we love diversity!

[Samor]

I think bhmotorsports today takes the cake; not only is the site focused at one main genre called "sim racing" (which is actually a sub genre from just "racing games"), but they go even further now *see screenshot* ;)
I guess there's a market for these games, heh :p


*note: I'm not trying to pick on bhmotorsports here; I like the site a lot; just thought this was fun ;)

[Kaiser Sigma]

Rally games ? Sim racings games ?

Kaiser Sigma shivers, the only racing game that he can plays are NFS and arcade racing ones (Daytona, RR, etc)... ;)

[Samor]

but look at the diversity! you can drive with a mithubishi lancer evo with either 10000, 12000 or 13500 polys ! :p

[Kaiser Sigma]

I'm beginning to see some resemblance between a FF adept and you :p

[Samor]

hm...but at least I'm being sarcastic about it ;)

[Sir Key]

samor rocks

[Kaiser Sigma]

hm...but at least I'm being sarcastic about it ;)

As long as you don't fall to the charms of RPGs we will be fine... the same could be applied to rally games ;)

[Gamer1]

the only racing game i am willing to play now a days is mario kart. i hate gran turismo, and other racing games now, just too boring.

[RF]

Just like skateboarding and bmx games :rolleyes:

Whats next? :D

[cloudvii]

i'm not into rally games (long and boring) , sorry Samor .

[Xinu0]

Just like skateboarding and bmx games :rolleyes:

Whats next? :D
Mmmm I cant wait to squareroot a million points in that game.... :lol:

[Samor]

i'm not into rally games (long and boring) , sorry Samor .

hm..I'm not even that much myself :p ....surely I'm not gonna get all 3 of those... ;)

[cloudvii]

i tried collin mcrae rally before , but it was booooring and i wanted to sleeeeeep much befooooore i .......... zzzzzzzzzz

[kougaiji]

sega RALLY
thatS THE only one i tried。。。。

i dont like things too sim
sim flight, sim racing, sim city...

[Kane]

I quite like Rally games, but only arcade ones, like Sega Rally 2 or Screamer Rally

[Kaiser Sigma]

Ditto, those 2 are the only ones that I liked... but just as you have said, those are more of an arcade rally games rather than sims so that explains why I liked them ;)

[Samor]

well, gotta admit, the power slides you can do in said games are kind of cool ;)

[cloudvii]

yes sega rally 1&2 were cool . (sega rally1 was one of sega old games which had that funny english accent of japanese trying to act like americans)

Time extension :D

[Radix865]

rally games... I don't think rally games usually are worth of a money... they are usually SOOOOO boring!!! you go trough couple of first races and you already know almost everything about it... Not always, but usually...

[Samor]

well, yeah...sometimes they can be almost as boring as an rpg.

[cloudvii]

well , in rpg u always want to know what will happen next , while in racing games u know what'll happen next (another same looking lap) and in rally games it's just turn right , turn left (and again and again) ..... zzzzzzzzz

CRASH
A: huh , what happened ?
B: I told u never to sleep while driving , u idiot
A: sorry

(no offence ofcourse , i'm just in a good mood now)

[Samor]

hm.. heh.
rpg = press a few buttons and win a fight? ;)

[Kaiser Sigma]

Indeed, let's face it... leveling up is about button mashing, in fact I doubt that ppl care to watch the battle, most likely they are looking at some other thing while they earn xp points (I for one, do that) ;)

[Radix865]

Well... RPG's aren't everyones favourite, but they are mine... and uh, there are other RPG's than hack & slash, so theres more to it than just battles... some even have a story....

[Kaiser Sigma]

FF games have, most of the time, a great plot. That being said, the battles are nothing more than a mere button mashing until it's finished... strategy is something that is lost since long ago...

