FFIX with Geforce and Voodoo shots

[Breekan22]

Can anyone show two pictures of the same thing in both Pete's plugin and Lewpy's one for GeForce? I am deciding whether to get a GeForce or a Voodoo card and it will affect other games in the future, but I want to contrast this between the two plugins. If anyone can post screenshots that can be examined for comparison I would appreciate it.

[Breekan22]

Also, would it be best (if GeForce was better) to use Pete's D3D or Pete's DX6 D3D?

[F-3582]

With a GeForce: Pete's OGL.
BTW: GeForce is better! Trust me!

[Breekan22]

Which settings are optimal?

[S.SubZero]

...hold on, you are actually debating "getting" a voodoo card? WHY? You'd essentially be locking yourself into just a limited selection of software that will run on it, let alone run well. Already new games have come out that simply don't like Voodoo cards. A GF4 Ti4200 can be had on Pricewatch for $135 or less, and you'll be well-off for a while.

The graphichs quality absolutely should not be the end-all deciding factor for you. Yeah, the Glide plugin can produce *mildly* better results, but at the expense of a video card that won't go any farther.

[sxamiga]

a Voodoo card does do FSAA better than GForce cards do. fivefeet8 has shown this many times. But you can achieve excellent FSAA results w/a GForce card if you work at it. Also, as S.SubZero said, Voodoo is going no farther. That is because Nvidia bought them out and did away w/the Voodoo cards, once and for all. So Voodoo is dead, gone, history. Your best would be a GForce Card and the best GPU plugin to use would be Pete's OGL. That should give you nice clear graphics.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

[Lewpy]

Even I have not recommended buying Voodoo cards since 3dfx's demise.
There are two scenarios I can see as reason to buy one:-

Scenario A
1) You have money to burn
2) You buy a PCI Voodoo5
3) You have a spare monitor, or dual-input main monitor
4) You run it as a secondary display to your main, modern AGP card

Scenario B
1) You have literally no money to spend
2) They are the only cards you can find in your budget, and they are better than what you already have

[Zephon]

Actually, the Voodoo5 is great for emulation. If you plan to stick only with PSX emus, I say that the Voodoo5 is a great choice (see fivefeet8's screenshots with Lewpy's plugin + 4xFSAA). However, this card won't be able to play newer games, and will suffer of serious performance problems if you try to run any heavier game. If you have enough money, I say get a Geforce in your AGP slot and a Voodoo5 PCI.

[S.SubZero]

A PSX (even a modded one) costs less than a Voodoo5, and is a complete gaming system.

The issue here isn't "what's good for emulation".. You aren't going to say "Voodoo5 is the best thing ever in the history of the world to happen to any emulator ever, and any other card is such absolutely unreliable unusable inferior junk that I give them to my dogs as chew toys".. When we say "Glide does it better" we mean MARGINALLY better. MARGINALLY as in "If someone told me the V5 does good emulation and that's ALL it does, and a GF4 does *almost* as good emulation (like, 99.99994% as good) but will also run pretty much any game for the PC slated to come out in the next 18 months" then I would snap that V5 with my own two hands. FSAA is absolutely not the only reason to get a Voodoo card, and I would not like to see people buying Voodoo cards and then realizing later that they can't do anything else with them except play old PSX games. Voodoo cards are NOT a future-proofed investment.

[Ultragunner]

sadly, getting a voodoo card nowadays isn't the right thing to do. as newer PC games come out, the voodoo series are left out. although you may find that nothing beats the superior FSAA of these cards, still getting a geforce 2 would be your best bet.

take my case, Scenario A as stated by Lewpy.

i really bought the card because i am a fanatic and i miss very much glide.

times change though, as i recently bought a geforce 4 ti 4200 to cope up with compatibility issues with newer PC games. (i know the games of today run with the voodoo 5, but you will find how to make it work and trust me, it's not worth it.)

in other words, go get an ATI Radeon or a Geforce 2.

[fivefeet8]

I agree with Lewpy and Zephon.. If your gonna be mainly using your graphics card for psx emulation or N64 emulation, then yeah, a voodoo 5 would be nice.. But only the voodoo 5 pci is worth buying because it allows you to in the future when you start wanting to play newer pc games, to get a Modern agp graphics card.. If you want to be able to play psx games and future PC games now, then get newer graphics cards like the geforce 2, 3, or 4, or the Radeon's..

