epsxe for mac...pleeeease?????

[rainbow_dryad]

It can be done, but they just haven't done it. I would really like to know why they are able to make an emulator for linux and windows, and now for macintosh? Just because the producers aren't interested in a Mac emu doesn't mean we (the emu users) aren't, I mean, thats who the emulator is for, isn't it? Everyone? Mac users are people too!

Quite frankly, I'd RATHER use my mac to play games than a PC, I've had too many PC's die on me, crash, freeze, have random loss of memory, etc. I want an emulator that works on the computer I actually USE!!

I think the epsxe team should let the guy from a pervious post try to port it to Mac. It would be a lot easier than having to buy windows and Virtual PC just to play my one Playstation game, and rather then spending alot of time fixing tiny bugs on for certain games, they could be porting it to all the systems and spreading the emulator around the globe. ^.^

~Jenifer

[OK-OK]

Ohhh... a girl:joice:. I believe there is an emulator for Mac... let me search...

Edit: The best psx emu for Mac is VGS. Maybe someday, someone will port PSCX to mac but nobody did tyet.

[Phoenix Flame]

Sounds like it would be much simpler to just get a Playstation.

[rainbow_dryad]

I have a playstation, at my sisters, but I don't have a T.V. and my sister lives almot 9 hours drive away from me. ^.^ Guess I'll have to get classic for my iBook..and (only have OS X) but even then, I think it costs money fro VGS. >__> ah well. Just wanted to bring this to the forum's attention.

~Jen

[Dark Watcher]

Well Jen...If more Mac users stepped up it may motivate more MAC based projects. The ePSXe team are not one to release their source for a conversion...Other emulators such as PCSX are open source and can make the transition....

Currently however the best emulator for MAC users would be Connectics Virtual Game Station (VGS)..It was a commercial emulator that cost money, but has since been terminated. You may be able to find a demo somewhere on the net.

There is another emulator project for MAC called FlareStorm. It appears to be making good progress...Perhaps you could try it...We are not a MAC user, but are curious about the emulators performance. It is free and can be found at
http://www.cronos.ne.jp/~y2510/cgi/generator/autoGen.cgi?/software/flarestorm&lang=en

Please let us know how well it works....and don't let some of the guys here scare you away ;)

[Seta-San]

You can't just recompile the code on a mac and have it work. First you have to change all the win32 code to aqua. That in itself is a challenge. Second is the hardest. Since the emulator more than likely uses assembly language to optimise the emulater you have to recode ALL of that. That, of coarse, might even really not be possible with out having to change the entire emulater. And then their is the difference in the length of certain data types in bytes that would require tweaking. I'm not sure about this but i believe that mac is big endion and windows is little endion (or vice versa) meaning that on a PC information travels like that 1001001011 while on a mac it's travel backwards from that like this 1101001001. That's just a little info on why ePSXe isn't out for PPC mac.

[rainbow_dryad]

At the momet is just in construction. It'll play a few games for a really good computer, but not on my blueberry iBook. It doesn't like my CDrom and freezes trying to start up a game. Waiting for updates.

I understand though, about them not being willing to hand over the source code, but the more people who bring their concerns about a Mac emu the more willing people will be willing to port one. But Mac isn't THAT different from Windows, heck Windows and Mac are very similar (owned both) I don't want to say Windows is a COPY of Mac....But....(snicker)

Anyways, I certainly hope Flarestorm gets better. I can't USE VGS at all, I don't have OS 9, I just have X (9 is a requirement of VGS, you can't run it in X) Flarestorm is meant for X, but until the CD-rom bugs are fixed I can't use itl...The download is also primarily in Japanese so there are language diffictulties with it as well...>> It does play a few games, rather buggy and basic still, according to the site...>>

~Jen

[Dark Watcher]

Thanks for the reply Jen...we will see if we can sort through some of the text files..perhaps there is an ISO option that could ber used in place of the actual CD..that may overcome the CD-ROM issues you are experiencing

[ebola]

You could put linux on your mac.

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/

[antibasic]

www.debian.org

[dn]

em, well, basically.. these guys do it for free so stop bloody demanding they do this and that as if the world owes you something because you're a mac user. You knew when you bought a Mac that stuff like this would happen often so stop *****ing. Anyway, MacOSX is coming to x86 :)

[Shiori]

Wow... didn't know dixon was so Anti-Mac. :p But what he said is true though... Macs are more of workstations, not multimedia machines.

