Yes! an off-topic discussion.

[n0estoy]

this is about the final thing the board needed to be complete. anyway, what are your thoughts on the upcoming Xbox. I want to hear it all.:D

[Bgnome]

dude, its microsoft..nuff said :p
anyhow, it would be interesting to see what happens when they try to enter the videogame market. they already have some proprietary titles lined up which will give it a foot-up but who knows..

[n0estoy]

yeah. the most complaining i've heard w/ regards to the xbox is the ease with which titles can be ported to and from the pc. if it's true, then i don't want one in mi casa.

[unknown4x]

like i said previously - xbox will fail completly since its basically a pc base system and we will already have all the documentation to emulate it (and i think the processor will be x86 - so it will run at almost full speed too....) a 899$ price tag won't help either...

[tidus]

Xbox costs so much!! I would rather buy a new PC instead, since you can do anything with a PC. With Xbox you can only play games, email and do some other stuff. Plus, there's always emulation.

[RVWinkle]

Hmmm...where are you guys getting this price from? Last I heard, it was still unannounced. I'm pretty sure MS wouldn't release a console with such an unreasonable price point.

I think the Xbox has a good chance, I like how they're saying they designed the thing for the devolpers not the end-users. Regardless, it owns the PS2 and the only real competition is even more secretive (GameCube) so nobody can be sure what's going to happen.

[unknown4x]

this was a price i saw while looking at the old fourms.... or was it 499$?

[n0estoy]

$499 sounds a little closer to the mark.

[unknown4x]

still, 499$ does seem a little to expensive - even the ps2 was only 199$ :(

[tidus]

Wasn't the PS2 $299 the last time I saw it?

[unknown4x]

uh... yeah ok it was 299$ oops - typo....

[Raziel]

GameCube all the way!!!!!

[CDBuRnOuT]

The Xbox is rumored to be $149, GameCube $199....

[Samor]

well, I'd like to see lots of cool console games on xbox that get ported to pc...so I just can keep my pc and play all the cool games :)

[mathew2]

**** xbox.

xbox=lame.

[Samor]

lol! that's quick judgement.... :)

[Raziel]

The Xbox $149!,Let me laugh!!!!!
Here's what I think of the Xbox:mg: :laser: :rockets: :spy:

[Samor]

ah, you mean lots of shooting & puking games ;)

[syscrash2k]

I think xbox is gonna be pretty sucky...
even though it may have good specs, i dont think it has a chance against gamecube, you know, gamecube=nintendo(the best) xbox=microsoft(the newest to the video game market) so I think gamecube is a better choice after all NINTENDO.

[tidus]

Hope that the Xbox isn't as bad as their crashy Windows products. In other words, I hope that it doesn't crash or break down.

:laser: :rockets: :mg: :smash:=:dead:

[n0estoy]

hey syscrash2k, that was the same thing all my friends were saying about the psx 5 yrs ago, and they ended up buying the crap known as the N64. Not one of them didn't regret it. i can actually count the # of times i played an N64 on my two hands, not to bash nintendo or anything, but the N64 was just an embarassment.

[unknown4x]

Originally posted by CDBuRnOuT
The Xbox is rumored to be $149, GameCube $199....
really? they changed the outrageous 499$ price to 149USD$? wow that was weird it was like 499 USD$ last time someone talked about it on the old board

[tidus]

If the Xbox is really $149, then I'd but it. Cheaper than a pc of it's class.

[Snake785]

I don't think Xbox will do very good. I think they won't come out with good games. As for Gamecube, It will have lots of good games.

But I wouldn't get any of them, I'd just get Gameboy Advance. that's going to be the best system/handheld.

[n0estoy]

actually i am kinna interested in the Gboy Advance. :cool:

[Betamax]

I heard a rumur that sony will be reducing the price soon to make to look a more attractive purchase in comparison to the xbox. I don't really care either way as I'll probably wait 5 years and get their emulators :emb:

[Adair]

I doubt I'll buy any of the new consoles, but I think X-box has a good chance because...
nvidia's GeForce3 card
5.1 surround sound in games
a 700(+?) mhz processor

Anyway it should be cool, but I wonder about this V-chip type thing I heard they were gonna put in the xbox. I think it's supposed to keep some violence/gore out of the games and will keep people from storing stuff like porn on the built in hard drive.

