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June 24th, 2001, 13:03
i have a problem in installing win2k on my system i don't know it just hang when it will detect my keyboard and mouse, the one that will say installing and detecting such as keyboard mouse and youre screen may flicker blah blah blah thus my mother board have conflict w/ win2k (asus p2v-b) :(
June 24th, 2001, 13:13
first make two partitions on ur hard drive.
(i ll explain how i made it w/ my comp. I have win98 and 2k)
use fdisk for example
then with ur newly second partition, don t format it.
then boot from the cd of win2k
just choose the spqce on ur hard drive u haven t allocated to an
OS, then format with FAT 32 or NTFS (win2k supports both, win98 or ME supports only fat 32)(bTW could someone explin to me what s the technical difference between these two? thx)
that s it now.
if u have problem again w/ ur MOBO just put what s exactly written plz
June 24th, 2001, 14:06
>i don't know it just hang when it will detect my keyboard and
This sounds like an incompatibility between Win2k and some piece of hardware. Though it may not be an option for you, open up the case and either remove or disable any hardware that isn't necessary. Should this allow you to get Win2k installed, add each peripheral one by one, installing updated drivers as you go. Since I'm not familiar with your motherboard, I can't say for certain, but does it include any special drive controllers or the like (like a RAID array or somesuch)? If so, get the necessary drivers for it before doing an install of Win2k and copy them to a floppy. With the floppy in the drive, start the Win2k install and when it prompts you, press F6 and select the proper driver.
>bTW could someone explin to me what s the technical difference
>between these two? thx
If you're not concerned about maintaining compatibility between earlier versions of Windows and 2000, choose NTFS. NTFS is journaled to a certain degree, so losing power in the middle of writing a file doesn't tend to cause corruption plus you don't have to wait for Scandisk to run after a crash or power loss. In addition, NTFS supports sparse file support, so files that are large in size yet contain large areas of blank space (often the case with binary log files and database records) actually store only the used portions of the file, which saves on space. NTFS also allows for dynamic movement of your files and applications, so when you move an app to a different volume or area on disk Windows won't have to go out and search for it. Though provided by add in file system drivers, NTFS also supports OS level file encryption and compression. 2000's file system also allows for files that are larger than 4GB in size.
FAT32, on the other hand, has none of the above features, is limited to files of 4 gigs in size (under most circumstances), but is compatible with updated versions of Win95, Win98, Linux, and BeOS. Some will also claim that FAT32 is faster than NTFS and while that may be the case on some systems, on mine there's very little difference.
June 24th, 2001, 14:24
the reason why I asked it it s because I haven t noticed either a loss of speed.
so i m a bit more intelligent now. :D
June 24th, 2001, 17:46
i tried that before i remove all execpt my videocard but seems the result is the same btw what is RAID?
June 24th, 2001, 18:32
Redundant Array of (Independent/Inexpensive) Disks
>i tried that before i remove all execpt my videocard
Could you try doing a clean install of your earlier version of Windows then doing an install of Win2k directly afterwards? You might also want to do a search on DejaNews (http://www.deja.com) and seeing if anyone else has had the same problem.
June 24th, 2001, 22:35
ok i'll check that thanks
June 24th, 2001, 22:36
4GB max size on fat32? I thought the largest was 2GB. At least that's what I gathered from virtualDub's help file.
June 24th, 2001, 22:44
>4GB max size on fat32
It may be 2, I haven't used FAT32 in quite some time so I'd forgotten some of the details.
June 25th, 2001, 12:43
You can Install 98 S.E. on NTFS....
Good explanations cluthu....
One more thing, Please do not try to install 2000 then 98... Most systems wont do it... It will tell you that a newer OS is aready present and not allow you to install.. So install 98 then 2000... Just a quickbit... And you dont nessisarly have to use seprate partions, but its highly recomended....
June 25th, 2001, 12:44
Oh yes... in 98S.E. (fat 32) 4 GB is the largest file... Usually only Databases or Video files become this large... and unfortunatly i have both...
June 25th, 2001, 17:51
As said Rargh and Dan, The best, at begining, is to install, for compatibility and sharing reasons, Win98/Me on one HD partition and W2k on an other one and let's say 2GB for that one (Win2000 is able to read FAT32 partitions but the reverse is not true).
