Crappy systems

[Shadow_Caster]

what is the crappiest system youve ever run a psx emu on?
mine was a P133 with a trident video card, a soudblaster awe16 (or 32, dont remember) 32 Mb of SDRAM and win95. Oh, I was trying to use epsxe. I got about 5 FPS too.

[Neojag]

im surprised it worked :D

[SIR_LINX]

yeaaaa me too :eek: :eek: :eek:

[Betamax]

Maybe I should get that old 486SX 25 out of the cupboard:p

[Neojag]

it doesnt work on my 486 dx2 66 :D
but then again, i have w95 and no DX in there :D

[Zephon]

I think at least a Pentium is REALLY required.

[Shadow_Caster]

Well, I tried using it on my 486 sx2. It cant run mdecs, and the only game that gets more that 0.1 fps is lunarI, which runs at about 1 to 3 fps. My 486 has a trident card tho, so It might not work on yours.

[Zephon]

Originally posted by Shadow_Caster
Well, I tried using it on my 486 sx2. It cant run mdecs, and the only game that gets more that 0.1 fps is lunarI, which runs at about 1 to 3 fps. My 486 has a trident card tho, so It might not work on yours.

Dude, it worked on a 486sx? I thought it was impossible even for the emulator to run! how much ram does it have?

[Betamax]

Well in that case maybe I should borrow my mates old 386 laptop.:D

[Zephon]

Originally posted by Betamax
Well in that case maybe I should borrow my mates old 386 laptop.:D

I think not even Win9x run in a 386.

[Betamax]

Well actually the original win 95 release had a minimium spec of a 386 w/ 4 mb ram (I can hoke out that old review if you need proof). However it is STRONGLY discouraged:p. Hell I had the beta version of 95 running on a not so more powerful 486 sx 25 W/ 4mb ram back in '94. Now THAT was painful.

[Neojag]

lolz, i imagine so :D

[Zephon]

Man, I had a 486DX2-66MHz with 8mb ram and I didn't want to use win95 because I thought it would be slow. Now I know that it would fly compared to yours.

[Zephon]

At school we still have 486DX2-66 with 16mb ram with win95. That's a torture. Sometimes I try to open Internet Explorer 3.0 and the computer almost always crashes with only one explorer window.

[Neojag]

My 486 66MHZ running preety stable (if u can call stable to anything related to Micro$oft...) and fast w/ Win95! maybe its cause it has 16 MB ram, i dont know...

[Betamax]

yep that probably would be the case. After all the next spec that I had upped the processor to a dx 4 100 w/ 16 mb and it was very stable... except when burning cds. All you had to do was beathe in the general direction to create a $20 coaster.:eyes:

[Neojag]

CDrs were THAT expensive eh? ;)

[Betamax]

Aye. The drive was about $1000 too. (kinda reminds me of dvd-rws now... maybe I should get one :D)

[ebola]

i though my 486dx2 66 was sweet back in the day with 24 megs of ram. not quite as sweet as my apple2c.

[Samor]

the old psemupro got a few fps with a glide card on my old p75. The game I tried was Midnight Run, some not-so-good Konami Ridge Racer clone with the subname "roadfighter 2" to try to get fans of the old game to try this one too.

note: that worked too...I tried it.

[Zephon]

Samor, at least your computer had a 3dfx card, which is a good help for a Pentium75.

[Samor]

yes....as you can imagine it gave certain games an enormous speed boost. However, some times it would just crash; the card was sometimes a bit too heavy for the computer (p75 was the absolute minimum requirement for the 3dfx card).

[Zephon]

yeah... I imagine a Pentium75 struggling to start windows... absolutely impossibl a p75 cpu power for video, sound and loading a game at the same time.

[Demigod]

My 286 was pretty good back then. It was faster than some of the 386 computers at school. I was so proud of that. Plus it had a 512 KB VGA videocard and a VGA monitor. My proudest moment was when I upgraded to DOS 6.22 by myself, manually. The self-install program failed so I, using all my knowledge about DOS, copied the OS files manually. That was my first OS installation...