Final thought: X-box+Deus Ex=very cool. I've already got the PC version of the deus ex game and it's with out a doubt the best looking most detailed game I've ever seen. If anyone has a high end PC and is interested in a futuristic-first-person-sneaker/shooter that is filled with conspiracy and action then you must play Deus Ex.

[mathew2]

i think x-box has no chance because

1) its wank.
2) its up against gamecube.

[Sandie]

Funny it's the same kind of things people said when Dreamcast and N64 were coming out. Look who the big loser was in that one. If Nintendo has more then 2 games at release time, which is all they had when they released n64, it will be cool. Hopefully they won't continue to make **** games like they did with the 64. I'm still mad I wasted $199 on that hunk of usless crap :(

[sunstorm]

i still glad i threw my money behind a dreamcast. even though sega has stopped producing games for it, the emulation potential for the dreamcast is tremendous. people are really developing stuff for the console.

they have successfully ripped a pc game and ported it to a dreamcast. abeit it being quake 1, it does spell potential for other games.

time will tell. until then, i'll be playing PSO...

[tidus]

I think now that Sega's announced the end of the Dreamcast, people will finally feel that it is time to be emulated.

[cluthu]

>Anyway it should be cool, but I wonder about this V-chip type
>thing I heard they were gonna put in the xbox. I think it's
>supposed to keep some violence/gore out of the games and will
>keep people from storing stuff like porn on the built in hard drive.

Given that Xbox will just be normal PC hardware, I wonder how long it'll be until someone cracks open the case, hacks the firmware, and makes a fairly nice (I'd think, given the specs) standalone computer out of the thing ;) Better still would be Microsoft hardware running Linux/xBSD/QNX/Be/etc. I'd imagine that'd give good 'ol Bill something to stress over, not to mention his losing his cherished 'richest man in the world' status to a company whose founder sold things from the back of a pickup truck ;) (Please don't construe that comment as my endorsing Walmart, however, as I avoid the place as best I can).

[CDBuRnOuT]

That article was wrong.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/18587.html

[Ryos]

The XBox is NOT normal PC hardware. Try playing your XBox games (hahah, what a bunch of crappy games) on a PC and see if they work.

[LoRd_ByRon]

xbox games ported to pc and vice-versa easily???:confused:

they said the same thing about dreamcast and look at the console now! it is :dead:

[Sandie]

Well I'll be driving to Redmond Washington on Tuesday May 8th, to do some game testing for the X-box so i'll tell you all if I think it's worth the money or not. NO I will not give specifics, not if they make me sign one of those gag orders. :D

[cluthu]

>The XBox is NOT normal PC hardware.
The XBox may not run a normal OS, but from what I've heard it'll be based on standardized PC processors (AMD, if I remember correctly) have a normal North/South-bridge for PCI, use GeForce for graphics and such. If it uses even x86 registers (and it should, given that they're using stock AMD procs), I don't think there'd be alot of difficulty in making it run other software.

[CDBuRnOuT]

It's Intel's PIII....

[campaign2016]

well just by looking at these posts, i dont think the XBOX is gonna do that well.

but i also think it wont do well because of other reasons
1 )I have never boughten a microsoft game that hasnt needed to be patched before it was playable

2) its gotta compete with both PS2 and GameCube just look what the PlayStation and the N64 did to the DreamCast.

3) I have a feeling that many games that come out on the XBOX will also come out for the comp (but you never know)

4) the xbox is basically a computer designed for gaming

Well those are my oppinions


Also, has any one considered how easy it would be to make a dream cast emulator for the XBOX since it will most likely run a version of Windows CE like the dreamcast. But I dont know much about programming.

