PS2 vs GameCube vs XBox [Archive] - Page 7

Takmadeus

January 11th, 2003, 19:23

I'll give my 2 cents... I think this is one of the most stupid threads in the whole forum... why you may ask?... well, here everyone learned a lot of every Next-gen consoles, but this thread was just an excuse for everyone to be fanboying about their favorite consoles.... keeping this thread open is just popicing more bashing, flaming and laming..... and it just doesn't have any point now, as what had to be said was already said, and now it is just a kiddy fight, pretty similñar to the maggot vs batard war, just that this one's camuflated behind a discussion about consoles.... you guys really look like kids in this thread.. please, be more prudent and proffesional, give everyone a good example of what a proper discussion should be

no offence and good luck

Exophase

January 11th, 2003, 19:27

Oh geez.... the cycle repeats. You're accusing us of flaming and bashing.. why don't you reread your post, please. Most of the people who've posted in this thread aren't fanboys, and I doubt you've read most of the thread. You're probably just generalizing based on what you've seen in the past, which isn't very fair. This is the lamest thread in the forum.. right? That's very opinionated. Given your sharp judgement about what's posted here I'm surprised they haven't made you a moderator yet.

In my eyes the second you posted here you lowered yourself to whatever level you have us at.

- Exo

Takmadeus

January 11th, 2003, 19:32

I am not meaning to act as a mod, nor try to flame you for your posts... as I stated, this thread is informative and all, but now everyone is arguing just because not everyone likes his/her favorite console, and it is not right.... or am I wrong when I am saying that everyone is arguing for whatever reason I have already stated?.... actually in a previous post you said "you are arguing because you... (something outnumbered...)" then you are giving me the reason... or am I not right... I am willing to receive any kind of feedback of course.....

_E_

January 11th, 2003, 19:56

hmmm,....well, I am no Xbox, PS2 or even GC fanboy but i still participated in this thread. ( the fact remains, i still love Sega :D)

This thread was an opinion-based on from the start. PS2 vs GC vs Xbox, what do you expect for people to say except opinions and sales record? however, Tak does have a point that repeating the same argument over and over again is sorta "childish" - BTW: no offence here-. but again, those 76 pages were not entirely on topic. the GBA was discussed on many occasions.....

Personally, a "small, Healthy" discussion about GC vs Xbox wouldnt be a bad idea...........

Exophase

January 11th, 2003, 20:18

Originally posted by takmadeus
I am not meaning to act as a mod, nor try to flame you for your posts... as I stated, this thread is informative and all, but now everyone is arguing just because not everyone likes his/her favorite console, and it is not right.... or am I wrong when I am saying that everyone is arguing for whatever reason I have already stated?.... actually in a previous post you said "you are arguing because you... (something outnumbered...)" then you are giving me the reason... or am I not right... I am willing to receive any kind of feedback of course.....

No, you're not right... almost no one is arguing just because someone else doesn't like his/her favorite console. Most of whats been on topic in this thread has been analysis of how we think the consoles will do and why. Of course we've seen several times people say "it's just the same thing being said over and over again", or people who were ardantly arguing suddenly step back and say "this is pointless, this arguing is stupid", but even still new things of decent relevance are still being said. The process may be tiresome but it's not just the exact same thing being said over and over.

- Exo

_E_

January 11th, 2003, 20:33

Originally posted by Exophase

No, you're not right... almost no one is arguing just because someone else doesn't like his/her favorite console. Most of whats been on topic in this thread has been analysis of how we think the consoles will do and why. Of course we've seen several times people say "it's just the same thing being said over and over again", or people who were ardantly arguing suddenly step back and say "this is pointless, this arguing is stupid", but even still new things of decent relevance are still being said. The process may be tiresome but it's not just the exact same thing being said over and over.