My friend had a Voodoo card on his Pentium 100. He was able to play FF7 (PC) on it, and with decent frame rates.

[Neojag]

I Never cared much about PC versions of FFs cause i had a PSX back time :)

[Betamax]

If you think running that running a 3dfx was bad on a p75 you should have tried recording cds on a 486 sx 25 w/ 4mb from the dos command line. Now that was fun.:p Still at least in those days copy protection meant that it was on a cd 'cos you can't make your own you know ;)

The best fun in the good old days was running a game. None of this put a cartidge in the slot lark. Thats for kids. Us real men had to first install the game (from floppies) onto the HDD. Then once this was done we had to setup the soundcard (IO 220 Irq 5 DMA 1 HDMA 5 Midi IO 330-yep I still remember them :D). Finally we ran the game to discover that it was a load of crap and uninstalled it. Back to wolfenstein 3d then :D

Man I miss those days ;)

[Zephon]

Yeah, I remember old DOS games. Graphics were horrible, and I didn't even had a sound card in my 486, so I don't know those game sound config. At least I had a 1mb video card. But what I liked the most was to play snes games with my old zsnes(version 0.3 at that time)

[Neojag]

lol, did they ran kewl? maybe its time to install Zsnes on my 486 :)

[Neojag]

Originally posted by Betamax
If you think running that running a 3dfx was bad on a p75 you should have tried recording cds on a 486 sx 25 w/ 4mb from the dos command line. Now that was fun.:p Still at least in those days copy protection meant that it was on a cd 'cos you can't make your own you know ;)

The best fun in the good old days was running a game. None of this put a cartidge in the slot lark. Thats for kids. Us real men had to first install the game (from floppies) onto the HDD. Then once this was done we had to setup the soundcard (IO 220 Irq 5 DMA 1 HDMA 5 Midi IO 330-yep I still remember them :D). Finally we ran the game to discover that it was a load of crap and uninstalled it. Back to wolfenstein 3d then :D

Man I miss those days ;)

ah, wolfstein 3d :D :D :D that was great, i spent all day killin Nazis lol

[Shadow_Caster]

Yeah. My 486 sx3 66 was damn kewl. it had a blistering 24mb ram, and my old crappy 512k trident card. I miss those days. Nowadays, all you see are these really good looking, but ****ty FPSs, I really miss the old days.... Where has gameplay gone. today its all about graphics.....

[Zephon]

Originally posted by Neojag
lol, did they ran kewl? maybe its time to install Zsnes on my 486 :)

Well, if u have at least 16mb ram, it will run fine. I had 8mb, but as I didn't have sound card, there was a speed improvement.

[Betamax]

Originally posted by Shadow_Caster
Yeah. My 486 sx3 66 was damn kewl. it had a blistering 24mb ram, and my old crappy 512k trident card. I miss those days. Nowadays, all you see are these really good looking, but ****ty FPSs, I really miss the old days.... Where has gameplay gone. today its all about graphics.....

Hence the reason why most of us got involved in emus in the first place:D

[Betamax]

Originally posted by Zephon
Yeah, I remember old DOS games. Graphics were horrible, and I didn't even had a sound card in my 486....

Ah more memories:p My first upgrade was a sb16. I took me 8 hours to put the thing in (man was I naive)
:eyes:

[fivefeet8]

Atleast you guys had a computer to mess with.. All i had was a nintendo.. But after hearing what you guys had to go through, I am sorta glad... I finally got my own computer last year.. Then built one on my own 2 months afterward.. :eyes:

[Neojag]

Originally posted by Betamax


Ah more memories:p My first upgrade was a sb16. I took me 8 hours to put the thing in (man was I naive)
:eyes:

back in those days i was terrified to open my computer :D :D :D

[Zephon]

When I first bought my 486, the first thing I had to do was to open it. That's because the computer had 4MB ram, but I bought 4MB more with the computer(I was the only one that time with 8MB), and the guy of the store told me I had to install it by myself.

[Neojag]

i was 6 years old back in "those days" :p :p :p

[vivi dude]

All of you are talking about your PAST systems, well chekc out the fastest system in my house RIGHT NOW!

Celeron 400
Crappy unknown motherboard
Integrated Crap sound
Integrated modem
192 MG RAM
Voodoo 3000 PCI
Integrated network card
44x cdrom
4 gb HD
1.5 GB HD

[Betamax]

Originally posted by Neojag
i was 6 years old back in "those days" :p :p :p

I got my first one comp back when I was 4. It was an Amstrad cpc 464 w/ 64K ram and a tape drive. Still it had the "Dizzy" games so I was quite content.

[Xeven]

Here's an article at TECHTV. Its a poll about the worst/crappiest computers systems of all time.
The Worst Computers of All Time (http://www.techtv.com/help/hardware/story/0,23008,3312370,00.html) :cool:

[EfrainMan]

Heh, when I got my first computer (P-133, 16MB RAM, 1.2GB HD, crappy 14.4 modem w/sound, integrated S3 video w/1MB VRAM), I thought the RAM was the storage! The guy who was installing it was installing a 15MB program, and I thought, "Oh, my gawd! That'll only leave 1MB of storage!" How's THAT for naiveté :rolleyes: :heh:.

[Neojag]

ah, gud ol days when comps didnt have HD :D :D

[Betamax]

Originally posted by EfrainMan
How's THAT for naiveté :rolleyes: :heh:.

I can go better. In my infinate wisdom whilst tweaking win 3.0 I found some file called system.ini and a directory called system. Hence I thought that this file should be in this directory:heh:. That was the one and only time that I had to get somone else to fix a comp of mine. I decided to make sure I knew everything I could before tweaking anything. Look where it got me:D.

[Shadow_Caster]

heh. Wow, this thread is getting really big. Heres my two cents:
The almighty 486sx2 75 was the best computer of its time. fast, strong, reliable, and so on and so forth. If Intel were to make an equivalent (quality wise) of that pc today, it would rule the market.

[Samor]

Originally posted by Zephon
yeah... I imagine a Pentium75 struggling to start windows... absolutely impossibl a p75 cpu power for video, sound and loading a game at the same time.

sure....it's very good for DOS games though. Runs about everything.

[Samor]

Originally posted by Betamax
If you think running that running a 3dfx was bad on a p75 you should have tried recording cds on a 486 sx 25 w/ 4mb from the dos command line. Now that was fun.:p Still at least in those days copy protection meant that it was on a cd 'cos you can't make your own you know ;)

The best fun in the good old days was running a game. None of this put a cartidge in the slot lark. Thats for kids. Us real men had to first install the game (from floppies) onto the HDD. Then once this was done we had to setup the soundcard (IO 220 Irq 5 DMA 1 HDMA 5 Midi IO 330-yep I still remember them :D). Finally we ran the game to discover that it was a load of crap and uninstalled it. Back to wolfenstein 3d then :D

Man I miss those days ;)

ha...what about uhm..copying a game on 30 disks? I had no cd-burner in my p75, you know ;)
FakeCD worked well on some games too btw ;)

[Samor]

Originally posted by Betamax


Hence the reason why most of us got involved in emus in the first place:D

so true!!!!

-

device=himem.sys dos=high,umb
device=emm386.exe ram
:D

set blaster=a220 i5 d1 h5 t6
;)

[kairi00]

Man I still remembered my first computer.... being able to boot up with more than 600kb free RAM was my ultimate goal at that time (only got 640kb of RAM on my XT 10MHz)... played Police Quest, King's Quest, and lots of the old Sierra adventure games..... man.... brings back memories.

