW. ;)

something about fat and/or naked german dudes...

I'm sure there's plenty of websites to help you with that kind of interest. ;) :p

[MT]

Hey, me and my buddies started a band (again) :)

[hushypushy]

....and!?! any pics, demo songs, the name, genre, anythign?? what a tease :p

[Cid Highwind]

Yeah, that would be interesting :)

A couple of my friends had a small show with their band a week ago, great opportunity to get hammered and have some fun. They were the first to play, the second band made noise, plain and simple. The third band rocked, had 2 hot chicks in it dressed up in these tiny white dresses, if lighting were better I would've been able to sneak in a lot of panty shots :p

http://www.musicfrom.nl/rsimage.php/bands/fotos/9590.jpg?x=300&y=300&m=3

Damn they looked fine, and the front chick even did some grunts I think, definately a bangable band :evil:

www.scanyourmind.com : They have a song for download, in case you're interested.

Too bad the band of a those friends of mine aren't looking for a people to do grunts/screams, they mainly play covers of songs like Metallica's and Rage. I suggested to do Graveworm, music shouldn't be that difficult, vocals would be taken care of. I don't really feel like going with a band I hardly know, but maybe I'll find one later. I can't play instruments, so that's a let down as well.

Anyway Mire, I'm looking forward to hearing more from your band :)

[MT]

Actually we have a song, still under construction, called "B!tch Symphony". I can record and upload it. Ah, our influences are Pantera, Angra, Dr. Sin and Helloween (yeah, a lot of different styles).

Though we had a problem last night with our bassist involved. The guitarrist came to me and said "hey rod, do want to learn bass?". I was like "OMG YES". Let's see what we will solve today.

[Cid Highwind]

TWO WORDS: HOLY MOSES oO (http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-3109746142065542039&q=dragonforce)

Dragonforce live, and hear those drums, it's even ****ing faster than I've ever heard, it's definately an inhuman rampage. I'm already looking forward to their gigs next year, they're doing Holland :guitar: :guitar:

Hehe, off key, out of sync... who cares? :p

[industrian]

Excuse the thread revival, but good news:

I ordered my ticket for the Ragnarok Festival! Mainly to see SuidAkrA of course, as they kick ass, but getting to see bands like Gamma Ray, Dream Evil and Kalmah seems like a good deal for £35. Getting my ass from Glasgow to Perth will be another matter though... you see us Scots may be Europeans, but we don't have the transport system that you guys do.

And just incase anyone forgot...

http://www.ragnarokfestival.com/

And BTW, SuidAkrA have a new album coming out (strangely on the same day as the PS3.) They have a studio video of a new song, "Forth-Clyde", on their MySpace site:

http://www.myspace.com/suidakra

The future is f**king metal!!

[Chrono Archangel]

I'd go just for Kalmah >_<
Damm I wish they could tour North America

[industrian]

I remember you recommending them a while back. I've not listened to a lot of them though.

[Cid Highwind]

It's better to revive this thread every once in a while instead of having a new one all the time, I'll be doing the same once the concert season kicks in again.

I will have to miss out on the first one though: Freedom Call and Y&T on october 7th :( Got a birthday I must attend to.

At least you get to see 1/5th of Freedom Call Industrian :D I really hope you'll enjoy the gig. Ramma Gay FTW!

[ArchIBaLD]

I'd go just for Kalmah >_<
Damm I wish they could tour North America

I wish any band would come here. any band. metallica was here 3 years ago (a total disaster.. a f***ing disaster) and thats about covers it.


:cuss2:

[industrian]

I wish any band would come here. any band. metallica was here 3 years ago (a total disaster.. a f***ing disaster) and thats about covers it.


:cuss2:

Get Bush to phone some American bands. From what I've heard it worked the last time with Clinton and the Chillis. :D

[hushypushy]

hehe i'm seeing Tool on sunday---should be exciting.

and i found out that Dying Fetus, Cannibal Corpse, and Necrophagist are coming to SF---holy crap that's gonna be awesome, 3 out of my 4 favorite death metal bands in one show.

[Cid Highwind]

Here we'll be getting the Unholy Alliance consisting of Slayer, Children of Bodom, In Flames and Thine Eyes Bleed, and it sounds very tempting. I can't wait to get myself a sore neck again at a gig, last one's been in May. Yeah... I'm spoiled :(

[ArchIBaLD]

Get Bush to phone some American bands. From what I've heard it worked the last time with Clinton and the Chillis. :D


well haha.. but still.. i would kill for a blind guardian concert. or SOAD.. please :p

[Chrono Archangel]

hehehe, my Blind Guardian ticket is right next to me :) can't wait

[ArchIBaLD]

you're kidding right?

[Chrono Archangel]

Even though this is a **** webcam...you can make out the name? :p

[industrian]

I'd make a "Bland Guardian" joke here, but nah. :p

I hope to hell Laibach tour over here like they did for their Anthems Tour. If not, I guess I'll see if they're playing in the Netherlands and pay Cid a visit as well. :)

[hushypushy]

that reminds me, Europe has some cool looking tickets. i'm used to the exact same style, same shape, same size of american Ticketmaster tickets (and occasionally variants that look pretty much the same), but i was shown some tickets from a bunch of Scottish shows...all different shapes and colors! hardly any two shows were alike. pretty interesting, the difference that is.

[industrian]

that reminds me, Europe has some cool looking tickets. i'm used to the exact same style, same shape, same size of american Ticketmaster tickets (and occasionally variants that look pretty much the same), but i was shown some tickets from a bunch of Scottish shows...all different shapes and colors! hardly any two shows were alike. pretty interesting, the difference that is.

http://www.rpgdesign.com/Picture_102.jpg

A Logitek Crapcam picture of my ticket for Laibach 1.5 years ago (picture also taken back then). Man, I remember that gig. Truely life-affirming.

[hushypushy]

yeah, i've seen pics that look just like that. probably from the same venue, it says Glasgow something...

[ArchIBaLD]

just wondering, how much do the blind guardian tickets cost?

[industrian]

yeah, i've seen pics that look just like that. probably from the same venue, it says Glasgow something...