- Exo

hmm,..well i not defending anybody, but I hope you are not pointing at me when you say "people step out". I didnt step out, i am still in the discussion. Its simply that i cannot keep up with it any longer ( the moment i sign off and return back to it, i have 2 pages of debate in front of me) and not to mention that i left emuforums for a while on christmas. The topic was repeatidly discussed many times ( okay, over and over again was an exagguaration), but we sometimes did repeat ourselves.....

Exophase

January 11th, 2003, 20:44

No, I wasn't talking about you...

- Exo

Takmadeus

January 11th, 2003, 20:49

then about me?... oh, ok..... don't worry..... I guess I was wrong and everything... if that's what you wanted to hear.... I don't want any disturbances towards me, so I guess I'll walk away from here in peace....

Exophase

January 11th, 2003, 20:50

No, not you either, but if that's how you feel... :p

- Exo

Ninjaa

January 11th, 2003, 20:53

Originally posted by Exophase
We're on the 75th page of this thread and you just now decided arguing over which console is going to do better is trivial...

- Exo

meh. I'm a slow learner. :D

Tak, this thread would be a whole lot better if more people participated. The problem is that it's just a handful of people who actually post here, and as a result it turns into squabbling about eachother most often rather than the consoles. If more people participated, I am sure that this would go away.

Takmadeus

January 11th, 2003, 20:58

wrong..... from my experience creating flammable threads (like "join the maggot army" which almost got me banned)... getting more prople is worse... creates more conflicts and tends to create chaos (12xx posts of of pure war in my thread wasn't a good idea...)

Ninjaa

January 11th, 2003, 21:00

Tak, this is a little different than some war between maggots and batards. But anyways, this is WAAAAY off topic. Please get this discussion back on topic.

I may as well post something relevant.
http://www.planetgamecube.com/news.cfm?action=item&id=3833

Apparently it just got a whole lot cheaper to develop for GameCube.

Exophase

January 11th, 2003, 21:00

I'd just be happy if Ninja came on AIM more. Maybe this time sober. :(

- Exo

Exophase

January 11th, 2003, 21:03

"Supported by cutting-edge technology, the new SN-TDEV enables data transfer at 3MBytes/s, making life much easier and more efficient for games developers. The hardware also includes 48MB of memory, optical disk drive and USB2 connection to a PC."

Cutting edge indeed. ^_^

Looks like they're flooding people with technical terms.. but I'm missing whatever's supposed to be the big deal here, in this article...

- Exo

_E_

January 11th, 2003, 21:04

SN-TDEV provides a cost-effective alternative solution for games developers providing their complete hardware and software needs in one portfolio. As well as accelerating the games development process, the new SN-TDEV will reduce development hardware costs by up to 60 per cent.

comment: If it was really a high-end piece of hardware which saves money,why wasent that added before the GC was officially launched?

Takmadeus

January 11th, 2003, 21:09

when they refer to an optical disk drive... well, they just mean CDs or DVDs... no more... /me thinks they are just numbers.. but they don't go strtaight.....

but it's always nice to have an opportunity to develop

Ninjaa

January 11th, 2003, 21:19

I gathered that it was a 3rd party dev kit. I could be wrong though.

In other news, IGN hinted that there might be TWO Factor 5 games due out next year rather than the one that has been semi-confirmed. Since Factor 5 has gone on record saying that Rogue Leader uses only about 10% of the GameCube's power... we can expect something breathtaking from them I think.

Kaiser Sigma

January 11th, 2003, 23:32

Maybe it's time for this thread to stop being "sticky"...

Kane

January 11th, 2003, 23:57

>Maybe it's time for this thread to stop being "sticky"...

You know what'll happen if I do that? 50 new threads on almost exactly the same subject will appear.
Maybe when all 3 consoles are dead and buried, we can finaly unsticky this.

Ninjaa

January 12th, 2003, 00:16

Originally posted by Exophase
I'd just be happy if Ninja came on AIM more. Maybe this time sober. :(

- Exo

I RARELY use AIM. You would have a better chance getting ahold of me on msn I think. The best way to catch me though would be yahoo. My AIM account is filled with contacts that I don't really wish to speak to anymore.

