wow.....n64 sucks!

[james.miller]

The real n64 that is. I finally got my ntsc n64 up and running again today (long story - i didnt have a ntcs-compatible t.v until yesterday). My findings were, well, shocking. I booted up Perfect dark (widely know as one of the best looking games on the n64) and i was greated with low-res, washed-out textures with a view-distance of a few feet at the most. SHOCKING. Granted, the light effects were better then anything an emulator can do right now, but the rest i just couldnt believe. Not just the bad graphics either, but the obvious slowdowns that just arnt there when emulated on my pc.

Here is a game that i spent the best part of a month-solid playing when i brought it, and now i cant bare to play it for more than 5 minutes on a "real" n64. i was thoroughly disapointed. So, i tried mariokart64, to see if that would fair any better. It did - the 2d sprites (trees, the karts ect.) were easily better than their emulated counterparts - but i was greated by the same poor view-distance and general block,washed-out look.


I dont know about anybody else, but i doubt im going to be using my n64 anymore. Emulation has far surpassd the real thing, IMHO.

[OK-OK]

Nothing beats playing a console game with a console on your couch.

[james.miller]

except playing the same game emulated on my pc on the couch lol

[zerocopy]

i only spent 4 hrs. max on my n64 then i sold it and bought some psx gamess

[OK-OK]

Amen to that, PSX forever! (and Dreamcast)

[Aleksei (St)]

have yu tried Zelda OoT it is a really good game it has good movements for a 32M catridge

[Yeloazndevil]

well what do u expect from the N64, with its massive use of bi-linear filtering which made everything extremly blurry, but for some reason I never noticed that I was so into Zelda OoT when it 1st came out to notice it anymore, but then I payed it through emulation and it looked good and I played a game on a real N64 and I couldn't play it anymore the I sold it for a Dreamcast ;)

[Dark Zero]

This is what happens when we get spoiled with pertier graphics ;)

[felinusz]

I agree with you james.miller. If you have an adaptoid, a large-screen moniter, and a decent video card (like yours :) ) then the computer easily is superior to the actual console on a normal TV. The games are really quite cludgy to play when you're used to 1024x768 rez w/ filtering and such. Even the NG consoles are limited by the Televisions crappy rez and refresh... which is why hi-def TV is catching on.


If you have a crummy comp however, the console is easily better...

[james.miller]

i compared them directly - i have both my pc and my n64 connected through my yamaha rx-v630 A/V amp so i could switch from pc>>n64 at the touch of a button. the difference is incredible.

[Dark Zero]

Yeah, this is like the times when you remember a really old game that you loved, and then you decide to play it recently, and realize THE HELL WAS SO GOOD? I hate these things sometimes. Same thing with graphics, you thought the looked good, but then look again and they are horrible, but this goes without saying, we get spoiled with newer fancy looking games.

[felinusz]

We have to realize that a standard Television resoloution is lower than 640 x 480 in most cases, sometimes equal to that... we are used to 1024 x 768 with filtering and FSAA. Try running PJ with that crappy of a resoloution, with all of the filters off. And crap up your monitor ahead of time so that it is all fuzzy and ugly. THAT is the *real* N64 expierience :p

[james.miller]

felinusz - i directly compared the two on the same t.v. eveen 640x480 without fsaa owns the n64.

[felinusz]

I wonder why that would be? Technically if the filtration is off, and the rezoloution is the same, they should look identical...
*BUT* the real N64 doesn't have a modded 9500 now does it? :p Serusly though, it probably has something to do with the buffer.

SNES is the same way, I can't play my old SNES games any more after ZSNES and 2xSAI...

[Aleksei (St)]

what if we could insert a radeon 9500 modded into a nintendo 64 the result were really awesome we should remember the year of release of the nin64 1996 something like vodoo 1~2 times

[XXL3lit3]

Originally posted by james.miller
except playing the same game emulated on my pc on the couch lol

First off good point with the statement above ;) , now the only reason you dislike the n64 today is it seems that you never played the n64 before lately, so your used to the higher end consoles of today, though back in the day the n64 was amazeing when it was first released, hell so was the NES when it first was released. Now you look at those games and go errrr.

[james.miller]

i used to use my n64 a hell of a lot. loved it. itsfrom japan, but plays american games, and im in the u.k lol

i love it, but i cant stand it anymore

[frippe]

nintendo 64 is much better then xbox

[Kane]

>nintendo 64 is much better then xbox

Where you get that idea from I'll never know. The only games on the N64 which I can bring myself to play are Conker's BFD and Goldeneye (if only for the multiplayer). The X-Box has Orta, Shenmue, DoA and Halo to name but a few.

[felinusz]

Plus, the N64 is one of the worst cases of a a console with a mainly rehashed game library. There are so few original games for the N64 that are actually *good* that I can probably count them on my fingers (give or take a few). We all kind of get tired of Mario, , Mario Kart, Mario games in general, Donkey Kong, and Pokemon (I never liked those stupid Pokemon ;) ) after awhile, it doesn't mean that the games are bad; merely 'less-good' because of unoriginality.

At least the PS2 and XBOX have some innovation going on, I can't honestly say that for the N64, let alone the NGC; regardless of how fun the games are to play they aren't original at all - which is something I personally look for in games.

However, the N64 game library *does* offer some of the greatest game sound-tracks of all time. Most of them still compete with the 'next-gen' console game sound-tracks IMHO.

[Kane]

It occours to me that there isn't such a thing as a 'humble' opinion (IMHO). Anyways, I disagree with you on the OST point. There isn't one game OST from the N64 that I would have in my music library, compared to about 20 or so from the PSX and PS2

[felinusz]

Originally posted by Lord Kane
It occours to me that there isn't such a thing as a 'humble' opinion (IMHO). Anyways, I disagree with you on the OST point. There isn't one game OST from the N64 that I would have in my music library, compared to about 20 or so from the PSX and PS2

Well than, IMBIYFO (In My Brash, In Your Face Opinion) some of the N64 game soundtracks are just superb. Listen to some of the music from Banjo-Kazzoie (sure it is childish, but it is SUCH well done childish music), The Zelda games I admit it gets annoying after awhile), some of the racing games, really ALL of Rarewares games, and even some of the tracks from Mrio 64 are decent (the underwater levels have such cleanly made music)

Thats my view on it, although admittedly PSX has more games with good music, The N64 offers some real gems that should still be viewed as great today.