Faster PlayStation Emulation?

[Swift Death]

Is there a way to make my P1-200mhz go faster with plugins? I use a VooDoo3 2000 PCI graphics board. This is of course with ePSXe.

[Rargh]

well, u can always overclock ur cpu, but i doubt it could handle this cuz' it seems it s an old cpu.
If u want to give it a try....
U could higher the FSB, for example ...don t forget to buy a good cooling system...

I don t recommend it tough.....


Bye

[sekxx]

I definitly recomand O.C. it works great with my config:

Both Win2K & Win98 Se
Duron 600@930 [great Hein :D, I've try 1Ghz, but, it's CPU@65°C and win2K don't load :D]
GeForce2MX: Clock 215/Ram 200 @ C 235/R 215
...

Even If the CPU O.C. is very important, no Trouble, even when I encode DivX 4Hours @ 100% CPU usage :D

Just call me king Of O.C. or simply consider that Duron is very OverClokable :D

[Rargh]

As athlon is OC, duron is (it s the same as athlons except the internal cache which is made w/ 64ko than 256 (i think...) of the athlons TB)

Well, his computer is based w/ a VERY OLD cpu...
I think that force the frequency w/ that one would be very hummm....dangerous, not recommended tHough. (thx adair ;) )


Bye

[sekxx]

Of course I know,
it's just that I want everyone to know my great O.C.

Just wanted to have some feeback like:

"Hum Sekxx, it's really an HUGE... <font color=C0C0C0 size=-3>OverCloking</font>" :D
"Oh, from now, i can say:'I love Sekxx' "...
"Your right docteur: ' Sekxx, is good, Sekxx, is fun' " :D <-<b>Coldcut</b>
"From now: Sekxx hands my life"...



<center><font size=+3 color=FF0000><b>WelCom to Megalomania World :D</b></font></center>






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[Swift Death]

Actually, I already have it O.C. to 233mhz, and have 96mb or RAM. What else could I do?

[Swift Death]

Oh yah, it is O.C. as far as it can go. My 200mhz cpu can only go to 233mhz. And thats what I have it at. I have to OC from my mainboard too, not through the bios. And for it being dangerous. I have had it at 233mhz for 2 years now, and it hasn't done anything dangerous yet.

[kairi00]

If you don't plan on spending any more money, I think that's the best you can do. Otherwise, get a cheap ol' K6-3 processor or something (if your motherboard supports it).

[Rargh]

Buy a voodoo card...
It doesn t need a powerful cpu...

[Swift Death]

I already have a Voodoo3 2000 PCI card.

[Shadow Lady]

hey, how can I overclock my k6-2 500
can anybody teachme, I need to know

[Adair]

Originally posted by sekxx
Just call me king Of O.C. or simply consider that Duron is very OverClokable :D

ehehe I have a 600mhz OC @ 900mhz. No its not as fast as yours, but then you have to consider that you have a Duron and I only have a Celeron. Also I OC by using a A-bit slotket converter and upping the FSB from 66mhz to 100mhz. And I didn't have to increase the voltage to stabalize it.:D

[takwu]

Swift Death,

on the hardware side, there isn't much more you can do without spending more money. you could overclock the voodoo3, but i think the bottleneck is still at the cpu.
If you want to spend money, definitely get a new cpu. but try to split some of that budget for RAM as well.

now about software.
Which windows do you use? If you use WinME it has the potential to be faster than any win9x, but ONLY after you tweak it; in default settings it's the slowest. for tweaking windows i think some of the others in the forum would be more helpful than me.

and lastly, i guess you were asking what plugins and settings you should use for better speed.
well, for gpu it's lewpy's of course. and i think 640x480 is fine; you wont get more performance gain from lower settings. but still, go thru all the Explain Setting and find the fastest options. For instance you can disable Banshee code.
what sound card do you have? in general the internal spu core is a good choice for speed. You could also try Iori's with the fastest settings described in the readme. And if you can live without sound, turning it off really helps speed up the emu.

Hope that helps :cool:

[FireGL]

just buy a new pocessor and additional memory your system will definitely rockz

[RedJacket]

SephirothOmega
it depends on what motherboard u got..read the motherboard's
manual and serch for dipSwitch..
in case if ur bios does support FrontSideBus adjust(i doubt so..)
u dun need to open the case to adjust the switch..orelse u gotta
do it by manual ..somehow it's dangerous as u might fried ur CPU..
try this only u've enough confidence..my advice:p
btw..duron sure is OC monster..as far as i know..the king of Duron
overclocker run it's 600 over 1G.
Latest info:from what i heard ..k6-2 500 is tough..hard to oc..
the most it can do is 575..and very unstable..gotta increase voltage
..maitain the temperature under 30'c..additional better cooling fan.
hmm..lots of stuff to do..huh

[liquid]

Forget, overclocking, there is nothing you can do to squeeze more power out of that system. Pentium 200 class computers can't cut it with todays emulators. Your going to need a much faster system.

1Ghz AMD cpu are about $80 USD. This is mad cheap.
And a half decent motherboard will run you about $60-70.
Couple that with a fair amount of RAM ($20 for 256MB of PC133 SDRAM) and you can upgrade to a new system for probably around $200-250.

so there is no excuse to upgrade now.

You soundln't even think twice about it.

you'll feel much happier afterwards.

[Athleon]

or trying VGS?

[Rargh]

Originally posted by liquid
Forget, overclocking, there is nothing you can do to squeeze more power out of that system. Pentium 200 class computers can't cut it with todays emulators. Your going to need a much faster system.