Kaiser Sigma

January 12th, 2003, 00:35

> You know what'll happen if I do that? 50 new threads on almost exactly the same subject will appear.
Maybe when all 3 consoles are dead and buried, we can finaly unsticky this.

Wooops... my bad then, but I got the feeling that lately there isn't much life in this thread, but then again don't mind me.

Exophase

January 12th, 2003, 00:59

Originally posted by Ninja

I RARELY use AIM. You would have a better chance getting ahold of me on msn I think. The best way to catch me though would be yahoo. My AIM account is filled with contacts that I don't really wish to speak to anymore.

Aw, that's what blocks are for. :( I don't like MSN. :( :( Why not stop supporting Microsoft and stop using it, you XBox lover! (okay, that probably won't work)

Yahoo.. I have.. some account.. something.. I don't remember.

- Exo

Ninjaa

January 12th, 2003, 01:04

I hate Microsoft and AOL about equally, so I usually don't log into either one. :D Besides, it's not like I use MSN Messenger or anything. First thing I do with a fresh install of windows is uninstall it.

I do keep on meaning to create a new AIM account though. But the only reason I had one in the first place was for an online game I no longer play. That's actually the reason I no longer log in there. Whenever I do, 5 or so people tell me to come back. :D

Syed Fawad

January 12th, 2003, 02:45

I see that we wen't quite off topic here. And takmedus, as Ninja said that he is a slow learner, therefore I think it'll take more time for him to learn a few stuff. At least the guy now thinks that GC is the #2 console LOL.

However, what I want to see in this thread is a proper non-biased comparision between XBOX and GC. I think that GC has an upper edge, but the sales show the exact opposite. Why?

Exophase

January 12th, 2003, 02:54

Why.. well, marketting is a big one. Microsoft has more agressive marketting. Promotions are another one, as MS has nicer ones. Another is the XBox's ability to play DVD's and do lots of other computer like things... There's better online support.. and lastly hype about it being more powerful and having games with prettier graphics.

- Exo

Syed Fawad

January 12th, 2003, 02:59

Oooh, that reminds me of Betamax's quote.

"Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product."

Ninjaa

January 12th, 2003, 05:24

Originally posted by Fawad
However, what I want to see in this thread is a proper non-biased comparision between XBOX and GC. I think that GC has an upper edge, but the sales show the exact opposite. Why?

Sales show GameCube clearly in the lead by 25% over the Xbox worldwide. I wouldn't call that exactly the opposite.

Once and for all:

Europe: GameCube winning by 10%
Japan: GameCube winning by 500%
America: GameCube tied with Xbox.

ChrisRay

January 12th, 2003, 05:27

Every single document and news for the last 2 months has showed the Xbox outselling the Gamecube in America.

But who really care. They are just consoles. I can't believe The argument about such a stupid thing has gone this far.

Ninjaa

January 12th, 2003, 05:31

The most recent sales data for North America is from November.

GameCube: 468,000
Xbox: 468,000

According to the NPD report of sales data.

ChrisRay

January 12th, 2003, 05:39

OOps Ya :) I'll have to look again ^_^

Alias

January 12th, 2003, 06:04

uh... wasn't that last winter's data?

ChrisRay

January 12th, 2003, 06:43

You know. I have been looking for figures from both companies. And I can't find information on either except from the company themselves or fansites. Both claiming the oposite. and having higher sales.

I find it somewhat interesting that Nintendo's claims are exactly the same as Microsoft's claim for console sales.

Btw it should be noted that those claims are what the individual company reported to NPD. Not what NPD investigated claims. If you don't believe that check out NPD yourself. They have not done their studies for 4Q 2002 yet.

Personally I think both companies are talking out of their azz right now trying to show the other up.

Syed Fawad

January 12th, 2003, 06:52

BTW, there is one thing which is still not understood by me in this thread. That is, the charms of XBOX. And by that I mean the software available on it.

And I would like to question Chrisray personally, do you think that XBOX has better games than GC?