[dn]

I ain't anti-Mac

/me whistles the NGEmu Theme Tune

Generally, people who use macs, use them because they think they're 'street' 'jazzy and 'da bomb brotha' They think using ones makes them cool. But anyway, I just have a natural vendeta against them because my chemistry techer is a mac fanboy :) He likes linux tho ;)

[Phoenix Flame]

Well, if you're into graphic design and some musical purposes then Macs are invaluable, but aside from that, they're nothing more than overpriced paperweights.

[Betamax]

Originally posted by dixon
I ain't anti-Mac

/me whistles the NGEmu Theme Tune

Generally, people who use macs, use them because they think they're 'street' 'jazzy and 'da bomb brotha' They think using ones makes them cool. But anyway, I just have a natural vendeta against them because my chemistry techer is a mac fanboy :) He likes linux tho ;)

Just be thankfull that you weren't trying to do a computer science degree at QUB a couple of years back. They only used mac's until 2001.

[ammoQ]

Originally posted by ebola
You could put linux on your mac.

http://www.mandrakelinux.com/


No, it's not at all that easy.

But let's get back to Mac OS first.

You have to consider the following issues:

a) Graphics API => should not be too hard since OpenGL exists for the Mac; but someone would have to make the conversion, so first of all Pete would have to release the source. Or someone translates a Softplugin to the mac, should not be too hard.

b) Sound API => should not be too hard; I don't know the details for the mac but in my naive way of thinking I guess all sound APIs do more-or-less the same thing: play samples.

c) Input (keyboard, joypad) => this is easy. Trust me.

d) CD-Rom => subchannels might be tricky, normal access and ISOs should not be difficult.

e) dynamic recompililation => here comes the hard part (at least I think so). Dynamic recompilation takes the machine code that was created for the processor of the PSX and translates it to the machine code of the machine the emulator is running on; for ePSXe and PCSX, this would be x86 code. A mac need PowerPC code, so the dynamic recompiler would have to be rewritten to run on the mac. The other way is to use an interpreter to run the PSX-machine code, but I'm not sure if the speed is good enough in that case.


Linux on the mac would immediately solve a), b) and c); but issue e) would still arise.

[blahaight]

i know the problem, mac sux!
wtf are you thinking buying a mac, get a pc

[ready2rumbelX]

The experiences i've had with Mac were just for work, which was in school. I really don't like the way MAC works, although the OS X of the newer Macs might be interesting, cause i've had some experience with Linux........but I thought Mac sucks with games?

ready2rumbelX :)

[blahaight]

yes indeady! sux for games

it used to, dont know about now, have only 1 button on the damn mouse!!

[yakumo fujii]

Sorry to crap thread, but MACs aren't really built for games. If it were, more games would have been made for it. IMO it's for looks and bragging rights (for the FireWire and SCSI stuff). They also gets outdated dangerously fast.

[Modem]

There are SOME games on the mac that are just as good as on the PC. Like every Blizzard game for instance. But, as most of you said, it really shouldn't be used for more than work.

But overall, Macs with handles on the top of the computer should not be used for anything more than a possible Olympic event. Seeing who can toss it the farthest. Or possibly a doorstop... hmmm... so many uses other than actually turning them on.

[Seta-San]

Macs are excellent for games.They can do games as good as windows. it's just that their arn't that many people using macs so people don't recompile their games for mac. actually macs are probably better for games because they are in a large part like consoles being that it's a closed system.

[yakumo fujii]

How are they good for games if they outdate so quickly and so expensive that no one want to use it? It's way more expensive than PC with similiar hardware. Also, from my experience with games ported to MACs, Mac versions tend to have ****tier graphics and controls (Quake III Arena) than PCs because their graphics cards cannot keep up with PCs' cards, and their one-button mouse just isn't useful enough.

[Kurbster]

Macs are still 1 buttons? those little cheap peices of ****. It really depends on taste. Macs are good for multimedia and video editing, and nothing else.

[Gamer1]

>>Macs are good for multimedia and video editing, and nothing else.

not even anymore. the pc has outshined the mac in that area already as well. due to the war with amd and intel, pc has eclipse the mac in every aspect.

http://www.digitalvideoediting.com/2002/11_nov/reviews/cw_macvspciii2.htm

[Seta-San]

Most of the video and image editing products that are the absolute best are MADE by Apple. They still have a solid place in the industry. But i really don't that that a ePSXe forum should be a place for Macs Rule/Sux.

[weefolk]

Macs are still 1 buttons? those little cheap peices of ****.
my mac's mouse has 2 buttons AND a scroll wheel.
but yeah, we should end this now...

[Katsuya]

You should read the dates before you post. This was over 2 years ago. :)

[hushypushy]

but yeah, we should end this now...

funny you say that, you're the one that revived it :rolleyes: