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beckham_m7u
April 16th, 2001, 15:20
hmm...I just got this software this week : It is called Nightmare, (still beta version, I think) and I just wanna know if somebody happen to have try this software, it is a dreamcast emulator.... All I wanna ask u guys if any games have fully working on this emulator since I don't have enough money to buy a doubtful playable CD.

To the MOD's of this board: Is it okay if I post this here? this is a software board, anyway coz I don't know where to put this question elsewhere...? :) :) :)

Bgnome
April 16th, 2001, 16:50
its ok to post this here.
actually, we would prefer that yall use the off-topic boards more often..
ive just been letting some of the threads stay in gen disc just because i wanted too see if people want to use the off-topic boards or not

Pete Bernert
April 16th, 2001, 19:23
mmm... just wondering... if you could run bleemcast with a dreamcast
emulator, in which forum you would have to post? ;)

Bgnome
April 16th, 2001, 19:29
very good quesiton ;)
probably misc psx emu but like i stated before, i havent been all that strict on where threads go :wink: yet.. :wink:

sxamiga
April 17th, 2001, 00:27
Beckham_m7u, if you want to know about another working DC emulator, besides the one of which Disturbed spoke, go on over to www.vg-network.com Dave, who runs the site, has posted news of another working DC emulator. You can download it from there also. Plus he also has a link to the home page. So, if you're interested in DC emulation, I suggest you go on over there and check it out. Hope this is of interest to you.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

beckham_m7u
April 17th, 2001, 14:32
1. I've checked the website you gave me, sxamiga...and thanks, maybe one of these emulators will work... have you tried these dc emu?? if you have, please, i wanna know these emulators progress about running commercial games on your computer...anyway, where have you guys been? (LordJames, you >>> sxamiga, Wormie, and the other mods that always appear in the former emuforums.com??)

2. NEW: I recently read on one of the games bulletin, that is GRANDIA II is being port to PC…anybody can confirm this news as “this project is being done or this project is cancelled” ???

thanks

Bgnome
April 17th, 2001, 16:31
Originally posted by beckham_m7u
anyway, where have you guys been? (LordJames, you >>> sxamiga, Wormie, and the other mods that always appear in the former emuforums.com??)


as disturbed said, lordjames is no longer a member of psxemu. neither is wormie anymore, but he still is around. he is currently working on a new project that may be up and running soon, that i and a few other familiar names will be a part of.

sunstorm
April 17th, 2001, 18:19
okay i have a link here which i visit often to get my fix of dreamcast stuff. if you happen to be a dreamcast owner or simply just interested in dreamcast dev, you should look in on the site.

recently just got their act back together, the site just got better.

www.dcemulation.com


just my 2 cents.

mr2000jp
April 18th, 2001, 04:11
i was one of those who got fooled by gregs nightmare (DC emu).
but i knew that it was fake and also a well done trick to get money by fooling people .
this fake emulator was released after few months of releasing the real DC .
i brought it and tried it too , it asks for a cd ripper so you can run the game from an image on the hard disk with the extention of gre (*.gre) .
i went to the web page that was written to visit to get the ripper .
do you know wat i saw there ; that bastard who made this fake emu says that you can get the ripper by sending 15 $ in an envelop and all the info about where you want the ripper to be sent and also he wrote that this the only way of payment so dont try using the visa cards or bank checks if you want to get the ripper for shure.
see its not just a fake many of my freinds told me that this wasnt just a fake, its a virus .
:mad:
so ,careful my freind .
:eek:
and one more thing , there isnt any emulator that can run any commercial games for the DC , i was mad about the DC games (dead or alive 2 , sonic adventure , grandia 2, soulcalibur ......) so i tried every possible way to run the DC games emulators and even my washing machine (he he ...)
but no way so after a long time i got the real thing , a dreamcast ; which is the only real way to run the DC games for now and for two next years at least .
i said too much; i think ....
bye

beckham_m7u
April 18th, 2001, 11:47
wwoww... what a news...hehe...thanks to all member for clearing this DC emulation problems and:

1. Thanks to Disturbed for the Grandia II news. hmmm...I wonder why haven't it sold yet(Grandia II) late february 2001? it is april now...??????
My regards to LordJames....:)
2. BGnome, I only can wish you guys a good luck on your project...
3. Mr2000jp, many thanks for your warning... hmm...maybe some guys like that should be put in jail ?? hehe :) anyway, i've tried those dc emu that i've downloaded yesterday ... and ... BINGO....none of them is working...think you're right...even the PSX needs about 3 years to get them work perfectly on emulators....make sense huh? anyway, again, thanks for the warning...

campaign2016
April 18th, 2001, 16:41
Isnt there a problem with the type of media that the dreamcast games are on?

I thought that they are GD roms and that normal CD drives cant read them.

I could be wrong and probably am

beckham_m7u
April 18th, 2001, 18:50
hmmm...campaign2016, maybe that's right coz when I try to run the games, my CD- ROM drives didn't react at all... the lights didn't on... well, that explain why it doesn't work at all...anyway, your Vivi is cute, do you mind teaching how to do that? how to add pict? ???? and where'd you get it?

campaign2016
April 18th, 2001, 22:43
theres an option in profile -> edit options and then way down at the bottom, theres a change avatar

beckham_m7u
April 19th, 2001, 07:05
ha... thanks campaign...anyway, anybody know what language will be used in GRANDIA II PC? coz, I've looked elsewhere about the information, screenshots but couldn't find any information about the language...

beckham_m7u
April 19th, 2001, 07:09
Ow yeah...and I almost forgot this one... My friend last night called me and he said that Soul Calibur (DC) is RUNNING on DC emulators but I thought he is using Nightmare coz, he is the one who gave me Nightmare but as far as I know, Nightmare is lacking one of its' files right? Can someone explain this? or I've just tricked?? ????? :)

ice2hot
April 19th, 2001, 15:59
Originally posted by campaign2016
Isnt there a problem with the type of media that the dreamcast games are on?

I thought that they are GD roms and that normal CD drives cant read them.

I could be wrong and probably am

what about a card for the dreamcast which was being developed by sega for the pc ....any news on that :confused:

campaign2016
April 19th, 2001, 16:17
Originally posted by beckham_m7u
ha... thanks campaign...anyway, anybody know what language will be used in GRANDIA II PC? coz, I've looked elsewhere about the information, screenshots but couldn't find any information about the language...

isnt it being released first in korea?
i would assume that it would be korean or some other form of asian language

Xenomorph
April 20th, 2001, 09:06
How much is the requirements to Dreamcast emulator?

beckham_m7u
April 20th, 2001, 12:45
mmm...Xenomorph, you really can't depend on these emulators to run a commercial games coz I and my friend have bought several (well, what i mean several here is a lot of :) ) DC games and none of them are working at all! ... Well, maybe this is a misconfiguration on me or somewhat but I thought that other member of this board would have "forced" to agree that NOW, there are none DC emulator is working on commercial games...Anyway, the minimum requirement (if I'm not mistaken) : P-300 Ram (not specified) and of course, 3D acceleration video card... Any other opinion?:emb:

Ow yeah, I have a question regarding the "SMILIES" when I try to add that smilies, it is written as ": emb :" (without the space) what I want to ask is, can I add this personally, I mean, when I type : emb : (without the space) will it convert to smilies???? sorry if you guys confused, coz i'm not very good at explaining things... well, this is just a small question, don't bother if it isn't answered :) :)

campaign2016
April 20th, 2001, 15:13
Originally posted by beckham_m7u

Ow yeah, I have a question regarding the "SMILIES" when I try to add that smilies, it is written as ": emb :" (without the space) what I want to ask is, can I add this personally, I mean, when I type : emb : (without the space) will it convert to smilies???? sorry if you guys confused, coz i'm not very good at explaining things... well, this is just a small question, don't bother if it isn't answered :) :)

the best way to see if that works is to test it out

:emb:
:emb:
:emb:

campaign2016
April 20th, 2001, 15:16
yupppers looks like it works :D

CDBuRnOuT
April 20th, 2001, 17:43
The only emulation project which runs a commercial game is Dreamer, coded by ElSemi.
The version that runs this game is unreleased, of course, for the sole fact that the author feels
the DC isn't ready to be emulated this soon, and I concur.

But at least ElSemi is still working on it, and his other project, Nebula, a CPS-2 Emulator.

sxamiga
April 21st, 2001, 06:32
Beckham_m7u, I am around all over the place. I am quite active and checking the various forums daily. Lord James quit of his own free will and now it seems that it was for the best that he did. More than that will not be said, so please don't ask. This new project I know nothing about. I would assume that if some of the Admins are going to be helping out there, they also will still be here. If I am asked to help out w/it, I will, but I will also plan to be here as well. So, most of us are still around and we are always ready and willing to help.:D
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Keith
April 21st, 2001, 07:37
yeah Emu Fanatics has nothing to do with PSXEmu .. just a bunch of my friends ... which some happen to be ex-members and current members of PSXEmu. Well I don't want to give to much away .. so you guys will just have to wait. :D

Also I don't come around as much as I used too ... just been busy lately :p

Wormie | Emu Fanatics (http://www.emufanatics.com)

beckham_m7u
April 21st, 2001, 08:39
haha....that's quite impressive, sxamiga... well, I'm not gonna force people to tell what they're doing :p just take it easy...:) :) and for guys that are working on some projects, wish you a very good luck...

And CDBurnOut, so, Dreamer is the only DC emulator that runs commercial games huh? Maybe on their newest version (I hope) and what's that NEBULA ? Did u mean PS-2 Emulator? hmmm...that's interesting considering the awsome graphic that PS2 has.... Maybe it will need GeForce 3 ??? hohoho... As I read just now, GeForce 3 hasn't been released yet...

mm...Just Wondering, is AdriPSX and ePSXe have a compatibility different??? Is it possible if some games that didn't work on ePSXe will turn great on AdriPSX? (Well, I never tried it because I think when they're using "plugins" system, they're sharing the compatibility as well...Am I wrong?) Besides, which system do you prefer? the fixed (like Bleem! or VGS) or the plugin one(like the famous ePSXe or AdriPSX)?

Ow, and that PCSX seems great to me... Keep yer good work, guys... :cool: :)

sxamiga
April 22nd, 2001, 00:53
Beckham_m7u, just because ePSXe and Adripsx share the same plugin system doesn't necessarily mean that their compatability will be the same. You see, the main emulator cores (the emulator minus the plugins) are not the same and the emulator itself is what mainly decides the compatability aided, in part, by the plugins. So there is a reasonable chance that Adripsx may, read "May" play some games that ePSXe does not. I am currently checking this and later I will let everyone know what I have discovered.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

beckham_m7u
April 22nd, 2001, 05:50
haha....thanks for your explanations, sxamiga and Disturbed...

my memory card on AdriPSX won't read or function as well as ePSXe...can anyone describe this? Well, I haven't tried the newest version of Adri yet...But on PSXEmu website, it was said that the newest version features not including the fixing of memory cards...kinda confused...:)

beckham_m7u
April 22nd, 2001, 06:04
hmmm..this is about GAME TRANSLATIONS (well, I didn't put this on new topic coz I think it will waste some spaces)

1. Who (or What company) is usually translates the Japan games to a US one?
2. Why didn't they translate some very great RPG games that comes out lately like Tales of Phantasia, Spectral Blade, Khamrai, Tales of Eternia, Eithea, etc etc...

thanks

LanGaidin
April 22nd, 2001, 08:49
hmmm..this is about GAME TRANSLATIONS (well, I didn't put this on new topic coz I think it will waste some spaces)

Just an FYI, that it usually is better to create a new topic for something like this... For the most part, it doesn't really matter, but more people are likely to see it, if it is in it's own topic with a subject that is relevant. Also, it makes it easier to find later. I really doubt that there are space issues here, and even so, creating a new message doesn't use much more space than replying to an already existing one. ;)

1. Who (or What company) is usually translates the Japan games to a US one?


I'm pretty sure that it's the developers of the game. I.E., Squaresoft has a translator to translate their own games to English...

2. Why didn't they translate some very great RPG games that comes out lately like Tales of Phantasia, Spectral Blade, Khamrai, Tales of Eternia, Eithea, etc etc...

Usually it's because they don't think that the game will do well in the US. It's very expensive to translate games, especially games that are text/speech oriented, such as RPGs, and the companies want to be 100% sure that the cost will be justified, before doing it. There are more than 3 times as many PSX games in Japan as their are in the US. For most of them, they really wouldn't sell well in the US (Some of what they consider fun games are incredibly odd). However, there is occasionally the really great game that doesn't get sold outside Japan. Basically, it's beaurocratic red tape. :/ You can try sending letters/E-mails to the developers, or even better yet organize a petition. If you can prove to them that they'll make money off the translations, they will do it. Even if the games are years old, a la CT and FF IV...

CDBuRnOuT said:

The only emulation project which runs a commercial game is Dreamer, coded by ElSemi.
The version that runs this game is unreleased, of course, for the sole fact that the author feels
the DC isn't ready to be emulated this soon, and I concur.


You know, when I first read that he felt that way, I thought it was really cool of him. But, the more I think about it, I don't quite understand it. I mean, to me, the point of emulation was 3-fold:


Increase the # of people that can play the games, by increasing the # of playable platforms
The "Is it possible" factor... Just seeing the "impossible" being done
Keeping old games alive.