ChrisRay

January 12th, 2003, 06:58

I think each system has it's merit. I don't play favorites generally with consoles.

If I did not have a PC I'd have an Xbox for my online gameplay cravings.

In actuality. If I were not an avit PC gamer. I'd own all three consoles.

Syed Fawad

January 12th, 2003, 07:04

Originally posted by ChrisRay
I think each system has it's merit. I don't play favorites generally with consoles.

If I did not have a PC I'd have an Xbox for my online gameplay cravings.

In actuality. If I were not an avit PC gamer. I'd own all three consoles.

Just like everyone, you failed to explain the charms of XBOX to me.

ChrisRay

January 12th, 2003, 07:18

Originally posted by Fawad

Just like everyone, you failed to explain the charms of XBOX to me.

I told you. It's online gameplay. It's infinite data backup for games. There are quite a few benefits to the xbox.

Syed Fawad

January 12th, 2003, 10:55

So you mean that the ONLY advantage XBOX has over other consoles is the ability to play online games? And even that is limited to broadband users only.

No wonder ppl say "XBOX SUX"

ChrisRay

January 12th, 2003, 11:04

Originally posted by Fawad
So you mean that the ONLY advantage XBOX has over other consoles is the ability to play online games? And even that is limited to broadband users only.

No wonder ppl say "XBOX SUX"

I didn't presume it was the only reason. You've asked me this before. The thing that sells me on the Xbox is it's online play. What sells people on product can differ from person to person.

Some people prefer Long involving RPGS, Some people like rich graphics.

You can't presume that my opinion speaks for everyone. And I sure don't claim it does.

For some. Xbox is the cheapest solution for online gaming. . It's not an option that makes me want to go out and buy an xbox right at this moment. I don't want to buy any of three consoles either. None of them are going to offer what I want at the moment.

I don't presume or try to make generalizing statements about what other people want out of a console. Nor Will I ever try. If the product you purchase is what you want and are satisfied with it. Then that product is good for you.

Syed Fawad

January 12th, 2003, 11:35

Originally posted by ChrisRay

I didn't presume it was the only reason. You've asked me this before. The thing that sells me on the Xbox is it's online play. What sells people on product can differ from person to person.

Some people prefer Long involving RPGS, Some people like rich graphics.

You can't presume that my opinion speaks for everyone. And I sure don't claim it does.

For some. Xbox is the cheapest solution for online gaming. . It's not an option that makes me want to go out and buy an xbox right at this moment. I don't want to buy any of three consoles either. None of them are going to offer what I want at the moment.

I don't presume or try to make generalizing statements about what other people want out of a console. Nor Will I ever try. If the product you purchase is what you want and are satisfied with it. Then that product is good for you.

So when we say that a console is BETTER than the other, what are we talking about?

Kraiger Drago

January 12th, 2003, 20:15

Originally posted by ChrisRay

For some. Xbox is the cheapest solution for online gaming.

That is, until they announce the actual rates November 2003 :)

But anyhoo, more about Xbox live:
Quoted fromThis article on Gamespot (http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2908359,00.html).

Official beta testing for Microsoft's Xbox Live online gaming service in Japan closed today after two months of testing. More than 5,000 users participated in the beta, and out of those 5,000, 90 percent said they will continue to use the service when it's launched in Japan on January 16. In addition, when asked about favorite Xbox Live features in a beta survey, 90 percent said the voice communication was the best feature of the service, though the friends list and gamertag features were also quite popular.

I predicted that Xbox live would be a big selling feature for it overseas due to the cost of PC internet service; but until it actually hits the market, who knows?

Originally posted by Fawad
So you mean that the ONLY advantage XBOX has over other consoles is the ability to play online games? And even that is limited to broadband users only.
Every Xbox Live user has a broadband connection; its built right into the machine. So yes, it is an advantage because that means you don't have all the sorts of Lag and Time-Out problems, etc that you do with other online games.

