Small PS2 or Big one

[hackerslog]

Hi:
Which PS2 is better in performance Small one or the older big one. I mean the Small one is comes with less functions & is not very good :(

I am going to buy a PS2 Soon Please guide me in detail.

Regards

[Kane]

Niether. They are the same. The small PS2 is just a revision like the PSOne was for the PSX

[Guyver2K6]

Buy an Xbox :P

[Samor]

Buy an Xbox :P

make constructive posts ;P

I do not know of any differences...afaik you can't connect a HD to the new one, but it has a network adapter built in.
I got the new one because it looks a little better, IMO. I like the fact that it's small.

[VDDZ]

I think he is worried about the lack of hd support. I have seen pics of an external hd that connects to the pstwo in the back somehow, I don't know if this product will make it to the states though. I have the new pstwo, I got it cause my old ps2 died and I had a warrenty. The ps2 has the self opening door, which was removed from the pstwo as it leaves more places for malfunction. I have not had any "software" issues, like the manual mentions may happen. The only problem I had was with my multitap which I use for a AV select, but I just messed with the part that plugs into the pstwo and made it fit, now it works fine. If you were in the pstwo's gui when you turn it on, you would not be able to tell it apart from a ps2's unless you know what bios numbers goes with what ps2/two version. I like the pstwo better, it has a built in ethrnet port, less parts to break and just looks cool in general.

[Razor Blade]

I mean the Small one is comes with less functions & is not very good

Well not really. I mean it has integrated ethernet. The only thing it lacks currently is HDD support in North America. But they are working on it.

Te amount of games that currently use the HDD are very very very slim. Not to mention games that will use it. Hardley any.

You better decide quick though, because there will be many shortages with te new model PS2's if you decide to go with them (I would) They are smaller. Do the same thing, look sexier and cost less (at least where I live) The only crappy part is they aren't bundled with a game. But the games see the original PS2 bundled with I'm not interested in at all.

[KanedA]

it has crapy laser anyway... :( as the big ps2 :hdbash:

and HDD connected to it by USB.... naaah I'm going to buy older big sister ps2 ;)

[Squigi63]

and HDD connected to it by USB....
What I heard is that there won't be any HDD support for PStwo, thats why they haven't stopped making the orginal versions.

I say get the newest old ps2 you can find. The newer one I heard had built in DVD remotes.

[KanedA]

What I heard is that there won't be any HDD support for PStwo, thats why they haven't stopped making the orginal versions.

emm... *cough* under *cough* ground *cough*

[Squigi63]

emm... *cough* under *cough* ground *cough*
??? and for good measure ?

-If by underground you mean third party, then I would hold off on it till it's guarteed to work. Lots of third party PS2 stuff doesn't work well like old modems.

-If by underground you mean from an underground source, well that just doesn't seem realiable.

[KanedA]

It could be said that both of your options were on my mind ;)

[Razor Blade]

The newer one I heard had built in DVD remotes.

Nope. You still have to buy those seperately. ;)

[Badaro]

Well not really. I mean it has integrated ethernet. The only thing it lacks currently is HDD support in North America. But they are working on it.

Where did you hear that? Because everywhere I read about this mentioned Sony has no intention to add HDD support to the new PS2.

[]s Badaro

[Razor Blade]

Realy. I heard rumors that they were making an external unit oO

If they do or don't I don't think it matters much. If you wanna play FFXI that bad on your PS2 than buy the big fat ass PS2. If not just buy the PC version (which is better IMHO) or jus don't play that game. Like me :p

[VDDZ]

I heard rumors and saw pics, but those can be fake.

About the bad lasers, I heard that it was the loading tray that would get out of line, making the laser unable to read the disk right. That's why they went back to the door-type version.

[moomoomoo]

I heard rumors and saw pics, but those can be fake.

About the bad lasers, I heard that it was the loading tray that would get out of line, making the laser unable to read the disk right. That's why they went back to the door-type version.
That was sometimes the problem, although the scph3xxxx range did have bad lasers of a poor build quality.

[Dark Watcher]

Well..as some have mentioned..There are groups that have created a disk that will allow the PSTwo to recognize PC USB external harddrives. This software is not endorsed or supported by Sony, nor can it be used in the same manner as the FFXI bundle. It is more for the purposes of HDD Loading...We won't go any further then that...Google has the answers.

FFXI is currently the only game that makes full use of the HDD. Some games have the ability to cache, but it is not that big a deal. Downloadable content such as levels is not to big either. Perhaps if more demand and developer support are there they will change their mind, but what does it matter...With a current install base of over 75 million sister BIG PS2s, there is no real need for HDD support. The PSTwo is merely to capitolize on those who have yet to get a PS2, those who wish to replace an older soon defective model, or those who have the cash to invest in another simply because it looks cool ;)

[Razor Blade]

Gack! Triple post!

[Samor]

Nope. You still have to buy those seperately. ;)

I think he means the built-in IR receiver (it's in the pstwo as well).

If they do or don't I don't think it matters much. If you wanna play FFXI that bad on your PS2 than buy the big fat ass PS2. If not just buy the PC version (which is better IMHO) or jus don't play that game. Like me :p

Indeed :p

[Xeven]

I will have to get the a new version soon simply because i ****ed up my second ps2 a month ago and the one i'm using now is at it's deathbed :heh: But truthfully if I had to choose between the old and the new, I'd get the new one just for the hell of it. :)

[Raziel]

The laser of the new model is just horrible, there's be quite a lot of reports on the modchip scene of dudes having to bring back their "PSTwo" to the shop after a few hourds/days of use because they used RW media on it, apparently, such media kills the lens in a matter of hours.

[KanedA]

yeah read that on http://site.i.can.t.link.here.;P.com and few other things about burning lense etc. WTF does people from Sony think they're doing?

[Samor]

maybe they designed the console to play ps2 games and watch dvd's on...and not to try all kinds of weird tricks. ;P

[KanedA]

his new pstwo can lock up without modchip or any other mod :p

[Xeven]

The laser of the new model is just horrible, there's be quite a lot of reports on the modchip scene of dudes having to bring back their "PSTwo" to the shop after a few hourds/days of use because they used RW media on it, apparently, such media kills the lens in a matter of hours.
why would anybody need to use RW anyhow, unless they download crap off the net i guess. :p

[Razor Blade]

I use DVD-RW all the time. I make DVD's for my family instead of giving them the actual DVD :p They're rough so I just burn it to DVD-RW :p (and what you said above too) :D

[~akujin~]

my "old" V10 ps2 (last model of the "big ones" i guess) used to scratch discs from time to time (i mentioned that in another thread)...
so i ebayed that-in-the-grey-legal-area-hd-software, bought a ethernet adapter and stuffed my pc hdd in the expansion bay. now my games play fine from hdd and i don't have to worry about getting my precious ffx more scratched as it already is... >_<
so the big ps2 would be my choice anytime over the new one... ^_^

*edit* as nice side effect the loading times are better *edit end*

[KanedA]

you should try to calibrate your laser...

anyway those scratches... that why back ups are usefull, and your valuable DVD won't get any damage :)

[Toshiro]

Well it is really up to you which one to take. The newer ones are ok, but my buddy bought it and within a couple of weeks the PS2 actually caught fire. I thought he was joking, but when I went over his place the thing was smelling like burned resistors. Took it back and got another one and it was ok. It would seem that the new models have problems with the laser dying rather easily from various forums I looked at. Whatever you do make sure you thoroughly test the PSTwo heavily then if within a couple of weeks it seems fine they you are set for a good experience, if like my friend you are unfortunate to have a toasting PSTwo just send it back right away and complain to your hearts content.

The older ones are ok if you want the HDD support, I personally use the HDD as a massive memory card, the one that came with FFXI just made it a whole lot easier to make a lot of save files of multiple games without having the MC running out of room. Also it is good for the *cough* <insert you know what here> when it comes to loading games quickly :)

[KanedA]

PPL!!! I Just Reviced A Phone Call , Which Said That MY PS2 Just Arrived At Home Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisshhhhhhhhhhh, And Im Still At Work Doooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhh... Wat A Friggin' Day :D:D:D:D

[Samor]

new model or old one? :)

[KanedA]

old of course :) in future it'll have hdd and linux ;)

[earthleaf]

I got the version before the new one , mainly because I plan on purchasing the hdd in the future .

[KanedA]

I got the version before the new one , mainly because I plan on purchasing the hdd in the future .

as many of us ;) don't forget about network adapter

BTW... any one have some resources if there is a possibility to connect HDD to PS2 without using NA or USB port? :)

[Samor]

afaik there is, but one has to search on sites I think I can't mention here, due to legal aspects.

[KanedA]

dooh... I was sure someone will have to write that he can't post it here... anyway thx for info :)