[Samor]

Well... RPG's aren't everyones favourite, but they are mine... and uh, there are other RPG's than hack & slash, so theres more to it than just battles... some even have a story....

and just like that rally games are more than just crashing ;)

I'm just playing the ball back :p

[cloudvii]

well ff boss battles requires great strategies

[Samor]

so? in rally games you dont just press forward either; otherwise that would explain all the crashes ;)

[cloudvii]

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so? in rally games you dont just press forward either; otherwise that would explain all the crashes ;)
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yes , i press "escape" too , to quit :)

(joking) , OK u win
may be i said that because i can't play rally games , not that they're bad or something

[Radix865]

well... okay, but how many times have you started a rally game all over again?? and in some rpg's even in ff's there is a need for stragegies, for example FFX you need to use differen't characters to beat some bosses...Oh, and I won't be wondering if you don't like rpg's if you only smash one button in a battle...

[Samor]

well.... I try to improve times in racing games; that's one of the fun things; you're basically never done with a racer.
as for rpg's....so , you mean I have to come up with strategies even if theyre not nescesary or something? ;)
Oh, and I won't be wondering if you don't like rally games if you only push the gas button in a race.

[Radix865]

I said racing games are boring and that they usually have nothing new to start again... oh... I have a racing wheel for a PS2, and I'm going to buy NFSU, but until now there has been no rally game that I really wanted to start over... and besides in rpg's the battle isn't all, at least in ff's the story is the most important...

[Samor]

I said racing games are boring and that they usually have nothing new to start again..

like I just said; never heard of improving your times?


. oh... I have a racing wheel for a PS2, and I'm going to buy NFSU, but until now there has been no rally game that I really wanted to start over... and besides in rpg's the battle isn't all, at least in ff's the story is the most important...

well,
1) for stories I read a book or a watch movie
2) if the story is the most important, does that mean the gameplay is insignificant?
3) after you know the story, I recon there wouldnt me much reason to play it again anytime soon.

[Kaiser Sigma]

well ff boss battles requires great strategies

They do ? Since FFVII all I do is keep pressing the buttons in order to finish the enemies quick (enemies and bosses alike)... asides from the weapons and Ozma in FFIX, FF games are rather dull when it comes to battle... Rally games are still (IMO) less button mashers ;)

[cloudvii]

then u sure missed some difficult bosses (Diablo ffviii , fujin and raijin (they were hard when i played the no junction game) ffviii , the robot spider thing ffviii (how can anyone beat it , i knew some did , but how ? ) , hades ffix , demon book ffix)
i don't remember all of them now .

but u r right , as ff games depends mostly on story more than battles .
while CT or FFT were beter as strategy in battles was a must

[Kaiser Sigma]

Well, as I've said there are exceptions but those are the less (and yes, the ones you mentioned are good examples). However leveling up (for example) has become button mashing... when was the last time that you cared to see what was going on on a normal battle ? Most of the times you just keep pressing the buttons until you are on the world map screen again ;)

[Radix865]

improving times... ahh... let's see... best times almost every track on NFS 4, got bored... And in some games I really got bored of driving the same track again, again, again, again and so on... I've played racing games, but I still think they are boring... and for leveling in rpg's... you don't have to try level up all the time... leveling is boring...

[Xeven]

sim racing and all that bull****, they're not that fun to me anyhow. I'd rather play street types (i.e. nfs underground) or arcade types, where the concern of the game is not realism nor the degree of difficulty but rather old school FUN™.. Not saying sim racers are not fun, but when i play games i'd rather be a bit more relaxed rather busting a gut coz i just missed a track :p On a sidenote, i'd rather play manual as well, even my own car has manual gear shift, coz i find automatic to be too boring and i might just fall asleep while on a long drive or something. :heh:

[Samor]

hm, well, in a good sim (emphasize on good), its actually rewarding and fun to develop a good driving style; you could take that as good gameplay.

[Kaiser Sigma]

sim racing and all that bull****, they're not that fun to me anyhow.