The venue was the Glasgow QMU (Queen Margaret Union). Aka: the place with the overzealous frisking. :D

[darth sephiroth]

Hmm, ah yes i remember that thing, everyone around me managed to get a hold of a ticked for themselves but i wasn't fast enough :(

[hushypushy]

The venue was the Glasgow QMU (Queen Margaret Union). Aka: the place with the overzealous frisking. :D

man the frisking here is great. they just tap your pockets and your armpits looking for a gun and that's it. gets you through the door in 2 seconds :)

[industrian]

man the frisking here is great. they just tap your pockets and your armpits looking for a gun and that's it. gets you through the door in 2 seconds :)

I got put through the full procedure. Maybe it's because of Laibach's history, (but I doubt that, those days are gone) or probably because I look pretty shady, not sure. :rolleyes:

[hushypushy]

what do they check for over there? here, it's pretty much just a gun. they dont care about anything else, to my knowledge.

[industrian]

what do they check for over there? here, it's pretty much just a gun. they dont care about anything else, to my knowledge.

Guns, clubs, knifes, and anything that can be used as a stabbing weapon (which to a Glaswegian is pretty much everything.)

[Chrono Archangel]

Alright, resurrecting this thread :p

I've missed Children of Bodom and Amon Amarth twice last year.... but not this time!!
I just bought my ticket today, they'll be in town on december 18th. Which is again a stupid Monday...but o well.

Four bands in all : CoB, Amon Amarth, Sanctity and Gojira :)
Cant wait \m/

[Citobor]

Are Queens of the Stone Age and Incubus a metal band?
They have good music but bad lyrics/vocalist. I just thought that is what Metalheads listen too.

[JKKDARK]

Are Queens of the Stone Age and Incubus a metal band?
... you are joking, right? :dead:

[Mako Eyes]

I bought Luca Turilli's The Infinite Wonders of Creation the other day. It's quite good, but it's no King of the Nordic Twilight. It also came with a Luca Turilli's Dreamquest bonus disc: the Virus single. I thought it wasn't bad.

Rhapsody (now Rhapsody of Fire)'s newest album was released on the 25th, it isn't here yet but I managed to reserve one of the three copies that the local CDplus ordered. I can't wait for it, honestly. Anyone have it?

EDIT: By the way, did anyone ever pick up Blind Guardian's newest album, A Twist in the Myth? It's one damn amazing piece of work, I highly recommend it.

[Citobor]

... you are joking, right? :dead:

Is that a no? I'm sorry I just assumed guitar and yelling is what MetalHeads listen to.

[Mako Eyes]

Is that a no? I'm sorry I just assumed guitar and yelling is what MetalHeads listen to.

O RLY? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphonic_metal)

Kindly do your homework, good sir, before making blind assumptions.

[deamonhunter]

Is that a no? I'm sorry I just assumed guitar and yelling is what MetalHeads listen to.


another misunderstanding and another newbie to the genre screaming and guitars u poor thing

[Citobor]

so there is no screaming? then what is it exactly? then can you tell me of a really really good song that represent what metalheads listen to?

[D.D.]

i think ill be joining this group soon enough.

[Boltzmann]

Here's an awesome clip from a while ago: Monster Magnet - Unbroken (Hotel Baby) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjYy8MLj-FA). I just love this band (look for the live version of "Monolithic" and you'll see that even their concerts rock).

And I hate rap stuff too, but the Star Wars Gangsta Rap Special Edition (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWVWcrPqozM) is too funny to miss ;)

[Citobor]

Here's an awesome clip from a while ago: Monster Magnet - Unbroken (Hotel Baby) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjYy8MLj-FA). I just love this band (look for the live version of "Monolithic" and you'll see that even their concerts rock).

If this is what Metal heads listen too, then it is the same as rap. Songs about slutty women, sex, drugs and alcohol, not to mention bad lyrics. What about the Music man? Nothing beats an awesome guitar solo and being able to predict the beats and melody.

[JKKDARK]

so there is no screaming? then what is it exactly? then can you tell me of a really really good song that represent what metalheads listen to?
for me, any glam/hair metal song.

[Boltzmann]

If this is what Metal heads listen too, then it is the same as rap. Songs about slutty women, sex, drugs and alcohol, not to mention bad lyrics. What about the Music man? Nothing beats an awesome guitar solo and being able to predict the beats and melody.

Sorry, but I posted that stuff because of the video, not because it's what "metal heads" listen too [sic]. Monster Magnet is industrial metal, not heavy metal (and they're not like rap, because their songs are quite psychedelic, in fact).

If you want true Heavy Metal, look no further than Iron Maiden. You should do some reading, by the way. Try here first: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_Metal

Of course there're other kinds of metal (death, trash, speed, power...). You can look up on google for more info on these. I can't offer much info about these other genres, because I'm mainly into heavy metal stuff.

BTW, one my favorites heavy metal songs is "Paranoid", from Black Sabbath. Check it out.

[Citobor]

So incubus and Queens of the Stone Age is just a rock band.... Thanks all the same ppl.

[hushypushy]

different genres. you can't really call anything simply "rock" or "metal" anymore. QOTSA is stoner rock; incubus is probably alternative.

[Cid Highwind]

Alright, resurrecting this thread :p

I've missed Children of Bodom and Amon Amarth twice last year.... but not this time!!
I just bought my ticket today, they'll be in town on december 18th. Which is again a stupid Monday...but o well.

Four bands in all : CoB, Amon Amarth, Sanctity and Gojira :)
Cant wait \m/

Nice man, I wish I could go :D Enjoy!

so there is no screaming? then what is it exactly? then can you tell me of a really really good song that represent what metalheads listen to?
>shameless plug<

Well for starters you could read the thread and click a link here and there. Industrian is hosting quite a few videos I made at concerts that will prove metal is far more than just screaming and guitars, though some bands do fit the image you have. Mostly the subgenre they call 'Nu-Metal', however Heavy- , Power-, and Symphonic metal are completely different, mostly being based on melody and having clean vocals.

If this is what Metal heads listen too, then it is the same as rap. Songs about slutty women, sex, drugs and alcohol, not to mention bad lyrics. What about the Music man? Nothing beats an awesome guitar solo and being able to predict the beats and melody.
Of course there are bands like that, it all started with Sex Drugs and Rock 'n Roll didn't it? ;)

Keep in mind there's far more though, some metalbands got lyrics on the border of poetry.