Obviously the last doesn't apply to the DC, however none of these are inherently bad. They probably help the developers and consumers, and don't hurt the console makers. There are 2 main by-products of emulation that are not good:


Fewer people buying the consoles
Increase in game piracy


The first is debatable, as I don't believe that many people who use emus but don't own the console would have bought the console anyway. However, it is possible it's true, so I'll consider it a valid point... However, for the DC, considering that the consoles are no longer being produced, they would have no trouble selling the remaining stock, even if an emu that played 90% of the games perfectly came out today.

The second point a lot of people will probably argue. However, the fact is that no matter how easy it is to play pirated (or "backup" for those that can't face reality) games on the PSX, it is even easier to do so on the PC with an emu. It's also possible to play pirated games without buying anything (Few software pirates would be willing to steal a console, however a free emu, or pirating a commercial one gets around that). I'm sure the same will be true of the DC. And, while this would be a valid point on why to not release an emu (Not one I agree with, but I could at least understand), in this case, when IS a good time to release one? The only time I could see would be after the games for the console are no longer being actively sold (Usually about a year after the console is no longer being manufactured). If that is the argument, then it is too early for PSX, N64, and even Gameboy emulators, still... And, I have never heard anyone making those arguments about these systems.

Is there some other downside of emulation that goes away/is diminished after the console has been on the market for more than a couple years? Please explain to me what I'm missing here...

CDBuRnOuT
April 22nd, 2001, 20:37
It's kind of a Catch 22....

People feel things like the DC are too new to be emu'd, but something like the GB, which is quite old can, even though it's still being sold...

It really varies from scene to scene....take Arcade for example...
MAME doesn't enable games it can emulate until at least a year after the 1st bootup date on the ROM...
The Impact team is also following this logic with Zinc.

Bleh, I'm kind of not really explaining anything :/ Hrm...let's take a look at a more recent example, the GBA
Their was a GBA emu (albeit unreleased at the time), running a commercial ROM within 24 hours of the handheld's release.
The version of the emu with the ability to run the game, was released the next day.

Ask most 'older' emulation fans, and they think of GBA emulation at this point as one of the biggest disasters in Emulation history...

Anyway...the general concensus(sp?) is that as a console/handheld/arcade/etc gets older, it's more and more acceptable to emulate it,
regardless of it still selling or not, because by that time, the platform in question has already been selling for a while, and can stand
the 'competition' an emu can bring in some cases...

Argh, this is really unorganized, but I hope it make sense, please forgive me =P

tidus
April 24th, 2001, 08:00
Tales of Phantasia was probably not translated because it was a SNES game in the first place, it just got ported over to the PSX. Also with Tales of Phantasia (as good of a game it is) it would probably be expensive to have the voice acting in English, plus it's a 2D game. Compared to FF9, it wouldn't sell at all since there are very few anime fans (like me) in the rest of the world.

campaign2016
April 24th, 2001, 08:12
i dont know

look at lunar 2

alot of people have that game and its a 2d game

although it is alot more expensive to translate an rpg than a fighting game. if there is voice acting in a fighting game it usually sounds better in the original japanese any way since the english translations are never good

beckham_m7u
April 24th, 2001, 10:56
hmmm...maybe you guys are right but surely the translation will make some US gamers HAPPY...!!! then I guess we should wait which developers will translate those great games, huh? hmm...Waiting is the most boring job in the world... :) :) :) :D :D :D

campaign2016
April 24th, 2001, 14:50
unless it pays good :D

Ryos
May 5th, 2001, 12:46
I've already said this before, but I'll say it again. Namco is the company that did the marvelous Tales of...series, including Tales of Destiny (the only game of the series to make it to the United States). Because it did so poorly, and because Tekken and other brainless games do so well, Namco has no incentive to translate any other Tales of... games, including Tales of Phantasia, possibly the best game ever made (and that's the SNES version:P). Unless someone else buys the rights, we will never see an official version of any other Tales of... games.

cluthu
May 5th, 2001, 13:09
>Tales of Phantasia...
Though I'm unsure about the PSX version, if you'd like to play ToP translated into English you might want to check out DeJap Translations @ http://dejap.zsnes.com . You'll need an emulator (ZSnes is my personal fave. Their homepage @ http://www.zsnes.com ) and the ROM (which, of course, I can't say any more about).

There's no voice acting as in the PSX ToP, but the patch that Dejap has is simply astounding (IMHO), given that they had to replace all the original text and had no access to the original game's source code.

I haven't any idea if this is useful to you, but I just thought I'd mention it.

beckham_m7u
May 5th, 2001, 13:31
ha...thanks guys...

and cluthu,.... i've already got the translations files but since i can't use it, i dumped it... hehe :D

and hope those games will be translated (Khamrai seems great :) )