1Ghz AMD cpu are about $80 USD. This is mad cheap.
And a half decent motherboard will run you about $60-70.
Couple that with a fair amount of RAM ($20 for 256MB of PC133 SDRAM) and you can upgrade to a new system for probably around $200-250.

so there is no excuse to upgrade now.

You soundln't even think twice about it.

you'll feel much happier afterwards.

O_o
stop it u re just killing meee :mg:
the prices are so low!
in france (even if i think they re low enough), it nearly the double amount of money....

[Swift Death]

As you can see, I already have an awesome 3D card (the Voodoo3 200 PCI) I already have my CPU overclocked from 200mhz to 233mhz (and that is as far as it will go.) The plugins don't make enough of a difference to notice... So here are my system specs, i think that tweking windows sounds good because I haven't done that, and i have never heard of it. As for RAM, I am full for the moment. i only have 4 RAM slots, and they are all fill 2 16mb chips, and 2 32mb chips. As for buying a new CPU and mainboard, Best Buy is a little expensive, and I am only 15, so I am short on cash bacause I am always buying blank CD's and Games when I actually get enough cash. Right now I only got like $20 bucks. What can I do to tweak Windows.... specs are

HP Pavilion 8140
Windows ME
P1-200mhz CPU O.C. to 233mhz
Voodoo3 2000
4gb HD
4x CD-Rom drive
4x/8x/32x CD-RW drive
96mb of RAM (No more RAM slots)

If you need any more specs, E-mail me, or post here.
Thanks for all your guyses help so far.

E-Mail:
Robert.Steiner@leusd.k12.ca.us

[Rargh]

I have a thing to ask you:

Why have u chosen winME w/ ur system?
Win 98 or even 95 would be better to experience more speed (dunno if epsxe will work on win95 though).

ME is taking at least 50 mb of ram, and 98 is taking 30...
I think the best thing u have to do is (like u said: tweak ME, or change the OS)

Bye

[Swift Death]

I did use windows 95, but with my crapy HP (You all know that HP sucks right, lots of errors, like the ones iMesh gives you) i got too many errors running Windows 95, and I had to recover every 2-3 months or so. i don't own a copy of Windows 98. Ever science I put Windows ME on my HP, I haven't gotten any errors. I have had ME on for 6-7 month's or so, and I havent needed to recover yet. So thats why I use ME. Aldo's SpeedUp Processes (Thanks Man) Is telling me that even 50-90 percent of my ram is being used. I used to only have 32 megs running on windows ME. I use SpeedUp Processes all the time to clear my ram, but it doesn't speed up my computer or Emulation.

[liquid]

Well, there isn't much you can do with a slow cpu.
You can tweak windows as much as you want, but it isn't going to do you much good at this point.
Either you upgrade, or you have to be content with where you are at.

Also you very underpowered, have a voodoo3 2000 on a p200, you need at least a pentium 2 class computer to take advantage of it; otherwise your going to be stuck with voodoo 1 performance.

[Rargh]

I don t think so liquid.

The voodoos don t need to be w/ a powerful cpu unless the tnt for example...
Upgrade w/ a more powerful doesn t necessarily mean that the voodoo could be more advantaged. There will be a slight difference that s all...
That s why the voodoo are great cards for low end computers...
(Still, i m not talking about the voodoo 4 & 5)

Bye

[Swift Death]

How do you tweak windows... If this doesn't work, I am going to beg my mom for an upgraded machine.

[takwu]

hmm, one more thing...
what's your sound card? If it's one of those on-board systems, it might eat into your memory and cpu as well!

[Swift Death]

My soundcard is not onboard, but my old ATI video card is. I disabled it when i put in my voodoo through System in the Control Panel. My soundcard is a Crystal SoundFusion.

[liquid]

This is a reply to rargh,

Yes, it does matter, even for a voodoo card.
If you look back into sharkyextreme's archive around 1998
it was mentioned several times that voodoo2 performed poorly on pentium 1's, and that it scaled better on pentium 2 systems.
Considering that the Voodoo3 is the next step up, it would follow same logic.

Also, I used to own a voodoo2 card, on a pentium II-266 for years coupled with a TNT-1 card. So I know first hand how well it performs on pentium 2 system. However now I gave that card to my friend who has a P200 and guess what? the performance is horribly bad,it's about equal to a voodoo1. Since the CPU isn't fast enough to communicate to the card. Hence the card is constantly waiting for data from the CPU. The opposite scenerio happens with faster CPUs, they maxes out its theroitical Fill rate limit, and the CPU has to wait on the graphic card. This is what is happening now with the Geforce 2 MXs. This is why it is critical that you couple a graphic card that has a high Fill-rate to a CPU that can keep up with. This gives the graphic plenty of head room for scaling on faster systems. (the down side to this is poor performance on slower systems)

it's not the cards fault, but the system it's running on.
By your assumption, his graphic card should make his games run faster but its not. Granted Voodoo cards perform well on low end systems, but there is a limit. Even a Voodoo card will face that.

here is a little chart of CPU to Video card ratios you can refer to.
voodoo1's maxed out their performance around 233Mhz
voodoo2's required at least a 233Mhz Pentium 2 or better, and maxed out their performance around 400Mhz.
voodoo3's required at least 300Mhz or better, and maxed out around 500-600Mhz.
Voodoo4&5's are more powefull, but you should have around 400Mhz or better to make it shine.

[Swift Death]

Yah, that is pretty interesting stuff, that I did not know about the voodoo cards.

[Sorrento]

just buy a new cpu

[takwu]

hey i had a voodoo2 8mb with a pentium pro 200, it was working pretty good.

but yeah, probably Swift Death's P200 is REALLY out paced by the Voodoo3 2000.