Here are some video links:
Freedom Call - Land of the Light (http://www.rpgdesign.com/cid/Freedom%20Call%20-%20Land%20of%20the%20Light.rar), very cheerful stuff, some call it cheesy, some find it the best band in the world.
Sonata Arctica - Tallulah (http://www.rpgdesign.com/cid/SonataArctica-Tallulah-11-05-2006.rar), a very nice ballad, great vocals and pretty good lyrics, like they always have.
Sonata Arctica - The Medley (http://www.rpgdesign.com/cid/SonataArctica28-04-2006.rar), consists out of several Sonata Arctica songs, if you want to see solo's, look no further, or click the next link, cause Dragonforce has songs that take 8 minutes with 4 minutes solo :p

Dragonforce - Fury of the Storm (http://www.rpgdesign.com/cid/Dragonforce%2005-03-2006Fury.rar) Amazing solo man.

Time for some enlightenment :)

[hushypushy]

hahaha, sonata artica and dragonforce, way to go on those choices :p

metal means different things to everyone. the bands that you europeans like is nothing like what i listen to, so whatever.

Lately i've been really getting into Isis...they are pretty great.

[Aided Onslaught]

I can't believe so many still think metal is just screaming and simple guitars that could pass as rap bass lines. I also can't believe how people decide what kind of music is by lyrical content. Who cares what they write about, listen to the music (no that's not called the "beat" of the song, morons). What's also great, and this will be the last one for now. The people who think this way are the first to judge something they never heard before for as being crap.

I also picked up the new Blind Guardian. It is really good, but it is a step down from Night at the opera. To a point that's good, but I still like to hear all the differnt things going on. Still has a really great songs.

[Cid Highwind]

hahaha, sonata artica and dragonforce, way to go on those choices :p

metal means different things to everyone. the bands that you europeans like is nothing like what i listen to, so whatever.

Lately i've been really getting into Isis...they are pretty great.

lol yeah they're kinda on the other side of the spectrum, and I have to admit Dragonforce has got way too cheesy crapass lyrics, but their music rocks :p

I could've linked him to some Graveworm, but I doubt he'd appreciate it, it would probably just confirm his feelings hehe.

But it's a fact Sonata has got some pretty good lyrics overall, no fairies and hobbits involved. But you're right, metal means something else to every single person.

Only five hours left till the Blind Guardian gig :D

[Mako Eyes]

I also picked up the new Blind Guardian. It is really good, but it is a step down from Night at the opera. To a point that's good, but I still like to hear all the differnt things going on. Still has a really great songs.
Yea, I was expecting something along the lines of A Night at the Opera as well. The Fly single threw me off, it sort of had that feel. I was wrong though, this album reminds me a lot of Imaginations from the Other Side; more metal-sounding. Of course, that isn't a bad thing at all. I'm actually happy as long as we don't see another Follow the Blind.

Only five hours left till the Blind Guardian gig :D
Man what I would give to see that . . . CURSE THIS ISOLATE ISLAND PROVINCE ON WHICH I LIVE!

I was considering flying to Ontario to see them, but that would put a $1200 crater in my wallet. Being a university student, this could not be done.

That aside, I'm curious. Are there any Machinae Supremacy (http://www.machinaesupremacy.com) fans here?

[Aided Onslaught]

Just as long as bands don't pull a "in flames" or better known aroundt he world, a metallica. Just as long as you aim to make music and not something "heavy" and make that your only goal, should be okay, keep those solos and melodys!

[hushypushy]

I can't believe so many still think metal is just screaming and simple guitars that could pass as rap bass lines.

when i went to see Tool, the opener was Isis. they are pretty badass--check em out if you have a chance. the vocalist has a low, throaty growl which (IMO) is incredibly badass. but after the show, on the tool forum, everyone was bashing that guy, saying that they can't believe that people still resort to "immature" screams instead of singing.

that's the foundation of metal! i sighed, disgusted, as i went back to Gardenian, Opeth, Dying Fetus, Cannibal Corpse, Necrophagist, Death, Decapitated, Marduk, and the other crapload of metal bands that i love...:mad:

metal will never die!

[Chrono Archangel]

once metal, always metal :)

I don't see myself getting sick of listening to it. There's a metal genre for every mood. I've been listening to some good old Megadeth lately.

I also looked up Gojira and damm I like that band. You guys should check there latest album "From Mars to Sirius". I liked every single song on the first listen, which is not something alot of bands can pull off.

[hushypushy]

alright, cool, i'll definitely check it out. looks like others are giving it rave reviews too.

[Aided Onslaught]

when i went to see Tool, the opener was Isis. they are pretty badass--check em out if you have a chance. the vocalist has a low, throaty growl which (IMO) is incredibly badass. but after the show, on the tool forum, everyone was bashing that guy, saying that they can't believe that people still resort to "immature" screams instead of singing.

that's the foundation of metal! i sighed, disgusted, as i went back to Gardenian, Opeth, Dying Fetus, Cannibal Corpse, Necrophagist, Death, Decapitated, Marduk, and the other crapload of metal bands that i love...:mad:

metal will never die!

I like more mid range vocals when they "scream". I don't like the really low I'm satan stuff and I can only take so much of the "someone cut off me balls" cradle of filth stuff. Anywho...

To be honest "immature" doesn't work there. You see since the vocalist isn't hitting any notes (this works for rap as well) it's not musical at all. There for it can't be mature or imature. As I say, I'd rather hear a thousands screams of people dying than one person who can't sing atempt to.

Side note: Isn't it funny how people feel metal is all screaming when it started with some of the best singers around till this day? Dio, priest, hell even though you can't understand him ozzy still has an okay voice.

[Cid Highwind]

Nothing wrong with a scream or growl every now and then, but it has to be done properly and in the right song. Use it with care :p There's more than just singing and sometimes a well placed growl can really enhance a song to set the mood.

I also think that metal has got the best singers today, when you listen to the radio and you hear all these whiney voices of those popstars it just makes my neckskin crawl... Maroon 5 anyone?

The Guardian gig.... man it ROCKED :D They started the same as on the live album with Into the Storm, which kinda disappointed me because of his vocals. He sounded really tired and dropped all the high notes for a lower line. I've been spoiled by their live album, I know, so was kinda prepared to hear lesser vocals. Actually, they played all the songs from their live album, except for Majesty and a few others, they only played two songs of their new album which were okay, but not as good as others.