But of course, since their current line up of games (any, not just online) is not that stellar, all the technological features of the Xbox do not really mean crap :p

As to the "which console is BETTER?" well, its like saying "Which Automobile is better?" Some people say that a high speed and lots of Horsepower makes a good vehicle, while some say that Fuel Efficency makes a good vehcile, and others say Durability makes a good vehicle. There is no right answer, but when it is consoles, it basically boils down to "What Games do you want to play?"

ChrisRay

January 12th, 2003, 21:54

Originally posted by Fawad

So when we say that a console is BETTER than the other, what are we talking about?

*laughs* I'm not sure. I just argue that the Xbox isn't any worse. Depending on what you want. Unlike some people here. I could care less what people buy with their money.

Kaiser Sigma

January 12th, 2003, 22:19

> So when we say that a console is BETTER than the other, what are we talking about?

Mmm... Syed again with the same ? No one on this thread said that the XBOX is superior to the GC. Only person on this thread that stood up for the XBOX was Raedius, and he exposed some good points about it. Merits of the XBOX ?
It all comes to personal tastes, some like the PS2 for the amount of RPGs, while other just like it because of GTA3... honestly no one in here speaks for the whole gaming comunity. You don't find anything atractive on the XBOX ? Fine, why bothering asking ppl once and again "What do you see on the XBOX ?".
Truth be said at this moment the XBOX has some titles that makes me drool (Splinter Cell, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Shenmue IIx and some more). Each one has different tastes, if you don't see that you will keep arguing forever... Well actually that would be a good thing to keep alive this thread ;)

Takmadeus

January 13th, 2003, 05:15

but you know... despite of what everyone says, this thread has no point since it all comes to numbers... just to justify personal tastes... as Kaiser said, it all depends on the tastes.... like me.... I like the 3 consoles... why?... because they are good.... now every representant of his favorite consiole will come to almost obligate me to like his console...... you all base on number guys, and that's a no no..... if you like the console then buy it, if you already have it, the stop saying..."this console is better because this will be released" or "this console is better because its got these games" or "this console rocks because it has sold so much units...." and then trying to appear as a sainrt saying..."I am not trying to argue here..." or "I am just telling what is said on the reposrts" or whatever..... I know you'll want to kill me for this post... but this has to be done, and this thread must have a stop... for nothing really useful is being said anymore (it does not mean that it wasn't informative before)

cya and good luck

Syed Fawad

January 13th, 2003, 05:31

So now the question should be, which console suites the widest audience?

Takmadeus

January 13th, 2003, 05:41

well... actually there is no question to be resolved as this kind of things would like asking... "which religion suites the widest audience?".... no point on asking that since what really cares is your own opinion on that.... or am I wrong?

Syed Fawad

January 13th, 2003, 05:49

I donno but I think it is quite fun to compare the stuff and pick the best out of them.

I may like something for some other reason, someone else will like it for some other reason, so the collection of these reasons can be made the basis upon which the best can be decided. I see nothing bad in it.

And then upon reasons, we start arguments. At least this is how I think. If a person say that VGS is better than epsxe, yes that is his opinion. May be VGS suits his TASTES better, but I will argue with him on the better thing; or at least the thing which is better IMO.

Takmadeus

January 13th, 2003, 05:55

but this has gone too far you see?... this has stopped being an argument to a disimulated fight..... and that's not of a behavior.... instead of enjoying the comparison, you are just basing you aopinions on whatever reason... turning this into a fight.... and shalll whoever who is trying to decideget cxlose, you'll jump on him trying to fill his head with numbers and stuff...

why just not say...

PS2 has a nice selection of games for RPG gamers
GC has many titles for all ages.. and the coming games will be nice
Xbox sure has a good net play

see?... 78 pages of useless fight resumed in 3 lines andf without fighting

Syed Fawad

January 13th, 2003, 06:07

Originally posted by takmadeus
but this has gone too far you see?... this has stopped being an argument to a disimulated fight..... and that's not of a behavior.... instead of enjoying the comparison, you are just basing you aopinions on whatever reason... turning this into a fight.... and shalll whoever who is trying to decideget cxlose, you'll jump on him trying to fill his head with numbers and stuff...

why just not say...