World Circuit/Grand Prix 2 anyone ? You had to spend like 5-8 minutes configuring your car settings before starting a race :onthepull

[cloudvii]

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However leveling up (for example) has become button mashing... when was the last time that you cared to see what was going on on a normal battle ? Most of the times you just keep pressing the buttons until you are on the world map screen again ;)
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u r totally right :)

guys , loving and hating sim/rally games is a matter of opinions .
well , may be because i love big action and little strategy , i hate it , but again the genre has gigantic number of fans ;)

[Xeven]

hm, well, in a good sim (emphasize on good), its actually rewarding and fun to develop a good driving style; you could take that as good gameplay.Well you'd have to in order to survive a sim race game. And i would think that's on of the major emphasis of sim driving. That you have to be good at "driving". Take for example GT3, it's a great game by all means, but i was only able to finish up to 40 or prolly 50% of it. It took me literally months just to get to that amount of race percentage. I was pretty damn good with "driving" in the game too, but the degree of difficulty also increases exponentially as the races progress so i just gave up. It was just no fun at that point anyhow. My brother he's more of the psychopath racing gamer. So he finished that game 100%, he spent a hell of a lot of time tuning and testing those damned cars too. I guess as usual when it gets right down to it, its all depends on what's fun to you. :heh:

Forgot to mention he finished the game 100% 3 times. :heh:

[Takmadeus]

Forgot to mention he finished the game 100% 3 times.

That's way too much time ;)

Well... RPGs aren't that much of button mashing... actually everytime you are in the middle of the game (say Guadosalam in ffx, Cd2 in ffvii, etc.) then you have to use all your strategy potential..... why?, it is easy, because at those moments you have plenty of abilities to use, plus, your characters aren't developed enough as to keep using the "attack" command.

I'll put you an example.... I am currently playing ffx, I am trying to beat Braska's final aeon, and let me tell you that it is a titanic task, as my strongest character is Auron, with 4300 hp..... it means that it is a damn hard battle, as it deals a great damage, and when it pops up its (damn) sword, it kills my allies with one hit.... now you get mny point... in moments like those strategy is what counts....

PD: I haven't been able to beat it yet :p I guess I must think another strategy....

[total_hatred]

o come on
sim racing is bit repeatitive
I wish they create more challenging tracks
I have decent driving skills
i want more challenge

[Xeven]

I'll put you an example.... I am currently playing ffx, I am trying to beat Braska's final aeon, and let me tell you that it is a titanic task, as my strongest character is Auron, with 4300 hp..... it means that it is a damn hard battle, as it deals a great damage, and when it pops up its (damn) sword, it kills my allies with one hit.... now you get mny point... in moments like those strategy is what counts....

PD: I haven't been able to beat it yet :p I guess I must think another strategy....nah, you just suck you maggot. :p The only challenge ever offered to me by FFX was the challenge NOT to fall asleep :p

[Samor]

Forgot to mention he finished the game 100% 3 times. :heh:

wow. madskillz eh? ;)

[Samor]

o come on
sim racing is bit repeatitive
I wish they create more challenging tracks
I have decent driving skills
i want more challenge

then you should try to find a racing game that can be played against others online. Pretty sure you'll find a lot of challenge there ;)

[Takmadeus]

nah, you just suck you maggot. The only challenge ever offered to me by FFX was the challenge NOT to fall asleep

hey.... but I am using the lightspeed method to finish it (it is finishing it in like 30 hours)

it is too hard, given the fact that I have lousy armor and weapons...

[didamangi]

Just put all of your aeons to overdrive before the final battle Takmadeus, then summon all of them on the final battle, braska has no chance ;) (I finished FFX in about 35 hours)

I myself enjoy both good rpg and racing sims, it all depends on the game, if its good enough then I'll play them.

My record on racing sims is probably taking a full 60 or so lap in the game F1 by Psygnosis with a generic 4 button digital gamepad, sore thumb afterwards.

[total_hatred]

problem Samor
My internet connection sucks
people here are remotely interested in racing sims
I am tired kicking my friends' ass

[Takmadeus]

Just put all of your aeons to overdrive before the final battle Takmadeus, then summon all of them on the final battle, braska has no chance (I finished FFX in about 35 hours)


I know..... I tried that... but those damn yu Pagodas kept heling him :(

[Radix865]

ah... those pagodas... strike them... and they stop... I think... I didn't have to... my characters were 9999hp and damage above 50000... so it was EASY...

[total_hatred]

that's if the RPG is reaally bad
chances are 36% I think