They also played 'And then there was Silence', man that song is freaking awesome, and long. I also managed to record 2 songs: After Nightfall and Time stands still at the Iron Hill. Quality is as usual, but unfortunately we switched ISP and I don't think I have enough webspace anymore, so I gotta check on it, and perhaps I should inform Industrian about it.

I think we went kinda nuts last night after the gig... Walking around in the parking lot screaming 'VALHALLAAAH, DELIVERANCE' and the rest of the chorus for 5 minutes straight. Then as we drove out of it hanging out of the window continuing the chorus, and then suddenly seeing someone give us the horns through their window out of their car, which was driving behind us :p Yeah we enjoyed ourselves.

On top of that, when we came back at McD we got offered all they had left because they were closing. Free burgers FTW :D I'm still feeling stuffed... 1 Chicken Mythic, a Big Mac, two Hamburgers, a couple of bitterballs (don't think you guys know those), a sundae and medium fries is quite a lot, even if you split it over a meal and midnight snack :p

Could've been worse... one friend had a Big Mac, 3 Quarter pounders and god knows what more oO I wonder if he's still alive.

[Chrono Archangel]

sweet, I can't wait to see them. November 29th is still far :(
I havent listened to the new album so at least ill have to time to do that before the show

[Cid Highwind]

Well here they played something with 'Fly' in it, and another one, that's all, perhaps you should look up a setlist to see which songs you need to practice :p

Oh and I found out Hammerfall will be here the 24th of January, let's hope there will be a less lame audience this time.

[Mako Eyes]

Nothing wrong with a scream or growl every now and then, but it has to be done properly and in the right song. Use it with care :p There's more than just singing and sometimes a well placed growl can really enhance a song to set the mood.
You're telling me. Opeth for the frikken massive win!

The Guardian gig.... man it ROCKED :D They started the same as on the live album with Into the Storm, which kinda disappointed me because of his vocals. He sounded really tired and dropped all the high notes for a lower line. I've been spoiled by their live album, I know, so was kinda prepared to hear lesser vocals. Actually, they played all the songs from their live album, except for Majesty and a few others, they only played two songs of their new album which were okay, but not as good as others.

They also played 'And then there was Silence', man that song is freaking awesome, and long. I also managed to record 2 songs: After Nightfall and Time stands still at the Iron Hill. Quality is as usual, but unfortunately we switched ISP and I don't think I have enough webspace anymore, so I gotta check on it, and perhaps I should inform Industrian about it.

I think we went kinda nuts last night after the gig... Walking around in the parking lot screaming 'VALHALLAAAH, DELIVERANCE' and the rest of the chorus for 5 minutes straight. Then as we drove out of it hanging out of the window continuing the chorus, and then suddenly seeing someone give us the horns through their window out of their car, which was driving behind us :p Yeah we enjoyed ourselves. .
Oh dude, you're making me cry :( . *sigh* if only I had the moneys...

[Chrono Archangel]

haha the older stuff I know more :p

on another note, Rhapsody should be touring again soon... with the new album out :D

[Aided Onslaught]

Man, I would love to hear and then there was silence live, I always listen to the the full way through, I Love it so much. That's awesome that you had a great time, I hope soon my girlfriend and I will be able to go see them, but with all that is going on, I'm not sure...

I started to listen to the new Rhapsody (of fire) cd yesterday, it seems about the same as the last, but I didn't hear a guitar solo, then again I only got to listen to the softer songs.

[Cid Highwind]

Yeah it was a blast without a doubt... though I still think this is one of the most static bands I've seen. The two guitarists both had one square meter of their own and while they had a large stage, they didn't move an inch. Same for the bass player who was standing next to the drummer all of the time.

Hmm, Rhapsody is another band I'd love to see.

Also, yesterday I found out Graveworm will be heading for the studios in january next year, hopefully they'll go back to their gothic/black metal roots and leave the nu-metal for what it is. Can't wait to see them touring through europe again after their previous 2 shows here got cancelled.

[Chrono Archangel]

I started to listen to the new Rhapsody (of fire) cd yesterday, it seems about the same as the last, but I didn't hear a guitar solo, then again I only got to listen to the softer songs.

Yeah... I've just listened to it. Kinda dissapointed...
Lucca Turilli is such a talented guitarist and yet you dont here any insane solos like on earlier albums. I'll listen to it a few more times...maybe I'll find a 10 second solo somewhere :p

[darth sephiroth]

me too, much more pleased by the new iron maiden album though!

[Aided Onslaught]

New iron maiden is good? I heard some clips and it was much better than dance with death, I only like one full song on that thing, so I hope they didn't repeat stuff to no end like they normally do. you know press the edit button.

[Cid Highwind]

Yay... Harddrive crashed... goodbye music, goodbye homework (not that I care) and goodbye videos and photos :( Oh and goodbye to 50 hours of Oblivion, next game plz.

Luckily some videos are still hosted by Industrian, but I think I've lost the ones of Edguy and Hammerfall permanently, hopefully a friend of mine still has 'em. :idea: I think some colleagues still have them on dvd I burned for them ages ago. But man this sucks...

The Guardian videos are still on my camera though. Oh and some other good news: I will be going to another gig this Thursday, Silent Edge, and I can't wait :D

[hushypushy]

Could've been worse... one friend had a Big Mac, 3 Quarter pounders and god knows what more oO I wonder if he's still alive.

i'm more worried about the food itself than the amount :p man McD's is crap, i've had it in three countries and it tasted exactly the same (****ty). that's not a good thing...

[Cid Highwind]

The only thing that changes per country are the size of the Big Macs, in Italy they're even smaller than in the Netherlands.

Heh, and while we're at it, here's a pic of the free stuff.

Oh man, and then to think of it that we're gonna eat there again this Thursday... it's a tradition :p

Look at all the happy faces, the third one, with the glasses, he got a happy meal for his birthday, he was jumping around like a little schoolgirl. Yeah I've got weird friends, both online and offline.

[hushypushy]

yeah the sizes....everything in japan was tiny, the US small is the size of the japanese Large. ridiculous.

goddamn their food is ****ty

[Cid Highwind]

It's still better than Burger King... been there twice and from my personal experience it's worse than McD. The Big King was just godawful, and the previous time I had some kind of bbq thingie, it sounded nice, but it had these nasty smokey chemicals on it they refer to as BBQ sauce.