If you're using large files with more than 4Gb capacity on FAT32 you'll get opening errors. NTFS is able to manage very large file sizes of sevrals Terabytes.
For people like me doing bigs mpeg (OpenDML AVI files are limited at 4GB) videos files you have to go to NTFS.
June 26th, 2001, 01:44
I stand corrected then. I could have sworn....
June 26th, 2001, 06:12
(Win2000 is able to read FAT32 partitions but the reverse is not true).
FAT32 is not able to read Win2000??
Yes, 98SE with the NTSF patch can read NTSF just fine... To install 98SE (not first edition, or SE upgrage), there is a TSR that you can download off Microsoft that will allow the patch to be applied before 98SE is installed...
But, why would you want to install 98SE anyway? Or ME??
June 26th, 2001, 07:12
> But, why would you want to install 98SE anyway? Or ME??
I'd guess masochists would to get their thrills.
June 26th, 2001, 09:19
or your poor... or rich...
Can't afford anything better... Too much money to care...
June 26th, 2001, 09:30
> Too much money to care...
I definitely wish I had that problem. :)
June 26th, 2001, 11:08
Dan, Yes I know it, but you, have you already tested this patch? It's a bull****. it's so slow that you can't realy work with.
June 26th, 2001, 11:18
Actually, its not bull****...
And yes, i have tested it on over 100 workstations...
And no, it is not slow...
It works great!
June 26th, 2001, 12:59
I just read that FAT16 has a 2Gb file size limit, whereas FAT32 has a 4Gb file size limit.
June 26th, 2001, 15:21
how about the hard disk ........... about LARGE, LBA, NORMAL and AUTO now It is set to LBA if a change that invalid system disk will appeare whats your settings?
June 26th, 2001, 18:36
Mine's specified for LBA as per disk access mode, I let the BIOS autoselect the settings for each drive.
June 27th, 2001, 08:25
so its not the HDD settings after all :(
June 29th, 2001, 16:21
Originally posted by UncleClive
I just read that FAT16 has a 2Gb file size limit, whereas FAT32 has a 4Gb file size limit.
With Fat16 it is not a 2GB filesize limit, but a 2GB partition limit.
As to the max size of a Fat32 partition, i am unsure.. i have a 10GB Fat32 partition setup here and it works fine, i also might add that the filesize limit of 4GB isn't true, since i have a file here which is 4.1GB (a decss'd dvd film that i'm converting into a divx).
As to the other fella, when installing Win 2k its usually best to make sure you have the most upto date flashed motherboard BIOS and also have most of your hardware taken out if you are having installation problems (take out your soundcard, network card etc except for your gfx card :P) then once Windows 2000 has been installed you put in the hardware one by one.
As to installing Windows 98 and Windows 2000 side by side, i have a guide that i typed up on it for a few friends a while back, if you want i can dig it up and provide a link to it?
I have a setup of Debian Linux 2.2, Windows 98SE & Windows 2000 Pro installed here.
June 29th, 2001, 18:38
Some Win2k install problems can be solved by underclocking your processor, if at all possible. A friend's computer would simply refuse to get into setup unless the clock speed was reduced by 50Mhz. Before someone suggests it, the RAM of the machine is speced as being PC133 compat. and passed just about every stress test I could throw at it, so it wasn't the fault of the memory. :shrug:
June 29th, 2001, 20:53
you mean i need to remove its OC spec i have p3 450@ 504 so i need to get back at 450?
June 29th, 2001, 21:26
heh, its never intelligent to install an OS when your pc is oc'ed.
OC it after the OS has been installed.
June 29th, 2001, 21:52
Just as BOB said, disable any sort of overclocking you have enabled before installing. After performing the install you can OC all you'd like, but you're just asking for trouble if you install with an OCed proc.
June 30th, 2001, 00:38
Originally posted by BOB
As to the max size of a Fat32 partition, i am unsure..
I heard that FAT32's max partition size is 2Tb. However I heard wrong about the max filesize so maybe my hearings as bad as my eyesight:D
July 1st, 2001, 13:41
so i see maybe its the problem hope it will work
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