Satourne Difficulties

[Ultrace]

I'm sure that this is all old hat here, but I've never actually successfully gotten Satourne to run on my computer. The closest I've come is with the new version that just came out, but I get the following messages when I first start the program:

Loading Configuration
Saturn bios loaded
No STV bios loaded, invalid path <-- don't need to play these
SH2 interpreter dubugger plugin: initialisation OK!
VDP OpenGL plugin: initialisation OK!
VDP1 core v1.1
VDP2 core v1.2
SMPC plugin: initialisation OK!
ASPI CD block plugin v1.0B: initialisation OK!
SCU plugin: initialisation OK!
SCSP musashi a68k plugin: initialisation OK!
Mode: Saturn
Can't initialise emulation:
Saturn reset
Initialisation done
Can't initialise emulation:
ClockChange 320 requested

I am running on WinXP in Win95 compatibility mode and using all of the new included plugins but without any luck. I have no idea what the error message I receive means either. Anyone have any suggestions?

[Serath]

Make sure you select the game you're gonna play through the CD block configuration, then manually set the game's country code under the SMPC config.
that's what I've gotta do to mine :/

[Ultrace]

Okay, so that was part of the problem, and part of it was me thinking that "reset" would automatically mean "run." Now, I'm finding out what I should have known already from here, that my games can't run from their CD originals... I've made an iso of Dragon Force, but I'm not sure about the nuances of making cue files and the other assorted things I need to put on an iso CD. Can anyone point me to a good site or post?

Ironically, I'm in the position of having lots of original Saturn games but can't emulate them on my computer, it's usually the other way around...

[aimonz]

select an ST-V bios: no matter what.
Try selecting the normal saturn bios.

[Mimeblade]

I had to post in this thread since I've got the same problem. I've got STV Bios, I've been trying to match up the US Bios--> US Settings in SMPC Config, as well as Jap Bios-->Jap Region, and Euro Bios-->Euro Region,

No matter what I do it just says "ClockChange 320 Requested"

It's getting really frustrating. Everything else has loaded properly. :hdbash:

[General Plot]

Wow, way to revive a thread that's over 2 years old. Next time, check the date of the last post before you reply.;)

[Cid Highwind]

Reviving ain't a problem as long as it's about the same problem AFAIK, and at least it shows he used the search function :)

[liquid]

If you want to play STV games, then you should really use MAME. STV emulation in MAME has improved leaps and bounds over the past 3 years. Games such as Radiant Silvergun are fully playable with good speed, and nearly perfect graphics.

Also you won't have to bang your head on the wall tweaking settings.

[RockmanForte]

Just forget this crap...get SSF :)

[Runik]

Just forget this crap...get SSF :)
It's nice to see supporting people :rolleyes:

[Shin_Gouki]

bah dont get depressed by something like that, its just a statement of a user who doesn'T know what effort u put into this.

Of course i know doesn't meant it that way but people tend to forget this really fast so here i sum up:
* Emu Coding is hard , (boring?) work, the Coder does NOT get paid for it
* high skills are necessary like : Reverse Engenering unkown Hardware Plattforms ( Console to be Emualted) , Coding a Framework for Emulation this Hardware, Code Audio - Video Interfaces towards PC - Hardware & OS.
so -_-
This is extremely hard to do and as u might think progress is rather slow as most emu authors seem to work alone.
Slappy Comments like the one two above. Don't help much . ( Although i think comments like: go for it!! yeah do it! U can Do it! WOOHA i LIKE THIS! ... either help much but thats personal taste :)
wbr Shin Gouki

[Borisz]

Reverse Engenering unkown Hardware Plattforms
The Saturn is not unknown hardware. Only complex.

[liquid]

Just forget this crap...get SSF :)

Err...SSF does not support STV-roms.

[Runik]

The Saturn is not unknown hardware. Only complex.
Some ships ARE undocumented. Low level cdblock emulation isn't possible, you have to go through HLE ...

@Shin_Gouki : thanks for your words, but Satourne isn't my work :p But I think that every emu coder should be shown support, no matter what is the emulated system or the progress made ... personnally I don't care if people doesn't like my work, as I do it for myself in the first place, but being supportive is pleasant anyway ;)

And liquid is right about ST-V support in SSF :)

[RockmanForte]

Runik,

I am sure they didnt say that. I think you are very wonderful author doing this work in emulator and I hope you will continue your works to caught up like SSF author does and I envy you. Cheers and peace! :)

[Borisz]

Some ships ARE undocumented. Low level cdblock emulation isn't possible, you have to go through HLE ...
point is: theres plenty of things to add support for just by going through the documentations before having to start reverse engineering an unknown hardware part.

[Runik]

point is: theres plenty of things to add support for just by going through the documentations before having to start reverse engineering an unknown hardware part.
Mmmmh ... yeah. Tell me how many saturn games can boot without proper cdblock implementation ? :rolleyes:

[Borisz]

Define proper.

[Runik]

Stop being an ass Borisz ...

[Borisz]

No, I'm really interested in your definition for it.

[Kaseryn]

Hi Runik.. i'm made all the recommended chnaged but am still getting the opcode error when trying to run Shining the Holy Ark, either from disc or bin/cue image. Both are US.. i've seen the tip about setting region manually then restarting Satourne, however.. with the latest version it seems that whenever you restart Satourne region has gone back to auto? Any way to force that to stick or is there something else i'm missing? Thanks :)

[Runik]

I'm sorry, but I don't have this game, so I can't help you ...
Try different plug-ins, but if it still doesn't work the game isn't supported for now ...

[JKKDARK]

you can try with the SSF emulator;) you can run more games in SSF than satourne

[Kaseryn]

Well see, that's the thing. I read somewhere else on a forum someone had Shining the Holy Ark working.. so i think it's a supported game. Oh well, i'll try some other games and see what happens. What about the region setting? It seems to default to auto everytime you start satourne?

[JKKDARK]

nop. but put the correct bios/region for that game. if the game doesn´t work, try other games, or use other emulators;)

do you tried that game in SSF?

[Kaseryn]

SSF isn't working for me either. It says it can't read wnaspi32.dll even though i've copied it to root dir ...

[Runik]

I guess it's normal for the region mode to go back to auto ... let it that way :)

[Kaseryn]

Ah well sodit. I have a chipped Saturn anyway, i was just curious really to see how the emulators were coming along.. getting there by the look of things! :) Good work Runik .. btw, is your name taken from the Haruchai of same name?

[RockmanForte]

SSF isn't working for me either. It says it can't read wnaspi32.dll even though i've copied it to root dir ...

Put it in the system 32 folder or install wnaspi32:

http://radified.com/ASPI/forceaspi.htm

[Runik]

Instead of forceaspi, use wnaspi32.dll from Nero.
You can grab it here : http://www.nero.com/nero6/en/WNASPI32.DLL.html
Put this file into your Satourne folder ;)

@Kaseryn : I'm using this name on internet since 1995, and I don't even know what Haruchai is :p
And btw I'm not Satourne author, I'm a good friend of him, but my emu is Saturnin ;)

[Kaseryn]

Instead of forceaspi, use wnaspi32.dll from Nero.
You can grab it here : http://www.nero.com/nero6/en/WNASPI32.DLL.html
Put this file into your Satourne folder


I did, but no luck..



@Kaseryn : I'm using this name on internet since 1995, and I don't even know what Haruchai is
And btw I'm not Satourne author, I'm a good friend of him, but my emu is Saturnin


Ahhh ok :) Spelt slightly differently but there's a character called Runnik in The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, a brilliant fantasy series.