[hushypushy]

hmm well i do admit that the last time i went to burger king i got really sick (my gf was pissed....she comes to visit me and i'm all laid up dead in bed). but at least their food tastes better than mcd's!!!!! honestly though i don't like either of them. come to visit California, i'll take you to In N' Out. it's kind of cliched here on the west coast, but their food is actually good. they use real ingredients for their food, it's pretty ridiculous.

[Cid Highwind]

Ah so no burgers made from leather, plastic cheese, sponge bread and... naah I'll skip the part about the sauce :p

[hushypushy]

real bread, real meat (not frozen), real onions, real potatoes...anyone from the west coast who sees these posts is gonna be like YEAH IN N OUT SO WHAT :heh: but i remember my aunt and uncle visited from Canada and we took them there and they were blown away.

[ArchIBaLD]

I can't believe so many still think metal is just screaming and simple guitars that could pass as rap bass lines. I also can't believe how people decide what kind of music is by lyrical content. Who cares what they write about, listen to the music (no that's not called the "beat" of the song, morons). What's also great, and this will be the last one for now. The people who think this way are the first to judge something they never heard before for as being crap.

I also picked up the new Blind Guardian. It is really good, but it is a step down from Night at the opera. To a point that's good, but I still like to hear all the differnt things going on. Still has a really great songs.


you are so ****ing right, i should know, ive been trying to convince a freind of mine to stop listening to pop..

The blind guardian album is pretty neat. I prefer imaginations from the other side myself (add to it sadly sings destiny, curse of feanor and bright eyes and its perfect imo) but there are some good songs like this will never end and turn the page. i love it

@cid.. i really envy you. I'm all sad inside. i would pay alot of money to hear them. bright eyes to be exact (did you hear the song on youtube?! way better then the way the sang it in their album) :D

[Cid Highwind]

Bright Eyes.... Yeah I was damn glad they played that one as well, I just couldn't get myself to film that one simply because I like it more than the ones I did film. I never shoot the best songs unless I can see the band twice :p

You've probably posted it many times before on this board, but where are you from that they hardly visit your place?

[ArchIBaLD]

hardly visit? they don't visit at all. I'm from israel btw.

the only conserts we have here are small ones in metal clubs of old bands (80's) and "from russia with love" if you know what it is. we had a huge club that organized conserts but after the fiasco of the metalica consert it got closed down. :(

[Cid Highwind]

What happened, they played the whole Saint Anger album? :p

[ArchIBaLD]

It was sort of.. when push comes to shove? anyway the crowd started pushing farward (not that much from what i heard) and the band got scared (you know because its israel, middle east and stuff like) and bailed. so the guy that organized the consert got really offended and closed his club and company.

[Chrono Archangel]

haha, thats sad...
what's Bright Eyes?... I've never heard of them...

[Aided Onslaught]

Bright eyes is a good SONG by Blind guardian. I never heard the band, but that's because where I use to come from a buch of hardcore kids had the shirt on, and well I heard then play guitar, and....If I hear a drop D power cord used so many times again, I'm going to cut some faces off. So, please if they are good, tell me, I'll check them out.

[Chrono Archangel]

ahhh sorry bout that... ill give it a listen, maybe it'll ring a bell lol
i suck with titles

[Cid Highwind]

w00t!!!

KATAKLYSM
NEAERA
FEAR MY THOUGHTS
QUO VADIS

Friday January 5, Biebob Belgium :D

There will also be an alternative date, thursday the 4th, but then they'll be playing at the worst venue I've ever been, it is in the Netherlands though, so if belgium won't be an option because of the distance and time, we might have to go there.

I doubt we'll be staying for Kataklysm though, we've heard it once when Graveworm toured with them, and they redefined what we percieve as noise :p

[Cid Highwind]

Hey guys, it's been almost a week, but I've been busy gaming so don't blame me :p

Last Saturday I finally got the chance to see the holy worms again. Graveworm was to play in Belgium, kinda like nextdoor to an old member some of you might remember, Carnage. Unfortunately he had to cancel it last minute so we couldn't meet up for a night of beer 'n metal.

There were also a couple of other bands, of which we only saw Herfst and Double Diamond, both local bands. Herfst (= autumn/fall) was pretty damn good, very good and loud vocals/grunts, great drums and nice guitar riffs. A very enjoyable start of the night for us.

After Herfst we got Double Diamond, some kind of thirteen in a dozen heavy metal band with a funny frontman. His appearrance made us laugh especially when he drew a sword :p

Meanwhile we noticed Stefan and Harry walk up the stairs to the merchandise stands :D Managed to talk with Stefan (vocals) for some time and he had more time than ever before. We've had it twice that he ran off quickly after a gig, but now he seemed to have all the time of the world for us. Got to talk a bit about the new album, and they've got 6 songs ready, except for the lyrics. Also it is going to be more technical IIRC, and I certainly hope it will be taking a step away from the nu-metal, back to the old gothic roots.

I asked Stefan that if I'd buy a couple of albums, if he'd be willing to sign one or two of them. He offered me to take them backstage to have them signed by the whole band. So now I've got Scource of Malice, Engraved in Black and (n)Utopia all signed, this definately made my day :D

Have been spending some time with Harry as well (axe), great guy, shared a beer or two as well. Had some chats about other bands and everything. He explained to me that they didn't have much time after the gig because they had to go to italy (900km) that night, because the other night their drummer had to work again oO

After enjoying the convs and making some kickass pictures, and a couple of beers later, the show finally started. Their intro tune from nUtopia kicked in, and the dodo responsible for it forgot to turn off the cd when the band was supposed to start, kinda messy :p The first two songs had some sloppy moments as well, like mixing up tempo I think. Doesn't matter anyway because the crowd went wild, as you can see in the videos I've made.

They played the following songs:
I - The Machine, Legions Unleashed, Hateful Design, A Dreaming Beauty, Dreaming into Reality, Unhallowed by the Infernal One, and as zugabe we got ABHORRENCE \ , , /
In between they also asked us to name a song, the crowd was divided between Losing My Religion (rem cover) and Fear of the Dark. We got the latter, and I hope you guys will enjoy the video of it ;)

I can't remember last time I've had a neck this stiff, and I'm sure I've never had so much beer at a gig either. Fell asleep as soon as we stepped in the car... It's been a good night, can't wait to see the guys again.

