MGS2 SUBSTANCE PC: Any news?

[BaD_BURN]

Am I the only one waiting for this release or what? There hasn't been any word on the game for quite some time now. Konami's website says it'll be out this month but no specific date.

[Yeloazndevil]

IIRC the release date was moved to April and I am waiting for the pc release

[shahzaib]

it is in april but it has come on ps2 and xbox

[Shiori]

It's only for another month. ^_^ I need to play Xenosaga first anyway. :p

[Drack]

Originally posted by shahzaib
it is in april but it has come on ps2 and xbox

Correction; the game is already out for the Xbox, but the US release date for the PS2 version for Substance is 3/4/03.

[Valeron]

Substance coming to PC? wow ...tho haven played any of thr MGS series. :)

[Hanamichi]

You should start off with MGS1. Screw graphics, hail the gameplay and storyline. :)

[Syed Fawad]

Screw graphics?

Those were one of the best I had seen on the psx!

[Hanamichi]

Not on the PC. ;)

[Syed Fawad]

Screw PC version then :p

[Valeron]

Han borrowed me the game b4...but due to its screwed grafiks...i didnt play for more than 5min..haha

[Hanamichi]

Oh stop the screwin' and start playin'. :D
I guarantee ye, MGS has one of the most solid storyline's you'll ever come across for a game of its genre, heck, probably even for all genres. Forget about Morrowind's graphics for once. ;)

[Alias]

MGS 2 is supposed to come out this month (march) according to Gamespot: http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2911308,00.html

3/18/2003 is what they say.

[Zell]

Release date for PC America was 22/02/2003 ! I don't now anything more .

[Yeloazndevil]

Originally posted by Alias
MGS 2 is supposed to come out this month (march) according to Gamespot: http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2911308,00.html

3/18/2003 is what they say.
I checked www.ebgames.com and the release date is 3/18/2003 and its $39.99

[Asz]

The release date for PC is getting changed more then my underware. First it was 2/18 then I saw 3/5 and now 3/18 and then sometime in April??? WHERE THE HELL IS MY MGS2 YOU HOEEEEEEEEEEEEE KONAMI~!?!?!?!?!>!!!

[Modem]

Konami says:

Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance M Mar. 2003
So it would appear that late March is it.

[Zell]

Could be !

[Samor]

Originally posted by Fawad
Screw PC version then :p

looks better than on PSX though :p

[Carnage]

ah....mgs on psx,I just finished it!my codename is CAT;) Anyway,it is kinda strange that liquid snake can survive all those things...

[Drack]

Yes, lets review all the times you kill liquid in MGS. You blow up his helicopter, destroy the cockpit of Metal Gear of which he is in, throw him off the top of metal gear, shoot him multiple times, and then he is blown up by a massive bombing of the area. Still his arm still survives to be put on Revolver Ocelot.

[Kazuya]

Thanks for the spolier about ocelot. I have not played metal gear solid 2¡¡¡¡¡¡

[Drack]

Whoops sorry about that but don't worry, its not THAT big of a spoiler. You find that out in the first half-hour of the game.

[Kazuya]

Well, im a little relieved. Btw, i just checked the trailer of the E3 (i think) of mgs2 and Ocelot appears with two hands¡ I Just didn't remember (and i though it was due some sort of operation but nothing referring to Liquid).

[REi_FoX]

just stick to splinter cell for a while

[Adair]

Originally posted by Drack
Yes, lets review all the times you kill liquid in MGS. You blow up his helicopter, destroy the cockpit of Metal Gear of which he is in, throw him off the top of metal gear, shoot him multiple times, and then he is blown up by a massive bombing of the area. Still his arm still survives to be put on Revolver Ocelot.
More MGS1 spoilers:
Don't forget about being hurled out of a speeding jeep(even though that seems like nothing compared to some of the other stuff he survives), but none of that actually killed him. If it wasn't for Naomi and the Fox Die nano-virus Liquid would've gotten up and stomped Snake's head into the ground. Well, probably not, but we'll never know what the outcome would've been if the Fox Die hadn't kicked in at that crucial moment. It certainly made it seem like Liquid had a huge advantage since Snake's legs were trapped under a jeep and no guns in reach.

[Carnage]

to think liquid had the bad genes...then just think of what solid snake could survive:D anyway,does that codename thingy have any meaning??(the codename you get at the scorescreen when you finish the game)

[Raziel]

Originally posted by Drack
Yes, lets review all the times you kill liquid in MGS. You blow up his helicopter, destroy the cockpit of Metal Gear of which he is in, throw him off the top of metal gear, shoot him multiple times, and then he is blown up by a massive bombing of the area. Still his arm still survives to be put on Revolver Ocelot.
Actualy, the bombing doesn't occur, the colonel manages to cancel it once the Minister of Defense gets removed of his functions.