PS2 has a nice selection of games for RPG gamers
GC has many titles for all ages.. and the coming games will be nice
Xbox sure has a good net play

see?... 78 pages of useless fight resumed in 3 lines andf without fighting

So when you're put to pick ONE of these three consoles, which one will YOU get and why?

I wanted this thread to be something like "Which console do you think suits you and why?"

Takmadeus

January 13th, 2003, 06:16

it doesn't depend on wehat I actually say... but how I feel like to... let's eee it this way... I might not choose any of the three, and that doesn't mean i don't like 'em... just that i am not in the mood of choosing.... discussing is alright, but trying to obligate everyoone to like whatever console it is is not good...

I know you qwanted this to be a good thing, but it stopped serving its true purpose, like the maggo army.... just an effort to wake up the fun in this place, but turned to be a war, full of lamers, who sunk this place to the bottom... and almost get me banned, and turned me to be the perfect scapegoat to be blemaed and hated... but that's another story....

Syed Fawad

January 13th, 2003, 06:22

Personally, I really don't like the comparision of this thread to whatever maggot thing you're talking about.

It was as simple as that, why do you think PS2 is better or GC is better or XBOX is better. We found valid reasons as to why PS2 may be better or GC may be better, but when the comparision came to XBOX, the XBOX representatives started comparing the sales figures and all that flame stuff.

XBOX is good just because of network capablites? PS2 and GC offer that alongwith a wealthload of other better options. I wanted a valid reason to like XBOX and I didn't got it!

Quatro

January 13th, 2003, 07:40

well I think that would really be a long discussion... when you enter sales figure here, that would be what, the figures of the console or the games sold? If were gonna tackle even this, this will even go on much farther...

Syed Fawad

January 13th, 2003, 07:45

IMO the most important thing about consoles are videogames. Otherwise, mulit-function consoles aren't better than PC. The whole topic of this thread should be about the overall quality and quantity of games each system has got to offer. Every indivivdual will reason his choice among the three. Reasons are then discussed upon. If that isn't done, then the whole meaning ofthe word "argument" is crippled.

Quatro

January 13th, 2003, 07:58

well based on your statement there Fawad, the console that got the overall quality and QUANTITY would be PS2 period. On the grounds of Xbox and GCN, base on last year's performance, Xbox have best selling games that's ahead of GCN... but that's last year...

This year would be much different and much competitive...so we'll never know on teh battle between XboX and GCN... its all depend on teh games they would release, regardless of what genre of the game...

Syed Fawad

January 13th, 2003, 08:02

Nice, I have someone to argue with on this topic finally. ;)

On the grounds of Xbox and GCN, base on last year's performance, Xbox have best selling games that's ahead of GCN

Xbox has better selling games than GC? I bet these games have names? Will a game to game comparision between GC and XBOX be bad?

Quatro

January 13th, 2003, 08:09

well just take a look on the list I have post way back... and the link on ebay regarding best sellng games... and think about it... but its definitely true that those Xbox that reach bestselling status are few but have great review from game magazines...

Kaiser Sigma

January 13th, 2003, 15:35

> So now the question should be, which console suites the widest audience?

Honestly, who the h**l cares about that ? If tomorrow 90 % of the video game audience switch its taste for the GC and the PS2 ends up being a loser (I know it's a bad example, but an example in the end). What ? You will drop your console even if it has the games you want just because the video game comunity likes the GC better ?
I can only say one thing for that : "Sheep".

Syed Fawad

January 13th, 2003, 17:51

Originally posted by Kaiser Sigma
> So now the question should be, which console suites the widest audience?

Honestly, who the h**l cares about that ? If tomorrow 90 % of the video game audience switch its taste for the GC and the PS2 ends up being a loser (I know it's a bad example, but an example in the end). What ? You will drop your console even if it has the games you want just because the video game comunity likes the GC better ?
I can only say one thing for that : "Sheep".