BTW.. The quality of the voodoo 5's FSAA and graphic quality is noticeably better.. If want to see some shots of FF9 then check the screenshots section.. There is more than enough of them there running on different graphics cards..

I have both an agp geforce 4 ti 4600 and a voodoo 5 5500 pci.. My voodoo 5 5500 pci gets used more simply because I mostly play emulated games, but I am relieved to know that my geforce 4 will be able to let me play future PC games as well.. But I don't use it much.. Hmm.. Maybe I should sell it since I am not into PC games that much at the moment..

One more thing to remember is this: the cpu that you pair your video card with also determines the video performance you will get..

[Sanhime]

LONG LIVE 3DFX!

[MasterYoshidino]

ok ppl i have no voodoo card but i do have this top of the line geforce4 card heres some pics and a setup text stuff for those who care
System Info:
Intel Pentium4 1.8GHz Northwood (A)
Visiontek Geforce4 Ti4600 (30.82 driver)
OCZ DDR-SDRAM 3200 256MB
Via P4PB-400 Mainboard

Graphics Setup:
(note i am using 4x Full screen antialiasing)
Plugin: Pete's OpenGL Driver 1.1.64
Author: Pete Bernert
Card vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
GFX card: GeForce4 Ti 4600/AGP/SSE2

Resolution/Color:
- 1024x768 Fullscreen - Desktop changing [16 Bit]
- Keep psx aspect ratio: off

Textures:
- R8G8A8A8
- Filtering: 5 - edge clamping supported
- Hi-Res textures: off
- Palettized tex windows: on
- Garbage collection: off
- VRam size: 128 MBytes - 196 textures usable

Framerate:
- FPS limitation: on
- Frame skipping: off
- FPS limit: Auto

Compatibility:
- Offscreen drawing: 2
- Framebuffer texture: 3
- Framebuffer access: 0
- Alpha multipass: on
- Mask bit: on
- Advanced blending: on (hardware)
- Subtractive blending: activated

Misc:
- Scanlines: off
- Line mode: off
- Unfiltered FB: off
- Dithering: off
- Screen smoothing: on - supported
- Game fixes: off [00000000]

http://members.cox.net/masteryoshi/ff9a.jpg


http://members.cox.net/masteryoshi/ff9b.jpg

'look ma no jaggies :D '

[MasterYoshidino]

for those that want pci card screenies
heres the url
[btw u must be wondering how i brought up a dead or un listed thread :P hehe i know how cuz my clan site has the same forum proggie and i know theres only one way to delete a thread and thats to clear the HDD of the forum lol ):D
http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14110
thats all :)

check out www.nattas.org/forum
and you will see what i mean :)

[F-3582]

Master Yoshidino...
You didn't cheat, did you?!?

[(F)ragnarok(F)]

how much do those cards cost?

[MasterYoshidino]

nope this is an old save data [i have bad armor fyi since i sold some to get moola lol] from my console times
you outta check out the time i spent playing ff10 LOL [over 150 hrs and still no clear sphere ;p]
dont play psx much other than to stress my system to see if my overclocking is stable :P

a ti4600 costs about 400 dollars
ti4400 costs 250
ti4200 costs 200
radeon 8500 costs 150
as for the old school cards i seen them as low as 10 dollars :P

[F-3582]

I thought so, because you seemed to have all those neat super-weapons a bit early...

[fivefeet8]

Originally posted by F-3582
Master Yoshidino...
You didn't cheat, did you?!?

If your refering to the shots in the link he gave, then those were my shots... I didn't use cheats, but I downloaded a gamesave from gamefaqs (http://www.gamefaqs.com) that lets you start the game with all items..

[(F)ragnarok(F)]

i want to get another video card in the future (since as u can see mine's ancient). which one do u recommend? n y is ti4600's price nearly doubles ti4400's?

[Razor Blade]

Well if you want to save money go with mine GeForce 2 MX/400 64 MB but if you want top of the line go with the 128 mb one Thats what I recommend!

[(F)ragnarok(F)]

128 mb eh? that would be nice!

[DoubleD_99]

Your cpu is so slow you might just want to get a GeForce2 MX 400 32meg. I have a p3 667 and a GeForce 2 MX 400 32meg and I am thinking about upgrading my cpu over my gfx card, but at the same time that will never happen. I will just wait for the nv30 to come out and then I will buy a new comp:D