Graveworm - Legions Unleashed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k3RhzmhUNc)

Graveworm - Fear of the Dark (Iron Maiden cover) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k900b_zxv-8)

Oh and here's another video as well, one from the Blind Guardian gig some time ago.

Blind Guardian - Nightfall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp4tBvZEwNQ)

Pic1: Harry, Cid, and a drunk Dino :p
Pic2: Cid and Stefan

[Chrono Archangel]

Good stuff Cid.
I'm kinda sad, my boss told me ill be working out of town until christmas so I might miss the Blind Guardian show and the CoB show :(
Luckily its only 2 hours away by train so I'll probably just not sleep those nights :p

[Cid Highwind]

Sorry to hear that man, Guardian rocks, and I would love to see CoB as well. Were you planning to visit the Unholy Alliance by any chance?

Oh now I just read the last line of your post and yeah, sleep is overrated, go for it :p

[ArchIBaLD]

Does Blind Guardian start every song the same way? Nightfall is exactly the same :p

thanks for the videos Cid!

[Cid Highwind]

Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rMxoVNwLIA) another one from the same Blind Guardian gig which I just uploaded. Time Stands Still at the Iron Hill :D

Btw, I must say these guys are really dead on stage... I thought Sonata didn't move around a lot, but these guys simply stood within the same square meter for the entire concert.

[MT]

:D
Nice ups Cid! :D I will dl them as soon I finish my Iced Earth dl.

[industrian]

Jesus Christ... leave it to me to *ahem* legitimately resurrect this thread. ;)

Suidakra (http://www.suidakra.com) released their long awaited new album "Caledonia" last month. To all that have not heard of Suidakra, your problem is solved:

qz8EfkS4KK0

Suidakra kick ass. Me and that weird French dude can't be wrong. :p

[hushypushy]

Man, I don't post here unless I'm replying I guess. I saw Necrophagist/Dying Fetus/Cannibal corpse last month, but uh..didn't post!

[Spectr4L]

Cool thread ^_^

I am into metal. Fear Factory are my favorite ;)

Close seconds are Ministry, The Berzerker, Origin...etc etc.

[Cid Highwind]

Man, I don't post here unless I'm replying I guess. I saw Necrophagist/Dying Fetus/Cannibal corpse last month, but uh..didn't post!

Shame on you! ;)

This reminds me to upload some of the videos of last week, mainly Laibach and Necrophobic.

@Spectr4l: I remember a friend of mine sending a Fear Factory song, didn't sound that bad indeed, I just can't remember the titel.

[Chrono Archangel]

Insane show Monday night. I saw CoB and Amon Amarth with Gojira and Sanctity :D

Amon Amarth was just plain f**kin good!

[Cid Highwind]

Never really heard any music by three of them, I know CoB though. Any pictures? :D

[hushypushy]

Cool thread ^_^

I am into metal. Fear Factory are my favorite ;)

Close seconds are Ministry, The Berzerker, Origin...etc etc.

Fear Factory is touring with Decapitated, Hypocrisy, and Suffocation. Which sucks because it's gonna be H, S, D, FF and the only person I know who wants to go plans on leaving after Suffocation because he doesn't want to see Decap or FF. I've already seen Suffocation (they were ok) and I don't care for Hypocrisy, all I want to see are Decap and FF. Man, Decapitated is ****ing awesome live. Oh well, guess I'm not seeing that one.

[Spectr4L]

Fear Factory is touring with Decapitated, Hypocrisy, and Suffocation. Which sucks because it's gonna be H, S, D, FF and the only person I know who wants to go plans on leaving after Suffocation because he doesn't want to see Decap or FF. I've already seen Suffocation (they were ok) and I don't care for Hypocrisy, all I want to see are Decap and FF. Man, Decapitated is ****ing awesome live. Oh well, guess I'm not seeing that one.


Yeah, I caught the northeastern leg of that tour.....superb show! All of the bands still had lots of energy. I missed part of Decapitated's set as they played first (and my friend and I were late)....ah well - next time. Their set was great from what I heard ;)

I'd say a good portion of strictly death metal fans that left after Suffocation, so your friends idea wasn't entirely original lol.

[hushypushy]

Yeah, I don't even get why FF is even touring with those guys, what a weird supporting cast. FF is metal, but not in the vein of the other bands...ah well. Missing out on Decap, that sucks. They play a pretty basic show, but they are my favorite death metal band, I find their songs so very very catchy...

[industrian]

Just got this today:

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/5074/manowaraa2.jpg

Other bands play...

[JKKDARK]

It comes with any new song?

[F-3582]

Oh noes! Thread revival!

I just got the "Next Album of All Time" by Knorkator - one of my favourite german metal bands. They combine everything a good bands needs: wonderful lyrics (not only in german), great compositions and an amazing lead singer.

For anyone who doesn't know this band, yet, I'll give you some listening pleasure:

An overview (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1608889199)
One of their earlier works (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1379319811182062239&q=knorkator)
My second-favourite ballad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKakM5HKasE)

Let's look at some of their new songs:

My third-favourite ballad (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1691840044)
"My Fans Embarrass Me!" (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1736928564)
"Old Man" (http://knorkator.de/alterflash/altermannfilm.htm)
"We Will..." (http://knorkator.de/wwflsh/wirwerdenfilm.htm)
the same song, but on Arab (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoID=1672922872) :D

I just wanted to share my weird taste of music with you ^^

P.S.: Knorkator had almost made it to the Eurovision Song Contest. With this:

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They actually became second place after this guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v7_hJpbPgo).

[industrian]

Oh noes! Thread revival!

In a way, this thread is pretty much a microcosm of metal in general. Popular one day, fades away, gets revived, fades away, gets revived...

:p

I just got the "Next Album of All Time" by Knorkator - one of my favourite german metal bands. They combine everything a good bands needs: wonderful lyrics (not only in german), great compositions and an amazing lead singer.

For some reason they remind me of (early) Megaherz.

They actually became second place after this guy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v7_hJpbPgo).

That video sums up the Eurovision Song Contest perfectly: very, very, stupid. :p

EDIT: Just listened to "Wir Werden Alle Sterben." Quite a good song. :p

[MT]

EDIT: Just listened to "Wir Werden Alle Sterben." Quite a good song.

"loltastic" as you said to me. The solo part is the best.