[Samor]

oh ok, with all the memories, now mine ;)

We got a p75 in december 1995. First pc, before that we had a MSX2....oops ;)
Since back then it was still my father's pc my brother and I both got cheap 286's....so I had some time to catch up on old DOS games....yep, in 1996 :D. In 1997 my father was lucky and got a brand new pentium 200 for not too much money. Being the biggest computer freak in the house, I got the p75 for my birthday (YAY :D). Of course within a few months games like Indy Car Racing 2, Destruction Derby, Screamer and Grand Prix 2 were running on it *me a racing game freak?* ....I learned about the pc a lot too, by ruining the installation a few times (who needs a WINDOWS/INF directory anyways?)...IMO that's the best way to learn about a system ;). Since I had experience with the 286 and the p75 still ran many dos games I got pretty good at configging in DOS (still like DOS, probably because it was like MSX-DOS). I even ran windows games (hey, as long as it ran 8fps or more it was good for me). I bought most games for it in 1997 and 1998...however, it was getting slower all the time....so in november 1998 I bought a 3dfx card for it, hoping to let the computer live a little longer. I managed to get F1 Racing Simulation, Turok, Tomb Raider 3 and Fighting Force running on it, but barely. Btw, I was already into emulation for a year by then, but psx was impossible, snes ran barely, genesis ran somewhat and nes and msx emulation were very cool. In 1999 I got my current job and upgraded immediately, ps-emu pro being one of the first programs I installed on my brand new p2 350...back then psemu pro (and bleem too) were awesome emulators. Just the possibility of playing a psx game on your pc alone....! Nowadays the p2 350 is upgraded to a p3 800, it runs most psx games full speed, either on VGS or ePSXe :D
...oops...long story, guess I got carried away ;)

[EfrainMan]

Originally posted by Samor
oh ok, with all the memories, now mine ;)

(blah, blah, blah)

...oops...long story, guess I got carried away ;) Yup, definetly :eyes: :rolleyes: :heh: j/k

Heh, here's another little anecdote: When I installed a Half-Life demo, it took up a lot of space on my 1 gig HD. So I looked in the directory and found this 250MB .pak file, and so I thought "let's delete this". Game crashed in 10 seconds :p .

[Neojag]

I also used FakeCD a lot, it was gr8 :) :) :)

[Shadow_Caster]

I know this probably sounds lame, but WTF is FAkecd?

[Xeven]

it basically served the same purpose as virtual cdroms nowadays, it just used directories instead of isos... if i remember correctly...

[Samor]

yup..and many later games didn't work with it. You could fool win95 with it though, which was funny :D

Oh, that reminds me of the marvelous copy protection in super street fighter 2 turbo for pc (cd-version). The protection was written as plain text and pretty easy to edit with a hex editor ;)

Uh no, I'm not a hacker ;) I did found out how to alter the landscape in the old pc game sopwith though :D

[Betamax]

Kinda reminfds me of the doom 2 installer program. Can't remember the specifics but all you had to so was use a text editor to edit 1 file and be able to make a zip file and viola one professional looking setup for anything you wrote yourself.

[Chriszalide]

Well all i know is that bleem works on the most crappiest systems.

If i'm not mistaken, it was designed to work on a pentium 100 or something like that.

:rolleyes:

[Shadow_Caster]

heh. I miss those good ol days.....

[Samor]

Originally posted by Chriszalide
Well all i know is that bleem works on the most crappiest systems.

If i'm not mistaken, it was designed to work on a pentium 100 or something like that.

:rolleyes:

well, it would probably boot yes...and maybe get 5 frames per second too, but that's about it.

[Neojag]

i still have my 486 up 'n running w/ all those old games :) :D

[Shadow_Caster]

Damn! Bleem does work on crappy systems. Im getting 7 fps on GT!!!!!!!!! WoooHoooo!!!!!. only problem is, My trident keeps overheating, and sound isint too good :)