[Raziel]

Originally posted by Carnage
to think liquid had the bad genes...then just think of what solid snake could survive:D anyway,does that codename thingy have any meaning??(the codename you get at the scorescreen when you finish the game)
Hmm, in fact, if you listen to the very last dialogue between Ocelot & Solidus at the end of MGS, you learn that Solid Snake is the one with the inferior genes, not Liquid.

[Carnage]

Originally posted by Raziel

Hmm, in fact, if you listen to the very last dialogue between Ocelot & Solidus at the end of MGS, you learn that Solid Snake is the one with the inferior genes, not Liquid.
....isn't that what I said:confused:

[Adair]

Originally posted by Carnage
to think liquid had the bad genes...then just think of what solid snake could survive:D anyway,does that codename thingy have any meaning??(the codename you get at the scorescreen when you finish the game)

^^ Nope you said liquid had the bad genes. ^^

But it doesn't seem to make that much of a difference. Snake is a match for Liquid anytime, anyplace.

I'm just waiting for Kojima to make a sequel where they announce another clone brother who has the most inferior genes and is code named Flaccid (http://www.yourdictionary.com/ahd/f/f0157700.html) Snake.

[Asz]

Hehehe, how about Gaseous Snake? :p

[Drack]

I bet the new inferior snake will be "Flaccid" in the bedroom ;). Easily defeated by a Solid uhhhh, you get the idea. We'll find out why they call him SOLID snake.

[Kazuya]

Thats a good story to some xxx movie... :)
We can even know the preferences of Otacon. Although we should know them by now.

[Adair]

Originally posted by Kazuya Mishima
Thats a good story to some xxx movie... :)
We can even know the preferences of Otacon. Although we should know them by now. Are you implying he's g**? I bet he's not. He's probably obsessed with anime girls just as much as some of the regulars around here are.
Originally posted by Asz
Hehehe, how about Gaseous Snake? :p I was glad that Kojima chose Solidus over Gaseous. I guess Gaseous would'nt have really made sense though because Solidus was supposed to have all the strengths of Solid and Liquid.
BTW I thought that Solidus was made after the other two...so why does he look so much older. Maybe the stress of a life in war and politics aged him beyond his years.
Originally posted by Drack
I bet the new inferior snake will be "Flaccid" in the bedroom ;). Easily defeated by a Solid uhhhh, you get the idea. We'll find out why they call him SOLID snake.
Yeah that's pretty much where I was going with that joke. It cracks me up to think about Snake yelling out Flaccid's name the way he does with Liquid practically every time he sees him.

"FLAAAACCIIIIID"

Maybe it would be even funnier if Snake developed Flaccid as an alter ego.

[Kazuya]

I thought he was, i dont remember why, gotta play it again.

[Carnage]

last time I played mgs1 otacon was in love with a women...

[Adair]

Oh yeah, that's right. Otacon loved Sniper Wolf. He gave Snake a handkerchief that she had and it protected Snake from the wolves.
I always wanted the wolves to come eat her body like the ravens did with Vulcan Raven. :evil:

[caipirinha]

ok it´s out, and it´s dvd only, don´t ask me why konami made it this way, i think it´s nice as i hate those multi disk installations, but they´ll lose many buyers around the world.

$39,90 USD ouch for me :/ , i want this badly.... maybe my father can find it in japan, someone tell me if it´s available in japan plz.

http://www.konami.com/substance/

[Asz]

MGS2: Substance is so big that they have to use a dual-layer DVD, imagine an 8 CD install instead...

[Syed Fawad]

Holy mama! this means that PC users MUST have DVD roms? :eek:

[Kazuya]

Yes, it does, great i just bought one two months ago.
And about Otacon, yes you are right she was in love with Sniper Wolf. My brother recalled me the time i thought that way about him: i got the good ending first and the the one with otacon and Snake, then i said otacon looked a little strange (he used almost the same words Meryl used and if she looked so in love when saying those words...) Anyway just forget what i said.

[Adair]

Doh, would've picked this up today had I known i was out.
I'll get it tomorrow and post some pics.

[grahf]

Originally posted by Adair
Doh, would've picked this up today had I known i was out.
I'll get it tomorrow and post some pics.

No the PC version is not out yet. What he meant to say was MGS2:S for PS2 was out. The PC version is still on track for May 18.