[industrian]

Just discovered this on Youtube.

THE ABSOLUTE POWER!!

s2bnKeUvKG0

If you appreciate metal, you need to watch that! It's from their recent DVD that covered their big appearance at the EarthShaker Fest in 2005. That DVD is worth every penny btw.

[Chrono Archangel]

Triple drums
Great solos
Motorcycles on stage

ftw....

[darth sephiroth]

just one word... sweet :)

[hushypushy]

I just kept wondering how three drummers on stage could be having any fun...they're all playing the same thing! That's a lot of musicians on one stage...I wonder what their practice space looks like.

[F-3582]

Didn't James Brown have 6 ('six') drummers on stage, just because every single one of them had his own groove only he could play the way James Brown considered perfect?

[MT]

Just discovered this on Youtube.

THE ABSOLUTE POWER!!



If you appreciate metal, you need to watch that! It's from their recent DVD that covered their big appearance at the EarthShaker Fest in 2005. That DVD is worth every penny btw.
I've downloaded the YouTube video... guess I've to search for the DVD now. The short video made me hungry for more!

[industrian]

I just kept wondering how three drummers on stage could be having any fun...they're all playing the same thing! That's a lot of musicians on one stage...I wonder what their practice space looks like.

They normally only have one drummer (Scott Columbus) and one guitarist (Karl Logan) but they had a MASSIVE performance at Earthshaker that featured all of their previous members (Ross the Boss and David Shankle on guitars and Donnie Hamzik and Rhino on drums). That song, Battle Hymn, was the final song on the set, and it was easily the best way to end any show.

[Cid Highwind]

Too bad Knorkator didn't make it F-3582, these guys are hella funny, I think there's another German band that would make a great candidate: Tankard :D

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Brings back memories, doesn't it Industrian? :beer:

[F-3582]

Blind Guardian might have a chance, as well. Remember this song?

PC6B1vkRn1I

[The Captain]

Do any of you guys watch Metalocalypse? It's a show on Adult Swim (cartoon network) about metal. It's really brutal (awesome).

[industrian]

Brings back memories, doesn't it Industrian? :beer:

And I thought I'd put on weight during the holidays. :p He was twice as big at Arnhem.

With that said: WHISKEY!! BEER!!

[Chrono Archangel]

Blind Guardian might have a chance, as well. Remember this song?


haha i love that song. Didnt know they made a video form it :)
Damm clowns!!

[hushypushy]

They normally only have one drummer (Scott Columbus) and one guitarist (Karl Logan) but they had a MASSIVE performance at Earthshaker that featured all of their previous members (Ross the Boss and David Shankle on guitars and Donnie Hamzik and Rhino on drums). That song, Battle Hymn, was the final song on the set, and it was easily the best way to end any show.

Two drummers is insane, three...wow! I've seen Claypool play with two drummers, I honestly don't think it's that great. Too much percussion noise for me, perhaps.

I could tell they were having some sort of big party, I doubt they do every song like that! (if any band does that, that's amazing)

[industrian]

Two drummers is insane, three...wow! I've seen Claypool play with two drummers, I honestly don't think it's that great. Too much percussion noise for me, perhaps.

I prefer a single drummer. Yanic Bercier has that influence on me. :p

I could tell they were having some sort of big party, I doubt they do every song like that! (if any band does that, that's amazing)

They mainly played with just the normal lineup, but they had a "Battle Hymns Era (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_Hymns_%28Manowar_album%29)" where the original lineup played a few songs. Then they had a "Triumph of Steel Era (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triumph_of_Steel)" where they played a few songs with Shankle and Rhino replacing Logan and Columbus.

I nearly went to Germany to see that show, instead my parents told me I'd have to pay rent. :p

[Aided Onslaught]

I hate bands with two drummers, bass players, or vocalist (on less one is behind an instrument). It just bothers me.

The Blind Guardian clown video. Not something you want to show people if you want to turn them into fans. haha

[F-3582]

Tolerance, my friend!

[industrian]

I hate bands with two drummers, bass players, or vocalist (on less one is behind an instrument). It just bothers me.

I take it you're not an Overbass fan then. :p

[F-3582]

/me looks at his Marcus Miller CDs...

[industrian]

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Glasgow and West | Iron Maiden star captains Rangers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6354785.stm)

Iron Maiden star captains Rangers

Heavy metal legend Bruce D!ckinson was at the controls as Rangers football club flew to Israel for a Uefa Cup tie.

The Iron Maiden frontman piloted a 757 jet from Glasgow ahead of Wednesday's match against Hapoel Tel Aviv.

D!ckinson is qualified as a commercial pilot and regularly flies for UK-based charter firm Astraeus.

He specifically asked to fly the Ibrox men to the Israeli city when he learned that the charter firm had landed the contract.

Rangers manager Walter Smith told the club's website: "I know their stuff quite well.

"I remember going to meet the band when they played in Edinburgh a few years ago.

"I would never have thought that Bruce would be flying our plane."

Iron Maiden with D!ckinson at the helm are still going strong after two decades of hard rock and an estimated 80 million album sales.

Their hits include Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter, Run to the Hills, The Number of the Beast and The Trooper.

The band played the Glasgow SECC in December last year as part of a successful world tour.

Astraeus, based in Crawley, West Sussex, confirmed that D!ckinson was at the controls of Rangers' jet.

Glasgow Rangers were flying in style. And Bruce D!ckinson has too much spare time (considering that he's a singer, pilot, fencer...).

:D

[hushypushy]

I hate bands with two drummers, bass players, or vocalist (on less one is behind an instrument). It just bothers me.

WHAT? So you're not a huge Slipknot fan??


;)

[Chrono Archangel]

WHAT? So you're not a huge Slipknot fan??


;)

Slipknot doesnt really have 2 drums.... They don't count :p

[Cid Highwind]

BBC NEWS | Scotland | Glasgow and West | Iron Maiden star captains Rangers (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/glasgow_and_west/6354785.stm)



Glasgow Rangers were flying in style. And Bruce D!ckinson has too much spare time (considering that he's a singer, pilot, fencer...).

:D
I'm sure I wouldn't believe what I'd be hearing if I'd head "Welcome aboard, this is your Captain Bruce D!ckinson speaking" followed by one of his sinister laughs :p

[MT]

Iron Maiden star captains Rangers
Holy smoke!:p That's neat!