I bet you didn't read my further explanation.

IMO the most important thing about consoles are videogames. Otherwise, mulit-function consoles aren't better than PC. The whole topic of this thread should be about the overall quality and quantity of games each system has got to offer. Every indivivdual will reason his choice among the three. Reasons are then discussed upon. If that isn't done, then the whole meaning ofthe word "argument" is crippled.

The Vagrant

January 13th, 2003, 20:05

Well try this one on for size, I don't care much for you, in fact I care so little that if you were at this moment beaten to death with a bannana I would continue eating this rather delicious chocolate chip cookie as if nothing had ever happened.

I'm not writing this post for you, I'm writing it for anyone (besides myself) who finds thinly veiled sardonic satires to be homours. But seeing as how I'm a nice guy and all I'll give you your 'one valid reason to like X-Box'.

Now you appear to be one of those poor suckers who have been caught in the shallow and superficial net of wrestling entertainment. Therefore you should enjoy the rather shallow and superficial wresting games that seem to breed like rabbits these days. Since by thier very defintion these games are shallow and superficial they rely HEAVILY on graphics. X-Box has the purdiest graphics of them all. Therefore fans of the shallow and superficial wresting world should be drawn to the X-Box like butter is to bread. And there you have it, your very OWN valid reason to like X-Box. Enjoy.

*Continues eating delicous choclate chip cookie*

Exophase

January 13th, 2003, 20:53

Vagrant, if you're going to try to put yourself above other people you could at least spell properly.

- Exo

Kaiser Sigma

January 13th, 2003, 22:24

> I bet you didn't read my further explanation.

Negative, I read it... just because you don't like XBOX's games doesn't mean others don't like them too... IMO I'll follow someone's example and wait 4 years to buy a XBOX at Ebay with Panzer Dragoon Orta at a relative cheap price...
BTW, if the consoles are going to be judged only by your tastes then "the whole meaning ofthe word "argument" is crippled."
Think about it.

Exophase

January 14th, 2003, 05:46

I guess by this perspective it would be unfair to say PSX is a better console than Virtual Boy.. you know, since it's all perspective. Right?

I wonder at what point this total subjectivity breaks down.

- Exo

Syed Fawad

January 14th, 2003, 06:21

I don't care much for you, in fact I care so little that if you were at this moment beaten to death with a bannana I would continue eating this rather delicious chocolate chip cookie as if nothing had ever happened.

*Continues eating delicous choclate chip cookie*

Really? you just ate a housefly with your delicious "choclate" chip cookie.

Now you appear to be one of those poor suckers who have been caught in the shallow and superficial net of wrestling entertainment. Therefore you should enjoy the rather shallow and superficial wresting games that seem to breed like rabbits these days. Since by thier very defintion these games are shallow and superficial they rely HEAVILY on graphics. X-Box has the purdiest graphics of them all. Therefore fans of the shallow and superficial wresting world should be drawn to the X-Box like butter is to bread. And there you have it, your very OWN valid reason to like X-Box. Enjoy.

my my, you must be tought a lesson here, but since I don't give a ****ing damn about you, you better learn it somewhere else. :mad:

Since you think that wrestling is shallow and superficial thing, you just proved your ignorance here. The WWE tiltes on XBOX suck horse's ass and they are not at all a reason to like XBOX. However, they may be quite a good reason to hate the XXXBOX.
Remember, I know a ****ing lot more about WWE and wrestling games than you know about your "choclate" chip cookie.

You may be a nice guy but you too failed to give me "one valid reason to like XBOX".

BTW, if the consoles are going to be judged only by your tastes then "the whole meaning ofthe word "argument" is crippled."
Think about it.

I'd rather you think about it. I never said that consoles are going to judged by ONLY my tastes. I said:

I may like something for some other reason, someone else will like it for some other reason, so the collection of these reasons can be made the basis upon which the best can be decided. I see nothing bad in it.

Pay some attention peeps and Mr. Vagrant, please learn some manners.