[caipirinha]

then why the ads on gaming sites and the site on my previous post say it´s out?
they say available for xbox ps2 and dvd-rom
go on amazon they have it .

and guys help, where can i find info about a possible japanese release of the pc version? and if it has text and english subtitles?
plz guys i really want this one.

[Carnage]

relax,I'm sure it will comeout in the us and europe

[caipirinha]

but i don´t live in us and europe, my father is in japan now and will stay there for a month. imports are too expensive here, so he buying there would be cheaper and easier.
and btw it is out in us already

[Yeloazndevil]

Originally posted by Asz
MGS2: Substance is so big that they have to use a dual-layer DVD, imagine an 8 CD install instead... finally pc games are starting to use DVD's instead of CD's

[Raziel]

Originally posted by yeloazndevil
finally pc games are starting to use DVD's instead of CD's
Yeah, and it's a good thing, that way, it'll accelerate the instalations of DVD drives, and we'll get more games on DVDs(which means bonsues, higher res videos and such ^^).

[Yeloazndevil]

yay more things with DVD-Roms good thing I got a dvd-rom drive ^_^

[Raziel]

Yeah, looks like my DVD drive will finally have some real work to do, cause since I got a DVD player hooked to my TV, I haven't been watching lot of DVDs on my PC :)

[Yeloazndevil]

yea I don't use my DVD-rom drive either except for making ISO's with it, I'll finally have a use for it once I buy MGS2 :)

[caipirinha]

the xbox version wasn´t released on japan because of the small install base, heh the pc user base must be even smaller, i guess i´m out of luck :)
and yeah it was about time pc games get released on dvd, in the beginning of the cd no one complained about the cd version of games they would just go out and buy the drive

[Raziel]

Originally posted by caipirinha
the xbox version wasn´t released on japan because of the small install base, heh the pc user base must be even smaller, i guess i´m out of luck :)
and yeah it was about time pc games get released on dvd, in the beginning of the cd no one complained about the cd version of games they would just go out and buy the drive
Well, looks like your only chance is to check for import sites, though it'll cost you more than buying it in a store :/

[caipirinha]

yeah :) too bad i don´t have the money myself, my father will never give a family´s whole salary on a single game

[Shadow_Cast]

GameSpot is notorious for shoddy release dates (anyone see the morrowind on PS2 preorders?) oh, and Shiori, you want to watch Xeonosaga

[REi_FoX]

where are you snakE!!!

[Carnage]

God I hate it when you die and they yell your name...

[Adair]

Snake?..Snake, answer me? SNAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!!:shout: :cry:

[Carnage]

never pressed the o-button so much as when they started screaming...btw:when you get totrured and you have to press some button very rapidly,I can't seem to do it the last time...any tips?

[Alias]

? you must mean the first MGS. Try this controller damaging trick:

take a pen with its cap on (preferrably rounded or curved) and run it back and forth over the button as quickly as you can.

For me, I can do it by pressing normally pretty easily. I'm just that good. :p

[Adair]

I did basically what Alias suggested about the pen, but I just used my fingernail. Luckily the PS2 controller buttons are curved in a way so you can just rub back and forth real fast.
I never did like the button tapping parts though; seems like a dumb way to represent struggling for breath.

MGS2 spoiler:
I got through the second "button tapping" scene in MGS2 on extreme difficulty without losing any life with that method:)

[caipirinha]

you can also get your shirt , cover your finger with it and rub it really fast on the controller.
but i did it easily without this, not even if i wanted i could, hehe how would i rub my keyboard ? :eek:

[Asz]

Originally posted by Carnage
never pressed the o-button so much as when they started screaming...btw:when you get totrured and you have to press some button very rapidly,I can't seem to do it the last time...any tips?

Pop a couple of caffene pills before you play that part :D

[Adair]

Originally posted by caipirinha
you can also get your shirt , cover your finger with it and rub it really fast on the controller.
but i did it easily without this, not even if i wanted i could, hehe how would i rub my keyboard ? :eek:
The keyboard? Maybe you'll be able to map the action button to the scroll wheel. That should be fast enough.

[caipirinha]

hmm never thought of that, but i like the challenge ;) , not that it was any challenge anyways

[fonzieahmed]

The pc version is to be released on DVD ROM!!Not everyone has a DVD ROM you know!!!:(

[Drack]

Yes, at some point new technology has to change and leave old tech behind. Evident in the transfer to Windows 9x to NT. Its not like can't buy a PS2 or DVD-ROM drive. Anyways would you want a 6 cd install that takes up a huge chunk of your HD.

[Kazuya]

6 cd? Ha, i would like to see if nintendo can sell a 4 dvd rom game at the same price and keep saying it doesn't matter the size of their media.