[hushypushy]

Slipknot doesnt really have 2 drums.... They don't count :p

Well, they have the drummer and TWO percussionists, so I figured that counted as two drummers total :p But we were talking about extraneous instrumentation, they certainly have it. Two backup vocals, two guitars, two percussionists (who just bang on crap), a keyboardist, and turntables, in addition to a singer and a bassist. Yikes.

[Cid Highwind]

If there's one thing I respect Slipknot for it's their drummer. Seen a video of it and I was pretty impressed by it.

[Chrono Archangel]

If there's one thing I respect Slipknot for it's their drummer. Seen a video of it and I was pretty impressed by it.

Joey Jordison is indeed one of my favorite drummers.

I do beleive the other two percussionists arent really necessary.
Their presence are noticeable in only a few of their songs.

[hushypushy]

If there's one thing I respect Slipknot for it's their drummer. Seen a video of it and I was pretty impressed by it.

Yeah, he's a good drummer. The band's direction went downhill after they hooked up with Corey Taylor. Check out the album Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat (you're gonna have to warez it because it's wayyyyyyyy out of print, there were only 1000 copies released), they had a different singer, some different members (I think they didn't even have Joey yet), and that album kicks ass. It's funky, heavy, and weird. A lot of the songs were remade later and put on their other albums, but they sound like just a big mush of sound, and Taylor's singing sucks.

By the way, Dying Fetus is coming out with a new album, and it leaked...I have it, I've yet to listen to it though. It feels weird to me to come with what I consider a "real" death metal band, it seems everyone here likes symphonic or european type metal :p

[Chrono Archangel]

In all honesty I like Corey Taylors voice in most of the songs from the Slipknot album and Vol3 (even though the songs arent like they used to)
Ohh and hush, if you see Manditory's new album Lend Me Your Ears, give me a shout.

[hushypushy]

I hate Corey Taylor's voice. He is whiny and terrible. I used to like him when I was in 7th grade but I found so many better real metal singers, and many better singing singers, so I lost interest.

[Aided Onslaught]

I admit I never really listened to slipknot but every time I did, I hated it with passion. I do admit the drummer is very good.

The only thing good I heard about them is they donated money to chuck schuldiner when he needed money for his surgery.

I must say that if you buy a magazine, to go buy the guitar world of april 2007. A honor to those that passed that helped develop metal and change the world FOREVER!

[refraction]

I admit I never really listened to slipknot but every time I did, I hated it with passion.


bet you love me then :evil: the shirt on too lol

[hushypushy]

Is that you?? Is that real??

[hushypushy]

Not exactly metal, but I wanted to put it in a public place just to brag to industrian :p

Amazon.com: Nine Inch Nails - Live - Beside You in Time: DVD (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000LXH3BK/ref=pd_rnr_gw_1/104-4890893-0087957)

Eligible for free shipping too, they always sucker me in to buying an extra CD or DVD or something...

EDIT. OMG BUMPDOUBLEPOSTLOL

[Chrono Archangel]

NiN never really did impress me. Wasn't it you that made me get their latest album? Never did listen to it after the first time...

[industrian]

Not exactly metal, but I wanted to put it in a public place just to brag to industrian :p

Shipping to the UK adds up. :p I get the Blu-ray from DVDBoxOffice.com exactly $1.18 cheaper. ;) Scottish frugality FTW!!

It's a very good deal you're getting there though. :)

NiN never really did impress me. Wasn't it you that made me get their latest album? Never did listen to it after the first time...

Check out "The Downward Spiral." It's easily one of the best albums ever made.

[dn]

www.myspace.com/soulfracture (http://www.myspace.com/soulfracture)

Buy their CD plz.

[MT]

songs from the Slipknot album and Vol3
I kinda like that album. Though last time I heard it was back in 2004.

[Cid Highwind]

Goddamned bloody corporate arsekissing youtube scumbags! The bastards removed one of my videos, a cover of Enter Sandman by some friends of mine, copyright crap. **** like this really pisses me off, what the hell is wrong with just a cover by an amateur band?

Nazis 1 - The people 0

[hushypushy]

NiN never really did impress me. Wasn't it you that made me get their latest album? Never did listen to it after the first time...

I remember talking about NIN, I told you to get With Teeth because it was the poppiest album :p My favorite is The Fragile, BUT I have to say that with the music you like, you probably won't ever get into NIN.

Goddamned bloody corporate arsekissing youtube scumbags! The bastards removed one of my videos, a cover of Enter Sandman by some friends of mine, copyright crap. **** like this really pisses me off, what the hell is wrong with just a cover by an amateur band?

Nazis 1 - The people 0

Weird. None of my videos have ever been removed from youtube, but my Tool/Nightmare Before Christmas video was removed from Google Video.

I'd say just upload it again. With the mountains of bootleg live footage/music videos/music used in homemade things/etc, I'd say that you're just one of the unlucky ones that got discovered.

[Cid Highwind]

Probably going to try that later on, the weirdest thing is that the other song, Fuel, is still up.

[hushypushy]

That's not weird at all. I'm sure that someone either randomly reported it, or some staff member randomly stumbled upon it. Have you seen the amazing amount of copyrighted material on Youtube? Youtube USED to screen the videos, but they are getting thousands of uploads per day, they just don't have time. Reupload it and no one will be the wiser.

[Cid Highwind]

Let me rephrase it then: If I would find a video that should be reported for this reason, I would check the other videos of the same user to see if he has more of them, because there is a big chance he has.

[hushypushy]

I don't think they're that diligent, to be honest. Or have enough time to scour vids.

[Aided Onslaught]

Today, my girlfriend bought me the Kamelot DVD and it is amazing. Awesome interview, I recommend this DVD to any metal fan, or even for someone that isn't into metal to much. Very well done.
I also bought Dream Evil's first cd dragon slayer. I had it downloaded before, and lent it to a friend and never got it back. Good thing I'm slowly buying my cds (man I have a lot of work...literally they don't buy themselves) and I thought I'd get it since it's a wonderful cd.

Head banging night for me.

[Cid Highwind]

Congrats on the Kamelot DVD, a lot of people, mainly chicks, tell me it's a great band. I remember the Sonata chick being a huge fan of theirs. I only know the song Soul Society because it gets played a lot on Aardschok FM. I like their sound, it's sounds pretty accessible.