[LanGaidin]

Wow, so much mis-information in one thread... Amazing. At least we know the media is doing it's job of poisoning people's minds with hype and propaganda. :/

1 )I have never boughten a microsoft game that hasnt needed to be patched before it was playable

Hrm, I can't think of a single game that I've "boughten" that didn't have to b patched. I've actually had pretty good results with MS games. Yes, they all had bugs, but then, there aren't any games released in the past 5 years that didn't have bugs in teh inital release. I would actually rate MS at least as high as ID or EA on the quality of their inital releases.

2) its gotta compete with both PS2 and GameCube just look what the PlayStation and the N64 did to the DreamCast.

First, the PS2 is not selling anywhere NEAR as well as the PSX did. And, the N64 didn't really have anything to do with the DC production being pulled. In fact, the PSX didn't have alot to do with it, either. The DC wouldn't have sold well in Japan, even if it woul dhave been the only console on the market (It DID sell well in the US, but the company's based in Japan...)

3) I have a feeling that many games that come out on the XBOX will also come out for the comp (but you never know)

Even if that is true, there are VERY few console games that are any good as PC games (And vice versa)... Even if most of them are ported, the originals are pretty much guaranteed to be the better version.

4) the xbox is basically a computer designed for gaming

Yeah, as opposed to every other console, right?

I'm not saying the X-Box is going to be awesome or ****ty. I'm just saying that it's completely stupid to base your opinion on anything other than facts, and even what little bit we actually know isn't enough to say how good it's going to be. We'll find that out in about 6 months.

[CDBuRnOuT]

LanGaidin owned you, hard. :/

[campaign2016]

yes he did
he owned me god and hard it hurt

but, those are still my oppinions
and i still feel that the XBOX is more of a comp than a console

[mathew2]

x box is gonna suck the big one.

[Betamax]

Remember my sig...

If I recall correctly Microsoft are putting arooung £600 Million just in advertising alone.

The significant fact is this is the same amount of money that they got from the US MOD to use win 2k on battle ships. Ummmmm;)

[Ryos]

Doesn't matter how much money you put into advertising if the system doesn't have any good games.

[Sandie]

Well I just got back from a testing session for the x-box and the game I played was Fairly fun and the graphics were very nice and very smooth. I think it has a good chance personally.

[Ryos]

A system without RPGs stands no chance in Japan, the only country that matters. Look at the N64 pre-Ocarina of Time. Really quite sad...

[campaign2016]

I believe thats why a zelda game is scheduled for a release on the new game cube or is that just a rumor but there also wasnt a metroid game for the n64

[Bgnome]

as far as i know, there is a zelda, pokemon, mario, and smash bros planned for the gc

[Betamax]

Originally posted by Ryos
Doesn't matter how much money you put into advertising if the system doesn't have any good games.

..... and if you don't market it to hell no-one will write any games for it in the first place.

The old chicken and egg situation.

[Ryos]

Originally posted by Betamax


..... and if you don't market it to hell no-one will write any games for it in the first place.

The old chicken and egg situation.

True.

[password0k]

I'm willin to bet that the Xbox crashes.
And PS2 has been $300 since it came out.

[Shiori]

Originally posted by CDBuRnOuT
The Xbox is rumored to be $149, GameCube $199....

if only it ended up that cheap. :p ....yeah, maybe in 2004. :p

[armedar]

I seen a preview for Zelda on gamecube... I think they really really screwed up on the way they did that :p

[Ryos]

Originally posted by Shiori
if only it ended up that cheap. :p ....yeah, maybe in 2004. :p At the time of those rumors, they were thought to be going for those prices. However, reality and the almighty dollar stepped in.

[Samor]

is it a sport to dig up old threads?
if so, let me know and I'll bump a few -_-

[Ryos]

Originally posted by Samor
is it a sport to dig up old threads?
if so, let me know and I'll bump a few -_- This recent trend of bumping up ridiculously old threads (and I mean way old, almost a year) is bugging me. And in this case, there are NEWER threads with the exact same thing.

[Shiori]

passwordOK brought this one up from the graveyard.